@communist That’s only a 15 watt soundbar, so at best it might be ~50% louder than the speaker for sale here today. I’d be pretty surprised if there was any really noticeable difference in apparent maximum volume between the two, especially since you can pretty much always have the bluetooth speaker right next to your head if it isn’t loud enough.
That said, anyone contemplating purchasing this speaker is likely looking for something portable, and once you add in the cost (and weight) of a car battery and inverter to power the soundbar, it’s not a particularly favorable comparison.
@Aspirant_Fool@communist Yea, lugging around a Soundbar might not appeal to everyone! Some-one mentioned a car battery & an inverter, but is all that shit even necessary when it’s a Bluetooth compatable item, or am I missing something?
@gominosensei@triplebud Yes, it’s essentially a BoC. Just to recap for those that aren’t familiar with it, it started here as the Fukubukuro or ‘lucky bag’ and evolved into the Fukobukuro or ‘unlucky bag.’ It is now known as the IRK or ‘Instant Regret Kit.’ There was a naming contest a while back: https://meh.com/forum/topics/rename-the-fuko with the winners listed in the write-up here:
The box specifically mentions two speaker drivers, but nowhere does it actually use the word ‘stereo’. Two drivers without stereo sound, and the added gimmick of having to purchase TWO units just to get actual stereo sound, would be terrible. Can anyone confirm?
Yes, sorry, I was unclear… I meant being able to buy two units and set them 8 or 10 feet apart, rather than 8 or 10 inches from the small drivers in the same box.
Doing it from two separate boxes is much harder technically because both can’t just “pair” with the sender and one plays left and one plays right. They would not be in sync because Bluetooth packets are queued and buffered. The Philips documentation mentions that in paired mode the Left is the master and then it syncs the data stream with the 2nd (Right) detached unit. Things like the Sonos system also do this but those are like $400 units.
Actually from the specs it’s unclear on if the single unit does or does not split audio L/R if only 1 box is used. The Philips specs do mention two separate amps, implying that it has the circuitry to drive independent signals to its 2 speakers. Whether it does this or not, we don’t know. Maybe they just didn’t want to call it “stereo” given the small size and spacing of two speakers in the 1 box.
I would say the way to test is to find an “test file” wav, flac or mp3 that has separate left/right tests and see what comes out. Possibly there’s also an app that does this. This should allow testing of both the single-unit and two-paired configuration. I will try this when I get my units but given Meh shipping that could be later this week, or early Fall sometime…
@pmarin Stereo audio is an industry standard, so even if two drivers are only an inch apart, if they are reproducing separate left & right channels from the same source, it’s stereo sound. I have also seen some cheaper speakers claim they are ‘stereo’ when actually producing a mono signal, including single speaker units with a passive radiator as the second ‘driver’. These are not stereo speakers. The term is set in stone, but unfortunately manufacturers’ interpretations of it is not.
@PooltoyWolf Yes, it’s odd that they don’t explicitly say it does and don’t explicitly say it doesn’t. I still think it might, but they also may think that calling it a “stereo” audio experience requires more than two 1” speakers 8” apart. And I‘d agree with them if that’s their interpretation, even if a single unit does split the L/R. (And at this point I think none of us on this forum know for sure if it does)
My original point was that the technical challenge of two Bluetooth units —not wired together —providing “stereo” is difficult and supported by very few systems I know of. So I admired Philips for adding this capability when most others don’t.
@pmarin There are many speakers available that feature the two-unit paired stereo option; I’ve seen it offered for a few years now. I personally think it’s more of a ‘use it if you happen to have two of them’ feature, rather than a selling point, as it doubles the price with no other objective benefit.
We need a Mehmber who bought this speaker to report back on whether the single speaker produces stereo sound!
EDIT: If a given stereo speaker features a digital/electronic ‘stereo wide’ function, the close spacing of the two drivers becomes less of a hurdle, because the soundstage can be expanded electronically. This is a very common (and effective!) method for making smaller speakers sound larger and wider.