The last surviving crewman of the USS Arizona during the December 7th, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor passed away Monday morning at the age of 102. He was one of only 335 survivors of the attack; 1177 members of the Arizona’s crew were killed.
Lou Conter served as a quartermaster aboard that ship and had just come on duty when the attack started. He may have saved up to 20 other sailors in the aftermath, then participated in rescue attempts for several more days before they were halted.
He then entered flight school and flew PBY Catalina aircraft, surviving being shot down twice. He served in Korea, helped to develop the Navy’s first SERE — Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape school, then as an advisor to ongoing administrations before retiring with 28 years of service.
There were 22 known American military survivors of the attack before Conter’s passing. Another, Richard Higgins, also passed at the age of 102 on March 19th; he was a radioman stationed at a Hawaii naval base.
I realize this is not really what this thread is for… but I had two grade/high school classmates die this week. We’re not old. I just turned 40 last year.
One died of a stroke and the other of kidney failure.
RIP Jeremy and Nick.
@Cerridwyn not intending to mock the dead… But strange I just found out Mojo Nixon died within the week and now OJ…
/youtube Orenthal James is a very bad man - Mojo Nixon
I recall that after the trial, a couple of the jurors commented that the prosecution just hammered them so hard that they stopped caring about justice and just wanted it to be over. It should also not be ignored that in the subsequent civil trial, he was held to have been fully liable for the deaths; essentially found guilty.
Also DNA evidence was a pretty new thing. Many people were barely aware of it and didn’t understand what it meant.
And the defense really leaned into trying to confuse the jury.
According to the NYT the trial brought domestic violence out if the shadows and made people aware that the public or social image of a supposed abuser had nothing to do with the potential for domestic violence.
And the laws changed.
I remember video of Denise Brown testifying in Washington
@f00l Much of the post-trial commentary observed that this was a case where they proved just how idiotic it was for a police department to have cops who were overtly racist, or would create fake evidence or lie about what was found, anywhere, anytime. The mere fact that the defense could call into question the reliability and impartiality of the LAPD itself (and particularly Detective Fuhrman) made the prosecution’s entire case materially weaker - and the defense kept that front and center. But had modern DNA analysis been available, and had the jurors’ understanding of it been better, there’s probably no way he could have walked. That evidence was retested later, and yes, it shows that the verdict of “not guilty” was baseless.
And here we are, almost 30 years later, and a friend in the LA area tells me that while LAPD is slightly more careful not to assign overtly racist assholes to areas where that’s no longer fashionable, there are plenty of places where it’s still very much the same as it ever was.
Robert MacNeil, who created the no-frills PBS newscast “The MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour” in the 1970s and co-anchored the show with his late partner, Jim Lehrer, for two decades, died on Friday. He was 93.
@chienfou@Kyeh He was a great guy, kind, gentle, and there for you if you needed him. Spent weekends at there house while we built the Enterprise bridge model for a fan based California Star Trek convention in the 1970s. Found my daughter’s birth announcement when I moved, it was drawn by BJo back in 1979,
Rock ‘n’ roll pioneer Duane Eddy has died aged 86. The Grammy-winning artist died of cancer on Tuesday in hospital in Tennessee, surrounded by his family. His representative told Variety: ‘Duane inspired a generation of guitarists the world over with his unmistakable signature ‘Twang’ sound. ’
Bernard Hill, who played King Theoden in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the Captain in the Titanic movie, and numerous other roles on TV and film, Passed away May 5th, 2024
Hill was 79 years old, and was scheduled to attend a convention this weekend, reportedly with other LoTR cast members. No cause of death has been reported.
Altho what shows in the screen is special effects enhanced, this is by far the largest (in terms of real horses and riders) Calvary charged ever filmed.
They basically got every rider and horse in the country who could come to participate.
—
The “ugly orc” was designed by the effects team to resemble Harvey Weinstein, on Peter Jackson’s orders.
@Cerridwyn He was definitely a catalyst for much of Hollywood’s later achievements, including styles, genres, and many people in the business.
According to that obit linked above,
“This obituary was written by the late Associated Press reporter Bob Thomas, who died in 2014.”
HTH was that done, if Corman died in May 2024? Am I missing something obvious?
@Cerridwyn@phendrick AP keeps a voluminous file of prefab obits for notable people; it gets updated if major news comes through about a new thing they’ve accomplished or a new scandal that they’ve been through. Once they go into full retirement, it will get updated only irregularly if at all. Large newspapers do the same for local “important people” like former mayors, notable judges, sports celebs, rich people, and significant public assholes. This is a long-standing tradition in the journalism trade; the one thing that no news source wants to do is have a celeb death notice turn up and catch them flatfooted with nothing to add. “John Parker is dead, he fell on his head” does not cut it.
@phendrick@werehatrack There has been a lot of press lately about Britain’s King Charles’s obit being updated, again, related to his cancer diagnosis. But yeah,
Documentary filmmaker Morgan Spurlock, an Oscar nominee whose most famous work “Super Size Me” skewered American food and diets and who notably ate only at McDonald’s for a month to illustrate the dangers of a fast-food diet, has died from complications of cancer. He was 53.
Bill Walton, basketball standout in both college (2 national championships at UCLA while playing for legendary coach John Wooden) and professional (2 NBA championships) plus numerous individual honors, has died of cancer at the age of 71. He was a 6’11" center but also endured many injuries and other health issues during his career. Also noted for his quirky personality and broadcasting appearances. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40229031/nba-champion-hall-famer-bill-walton-dies-71
The Waltonesque-character’s appearance in Doonesbury was v brief.
Kinda back during the mania right after Walton joined the pros if I remember.
Way back when everyone read Doonesbury (even if they hated it.)
I can’t even find a Google search result for it tho. The character may have only appeared for a week or two, or something.
I clearly remember the Doonesbury Waltonesque-character slam-dunking a basketball made of vegetables, all the while mentally in an implied “nirvana-headspace”.
Anyway, I’ve also been away from Doonesbury for many decades.
I guess the strip is still being published, but have not checked.
My paying attention to comic strips nosedived when Calvin & Hobbes retired. And (like most people), i’ve not bothered with print newspapers or even their digital versions in a long time. (Cost too much money, take too much of my time, and don’t reflect the local news or views any longer.) Occasionally i’ll go online to see a few of my old favorite strips, when the thought hits me. But not Doonesbury; lost most interest in that after grad college.
One time decades ago for some reason I had to be escorted thru the endless basement corridor area of UT Southwestern Medical School. I mean endless.
I was trying to get from one place to another but construction was blocking all.
So a security guard escorted me on a 20 min detour thru these long corridors where staff and researchers worked or had offices, but where patients (or living patients) never visited.
And I loved it.
Because the walls and doors were lined with printouts of staff fav Far Side cartoons.
The guard took me around to show his personal favorite cartoons.
Robert “Al” Persichitti from Rochester, New York, was airlifted to a hospital in Germany on 30 May after suffering a medical emergency aboard a ship heading to Europe.
He died the following day, aged 102.
A Navy veteran, he was heading to Europe to take part in events commemorating the 80th anniversary of the D-Day invasions. He also served in the Pacific theater.
On this 80th anniversary, the number of surviving veterans is dwindling rapidly. The youngest of them are in their late 90s.
Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders.
(Maybe?)
Truly mixed messages from this link. Headline and lead for article says he died, but end of article says there’s a search and rescue mission in place?
I suspect they met in recovery rather than rescue. According to other sources it seems to be a confirmed fatality.
@Kyeh
That’s what I had gathered as well. Thanks for the confirmation. That is SUCH an iconic picture!
Much like the D-Day participants, we will begin losing early astronauts at an alarming rate I’m sure.
On April 11, 2024, forensic sociological and pioneer Dr Evan Stark died at age 82.
Stark developed and pioneered the concept of “coercive control” as a dominant abuse tactic in intimate partner violence, used by the abuser to create a home atmosphere for the victim that was similar to the treatment on hostages and kidnap victims.
Before the work he and his wife Dr Anne Flitcraft spent their lives on, often domestic victimization was often only judged by the courts in reference to the most extreme acts of physical violence (sometime or often unprovable).
This resulted in the police and courts sometimes punishing the victim or removing the victim’s access to children.
Now most courts try to view situations thru “coercive control”, in which the victim often suffers extremes daily personal and financial control, intimidation, harassment, and monitoring by the prep which us essentially intended to control their lives and make them always “in the wrong” and always needing (and often failing to get) permission and approval for the simplest daily activities.
Violence, intimidation, threats, isolation, physical and financial measures, gaslighting, lies, DARVO, are some of the methods often used by the perp.
Due to the work and advocacy of Drs Stark and Flitcraft among others, all these domestic tactics are now seen as relevant to any criminal, family, or civil case, and many of the tactics are outright illegal in themselves.
@duodec@FreePasta
They’re playing a game tonight at rickwood field (Birmingham) where he got his start in the negro major leagues. The game is between the San Francisco Giants and the St Louis cardinals. He was set to attend, but obviously that didn’t pan out. I’m sure there will be a lot of sentiment expressed concerning his legacy as well as that of rickwood field.
James Chance, born James Siegfried, aka James Black, aka James Chance again, April 20, 1953-June 18, 2024. Founder of seminal No Wave bands Teenage Jesus and the Jerks and James Chance and the Contortions, later of James White and the Blacks and various reiterations.
/youtube the contortions - contort yourself
Joe Elmore, long time host of the PBS series “Tennessee Crossroads” and automotive enthusiast shows “Muscle Cars” and “Horsepower TV” passed away after a long illness.
I am an unapologetic car guy. I used to watch all those weekend shows on TNN (later Spike and whatever that network is called now), and outside of occasionally getting tired of all the chevy content (but, well, chevys needed the most help to be worth anything so it was understandable) I absolutely loved the shows; Joe’s two shows were consistently enjoyable and often educational.
@ExtraMedium@Kyeh@mossygreen Noooooooo! I always loved his comedy, but he was also a talented musician & painter, which i was surprised to find out was his greatest passion. Quite the Renaissance man. RIP, Gene Parmesan.
I love how the “master” of disguise’s Mexican accent is a bad impersonation of Italian!
@ExtraMedium@ircon96@Kyeh There is a quote of his that I don’t feel like looking up right now to the effect that he’s the only person who went into comedy to support his art.
@ExtraMedium@Kyeh@mossygreen I remember Fernwood Tonight. It’s available on the internet archive if you want to watch a few episodes and raise a glass.
@ExtraMedium@Kyeh@sammydog01 OH. I bought the Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman complete box set when it came out (also the first season set, when it came out) to ENCOURAGE them to do a Fernwood 2 Night release, to no avail. I’ll have to take a look!
@ExtraMedium@ircon96@Kyeh@sammydog01 I did not watch Soundstage on channel 11. I did not listen to it on WXRT. I had no idea you could put your speakers on either side of the the tv for a stereo simulcast. That must have seemed otherworldly in 1976.
I missed this earlier in the month. Jerry West, Three time BAL Hall of Fame recipient whose entire career was with the Lakers (Minnesota then Los Angeles) passed away on June 12th at the age of 86.
I was a fan of professional sports back then, before the strikes and thuggery became commonplace, and West always seemed to be a class act, as well as an amazing player.
Also Parnelli Jones, one of the most well known and dominant race car drivers of the 1960s and following decades, passed away June 4th. I also followed racing back then; not his first win at the Indy 500 in 1963 (I’m not that old). He also won at the Pike’s Peak Hill Climb and Baja 500 and Baja 1000 races.
Morash worked for GBH, better known as WGBH Boston public television station since around 1958. Among other things he was a pioneer of the original ‘reality’ type shows like This Old House, the original Victory Garden, Julia Child’s The French Chef, and the New Yankee Workshop.
We watched these shows when they were new; I remember my Dad trying his hand at making furniture out of pallet wood after seeing Norm Abrams doing that on his show and our small gardens were inspired by those early Victory Garden shows.
Damn. First Buffett, now this. The ending to the “Newhart” series was brilliant. Loved him as Professor Proton. And all the others…RIP and thanks for all the laughter.
The last surviving crewman of the USS Arizona during the December 7th, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor passed away Monday morning at the age of 102. He was one of only 335 survivors of the attack; 1177 members of the Arizona’s crew were killed.
Lou Conter served as a quartermaster aboard that ship and had just come on duty when the attack started. He may have saved up to 20 other sailors in the aftermath, then participated in rescue attempts for several more days before they were halted.
He then entered flight school and flew PBY Catalina aircraft, surviving being shot down twice. He served in Korea, helped to develop the Navy’s first SERE — Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape school, then as an advisor to ongoing administrations before retiring with 28 years of service.
There were 22 known American military survivors of the attack before Conter’s passing. Another, Richard Higgins, also passed at the age of 102 on March 19th; he was a radioman stationed at a Hawaii naval base.
Remember.
And we are diminished.
@duodec
The.Greatest.Generation
/youtube taps
Joe Flaherty from SCTV has passed away. He was 82. I remember him as being very funny.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-flaherty-dies-obit-sctv-3d61b65a0ff3c484aff9032ac2a7fc2d
@ironcheftoni “Jackass!!” -Joe Flaherty’s character in Happy Gilmore.
I realize this is not really what this thread is for… but I had two grade/high school classmates die this week. We’re not old. I just turned 40 last year.
One died of a stroke and the other of kidney failure.
RIP Jeremy and Nick.
@mbersiam May their memories be a blessing to you and their families.
OJ
https://abcnews.go.com/US/oj-simpson-former-football-star-acquitted-murder-dies/story?id=16354000
@Cerridwyn Well, did he or didn’t he?
@phendrick only his hairdresser knows for sure
@Cerridwyn @phendrick
He did.
Imho
@f00l @phendrick I don’t disagree. And I really think his work of quote fiction unquote was a really a confession
@Cerridwyn not intending to mock the dead… But strange I just found out Mojo Nixon died within the week and now OJ…
/youtube Orenthal James is a very bad man - Mojo Nixon
@Cerridwyn @OnionSoup @phendrick
The white Bronco
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/arts/television/oj-simpson-white-bronco-museum.html
@Cerridwyn @OnionSoup @phendrick
Thoughts on OJ
I recall that after the trial, a couple of the jurors commented that the prosecution just hammered them so hard that they stopped caring about justice and just wanted it to be over. It should also not be ignored that in the subsequent civil trial, he was held to have been fully liable for the deaths; essentially found guilty.
@werehatrack
Also DNA evidence was a pretty new thing. Many people were barely aware of it and didn’t understand what it meant.
And the defense really leaned into trying to confuse the jury.
@werehatrack
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/13/us/oj-simpson-domestic-violence.html
According to the NYT the trial brought domestic violence out if the shadows and made people aware that the public or social image of a supposed abuser had nothing to do with the potential for domestic violence.
And the laws changed.
I remember video of Denise Brown testifying in Washington
@f00l Much of the post-trial commentary observed that this was a case where they proved just how idiotic it was for a police department to have cops who were overtly racist, or would create fake evidence or lie about what was found, anywhere, anytime. The mere fact that the defense could call into question the reliability and impartiality of the LAPD itself (and particularly Detective Fuhrman) made the prosecution’s entire case materially weaker - and the defense kept that front and center. But had modern DNA analysis been available, and had the jurors’ understanding of it been better, there’s probably no way he could have walked. That evidence was retested later, and yes, it shows that the verdict of “not guilty” was baseless.
And here we are, almost 30 years later, and a friend in the LA area tells me that while LAPD is slightly more careful not to assign overtly racist assholes to areas where that’s no longer fashionable, there are plenty of places where it’s still very much the same as it ever was.
@werehatrack
I believe your friend
I remember at the time hearing some people say that they thought the OJ verdict was payback for what happened to Rodney King
Don’t have a sense of whether or not that’s true since I have a little connection on a personal level with LA
Peter Higgs, winner of the 2013 Nobel Prize in Physics, died on the 8th of April, 2024. The Higgs Boson is named for him.
https://www.livescience.com/physics-mathematics/particle-physics/peter-higgs-nobel-prize-winning-physicist-who-predicted-the-higgs-boson-dies-at-94
Robert MacNeil, who created the no-frills PBS newscast “The MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour” in the 1970s and co-anchored the show with his late partner, Jim Lehrer, for two decades, died on Friday. He was 93.
@macromeh
I always liked him.
Faith Ringgold, quilt maker, passed April 13th at age 93.
https://www.npr.org/2024/04/13/685930840/faith-ringgold-quilt-and-visual-artist-dies-at-93
Eleanor Coppola, artist and matriarch of filmmaking dynasty, dead at 87
Dickey Betts, influential Allman Brothers Band singer and guitarist, dies at Sarasota home
https://ssnews.page.link/gMTW341UPmo3TtgX9
@chienfou![:cry:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f622.png)
/youtube The Allman Brothers Band - High Falls
One of my favorite instrumental pieces of all time.
Christian singer Mandisa gone at 47.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/04/19/mandisa-dead-american-idol-alum-christian-singer-47/73381912007/
/image Mandisa
![$args](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
RIP John Trimble
I was proud to call you friend
https://www.startrek.com/news/remembering-john-trimble
https://www.facebook.com/100063629317548/posts/pfbid035gwqB8Br6fuHAQzD8ZXBQV8AxJfEZhfzLqKGUK3Rt9CNZzYEP4yS81ziW7Ve8C1fl/?mibextid=cr9u03
@Cerridwyn Wow!
@Cerridwyn @Kyeh
on the startek.com site his pic looks like David Letterman!
@chienfou @Kyeh He was a great guy, kind, gentle, and there for you if you needed him. Spent weekends at there house while we built the Enterprise bridge model for a fan based California Star Trek convention in the 1970s. Found my daughter’s birth announcement when I moved, it was drawn by BJo back in 1979,
@Cerridwyn @Kyeh
very cool…
@Cerridwyn @chienfou Yes, that sounds so special!
Sorry @Cerridwyn
Theo Katechis, co-owner of iconic Montgomery restaurant Chris’ Hot Dogs, has died.
https://montgomeryadvertiser-al.newsmemory.com/?publink=1e3bc265e_134d24f
Moody Blues founding member Mike Pinder dies at 82
www.wbab.com/news/moody-blues-founding/3KLWHXQ5SEKEY5A7FMCYHIN634/
@heartny Aww. One of my all-time favorite
bandsorchestras.Pinder wrote some memorable songs for them:
Rock ‘n’ roll pioneer Duane Eddy has died aged 86. The Grammy-winning artist died of cancer on Tuesday in hospital in Tennessee, surrounded by his family. His representative told Variety: ‘Duane inspired a generation of guitarists the world over with his unmistakable signature ‘Twang’ sound. ’
Bernard Hill, who played King Theoden in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, the Captain in the Titanic movie, and numerous other roles on TV and film, Passed away May 5th, 2024
Hill was 79 years old, and was scheduled to attend a convention this weekend, reportedly with other LoTR cast members. No cause of death has been reported.
Farewell, Theoden King.
@duodec
The second vid is the cavalry charge in ROTK
Altho what shows in the screen is special effects enhanced, this is by far the largest (in terms of real horses and riders) Calvary charged ever filmed.
They basically got every rider and horse in the country who could come to participate.
—
The “ugly orc” was designed by the effects team to resemble Harvey Weinstein, on Peter Jackson’s orders.
PJ did not like Weinstein.
@duodec @f00l Ooo, that’s an interesting factoid!
@duodec @f00l @Kyeh
“ugly ork”
![enter image description here](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
Weinstein
![](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
@duodec I may have to do an LOTR marathon late next week. It has been more than five years since I last did that.
I think it’s time.
Hail, Theoden-King! You are not forgotten!
Roger Corman, king of the “B” movie
https://ktla.com/entertainment/ap-roger-corman-hollywood-mentor-and-king-of-the-bs-dies-at-98/
@Cerridwyn He helped bring us so many great films.![:cry:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f622.png)
@Cerridwyn He was definitely a catalyst for much of Hollywood’s later achievements, including styles, genres, and many people in the business.
According to that obit linked above,
“This obituary was written by the late Associated Press reporter Bob Thomas, who died in 2014.”
HTH was that done, if Corman died in May 2024? Am I missing something obvious?
@Cerridwyn @phendrick Says right there in the quote that Bob was a “late…reporter”.![:wink:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f609.png)
@Cerridwyn @macromeh![:man_facepalming:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f926-2642.png)
@Cerridwyn @phendrick AP keeps a voluminous file of prefab obits for notable people; it gets updated if major news comes through about a new thing they’ve accomplished or a new scandal that they’ve been through. Once they go into full retirement, it will get updated only irregularly if at all. Large newspapers do the same for local “important people” like former mayors, notable judges, sports celebs, rich people, and significant public assholes. This is a long-standing tradition in the journalism trade; the one thing that no news source wants to do is have a celeb death notice turn up and catch them flatfooted with nothing to add. “John Parker is dead, he fell on his head” does not cut it.
@Cerridwyn
yeah, Corman was the catalyst behind many (later) well-known careers, both actors and directors.
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack Interesting. I didn’t know that.
@phendrick @werehatrack There has been a lot of press lately about Britain’s King Charles’s obit being updated, again, related to his cancer diagnosis. But yeah,
Legendary saxophonist David Sanborn, known for playing on tracks with David Bowie, Stevie Wonder and other iconic artists, has died at age 78.
@macromeh Great sax player and fellow Tampan.![:cry:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f622.png)
@macromeh @yakkoTDI
I liked his collaborations with Bob James.
Oh, that IS sad.
Dabney Coleman. Can’t even choose a role.
/youtube Dabney Coleman
@mossygreen https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dabney-coleman-actor-who-portrayed-comic-scoundrels-dies-at-92/ar-BB1mAGn7
Documentary filmmaker Morgan Spurlock, an Oscar nominee whose most famous work “Super Size Me” skewered American food and diets and who notably ate only at McDonald’s for a month to illustrate the dangers of a fast-food diet, has died from complications of cancer. He was 53.
@macromeh I can’t help wondering if his McDonald’s-only diet stunt contributed to his early death.
@Kyeh @macromeh
Or maybe the fact he was an alcoholic during the same time had something to do with it
https://ssnews.page.link/c2TPJzZpj8MQcVWe7
@chienfou @macromeh![:slight_frown:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f641.png)
Oh, most likely.
End Of An Era: Beloved “Doge” Meme Dog Kabosu Passes Away At Age 18
www.boredpanda.com/kabosu-dog-shiba-inu-doge-meme-passes-18/
@heartny
She lived a pretty long life!
@Kyeh Yeah, I thought 18 was pretty good for a dog.
@heartny @Kyeh Much sad.
Disney songwriter Richard Sherman, dead at 95.
Won an Academy Award for one of his songs. More: https://www.npr.org/2024/05/25/1119947006/richard-sherman-dead-disney-composer
@werehatrack
Bill Walton, basketball standout in both college (2 national championships at UCLA while playing for legendary coach John Wooden) and professional (2 NBA championships) plus numerous individual honors, has died of cancer at the age of 71. He was a 6’11" center but also endured many injuries and other health issues during his career. Also noted for his quirky personality and broadcasting appearances.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40229031/nba-champion-hall-famer-bill-walton-dies-71
@phendrick
For a time he was beautifully caricatured in Doonesbury, if I remember correctly
The strip had a Bill Walton-esque holistic vegan nirvana’d basketball player, who only played with basketballs made entirely of vegetables
or something like that
if I remember correctly, it was clearly a loving tribute to Bill Walton
@f00l I haven’t seen a Doonesbury strip in forever and guess I never did read any of that story arc.
@phendrick He was also a Deadhead extraordinaire. Brought tons of love and smiles to the Grateful Dead community.
@phendrick
The Waltonesque-character’s appearance in Doonesbury was v brief.
Kinda back during the mania right after Walton joined the pros if I remember.
Way back when everyone read Doonesbury (even if they hated it.)
I can’t even find a Google search result for it tho. The character may have only appeared for a week or two, or something.
I clearly remember the Doonesbury Waltonesque-character slam-dunking a basketball made of vegetables, all the while mentally in an implied “nirvana-headspace”.
Anyway, I’ve also been away from Doonesbury for many decades.
I guess the strip is still being published, but have not checked.
@f00l
Yeah, I tried yesterday with no luck. Apparently it is still being published, but took a major hit when Gannett dropped it from its papers.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/doonesbury-censored-gannett-papers/
My paying attention to comic strips nosedived when Calvin & Hobbes retired. And (like most people), i’ve not bothered with print newspapers or even their digital versions in a long time. (Cost too much money, take too much of my time, and don’t reflect the local news or views any longer.) Occasionally i’ll go online to see a few of my old favorite strips, when the thought hits me. But not Doonesbury; lost most interest in that after grad college.
@phendrick
One time decades ago for some reason I had to be escorted thru the endless basement corridor area of UT Southwestern Medical School. I mean endless.
I was trying to get from one place to another but construction was blocking all.
So a security guard escorted me on a 20 min detour thru these long corridors where staff and researchers worked or had offices, but where patients (or living patients) never visited.
And I loved it.
Because the walls and doors were lined with printouts of staff fav Far Side cartoons.
The guard took me around to show his personal favorite cartoons.
Good for the soul, thought I.
@phendrick![enter image description here](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
Precious Moments creator Sam Butcher dies at 85 surrounded by loved ones
www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/05/21/precious-moments-creator-sam-butcher-dies/73794000007/
Robert “Al” Persichitti from Rochester, New York, was airlifted to a hospital in Germany on 30 May after suffering a medical emergency aboard a ship heading to Europe.
He died the following day, aged 102.
A Navy veteran, he was heading to Europe to take part in events commemorating the 80th anniversary of the D-Day invasions. He also served in the Pacific theater.
On this 80th anniversary, the number of surviving veterans is dwindling rapidly. The youngest of them are in their late 90s.
We are diminished.
Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders.
(Maybe?)
Truly mixed messages from this link. Headline and lead for article says he died, but end of article says there’s a search and rescue mission in place?
I suspect they met in recovery rather than rescue. According to other sources it seems to be a confirmed fatality.
https://ssnews.page.link/caYioFujRVkGSyGp6
@chienfou Yes, it now says he has died.
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https://apnews.com/article/plane-crash-san-juan-islands-washington-6d3800130ef4e67d761f96b328f7c263
@Kyeh
That’s what I had gathered as well. Thanks for the confirmation. That is SUCH an iconic picture!
Much like the D-Day participants, we will begin losing early astronauts at an alarming rate I’m sure.
@chienfou @Kyeh
The image as shown above is rotated (just found this out)
Here is the original, from the NASA archives.
@chienfou @Kyeh
Here is the flickr link. Lots a great NASA pic there.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasacommons/9460163430
Here is a crew pix for Apollo 8. I think this was the famous “Christmas mission”, during which Anders was broadcast live reading from Genesis.
Frank Borman
James A. Lovell, Jr.
William A. Anders
https://www.nasa.gov/mission/apollo-8/#:~:text=The Apollo 8 mission proved the performance of,first to see an Earthrise above its surface.
The NASA Apollo 8 webpage
@f00l Kind of amazing that he was still piloting at 90.
@macromeh
Yeah. I’m pretty impressed by that.
On April 11, 2024, forensic sociological and pioneer Dr Evan Stark died at age 82.
Stark developed and pioneered the concept of “coercive control” as a dominant abuse tactic in intimate partner violence, used by the abuser to create a home atmosphere for the victim that was similar to the treatment on hostages and kidnap victims.
Before the work he and his wife Dr Anne Flitcraft spent their lives on, often domestic victimization was often only judged by the courts in reference to the most extreme acts of physical violence (sometime or often unprovable).
This resulted in the police and courts sometimes punishing the victim or removing the victim’s access to children.
Now most courts try to view situations thru “coercive control”, in which the victim often suffers extremes daily personal and financial control, intimidation, harassment, and monitoring by the prep which us essentially intended to control their lives and make them always “in the wrong” and always needing (and often failing to get) permission and approval for the simplest daily activities.
Violence, intimidation, threats, isolation, physical and financial measures, gaslighting, lies, DARVO, are some of the methods often used by the perp.
Due to the work and advocacy of Drs Stark and Flitcraft among others, all these domestic tactics are now seen as relevant to any criminal, family, or civil case, and many of the tactics are outright illegal in themselves.
Obit
https://web.archive.org/web/20240418050741/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/11/us/evan-stark-dead.html
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/07/evan-stark-obituary
https://thefemcast.com/2024/03/25/remembering-professor-evan-stark-a-pioneer-in-understanding-coercive-control/
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Evan-Stark/author/B001IR1LVG?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
@f00l I’ve shared those links. Thanks, and this man changed the world.
Françoise Hardy, French actress and singer-songwriter
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/style/francoise-hardy-french-fashion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.z00.sDhh.EBfusD-92KU_&smid=url-share
@Kyeh
Merde allors!
Willie Mays passed away today at the age of 93.
@FreePasta RIP, our “Say Hey” kid.
@FreePasta The Say Hey Kid.
@duodec @FreePasta
Another iconic class act lost.
@duodec @FreePasta
They’re playing a game tonight at rickwood field (Birmingham) where he got his start in the negro major leagues. The game is between the San Francisco Giants and the St Louis cardinals. He was set to attend, but obviously that didn’t pan out. I’m sure there will be a lot of sentiment expressed concerning his legacy as well as that of rickwood field.
James Chance, born James Siegfried, aka James Black, aka James Chance again, April 20, 1953-June 18, 2024. Founder of seminal No Wave bands Teenage Jesus and the Jerks and James Chance and the Contortions, later of James White and the Blacks and various reiterations.
/youtube the contortions - contort yourself
/youtube james white and the blacks - off black
RIP to the Sax Maniac
Joe Elmore, long time host of the PBS series “Tennessee Crossroads” and automotive enthusiast shows “Muscle Cars” and “Horsepower TV” passed away after a long illness.
I am an unapologetic car guy. I used to watch all those weekend shows on TNN (later Spike and whatever that network is called now), and outside of occasionally getting tired of all the chevy content (but, well, chevys needed the most help to be worth anything so it was understandable) I absolutely loved the shows; Joe’s two shows were consistently enjoyable and often educational.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/jun/20/actor-donald-sutherland-dies-hunger-games-dont-look-now
@Kyeh
https://x.com/MaurinPicard/status/1803845007389937725
I used to have this picture of him on my desk:![enter image description here](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==)
Taylor Wily
Maholo![:broken_heart:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f494.png)
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https://people.com/hawaii-five-0-actor-taylor-wily-dead-at-56-8667178
@llangley So young!![:worried:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f61f.png)
Aw, Kinky Friedman, 10/31/44-6/27/24.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman
/youtube kinky friedman - they ain’t making jews like jesus anymore
/youtube kinky friedman - wild man from borneo
/youtube kinky friedman - rapid city, south dakota
And, of course, he wrote all those satirical mysteries.
@mossygreen
Saw him with Rolling Thunder Revue in the mid 70’s. Great concert in Fort Collins.
@chienfou SO LUCKY.
@mossygreen
It became known as the Hard Rain concert and was broadcast on NBC.
Amazing line-up and fantastic show
Kazuyuki Takezaki
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/japanese-artist-kazuyuki-takezaki-has-died-at-48-2503946/amp-page
Right at the end of Q2, Martin Mull.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/martin-mull-comic-actor-clue-232747255.html
@ExtraMedium Oh, no!![:pensive:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f614.png)
@ExtraMedium @Kyeh I loved him in Clue. Of course the whole cast of Clue was damn near perfect.
@ExtraMedium @Kyeh EXACTLY WHAT I CAME HERE TO SAY. So, so sad. Seeing Fernwood 2 Night on TVLand (maybe?) around 1991 was a revelation to me.
@ExtraMedium @Kyeh @mossygreen Noooooooo! I always loved his comedy, but he was also a talented musician & painter, which i was surprised to find out was his greatest passion. Quite the Renaissance man. RIP, Gene Parmesan.![:cry:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f622.png)
I love how the “master” of disguise’s Mexican accent is a bad impersonation of Italian!![:laughing:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f606.png)
@ExtraMedium @ircon96 @Kyeh There is a quote of his that I don’t feel like looking up right now to the effect that he’s the only person who went into comedy to support his art.
@ExtraMedium @Kyeh @mossygreen I remember Fernwood Tonight. It’s available on the internet archive if you want to watch a few episodes and raise a glass.
@ExtraMedium @Kyeh @sammydog01 OH. I bought the Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman complete box set when it came out (also the first season set, when it came out) to ENCOURAGE them to do a Fernwood 2 Night release, to no avail. I’ll have to take a look!
@ExtraMedium @ircon96 @Kyeh @sammydog01 I did not watch Soundstage on channel 11. I did not listen to it on WXRT. I had no idea you could put your speakers on either side of the the tv for a stereo simulcast. That must have seemed otherworldly in 1976.
I missed this earlier in the month. Jerry West, Three time BAL Hall of Fame recipient whose entire career was with the Lakers (Minnesota then Los Angeles) passed away on June 12th at the age of 86.
I was a fan of professional sports back then, before the strikes and thuggery became commonplace, and West always seemed to be a class act, as well as an amazing player.
Rest in Peace
obviously BAL up above should be NBA…
Also Parnelli Jones, one of the most well known and dominant race car drivers of the 1960s and following decades, passed away June 4th. I also followed racing back then; not his first win at the Indy 500 in 1963 (I’m not that old). He also won at the Pike’s Peak Hill Climb and Baja 500 and Baja 1000 races.
Orlando Cepeda Hall of Famer, World Series MVP and team mate of Willie Mays in Frisco died today
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hall-of-famer-orlando-cepeda-dies-at-86-days-after-passing-of-teammate-willie-mays/ar-BB1p6VQT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=750e954246c541219554b75d567aec0d&ei=9
@chienfou
I can remember seeing him when he was the first baseman for the StL Cardinals during the World Series season in '67
Just saw this news.
Russell Morash, creator of This Old House and a pioneer of how-to television, has died. His death on June 19th, 2024, was confirmed by former This Old House producer Nina Fialkow.
Morash worked for GBH, better known as WGBH Boston public television station since around 1958. Among other things he was a pioneer of the original ‘reality’ type shows like This Old House, the original Victory Garden, Julia Child’s The French Chef, and the New Yankee Workshop.
We watched these shows when they were new; I remember my Dad trying his hand at making furniture out of pallet wood after seeing Norm Abrams doing that on his show and our small gardens were inspired by those early Victory Garden shows.
Bob Newhart, Comedy Icon, Dies at 94
https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/bob-newhart-dead-comedian-1236077300/
Damn. First Buffett, now this. The ending to the “Newhart” series was brilliant. Loved him as Professor Proton. And all the others…RIP and thanks for all the laughter.
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@llangley @FreePasta
I so loved him as the actor and comedian
didn’t he have a wonderful role in one of the legally blonde movies?
@FreePasta This should be in the Q3 thread.
@yakkoTDI
Couldn’t find it.
@werehatrack - Could you move these posts?
@FreePasta @werehatrack @yakkoTDI You might need to ask @Thumperchick or @ExtraMedium for that … I think you all can repost them there, and then a mod or employee can delete the old ones (I had this happen once.)
Here’s Q3: https://meh.com/forum/topics/rip-2024-q3