@communist Thatâs only a 15 watt soundbar, so at best it might be ~50% louder than the speaker for sale here today. Iâd be pretty surprised if there was any really noticeable difference in apparent maximum volume between the two, especially since you can pretty much always have the bluetooth speaker right next to your head if it isnât loud enough.
That said, anyone contemplating purchasing this speaker is likely looking for something portable, and once you add in the cost (and weight) of a car battery and inverter to power the soundbar, itâs not a particularly favorable comparison.
@Aspirant_Fool@communist Yea, lugging around a Soundbar might not appeal to everyone! Some-one mentioned a car battery & an inverter, but is all that shit even necessary when itâs a Bluetooth compatable item, or am I missing something?
@gominosensei@triplebud Yes, itâs essentially a BoC. Just to recap for those that arenât familiar with it, it started here as the Fukubukuro or âlucky bagâ and evolved into the Fukobukuro or âunlucky bag.â It is now known as the IRK or âInstant Regret Kit.â There was a naming contest a while back: https://meh.com/forum/topics/rename-the-fuko with the winners listed in the write-up here:
I have so many BT speakers from this site already but Iâm always looking for ones with half decent sound. This one might go in my car for podcasts since my car is an old junker.
The âjoke for nerdsâ in the model number doesnât compute for me. You said dash when you should have said slash? But is that the joke? If not⊠I still donât get it. Could you explain it for me?
I donât care about the audio volumeâit doesnât have to be any louder than a phone speaker at highâbut I do care about audio quality. Are there any attestations as to the latter?
The box specifically mentions two speaker drivers, but nowhere does it actually use the word âstereoâ. Two drivers without stereo sound, and the added gimmick of having to purchase TWO units just to get actual stereo sound, would be terrible. Can anyone confirm?
@nolrak Letâs see.
/8ball if I plug yesterdayâs Bluetooth dinkies into todayâs Bluetooth speaker, does the universe consume itself?
Better not tell you now
Too late- after trying two other bluetooth speakers of this type/style, we found one that works perfectly, and sounds great- for about â this price. I believe its brand is VTINâŠ
Oh no not more BT Speakers! But, very few do true Stereo support like these apparently do. Of course you have to buy 2. Not 3. Not 1. And canât buy 4. So, two is the number.
@pmarin There are a huge number of smaller Bluetooth speakers that do true stereo just fine with two speaker drivers within the same enclosure. This one is apparently not one of them.
Yes, sorry, I was unclear⊠I meant being able to buy two units and set them 8 or 10 feet apart, rather than 8 or 10 inches from the small drivers in the same box.
Doing it from two separate boxes is much harder technically because both canât just âpairâ with the sender and one plays left and one plays right. They would not be in sync because Bluetooth packets are queued and buffered. The Philips documentation mentions that in paired mode the Left is the master and then it syncs the data stream with the 2nd (Right) detached unit. Things like the Sonos system also do this but those are like $400 units.
Actually from the specs itâs unclear on if the single unit does or does not split audio L/R if only 1 box is used. The Philips specs do mention two separate amps, implying that it has the circuitry to drive independent signals to its 2 speakers. Whether it does this or not, we donât know. Maybe they just didnât want to call it âstereoâ given the small size and spacing of two speakers in the 1 box.
I would say the way to test is to find an âtest fileâ wav, flac or mp3 that has separate left/right tests and see what comes out. Possibly thereâs also an app that does this. This should allow testing of both the single-unit and two-paired configuration. I will try this when I get my units but given Meh shipping that could be later this week, or early Fall sometimeâŠ
@pmarin Stereo audio is an industry standard, so even if two drivers are only an inch apart, if they are reproducing separate left & right channels from the same source, itâs stereo sound. I have also seen some cheaper speakers claim they are âstereoâ when actually producing a mono signal, including single speaker units with a passive radiator as the second âdriverâ. These are not stereo speakers. The term is set in stone, but unfortunately manufacturersâ interpretations of it is not.
@PooltoyWolf Yes, itâs odd that they donât explicitly say it does and donât explicitly say it doesnât. I still think it might, but they also may think that calling it a âstereoâ audio experience requires more than two 1â speakers 8â apart. And Iâd agree with them if thatâs their interpretation, even if a single unit does split the L/R. (And at this point I think none of us on this forum know for sure if it does)
My original point was that the technical challenge of two Bluetooth units ânot wired together âproviding âstereoâ is difficult and supported by very few systems I know of. So I admired Philips for adding this capability when most others donât.
@pmarin There are many speakers available that feature the two-unit paired stereo option; Iâve seen it offered for a few years now. I personally think itâs more of a âuse it if you happen to have two of themâ feature, rather than a selling point, as it doubles the price with no other objective benefit.
We need a Mehmber who bought this speaker to report back on whether the single speaker produces stereo sound!
EDIT: If a given stereo speaker features a digital/electronic âstereo wideâ function, the close spacing of the two drivers becomes less of a hurdle, because the soundstage can be expanded electronically. This is a very common (and effective!) method for making smaller speakers sound larger and wider.
Shoqbox - The latest invention in chastity.
yikes only 8 watts of sound output
for those who want more sound/more features for the same $30
i bought this https://www.ebay.com/sch/293/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=blackweb+google&_sop=15
a couple months ago and it works great
google assistant and Bluetooth both work and its loud enough to annoy my neighbors if necessary
@communist Or buy one of these things that I just got in my IRK and force your neighbors to move. To another state.
@cinoclav holy hell! Iâve been staying away from irk reveals to keep myself spoiler free. That thing looks insane!
How long do the batteries last (lol)?
@cinoclav daym nice i got a tiny blue tooth speaker in mine. For 5$ i canât hate it
@communist Thatâs only a 15 watt soundbar, so at best it might be ~50% louder than the speaker for sale here today. Iâd be pretty surprised if there was any really noticeable difference in apparent maximum volume between the two, especially since you can pretty much always have the bluetooth speaker right next to your head if it isnât loud enough.
That said, anyone contemplating purchasing this speaker is likely looking for something portable, and once you add in the cost (and weight) of a car battery and inverter to power the soundbar, itâs not a particularly favorable comparison.
@cinoclav @communist
My IRK contained a pair of Bose headphones where one ear phone was snapped off. Iâm feeling envy now.
@djslack Four AAâs. They last for 7 seconds. Sorry for any spoilers!
@cinoclav @communist I am beyond jealous you got one of those for $5.
@Aspirant_Fool @communist Yea, lugging around a Soundbar might not appeal to everyone! Some-one mentioned a car battery & an inverter, but is all that shit even necessary when itâs a Bluetooth compatable item, or am I missing something?
@cinoclav @communist @jayman007 whats IRK?
Instant regret kit @triplebud
@gominosensei is that the new BOC or something? Ive been away way too long!
@gominosensei @triplebud Yes, itâs essentially a BoC. Just to recap for those that arenât familiar with it, it started here as the Fukubukuro or âlucky bagâ and evolved into the Fukobukuro or âunlucky bag.â It is now known as the IRK or âInstant Regret Kit.â There was a naming contest a while back: https://meh.com/forum/topics/rename-the-fuko with the winners listed in the write-up here:
@cinoclav @gominosensei thanks so much for explaining!
@gominosensei @triplebud Quite welcome. While youâre at it, feel free to get involved and vote in my ongoing Field of 32! No need to worry about the past contests. Todayâs is here: https://meh.com/forum/topics/cinoclavs-field-of-32-day-22
You can read about it here: https://meh.com/forum/topics/who-ya-gonna-blame--goatbusters-your-official-cinoclav-blame-thread-
I miss Speaker Dock Friday.
Manual: https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/SB7100_37/wireless-portable-speaker/support
Look plausible, but I have too many BT speakers already.
Two one-man drivers each drive by two watts peak power. Thatâs some high quality sound right there.
I have so many BT speakers from this site already but Iâm always looking for ones with half decent sound. This one might go in my car for podcasts since my car is an old junker.
@daronspence Iâm still waiting for another $60 Monster Blaster. Thing is a goddamn beast.
@r0xor Me too! I was so jealous when a friend bought one and I saw how big it was. Had I known it was the size of a toddler I would have bought one.
Shag box?
Is that an British thing?
@Hanky
/giphy Austin Powers yeah baby
Two speakers in each for stereo, and two give stereo from different angles. Simulated stereo, just like Meh.
The âjoke for nerdsâ in the model number doesnât compute for me. You said dash when you should have said slash? But is that the joke? If not⊠I still donât get it. Could you explain it for me?
Shock Box? Can it electrocute you?
I donât care about the audio volumeâit doesnât have to be any louder than a phone speaker at highâbut I do care about audio quality. Are there any attestations as to the latter?
The box specifically mentions two speaker drivers, but nowhere does it actually use the word âstereoâ. Two drivers without stereo sound, and the added gimmick of having to purchase TWO units just to get actual stereo sound, would be terrible. Can anyone confirm?
@PooltoyWolf I guess if you buy just one, you get mono. People should be warned.
@mehcuda67 Yeah, thatâs what it seems like.
So if I plug yesterdayâs Bluetooth dinkies into todayâs Bluetooth speaker, does the universe consume itself?
@nolrak Letâs see.
/8ball if I plug yesterdayâs Bluetooth dinkies into todayâs Bluetooth speaker, does the universe consume itself?
Better not tell you now
Too late- after trying two other bluetooth speakers of this type/style, we found one that works perfectly, and sounds great- for about â this price. I believe its brand is VTINâŠ
Specs
Whatâs in the Box?
Price Comparison
$67.90 at Amazon
Warranty
1 Year Manufacturer
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Friday, July 17th
/buy
@PHRoG It worked! Your order number is: buoyant-credible-actor
/image buoyant credible actor
/giphy buoyant credible actor
@PHRoG had to find the sauce for that James Lipton gif, so here it is for the world:
/buy
@piiink1 Sorry, the
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command is only available to members. Learn more.Is it just me, or is that last photo just WRONG?
@mehcuda67
not a fan of EST, eh? I suspect that Irk was included in the first iteration and was removed in the name of taste.
Nope, donât get it. Does that mean that Iâm a real boy!?
Oh no not more BT Speakers! But, very few do true Stereo support like these apparently do. Of course you have to buy 2. Not 3. Not 1. And canât buy 4. So, two is the number.
/giphy enticing-revered-sky
@pmarin There are a huge number of smaller Bluetooth speakers that do true stereo just fine with two speaker drivers within the same enclosure. This one is apparently not one of them.
@PooltoyWolf a misunderstanding; meant to reply but accidentally did a new comment so see next post.
Yes, sorry, I was unclear⊠I meant being able to buy two units and set them 8 or 10 feet apart, rather than 8 or 10 inches from the small drivers in the same box.
Doing it from two separate boxes is much harder technically because both canât just âpairâ with the sender and one plays left and one plays right. They would not be in sync because Bluetooth packets are queued and buffered. The Philips documentation mentions that in paired mode the Left is the master and then it syncs the data stream with the 2nd (Right) detached unit. Things like the Sonos system also do this but those are like $400 units.
Actually from the specs itâs unclear on if the single unit does or does not split audio L/R if only 1 box is used. The Philips specs do mention two separate amps, implying that it has the circuitry to drive independent signals to its 2 speakers. Whether it does this or not, we donât know. Maybe they just didnât want to call it âstereoâ given the small size and spacing of two speakers in the 1 box.
I would say the way to test is to find an âtest fileâ wav, flac or mp3 that has separate left/right tests and see what comes out. Possibly thereâs also an app that does this. This should allow testing of both the single-unit and two-paired configuration. I will try this when I get my units but given Meh shipping that could be later this week, or early Fall sometimeâŠ
@pmarin Stereo audio is an industry standard, so even if two drivers are only an inch apart, if they are reproducing separate left & right channels from the same source, itâs stereo sound. I have also seen some cheaper speakers claim they are âstereoâ when actually producing a mono signal, including single speaker units with a passive radiator as the second âdriverâ. These are not stereo speakers. The term is set in stone, but unfortunately manufacturersâ interpretations of it is not.
@PooltoyWolf Yes, itâs odd that they donât explicitly say it does and donât explicitly say it doesnât. I still think it might, but they also may think that calling it a âstereoâ audio experience requires more than two 1â speakers 8â apart. And Iâd agree with them if thatâs their interpretation, even if a single unit does split the L/R. (And at this point I think none of us on this forum know for sure if it does)
My original point was that the technical challenge of two Bluetooth units ânot wired together âproviding âstereoâ is difficult and supported by very few systems I know of. So I admired Philips for adding this capability when most others donât.
@pmarin There are many speakers available that feature the two-unit paired stereo option; Iâve seen it offered for a few years now. I personally think itâs more of a âuse it if you happen to have two of themâ feature, rather than a selling point, as it doubles the price with no other objective benefit.
We need a Mehmber who bought this speaker to report back on whether the single speaker produces stereo sound!
EDIT: If a given stereo speaker features a digital/electronic âstereo wideâ function, the close spacing of the two drivers becomes less of a hurdle, because the soundstage can be expanded electronically. This is a very common (and effective!) method for making smaller speakers sound larger and wider.
A 2013 bluetooth speaker in 2019? lol