@jester747 you raise a valid point, maybe I should say I sleep like a rock! Solid, uninterrupted sleep. It is amazing and a welcome change from some recent issues I had with sleep
@JnKL@mike808@PocketBrain@Pony@therealjrn So I have a question about the so clean. Is it just the purchase of the unit or are there mountjoy maintenance accessory purchases required?
@JnKL@mike808@PocketBrain@Pony@therealjrn Sleeping better, yes. Sleeping well, still no.
Before being diagnosed with severe sleep apnea and getting on a CPAP machine, I could barely function and would feel like I had a major hangover most days, without even having enjoyed being drunk the night before.
(A friend said, “might as well start drinking, then”. Hard to argue with that logic. )
With CPAP, I am definitely far more functional, but the mask itself frequently disrupts my sleep and I’m still constantly tired during the day.
It’s a love/hate relationship. Very grateful I’m not a zombie anymore, but I really hate wearing the thing.
I’ve never been an ‘easy’ sleeper and, as a strictly side-sleeper, I’ve never found a mask that didn’t wake me up almost every time I roll over, and I’ve tried plenty.
The most comfortable one I ever tried was called Sleepweaver, made by Circadiance. It’s made of fabric rather than silicone and basically inflates like a balloon to create a seal. Very lightweight and comfy. Unfortunately, the slightest movement would break the seal, so as comfortable as it was, it just didn’t work.
Currently using the Philips Dreamwear nasal mask, which works really well and has an arrangement where the hose connects at the top of your head, which is much less obtrusive, but the mask still mashes against my nose while I sleep on my side and too often gets pushed out of position when I roll over. It does maintain a seal better than anything else I’ve tried though.
Those nasal “pillow” masks are a special form of torture and one of the most deceptively named products ever. These are the ones with the prongs that go up your nose. It’s like the marketing folks tried it and said, “my God, this is the most horribly uncomfortable thing ever. Let’s call it a ‘pillow’.” Would be more aptly called nasal destroyer or some-such.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve actually never been to a sleep doc. When I first went to my primary doc to address the issue, the sleep specialist he referred me to had like a 4 month wait for an appointment. I told my doc I’d never make it that long, so I skipped the specialist and went straight to the overnight clinic and came out w/ diagnosis and prescription.
I don’t believe I was properly titrated and, since I wake up tired even when I’m not aware of the mask disturbing my sleep, I don’t think I’m getting the proper therapy. My bro has a sleep doc he likes, and I’ll make an appointment with him ‘soon’ - been saying that for at least a year now, gotta get on it.
I don’t know what that is. I just made a cash purchase from the same place I got my CPAP machine. I wanted to pick it up that day, although AMZN carries them at the same price.
@JnKL@mike808@PocketBrain@Pony@therealjrn bah, damn phone is auto correcting me again! I was wondering if there was any MONTHLY MAINTENANCE accessories required to operate the unit.
@JnKL@mike808@PocketBrain@Pony@tinamarie1974 The SoClean 2 has a consumable Cartridge Filter and a Check Valve. I have yet to replace them though but I bought a generic two-pack of each to have on hand for about $18 total on AMZN.
@JnKL@mike808@PocketBrain@therealjrn@tinamarie1974 I didn’t even know maintenance machines were a thing. I’m very fortunate in that my CPAP stuff is covered by my insurance, and the mask, hose and reservoir will be replaced by them every few months. I do clean them, of course, but I don’t think I want to spend the money for a machine to do it for me, though it is kind of tempting… heh.
@JnKL@mike808@PocketBrain@Pony@tinamarie1974 My Obamacare doesn’t cover the consumables so I’ve been ordering my Wisp mask pads from AMZN. I’m due for a new set of headgear, I probably need to get one on order.
@JT954 Try a buckwheat pillow (aka “Sobikawa” As Seen on TV). You don’t need a normal sized pillow, a much smaller one works fine. Adjust the amount of buckwheat hulls for firmness, replace every year or so when it doesn’t cool as much - it means the hulls have flattened out from use. All natural, gluten-free, organic, etc. and you compost the old buckwheat.
How old is your new furball? I’ve found they start to calm down sometime after turning one and usually before they turn two. I have a 10 or so month old who still thinks its time to get up when it is 4-5am. I am hoping as it get darker earlier and lighter later he will stay asleep longer.
Maybe gather up all the toys that are loud when played with each night?
Good luck keeping your sanity through this stage of their life.
@Kidsandliz oh, he’s about 10 weeks old. The dog found him out in our backyard and I felt sorry for him. My 1 year old female loves having him here. It isn’t always toys, lol. Sometimes they knock pens off a desk and chase it all over. Good thing he’s cute.
Want to sleep when I’m supposed to be awake and am awake when I’m supposed to be asleep, it’s a vicious cycle that I can’t seem to break currently. I’m sure after next week when I get to travel and see my kids for the one week of the year the court actually let’s me I will be better…at least a little anyway. Not even that can fix the constant pain I’m in from my two hurneated discs in my back or from my spinal column narrowing because I don’t know why…
I left my job for health reasons a few months back (with my wife’s encouragement), and am now getting the best sleep of my adult life.
I realize now that I hated my job so much that I was staying up late just to maximize the amount of time I was both awake and not there. Now my job is to take care of the property (15 acres and a rental house), which I absolutely love doing. So now I look forward to going to bed so I can get back to it that much sooner.
I have a wife that snores and it’s getting worse but she refuses to try any of those devices in her mouth or nose. Any suggestions besides another room?
@readnj Story of my life except its my husband. Between his insane snoring n my herniated discs, ive been on the couch for a little over 10yrs. He didnt snore when we were younger & it wasnt as loud when it first started. I dont work. He works ATLEAST 13hrs a day. He refuses to try ANYTHING!!! I ve never been a Sleeper!! About 3hrs a day. 5 hrs a day when i worked. Jus wanna add that i DID work12-16hrs a day for 20yrs. Im not lazy!!! Lol
I can just about sleep on command if I decide to (or not at all if I don’t). 3-4 minutes tops and I’m out till responsibilities allow. Without an alarm I can sleep for a good 9 hours in one blink.
My problem is there’s always so much interesting stuff to read and learn about, plus general stuff that needs to be done, that I never get a lot total, so despite enjoying sleep, I only wind up getting about 3-5 hours average (about 6 last night though!). Lately I keep thinking that I’m probably causing myself a ton of damage by not sleeping enough, so I hope to finally get to the point where I value sleep as much as learning/doing stuff. One convincing tidbit is that supposedly memory retains information better when you sleep well, so staying awake beyond a certain amount intending to acquire knowledge is counter-productive.
@jester747 I saw research that staying up all night and you perform, cognitively, as if you are legally drunk. I ask my students if they’d want to take an exam drunk. They say no. I tell them about that study, of what sleep does with respect to remembering things, research also shows they’d be better off going to bed before midnight and getting up early rather than vise versa (research again), etc. Don’t know if they listen but nice to know this information.
I can sleep anywhere. Yesterday I fell asleep in the waiting room waiting for physical therapy. I got there early, thought I would take a nap.
Woke up to everyone in the office staring at me.
I am sure I’d sleep better/longer at night if meh posted their daily deal at 8pm central; didn’t have all night 24 hour mehathons (or whatever they are called) and never sold anything I wanted to buy instead of most of the time selling things I never wanted to buy :snicker:
Like a baby
/giphy sleeping like a baby
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@tinamarie1974
John McCain, to Stephen Colbert, after losing to Obama in 2008…
“After I lost I slept like a baby,” McCain told Colbert. “Sleep two hours wake up and cry. Sleep two hours wake up and cry.”
Colbert then introduced a hypothetical: “If you had won—” Colbert said before McCain quickly interjected, “I wouldn’t be on this show,” McCain joked.
The Republican senator said he had to put the loss behind him and called worrying about what he could have done a “needless exercise.”
When Colbert asked him how often he does the needless exercise, McCain admitted to about four, five times a night.
@jester747 you raise a valid point, maybe I should say I sleep like a rock! Solid, uninterrupted sleep. It is amazing and a welcome change from some recent issues I had with sleep
I recently got a CPAP machine, and hot DAMN that thing makes me sleep like a rock. It’s pretty amazing.
@Pony They’re pretty awesome.
WORKER BEES! HERCULES! TURKEY GREASE! AWESOME!
@Pony I should get one.
@PocketBrain @Pony @therealjrn
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Just in time for the Halloween season!
The Facehugger 2000 CPAP Mask
@mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @therealjrn I have never heard someone say they didn’t sleep better with CPAP.
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @therealjrn it is true, love mine!!
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @tinamarie1974 I also sprung for a SoClean II machine. It’s pretty awesome too, keeping my gear nice and fresh and clean.
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/giphy it’s magic
VAN GOGH! MANGO! TANGO! AWESOME!
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @therealjrn So I have a question about the so clean. Is it just the purchase of the unit or are there mountjoy maintenance accessory purchases required?
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @therealjrn Sleeping better, yes. Sleeping well, still no.
)
Before being diagnosed with severe sleep apnea and getting on a CPAP machine, I could barely function and would feel like I had a major hangover most days, without even having enjoyed being drunk the night before.
(A friend said, “might as well start drinking, then”. Hard to argue with that logic.
With CPAP, I am definitely far more functional, but the mask itself frequently disrupts my sleep and I’m still constantly tired during the day.
It’s a love/hate relationship. Very grateful I’m not a zombie anymore, but I really hate wearing the thing.
I’ve never been an ‘easy’ sleeper and, as a strictly side-sleeper, I’ve never found a mask that didn’t wake me up almost every time I roll over, and I’ve tried plenty.
The most comfortable one I ever tried was called Sleepweaver, made by Circadiance. It’s made of fabric rather than silicone and basically inflates like a balloon to create a seal. Very lightweight and comfy. Unfortunately, the slightest movement would break the seal, so as comfortable as it was, it just didn’t work.
Currently using the Philips Dreamwear nasal mask, which works really well and has an arrangement where the hose connects at the top of your head, which is much less obtrusive, but the mask still mashes against my nose while I sleep on my side and too often gets pushed out of position when I roll over. It does maintain a seal better than anything else I’ve tried though.
Those nasal “pillow” masks are a special form of torture and one of the most deceptively named products ever. These are the ones with the prongs that go up your nose. It’s like the marketing folks tried it and said, “my God, this is the most horribly uncomfortable thing ever. Let’s call it a ‘pillow’.” Would be more aptly called nasal destroyer or some-such.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve actually never been to a sleep doc. When I first went to my primary doc to address the issue, the sleep specialist he referred me to had like a 4 month wait for an appointment. I told my doc I’d never make it that long, so I skipped the specialist and went straight to the overnight clinic and came out w/ diagnosis and prescription.
I don’t believe I was properly titrated and, since I wake up tired even when I’m not aware of the mask disturbing my sleep, I don’t think I’m getting the proper therapy. My bro has a sleep doc he likes, and I’ll make an appointment with him ‘soon’ - been saying that for at least a year now, gotta get on it.
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @tinamarie1974
I don’t know what that is. I just made a cash purchase from the same place I got my CPAP machine. I wanted to pick it up that day, although AMZN carries them at the same price.
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @therealjrn bah, damn phone is auto correcting me again! I was wondering if there was any MONTHLY MAINTENANCE accessories required to operate the unit.
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @tinamarie1974 The SoClean 2 has a consumable Cartridge Filter and a Check Valve. I have yet to replace them though but I bought a generic two-pack of each to have on hand for about $18 total on AMZN.
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @therealjrn @tinamarie1974 I didn’t even know maintenance machines were a thing. I’m very fortunate in that my CPAP stuff is covered by my insurance, and the mask, hose and reservoir will be replaced by them every few months. I do clean them, of course, but I don’t think I want to spend the money for a machine to do it for me, though it is kind of tempting… heh.
@JnKL @mike808 @PocketBrain @Pony @tinamarie1974 My Obamacare doesn’t cover the consumables so I’ve been ordering my Wisp mask pads from AMZN. I’m due for a new set of headgear, I probably need to get one on order.
I either don’t get enough sleep or sleep way too much.
Pretty damn good thanks to the Bedjet:
Now if I can just find something to keep my pillow cool. Feels like my head turns it into a heater.
@JT954 Best commercial ever!![](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
@JT954 IT’S A METAPHOR!!!
@JT954 Try a buckwheat pillow (aka “Sobikawa” As Seen on TV). You don’t need a normal sized pillow, a much smaller one works fine. Adjust the amount of buckwheat hulls for firmness, replace every year or so when it doesn’t cool as much - it means the hulls have flattened out from use. All natural, gluten-free, organic, etc. and you compost the old buckwheat.
@mike808 Wow, why have I not heard about that? Thanks. Definitely checking it out.
Not great. Life stress and a new kitten that thinks 4 am is the ideal time to chase loud rolly things through the house.
@tnhillbillygal … but it is the ideal time.
=^…^=
@tnhillbillygal
How old is your new furball? I’ve found they start to calm down sometime after turning one and usually before they turn two. I have a 10 or so month old who still thinks its time to get up when it is 4-5am. I am hoping as it get darker earlier and lighter later he will stay asleep longer.
Maybe gather up all the toys that are loud when played with each night?
Good luck keeping your sanity through this stage of their life.
@Kidsandliz oh, he’s about 10 weeks old. The dog found him out in our backyard and I felt sorry for him. My 1 year old female loves having him here. It isn’t always toys, lol. Sometimes they knock pens off a desk and chase it all over. Good thing he’s cute.
@Kidsandliz![enter image description here](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
@tnhillbillygal They look very happy together!!
@tnhillbillygal yeah, the 4am kitten thing? That is my fault. Not much you can do about it, though.
As my wife lets me.
Want to sleep when I’m supposed to be awake and am awake when I’m supposed to be asleep, it’s a vicious cycle that I can’t seem to break currently. I’m sure after next week when I get to travel and see my kids for the one week of the year the court actually let’s me I will be better…at least a little anyway. Not even that can fix the constant pain I’m in from my two hurneated discs in my back or from my spinal column narrowing because I don’t know why…
With my eyes closed.
@TheCO2 That’s what my grandfather always answered. So, TWGS
@mml666 Did you just call me old?![:older_man:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/emojione/assets/3.1/png/64/1f474.png)
@TheCO2 Nope. Just that you spoke wisdom.
I left my job for health reasons a few months back (with my wife’s encouragement), and am now getting the best sleep of my adult life.
I realize now that I hated my job so much that I was staying up late just to maximize the amount of time I was both awake and not there. Now my job is to take care of the property (15 acres and a rental house), which I absolutely love doing. So now I look forward to going to bed so I can get back to it that much sooner.
@dannybeans that is fantastic! I cannot even imagine doing that. Good on you and your support team!
I have a wife that snores and it’s getting worse but she refuses to try any of those devices in her mouth or nose. Any suggestions besides another room?
@readnj The right pillow can make a huge difference. Just make sure it’s good and tight against her face and the snoring will soon subside.
@readnj Story of my life except its my husband. Between his insane snoring n my herniated discs, ive been on the couch for a little over 10yrs. He didnt snore when we were younger & it wasnt as loud when it first started. I dont work. He works ATLEAST 13hrs a day. He refuses to try ANYTHING!!! I ve never been a Sleeper!! About 3hrs a day. 5 hrs a day when i worked. Jus wanna add that i DID work12-16hrs a day for 20yrs. Im not lazy!!! Lol
@dannybeans Hmm… LOL
@readnj
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/image ear plugs
Seriously though, has she been tested for sleeping disorders?
Horizontally. I prefer vertically, but I keep falling over and waking myself up.
Broken ribs. Sleep is impossible. Ouch!
I can just about sleep on command if I decide to (or not at all if I don’t). 3-4 minutes tops and I’m out till responsibilities allow. Without an alarm I can sleep for a good 9 hours in one blink.
My problem is there’s always so much interesting stuff to read and learn about, plus general stuff that needs to be done, that I never get a lot total, so despite enjoying sleep, I only wind up getting about 3-5 hours average (about 6 last night though!). Lately I keep thinking that I’m probably causing myself a ton of damage by not sleeping enough, so I hope to finally get to the point where I value sleep as much as learning/doing stuff. One convincing tidbit is that supposedly memory retains information better when you sleep well, so staying awake beyond a certain amount intending to acquire knowledge is counter-productive.
@jester747 I saw research that staying up all night and you perform, cognitively, as if you are legally drunk. I ask my students if they’d want to take an exam drunk. They say no. I tell them about that study, of what sleep does with respect to remembering things, research also shows they’d be better off going to bed before midnight and getting up early rather than vise versa (research again), etc. Don’t know if they listen but nice to know this information.
Trying to get used to sleeping alone after a decade. Meh.
I can sleep anywhere. Yesterday I fell asleep in the waiting room waiting for physical therapy. I got there early, thought I would take a nap.
Woke up to everyone in the office staring at me.
I am sure I’d sleep better/longer at night if meh posted their daily deal at 8pm central; didn’t have all night 24 hour mehathons (or whatever they are called) and never sold anything I wanted to buy instead of most of the time selling things I never wanted to buy :snicker: