Pitney Bowes complaint thread

@jst1ofknd Sounds like “'mediocre” would be quite an improvement for them.

@Kidsandliz
It’s not:

“we have your money and your package, not our problem, fuck you”

It’s:
“We have the shipper’s money. They’re our customer, not you. Go fuck yourself, because we ain’t doing it for free.”

@Kidsandliz @mike808

@bmf @Kidsandliz @mike808 Even then, backgammon was such a confrontational game, the bane of a civilized society.

@RiotDemon Wait until the PastaDerps shipping fail is as bad as trying to enter the ship-to address on the website, for start-to-finish fuckery.

@mike808 I’m not sure why you had so many problems. It worked fine for me.

@mike808 @RiotDemon Did you not read his lengthy complaint? He had to type in the address. ONE LETTER AT A TIME!

@mike808 @sammydog01 no. I don’t think I saw any complaining. No siree.

@RiotDemon

It worked fine for me.

You clearly don’t understand how Engineering and Applied Science works.

@mike808 mkay.

@mike808 @RiotDemon but does understand how a pasta website works.

@mike808 @RiotDemon as I said on the pasta drop website. My pasta is going to be completely dry by the time it reaches me at this rate.

/ Shipping is horrendous recently. I spent my pasta coupons on buys from all their sites… They’re all stuck for last 7 days with no updates.

@thewynner Same Items I ordered the beginning of May are just…sitting. This is so disappointing.

Mayday! @DrWorm did the thing.

@jkrlvgn well… And I don’t mind crappy shipping if it’s the difference between “free for $5 a month” and paying shipping every time.

If it’s really saving them money (which means saving us money too) then I will grin and bare it.

If this is only saving enough to buy the mediocre team a big Mac once a week and not pass savings on to us… I say screw it. Y’all can eat 99¢ hamburgers at your weekly staff lunch instead. Forget about the fries.

That wasn’t serious btw. I don’t really think you should eat 99¢ hamburgers… We value your health…

… Who else will ship is stuff?

@OnionSoup

I will grin and bare it.

Pics or it didn’t happen…

@elimanningface I looked up dhcp servers and still don’t know what they are. CURSE YOU PITNEY BOWES!

@elimanningface @sammydog01
DHCP servers hand out addresses to devices when they join the network (i.e.you turn them on).

That’s a problem because that’s your home wifi router’s job, not some completely random device that prints stamps and who knows how buggy or misconfigured the PB POS stamp printer is that pretends it is your router.

There’s only supposed to be one DHCP server on any network, so that everyone is on the same page to talk to everyone else on the network, especially talking to the router to get to the internet.

@ruouttaurmind I appreciate you. They’re horrible and anyone standing up for them is… Well… I’m just gonna go with uninformed.

@narfcake it’s not the tracking that’s disfunctional. I am 100% confident the package is exactly where they say it is. It’s just been sitting there for more than a week without an update. If you don’t see that as a problem with a shipping service, you’ve got extremely low standards.

you’ve got extremely low standards.

@benjaMEHn You are correct; I do. When I’m buying something cheap, I don’t expect the fastest service, especially when many companies have been operating with fewer staff due to a global pandemic.

@narfcake you work for Pitney Bowes or something? Ever done business with them? Have some knowledge of how they operate? If not, why stand up for them? What does it get you? If you don’t share the opinion of countless individuals that have had to deal with Pitney Bowes and have no skin in the game, why even comment?

@narfcake I’ll agree with that if I’m buying something cheap, like a $14 t-shirt, but meh sells more than just t-shirts. Just the other day there was a $100 vacuum. That is certainly not cheap. A discount, yes, but not cheap.

@benjaMEHn

If you don’t share the opinion of countless individuals that have had to deal with Pitney Bowes and have no skin in the game, why even comment?

So you are saying that if someone does not agree with you (@narfcake for instance), that they shouldn’t post in this OPEN forum? Who made you the forum King?

@Barney @benjaMEHn @narfcake I thought I was the forum king!

@narfcake @Willijs3 Most of the complaints I see about shipping are for five dollar crap and cheap drones. Is it really taking a month for $100 vacuums to arrive?

@sammydog01 It does seem to take a while, but I don’t think it’s that long.

Who made you the forum King?

@Barney @narfcake This is comical. The thread is titled “Pitney Bowes complaint thread” so that those who feel the same way about Pitney Bowes can vent. It’s absolutely an open forum and you have every right to post - my question was WHY would you post in a COMPLAINT thread if you have no complaint? The only reason I can come up with if that you enjoy being argumentative. Would you go to a thread titled “Thread for People from Florida” and comment, “This is so stupid. I’m not from Florida but I want my opinion on Florida to be heard because I think I’m super important. Get over yourselves, Floridians!”

All I’m saying is that there is really no reason to post comments that disagree with a complaint in a thread meant for complaints. Making comments just to denigrate the feelings of others makes you an asshole.

@benjaMEHn Fine, if you don’t want some other views on your subject (you just might learn something), I’ll just leave you to muck around in your slop.

@sammydog01 I usually only buy the cheap stuff, so I can’t speak to the shipping time on high dollar items. I was just pointing out that meh doesn’t only sell cheapo drones and shirts. But my experience with the cheap stuff will make me think twice about making a higher priced purchase.

@benjaMEHn

I said “slow and inefficient”. I don’t believe that was defending or complimenting them in any way – and yet, every order I’ve placed has still gotten here.

FWIW, the postage meter at my old work was a PB. It worked as it was designed to do – so there’s a counter perspective.

@benjaMEHn

Wait, @narfcake, you have a different opinion?

(you just might learn something)

@Barney Seriously? What a smug comment. What could I possibly learn from your opinion about my complaint? Your response is teeming with narcissism.

@benjaMEHn I expect @Barney meant you could learn something from @narfcake. Sometimes that happens when you actually talk to someone with a differing opinion instead of banning them. Although you may prefer an echo chamber of people who agree with you.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Barney @benjaMEHn @narfcake @sammydog01

WRONG!

@Barney @benjaMEHn @Ignorant @narfcake @sammydog01 we don’t want to learn anything here.

@sammydog01 Calling people out for complaining and doing a “facepalm” (or “facepaw”) is quite a rude way to offer a differing opinion, no?

My whole point was basically, “if you don’t have anything nice, don’t say it all.” In this case, if you don’t have a problem with Pitney Bowes, that’s completely fine, but why chime in just to say that others are stupid for being disappointed with their service? And is “all of you with complaints are stupid - it’ll get there eventually” really helpful? Or just something said to start shit?

And please don’t get me started on the echo chamber - just because I don’t comment often doesn’t mean I don’t read various threads. The names that keep popping up in support of one another are the same people that do it in countless other threads.

@Barney @Ignorant @narfcake @RiotDemon @sammydog01 speak of the echo chamber.

@benjaMEHn

Agreed.

@Barney @benjaMEHn @narfcake @RiotDemon @sammydog01

speak of the echo chamber.

Me? I’m not supporting anyone here, I just said one word because I thought it was funny.
In fact I don’t much care for Pitney Bowes either since I’ve had a package sitting in Grapevine TX since the 13th but I’m also not that upset that the junk I ordered isn’t taking up space in my house. I do find it funny that this topic was just started like the shipping partner switch just happened and hasn’t been in place already for a while.

@Barney @benjaMEHn @Ignorant @narfcake @sammydog01

/giphy echo

@Ignorant It’s that reply all. Once @RiotDemon replied to you, you’re in it. Ha.

But honestly, I’d noticed orders were slower recently but I have no idea when they signed the new contract with Pitney Bowes. Do you know the date of the switch?

And to be very clear, I have no problem with Meh. I probably like Meh a little too much. I’m just not happy with their shipping partner. I think Meh should know when their customers aren’t happy and that their Customer Support (which is always great) might be receiving an influx of messages due to their partnership with this company.

@sammydog01 Just to provide a data point on more expensive items ordered…

I placed a MorningSave order for a $55 air fryer on May 5th. Label was created on the 11th, and “inducted into Pitney Bowes Network” on the 15th. That’s the one and only update I’ve received.

By comparison, a set of $39 Morningsave sheets ordered on the 19th somehow went out FedEx on the 22nd and is scheduled to arrive on the 29th, which is pretty routine for these shipments.

And finally, my IRK which also shipped Pitney should be arriving tomorrow. It was inducted on the 13th, and had 5 scans on the 13th, 5 scans on the 15th, and single scans on the 17th, 20th, 21st and 22nd before being handed off to USPS.

I’m not super frustrated at the speed of delivery, I just want to see progress and consistency. My IRK is going to have taken a week and a half to get here, which is fine, because I KNEW it was coming, and received somewhat frequent updates about it. I wish I knew when the air fryer would arrive though…

@benjaMEHn

Do you know the date of the switch?

Sometime around April 2019

@Barney @benjaMEHn @Ignorant @narfcake @RiotDemon @sammydog01

WHY would you post in a COMPLAINT thread if you have no complaint? The only reason I can come up with if that you enjoy being argumentative

Thought about replying. But there’s little likelihood of a social or discursive upside to engaging that.

Making comments just to denigrate the feelings of others makes you an asshole.

Sigh.

Hey everyone!

Pitney Bowles sucks horribly.

Only sometimes, and for some services, they don’t!

It’s really ok to talk about various perspectives and histories regarding this.

Regarding P-B postal machines:
yeah, they can fuck up horribly. But if you have tried some of the competition, you might wind up coming back to P-B.

I agree with the wish that Mercatalyst might find a better, more responsive, less insane, shipping partner.

Is there any reasonable hope that the P-B services will improve?

I never worry about all this, within my own life re Meh. Meh packages arrive when they arrive. If it takes a decade or two, fine.

I don’t purchase time-sensitive stuff here.
I don’t watch the tracking page.
I forget I ordered <whatever>, and then later it shows up.

That said, if I made an expensive purchase here, I would expect some degree of sane and reliable shipping.

@benjaMEHn @Ignorant Pitney Bowes bought Newgistics in 2017. I’m not sure when the tracking changed to call it PB. That feels like a few days ago almost.

And if you meant that I’m the echo chamber, so be it. I’m a mod because I like being here. Most of the time. I have friends here. I’ll usually reply to them.

@f00l

I’ll ignore the top of your post since the whole, “sigh.” thing is just another example of the way the Meh message board frequent fliers like to treat other people. But about the points you made:

Pitney Bowles sucks horribly.

Only sometimes, and for some services, they don’t!

Can you explain the services at which they don’t suck? As I looked through the numerous reviews online, I didn’t find a single thing people were happy with. Maybe it is just that upset people are more willing to write reviews than happy people but I didn’t see a single happy customer.

Is there any reasonable hope that the P-B services will improve?

Is there? Is hoping they improve naive? Shit in one hand, hope in the other?

@RiotDemon While they bought it in 2017, it is only fairly recently that they finally completely merged what newgistics was doing with how they do it to make one integrated system. As a result there likely were/are some changes from even a year ago.

@benjaMEHn

I’ll ignore the top of your post since the whole, “sigh.” thing is just another example of the way the Meh message board frequent fliers like to treat other people.

Nope.
Rather, like some people, when posting, might treat some specific comments.

Re P-B and the question about whether things might improve.

I was asking in the hope of hearing from someone connected to the logistics industry. Or from someone at Meh who deals with them.

As for opinions for the apparently uninformed (which includes me) those opinions are “just our individual opinions”.
(Based on some degree of personal experience and shared experience, but hardly qualifying as “informed”).

It’s fine with me if some people think that P-B is universally horrible and will never improve.

The remark about P-B services in general not sucking some of the time:

Many of my shipments handled by P-B shipped just fine. And so have many other people’s.

If P-B’s services were a universal clusterfuck all the time, there would be constant “shipping probs” and “I hate P-B” topics” ever since the switch that happened. (I think about a year ago?)

Instead, these topics are infrequent. Ergo, some times, the shipping doesn’t suck.
(Or else, people are so otherwise busy or beaten down that they don’t have the energy to complain; but I personally doubt this second possibility.)

Also:
From having heard the opinion of people who work full time in biz, corp, and industrial shipping for decades;
who do not work for P-B and never have;
but sometimes work with them. And who sometimes work with other shipping/logistics companies.

And sometimes these people deeply hate dealing with P-B;
and sometimes they sincerely wish they were dealing with P-B instead of dealing with some other company that’s even worse.

@Kidsandliz @RiotDemon

This is a complex merger. I’m assuming full integration might take a decade or more.

@benjaMEHn @f00l before Covid, the only issues I had with Newgistics is that there wasn’t as many updates as smart post. After, the issue is that it sits at some sorting facility for days before moving again.

PB is not the only shipper I’ve had issues with lately. UPS and FedEx have given me shipping ETAs and then missed them by several days. I currently have a package that was handed off to USPS 2 days ago without being sorted for delivery when it normally gets delivered the same day it arrives at USPS. I had one package that was handed off to the shipper and then it didn’t move for ten days.

I’ve been ordering more stuff than ever so I don’t have to go out into a store unless necessary and they are all hit hard.

I guess I’m just more patient than other people. At work I had people confused and people fucking livid because of stuff being out of stock due to Covid. I just look at them and wonder if they are unaware of how the world works.

@benjaMEHn @f00l @RiotDemon

and wonder if they are unaware of how the world works.

There are plenty of people out there who have no clue about many things, including what I would call really basic things (apparently not really basic) with respect to how things work in this world.

@smigit2002 Ooh, data! I like data! Thank you. I agree that shipping for something over $50 should be better than that. That pretty much sucks.

@Barney @benjaMEHn @narfcake @sammydog01 @mike808 @RiotDemon @f00l The issue I see right now is that the complaint about a shipping company thread was turned into by some but certainly not all of the people posting on this thread, an attack on the individual who started the complaint thread and on one other person. In my opinion that is inappropriate. Arguing about the pros and cons using that shipping company is reasonable. Making derogatory personal attacks on people who don’t like how that company is operating (or for other reasons) is out of line.

@Barney @benjaMEHn @f00l @Kidsandliz @mike808 @narfcake @sammydog01 people can disagree here, there is no rule against that. When you tell people that they aren’t allowed to talk in the thread because the topic says something different and call them assholes for doing so, people are going to get defensive.

@Barney @benjaMEHn @f00l @mike808 @narfcake @RiotDemon @sammydog01 People were going to get defensive due to multiple attacks that took place on this thread, at least one of which would qualify as trolling.

In my opinion the recent spate of personal attacks, some out of the blue, on multiple threads is inappropriate, works to destroy the sense of community that meh tried to develop early on and if our kids did this kind of thing we’d educate them and if it continued discipline them. As adults we all know better. Or at least should know better.

@Kidsandliz

The issue I see right now is that the complaint about a shipping company thread was turned into by some but certainly not all of the people posting on this thread, an attack on the individual who started the complaint thread and on one other person. In my opinion that is inappropriate. Arguing about the pros and cons using that shipping company is reasonable. Making derogatory personal attacks on people who don’t like how that company is operating (or for other reasons) is out of line.

that’s just plain inaccurate

The original poster doesn’t like Pitney Bowes & thinks they suck all the time and has some personal evidence and some evidence from others to support that point of view
so far so good

Because topics on meh are discussion topics, just like normal Internet forums, and therefore these topics are not topics limited to only the point of view of the original poster; other people chimed in with various opinions
So far so good

After which the original poster started, rather childishly and inaccurately, accusing other posters of behaving badly (and didn’t do a good job of it), apparently because these other posters at simply disagreed with the original post

And at this point things went downhill

A discussion of whether shipping through Pitney Bowes is always horrible, or whether it might improve, or whether it has any redeeming features, or whether there are cost-effective reasonable alternatives, would be a worthwhile one

Especially if it stayed intelligent

@f00l @Kidsandliz You’re really never wrong, are you?

The original poster doesn’t like Pitney Bowes & thinks they suck all
the time and has some personal evidence and some evidence from others
to support that point of view so far so good

Because topics on meh are discussion topics, just like normal Internet
forums, and therefore these topics are not topics limited to only the
point of view of the original poster; other people chimed in with
various opinions So far so good

But this is where your response returns to “my clique is never wrong so it must be the original poster that did something wrong” when in fact, one of your little buddies/trolls posted the comment that started this long string on responses. The individual posted a comment that basically called out everyone with a complaint about Pitney Bowes with the “facepalm” gesture showing disbelief that anyone could be so stupid. You can continue to refuse to acknowledge what happened as is typical of this group when they gang up on someone.

You and I (and many others on this site) know your history. You’re the smartest person here and everyone that doesn’t agree with you is dumb - we get it. When was the last time you changed your opinion or acknowledged you were wrong? My guess is you probably can’t think of many instances and that definitely says something about your intelligence.

@benjaMEHn @f00l @Kidsandliz

Get your own meta-topic room, y’all.
Take this over to this topic.

@benjaMEHn

Ok.

@mike808

My apologies. : )

@narfcake I’m fine with really slow shipping. And if they had said that the t item would be delivered by June 15th (for example) I wouldn’t complain. But the original estimated delivery dates were may 26-june 1. It was shipped may 26 and has been sitting in my son’s city in Arkansas and was marked “Picked up and Processed by Agent” whatever the hell that means. It is now June 8th and no movement since 5/29. Are they delivering it by stage coach?? Carrier pigeon?

@ivannabc @narfcake. Traveling the USA!!

One shipment arrived 1 month AFTER its latest arrival date. Another has been sitting for 7 days on “Picked up and processed by agent”!

We allow for some delays in shipping, but this is unacceptable! Even SmartPost was better!

@DrWorm is totally at fault here.

@phendrick I am glad I paid $5 shipping… that’s what I got now after almost 20 days.
“ May 13, 2020
2:49pm ET
MAY
13
2020
Delivered to Pitney Bowes Facility
Bloomington, CA”

@phendrick Generally speaking companies work into the price of the product an amount to cover free shipping or a fixed price shipping. They can’t afford to eat it over and over again. They’d go out of business.

@Kidsandliz @phendrick
That’s one reason I am totally in AWE of the 100# pasta drop shipments!

@chienfou @Kidsandliz @phendrick well, there are also the 10# pasta drops.

@amehzinggrace Or Grapevine

@rtjhnstn Offering additional locals close to noted location can be obtained for an additional fee… however trysty package procurement cannot be guaranteed in said additional locations… standard rates apply…

@GBrunner321
UPS (“Big Brown” skidmark) will sit on a package that wasn’t paid to ship faster, even if the package is next door and you go to pick it up in person.

If the shipper paid for 5-day shipping, it ain’t getting there faster, no matter what. Because the shipper didn’t pay for it, even if UPS already did it.

@GBrunner321 @mike808 idk, I’ve gotten plenty of things from ups earlier than expected

@GBrunner321 I live near a distribution center, so that may have something to do with it, or they may hsve changed their minds about efficiency.

If I shipped stuff and it always got delivered in 2-3 days, why would I pay extra for 3-day delivery when paying less for 5-day delivery got it there in 3 days anyway?
They may have also done away with that tiered pricing of overnight, 2-3 days, and 5-day econo-ship.

@Felton10 maybe you should check out stamps.com and use promo code Penn. That could cut your lease expense significantly.

@djslack Actually a subscription to stamps.com comes with as part of the lease for the meter, but then I’d have to print the postage on my computer. Just easier to slide the letter through the machine or use the postage tape strips for larger envelopes-old habits are hard to break. But thanks for the advice anyway. Love the way I can just download postage to machine over the internet when it runs low.

@djslack @Felton10 I was turned on to pirate ship by folks on here. I don’t mail a lot (although I have been during the pandemic) and I really like it.

@TheSuss They have top men looking into it.
/giphy Top. Men.

@TheSuss

@MrMikenIkes Yes… “back in the old day’s youngin’s”… and in fact we didn’t even have to walk both ways up hill back then either. Although I must admit that the wheel had not yet been invented. Nor fire.
/giphy good old days

@kevinrs It’s not like we’re in a global pandemic or something like that.

@Collin1000 if a package apparently went on the truck and back to the shipping center every Monday through Saturday from may 1 to may 15, making 12 trips, after nearly a week to get to the shipping center, something is wrong. This is the worst case I’ve seen in my immediate family, but there were a bunch of other packages to multiple addresses delayed 3-5 days like this.

If at a big location that’s getting 20-30 UPS packages every day but Sunday, multiple items show out for delivery but don’t show up at the store, and do the same for the next couple of days, something is wrong that breaks the common theory for the first cases being that the truck is just loaded with too much to get delivered in one day. They either are scanning items onto the truck even if they don’t fit on the truck or something similar.

I realize they dropped the on time guarantee back in March, but they really need to prioritize already delayed at the destination center packages to be delivered the next day or the day after.

@Collin1000 @kevinrs if everyone just drank a shot of bleach each night the pandemic would end.

@Collin1000 @kevinrs @OnionSoup And if we all had bleach every night meh would no longer have any customers and then would go out of business.

@Collin1000 @kevinrs @Kidsandliz and it would all be P.Bs fault.

@DrWorm bought your mom that necklace you hated.

@scfd0766 I’ve had orders hang around long enough to pick up an MBA while in College park, Ga.

@melwin Later SmartPost or early? – because the early SmartPost wasn’t smart at all. I recall tales of packages being transferred back and forth between two depots because the Wooter lived right in between the two and each depot treated the other one as the closer one before “last mile”. Packages routinely went on scenic routes too, often detouring another 1,000+ miles before heading towards their actual destination.

@narfcake I started buying from woot in 2004 and I don’t remember anything about the shipping process back then, but starting in 2009 I would track my packages, which would go right past me from Texas to St. Louis, then back to Kansas City, then down to where I live in southwest Missouri. Not far away, but always going in circles. Now the packages are going from PB in Texas to PB in Greenwood, Indiana before going somewhere still yet unknown. So far two packages have made it to Greenwood and got stuck for almost a week now.

@eonfifty they have definitely gone down hill since COVID.

@eonfifty I am pretty sure their tracking isn’t all that accurate. They changed mine retroactively to take out most of the wandering around, round trips… If it is accurate they sure could save a lot of money not sending them on round trips multiple times.

I’m looking forward to tracking my t-shirt through the Pitney Bowes system.

/giphy exciting

No roundtrip trips between Texas and Indiana yet.
/giphy hopeful crossed fingers

The USPS in Indianapolis processed my shirt today. Estimated delivery Monday according to the post office’s tracking.
/giphy on it’s way

Got my shirt today. Thanks Pitney Bowes and USPS
/giphy delivered

@wineplus meh chose newgistics which was bought by PB and only very recently has PB finally integrated the two shipping services into one.

@Kidsandliz Thanks for the clarification. Integrated or not, the concern is PB dragging the Newgistics group down to their level.

@bfields01 btw, when you tag @meh, you are tagging a user that doesn’t work for meh.

@bfields01 @meh @RiotDemon You should tag @barneybot instead as he is the CEO of meh and a verified bot to boot.

@bfields01 @meh @OnionSoup @RiotDemon

I am the supreme ruler of all things meh.

@OnionSoup thanks for the info!

@OnionSoup Maybe that explains this:

@sammydog01 I got something equally convoluted. About 10 notifications in a row from the 18th until today saying it arrived or received (or some variation of that) in College Park, Ga. One of those being 4:29 arrived in GA. Then at 4:39 (10 mins later) it made the 4hr journey and arrived in SC… Then 6 something says it arrived back in Georgia again.

@OnionSoup Stuff is arriving at my house without showing as arriving. Fortunately the USPS daily digest is pretty good about showing packages.

@bmjones7514 I have a package stuck there too, what’s funny is a couple things shipped after that one have also gone through Grapevine without issue and didn’t bing the other one with them.

@OnionSoup If they asked, you got preferential treatment! Mine is still exactly the same as when I made my original complaint… Been sitting at the Pitney Bowes facility since 5:30am EST on May 15th… the Pitney Bowes facility is less than a mile from my house. You take a right and then a little later you take a left and you’re here. Must be a lot of logistical shit to compute and certify and then re-certify before they can move the package, right? I mean, there’s no way it’s just sitting there untouched for 2 weeks, right?! Ha.

@opivp99 My theory is that Pasta Drop was so successful it crippled Pitney Bowes. They sold so much pasta the entire shipping industry has been brought to it’s knees. The country is doomed- buried in pasta that will never make it through the warehouses of the US demesnes.

Every employee of mediocre-mercatalyst-checkout.org (whatever they call themselves today) is now a pasta-billionaire.

/giphy pasta billionaire

@OnionSoup That seems reasonable… or… they suck. Either way.

@rtjhnstn So you can add lying about tracking to the grocery list of complaints.

@rtjhnstn Mine had the same problem (but didn’t say PB Network as they started to do just days later). Tracking claimed my actual zip code post office had it. There were two problems with that. The first one is there is no actual post office with my actual zip code. My zip code is covered by a different zip code post office. The second problem is that it hadn’t been scanned into into that post office. When I showed them the tracking they went and looked and saw no package (this is not a huge post office either). Tracking was then retroactively changed, after delivery to me (while it was listed as in transit to a destination unspecified which was the last tracking shown prior to delivery to me), to show a straight shot and no wandering around making duplicate trips. Yeah right. If they actually tried to figure out where something is I’d suspect they’d never be able to find it.

@Kidsandliz I’ve now learned to check USPS for the actual tracking information.

@rtjhnstn My USPS tracking says my package is still in IN and is on its way to the USPS. The PB tracking says it’s in my town as of yesterday evening which means it should be delivered today. I’ll be curious to see which is correct and how long it takes either of them to update once it finally is delivered.

@OnionSoup I like the time warp near the top as well. It managed to be picked up and processed in SC 2 hours before it left GA.

@mike808 LOL (not)

@mike808 you thought (pick one Trump/Obama) was bad, wait until only one mail in ballot arrives in time for the count of the 2020 election and it’s a write in for

President Justin Bieber.

Finally the country will be unified by universal loathing.

/I know… Not 35 and not born in US… But it’s not like the constitution matters anymore so he would probably get the job

@carl669 It’s too bad I couldn’t think of any other anagrams from that.

Jeremy Irons?

@narfcake gold for Simpsons reference.

@carl669 @narfcake Too bad the name isn’t Pitney Bowes Systems. That, in my mind, would be instantly changed to Pure Bull Shit.

@carl669 @narfcake
for the SNL Sean Connery on Jeopardy! reference.

@lichme liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich!

@carl669 Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarl!!!

@scfd0766 That happened to me too. What happened in one of the cases was that the package was delivered while it was still listed as elsewhere and then they cleaned it up. Maybe this is a good thing and your package will show up shortly? (Yeah I know. Better not define shortly in a traditional way).

This one’s still not arrived. They sent pre shipment info to UPS the 29th, and it’s in transit at Bloomington again the 30th.

I don’t know if that’s worse or the ones that were shipped the same day and only have 3 lines: Shipping info received, Arrived at shipping facility, In Transit, all still in Grapevine. Those 2 are at a week and a half and over 2 weeks since last scan.
They must have a first in last out issue, and UPS seemed to have it too(but only at the local center), but they seem to have fixed it. Actually it seems like PB may leave the package on the truck if the warehouse is full, and the truck goes back across the country and fills back up.

@scilynt try going to the pitney bowes site, and put the tracking number in there, and look at the FDR tracking. Seems to show more scans than looking at meh. Though you could see evidence that your package is bouncing around, and in some cases breaking some speed limits going back and forth across the country

@akarakra They’ll probably ship it to Greenville, IN next where it will sit too. Think isosceles triangle. In my case between me and TX is the short side and it does that too. Then it will go on vacation in various other parts of the country. After that, so the package’s overlords don’t eventually find out, they will delete most of the vacation history. Then after being drop kicked a bunch the package will limp into your neighborhood and eventually show up on your porch. Meanwhile the tracking will have no idea.

@f00l they got notably worse once most of the world went into quarantine and more and more packages needed to be delivered.

@Ignorant

K thx

@OnionSoup pastadrop just worked for me.

@RiotDemon yeah. Back now. Was unresponsive for 10mins or so. Servers must have been having carb overload.

Alas… My Spaghettini is still in Texas.

@OnionSoup @RiotDemon

/youtube all my exes live in Texas

@f00l @RiotDemon I love that song…

All my pastas live in Texas,
And pasta is the food I really long to eat
But all my pastas stuck in Texas…

@f00l @OnionSoup @RiotDemon
Last line would be
So I’m eating refried rice and sugar beets.

@thewynner
there is prolly a contract involved.

@Cerridwyn @thewynner They key will be what happens after the contract ends.

@Kidsandliz @thewynner
/giphy bingo

@thewynner ::eyeroll::

@Ignorant one crony showed up. How many more of the “meh masters of the forum” will try and downplay legitimate complaints? Your forum clique is sad and it’s pretty pathetic you guys utilize this to drown out folks who have actual concerns about the site. This shit has been going on since I hit the internet and BBS back in the late 90’s, so honestly it is pretty pathetic you guys deem this forum as some social achievement.

@thewynner no one is trying to drown out anyone, otherwise this whole topic would’ve just been deleted…and that would be inept.

@thewynner do you honestly think that we don’t talk to the people that run meh?

There is only so much that can be done when there is a pandemic that is slowing down shipping.

@RiotDemon And so many goobers ordering drones. (Mine should be here soon!)

@RiotDemon @thewynner All shippers have been affected by the pandemic. However, some adapt better than others. PB’s doesn’t appear to have adapted at all.
Having dealt with PB’s in a previous workplace, I’m not surprised. Pandemic or not, they have seemingly always been a poor operation.

@aardWolf oldest one 3 weeks? Your wait is now 50% over then.

There have been a few things I almost bought but then asked myself “will I still want this two months from now” and because the answer was no, I didn’t buy.

@dave honestly , it’s not just the wait as much as it is how mangled up the last several items I ordered have been when they arrived. I fear for my brittle Spaghettini. By the time it arrives how much of if will be smashed to smitherines by the PB brutes? PB isn’t exactly careful with the boxes, the slowness isn’t out of carefulness.

Fortunately it’s been mainly the packaging so far and contents inside have miraculously survived, but whenever I see a smashed up meh box on my doorstep I panic at first that my beloved cheap junk inside is ruined.

@dave @OnionSoup

how much of if will be smashed to smitherines by the PB brutes?

Could you use the shattered pasta pieces in

/image onion soup?

Aside: for whatever reason, French onion soup was not a part of my upbringing cuisine.
This is a notable and painful lack.

But I still remember the first time (incl when and where) I tasted proper onion soup:
At the now sadly vanished 24-hour Brasserie in the Seagram Building in Manhattan.
The Brasserie was never a foodie paradise. But it was a fine place to be, once upon a time, at 4am in Manhattan.

Been a fan of onion soup ever since.

@dave @OnionSoup the packages I’ve gotten have been fine. They just took a nap at their FDR facilities. Honestly I wonder if they are just sitting in a trailer waiting to be unloaded.

@dave @OnionSoup @RiotDemon My Spaghettini was delivered undamaged – lots of bubble wrap to protect it. But then I saw @Raider’s… It was pretty awful.

@f00l I think I had mentioned this here once upon a time, but I too have a fond memory of long lost onion soup in Manhattan. There used to be a full service restaurant in the bottom level of the Macy’s at Herald Square. I had French Onion Soup there that was far and away the best I had ever tasted. For years I chased that dragon, trying to find something closer to home that compared, with no success. Flash forward years later and we returned to New York for a weekend. Looking forward to another bowl of that delicious elixir, we headed to Macy’s. Down we go in the elevator, the excitement growing along with the rumbles in my tummy. The doors open and what do we see? A fucking cafeteria. They closed the restaurant and opened a damn cafeteria. The dragon died…

@cinoclav

Yeah that’s sad.

Re the fate of the Brasserie:

The Seagram building in Manhattan contained 2 eateries: the best known was the famous The Four Seasons restaurant, for foodies, the rich, celebs, and power-lunch-types.

And in the same building was the wonderful Brasserie, open 24 hours once upon a time, v nice food, priced for “we the masses of the financial proletariat”.

Interiors of both restaurants were famously relaxing,/stimulating (simultaneously), and v handsome; both designed by building architect Philip Johnson.

The Seagram building has changed hands a few times over the years. And finally the current owners decided they wanted something new a few years back. They chose not to renew the restaurant leases.

So both of the the original (and both famous) restaurants closed.

There is a new restaurant in the building, which is a sort of pale imitation of The Four Seasons.

I kinda hope that the new places loses money, and that the building owners have to subsidize it. I know that just about no one talks about the new spot as a place one would especially want to go.

/image the four seasons Seagram building

/image Brasserie Seagram building

@ELUNO yup Pitney Bowes are pasta thieves they stole my pasta too!

The tracking number does seem to work with USPS too though… It just won’t show you anything before the last few days before delivery… The first month or so of shipping you have to look at Pitney Bowes website for info.

Oddly there seems to be two different website for Pitney Bowes tracking. You want the one that asks for tracking number not package number. I don’t recall the URL, I just know I originally went to the wrong one

@ELUNO @OnionSoup https://pitneybowes.shipment.co/track/YOURTRACKINGNUMBER

@aardWolf @OnionSoup Thank you good sirs.

@aardWolf @OnionSoup So it did in fact have a 10 day delay of it sitting at their warehouse. Good (or neutral I shall say) news is that this does provide the weight and I am getting the standard rate of $1 per pound.

@aardWolf @ELUNO @OnionSoup while I find I’m, along with others getting the ripoff rate of $2 per pound

@OnionSoup Are you gonna post about how it moves through your system? You know…inducted into OnionSoup…stopped at stomach for three days …returned to esophagus…entering lower bowel…returned to stomach…exited system with slight damage…

@admiralpoopants Mine has been in NJ since 5/17. Wonder at what point it gets considered lost and should reach out to CS…

@admiralpoopants @Raider I’ve had them sit in a warehouse for two weeks and then all of a sudden it zipped along to my house passing through other warehouses quickest.

I don’t think they do “first in first out”, I think they move boxes into a warehouse until truck arrives and then load what can fit on, regardless of how long the package has sat there for.

So if your package arrives when stock is empty for packages destined to a delivery site it gets put on the bottom and never sent until they move all the boxes from on top of it first.

I think they literally pile boxes in mountains on top of each other which is why so many get delivered so mutilated.

@admiralpoopants @OnionSoup @Raider
hmmm wonder what we get
/image box mountain

/giphy box mountain

@OnionSoup Amazingly that happened to this! Last night suddenly it moved. Now I don’t know what scan to believe after. First showed it arrived in town it will be delivered in, a bit later it showed it was back on the other side of the Hudson (but different area of NJ)…

Since speaking worked last time I wonder if the package “Picked up and Processed by Agent” in my town on 5/28 will ever take the final step and make it to my door.

@Cerridwyn Screenshot instead. I’ve never had that problem when doing that.

@pepepornstar Well, that looks more like buying stuff on ebay/amazon that has ~30 day free shipping, where the cost to return it would be many times the total cost of the order.

@Kidsandliz since I’m up to 19+ days on items that haven’t made it to USPS yet, and some haven’t left texas, I thing the + is a big part of it.

@membrr Yeah, but which time was it picked up in Texas? 3rd or 7th?

OK, I sent a message to customer service about the worst one: that hasn’t been scanned in 17 days. There is a message saying they will respond in 7 business days. If it takes that long for them to get to the message, if it hasn’t updated it’s going to be nearly a month without a scan, it will be time for them to figure something out anyway.

@kevinrs Sorry. They also use Pitney Bowes to host their email servers. They answer right away, but it takes them that long to get your message.

@lichme Honestly I probably would have given it a little more time if it wasn’t going to take 7 days for a response. Once websites are taking more than 30 days to get customers their products, if customers just take it, they lose options in case they never get their products like disputing charges.

7 business days is what customer service replies are supposed to take, so 9 real days. It’s been 5 since I asked customer service, and there’s been no activity on the tracking for my orders in that time. Answer is due by Wednesday, these orders show estimated delivery May 26-28, so running 12 business days late even if they arrive at post office today and get delivered Monday, by Wednesday will be 14 business days late

@mcc36 Pitney Bowes is the one that uploads the tracking, not meh.

@mcc36 I think the weirdness on the tracking is coming purely from the shipping company: Pitney Bowes. I do have to say that in the past I’ve occasionally seen weirdness from UPS. Nothing on this scale, and not lines and lines of packages apparently going back and forth across the country and locally like this, but occasional apparent packages returning to a previous location and occasional movement within minutes.
One place I can see where money might be saved whatever shipper is used is consolidating shipments when possible. Even on normal days, often an order doesn’t ship for a couple of days, and if you order something else, both orders may go out the same day or out of order. On a mehrathon day, some people may have tens of orders each shipping separately.

@mcc36
I think the tracking may be accurate.

I’m guessing mail from meh.com is of the lowest priority because it’s so inexpensive.

Packages from meh are usually, in my experience, too small to just throw in the back of a trailer, so I’m guessing they’re probably put into crates which are then put into the trailer.

I’m also guessing meh packages don’t get their own crates, so they’re probably crammed in there with packages from other businesses.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these low priority crates are loaded at the front end of the trailer and just ride along while higher priority packages are driven between Texas and Indiana just because it’s easier and quicker to not unload the entire trailer.

I think this method would allow the shipping company to meet all it’s contractual obligations with low priority shippers while at the same time getting in on that same-day and next-day pandemic shipping market.

/giphy might be accurate

@eonfifty @mcc36 Some of the tracking weirdness comes from PB using container tracking numbers. Individual packages are linked to the container number and when those numbers are scanned all the individual packages are updated. If the container barcode doesn’t get removed when it is emptied or it gets the wrong scan all the packages get incorrect updates. Other issues are the automatic computer updates. I think the computer is programmed to generate an update if there is not a scan after a certain amount of time. It assumes the scan was missed and fills it in. Since everything is delayed it is adding incorrect information to packages that are sitting waiting to be sorted. PB is doing worse than usual recently.

One package coming to me recently was “delivered” to my local post office Friday according to PB. I work there so I knew that was not correct. It did show up the following Tuesday for delivery Wednesday. I don’t know if PB is trying to shift the delay to USPS or just a fluke but definitely some issues in scanning. I know I am getting many more inquiries about delayed packages from all companies not just Meh.

TLDR: PB tracking lies.

@mcc36 @speediedelivery
I’ve been hearing commercials saying the postal service might end residential delivery because of the pandemic. Is that accurate?
/giphy every body lies

@eonfifty I have read that USPS will run out of money in June or September. There is a new postmaster general starting this month. There are laws about delivery that would need changed. I have zero official knowledge. I am way too low to hear anything but I don’t see too much happening soon. Mail volume is way down but packages are high. The other big issue this year is voting. Yes, pandemic but also essential so it is hard for me to imagine stopping delivery. Most places could not handle the volume if home delivery stopped. Changes need made to fix some of the problems so it will be an interesting process.

@speediedelivery I had the delivered to my zip code post office - umm problem in that my zip code doesn’t have its own post office. Then delivered to the actual post office my mail goes to - umm problem again as it wasn’t scanned in there (we were having to pick up our mail there as the post woman decided not to deliver to our apt building for a while. Who knows what was up with that). Then in transit to some unknown location. Then delivered about 5 or 6 days later maybe? Then the tracking suddenly was really different than it had been the entire time. Duplicate round trips removed, etc.

@eonfifty @speediedelivery Pitney Bowes is the reason why we shouldn’t let USPS go bankrupt.

Can you imagine if the USPS was run as badly as “P.Bowla”?

@OnionSoup @speediedelivery
IDK. So far, my meh shirt has been decent according to the tracking info. The post office got it yesterday, and shipped it off in my direction today. If there are no hiccups, I’m looking at two to three weeks shipping. Considering the pandemic, I don’t think that’s too bad, but it is much slower than most every order I’ve made in the past (usually less than a week ).
I live in a metropolitan area, so that probably has a lot to do with fast shipping. I’d imagine people with the long waits and crazily routed shipments are in rural or less densely populated areas.
But I do like the post office and hope it doesn’t go out of business.
/image Mr zip 3

@eonfifty @OnionSoup @speediedelivery I live in the state capital… my irks have taken all sorts of bizarre and repetitive routes all while taking ages. Mine is currently parked in Greenwood. Probably that town is that name because everything sits there so long that it turns green with mold thank you PB.

@benjaMEHn I ordered three things from China within the last month.

One was cancelled because they can’t ship.

The other two changed their delivery date to August-September.

@RiotDemon You’re telling me they’ve got Pitney Bowes over there now, too?!

@benjaMEHn @RiotDemon knowing China they probably claim they created Pitney Bowes 1000 years ago and so now lay territorial claim to all land serviced by Pitney Bowes.

@benjaMEHn I had one that PB showed at the local post office on Friday. I work there, it did not actually arrive until the following Tuesday afternoon for delivery Wednesday.

Some of the “scans” are automated by the computer because that is what should be happening instead of the package actually being scanned.

@scilynt I got an empty fuko once maybe 2 or so years ago. USPS had put a “received damaged” sticker on it and taped it shut. Otherwise no tape, no contents, no nothing. Considering the box was open and empty I was surprised it wasn’t smashed as hell.

@kevinrs
Yes. I’ve been seeing regular updates on the status of my mehrathon t-shirt. It took 27 days to arrive. I didn’t get a delivery confirmation email from meh until the next day though - that’s unusual.

According to the tracking, my shirt spent 18 days waiting to be picked up, and it spent 6 days chilling in Indianapolis. My shirt spent about 3 days in actual transit.

Interesting note: the tracking info shows the post office operating 24 hours a day with early a.m. timestamps, but all the Pitney Bowes updates are from between 6 a.m and 6 p.m. I wonder if the pandemic made Pitney Bowes eliminate a third shift.

/giphy chillin’ in Indy

@eonfifty We don’t know what the real numbers are on how many orders are being significantly delayed, or how much they are being delayed, Just going by the ~50% of my orders being delayed multiple weeks, and apparently customer support answers are taking over a week, I think meh has a problem, that if they don’t solve, they are going to have real damage to their reputation. They may soon be known for the delays more than anything else. I think they may need to dump pitney bowes, even if it means charging more for shipping or raising prices some.

@Noddy93 I wish I knew what happened to my mediocre socks. My mediocre socks were the best.

@OnionSoup I have a brand new pair you can have for postage.

@bruceb28 They won’t return it. USPS will just put it in their “undeliverable” stack.

@Cerridwyn at least yours appears to be moving, mine’s 11 days in transit at grapevine

@kevinrs
that was the second one
the first one has been sitting … oh, 20 miles away for over a week now, if the scan is to be believed.

hey @snapster - can I walk over there and pick it up

/giphy snicker

@Cerridwyn @kevinrs pastadrop one is sitting in waco for two weeks… pastadrop two was delivered to waco 9 days ago. (different addresses). waco is 113 miles from the warehouse. received meh and morningsave orders placed after pastadrop #1.

i understand covid causing delays. i don’t understand covid completely screwing how you do your business.

and yet, since i’m a kickstarter and buying from this company since day zero i clicked buy again this morning. perhaps for the last time if this crap with PB isn’t straightened out.

@kevinrs @Noddy93
I am right with you. Oddly, the one above, was signed in twice to the same city, but how the city is displayed appears different

Departed Pitney Bowes Facility
Commerce, CA
*** went to Nevada

Picked Up
CTY OF CMMRCE, CA
*** went back to Nevada

these were not on the same day

@thumperchick @dave @ any one with a flask @snapster.
What can we all do to make this work , i.e., without PB
/giphy PB

@kevinrs, that’s exactly where I am too. It’s 100% unacceptable. The failure to address it speaks volumes. I’d NEVER put the happiness of my customers in the hands of a business like Pitney Bowes.

@kevinrs @MrFred
dave said

"Just want to be clear we understand the problem: massive increases in shipping are causing delays from our carrier, all over, but especially in the west, as mentioned above. We’re working on any solutions we can - both with them and on our own.

Unfortunately I don’t have an immediate answer, but I wanted to make sure it’s clear we know this is a problem and it’s something we’re paying close attention to and working on."

You just can’t snap your fingers have have everything turn out perfect overnight. It does take time, but they are working on it.

@Barney, that’s good enough for me. As long as they too find it unacceptable and are working on a solution, that’s all I can ask.

@MrFred I’m was hanging out on the Mediocre forum (under a different ID), almost a year before Meh even started. Yes, it’s a pretty big mess right now and I’m not sure how they are going to get things straightened out, but I trust @dave when he says they are working on it.

@Barney @dave I go back to Woot and I’ve been here a while, I just don’t say anything very often. I can be patient as long as I know they find the situation unacceptable.

Well, the worst one, that hadn’t updated since May 21, as of today shows in transit Bloomington, CA. Took 2 days short of 4 weeks to make that step from in transit Grapevine to in transit Bloomington.
So it’s going to go one of a couple of ways, either within a couple of days it actually gets to the post office, or it goes back to Texas, or it just appears to sit at Bloomington for a week or more.
I mean I’ve got another one that shows in transit Bloomington since May 30. I’ve also got one shipped the same day as the one that updated today, that’s been Grapevine since the 26th.
If it’s really just overload, too many packages in their system to keep up with, maybe Pitney Bowes should have started limiting how many packages they would take in, so some part of the people shipping stuff would go with another carrier.

@kevinrs I’m going with sitting in Bloomington. Here is the latest update from one of my packages sitting there.

May 30, 2020
12:55pm ET
MAY
30
2020
Arrived at Pitney Bowes Facility
Bloomington, CA

@Ignorant One of my packages first was arrived at Bloomington back on the 24th, then again the 25th, then in transit grapevine 26th, then in transit commerce, CA 27th, preshipment sent to USPS the 29th, in transit Bloomington the 7th, and finally got to USPS yesterday for delivery sometime today.

This will be the first package from the mehrathon delivered since the 3rd. That one day I got 5 of my 9 orders, the rest have been sitting in transit somewhere all this time.
Still one at grapevine since 26th
One appears to have arrived at USPS Studio City by mistake today, after being at Bloomington since the 30th
The last is the one I’ve mentioned before that was grapevine from the 21st, and finally got to bloomington yesterday

I did order a pastadrop, but it is also only showing grapevine since the 1st.

@nalesean
I hear ya
Only place safe to order is casemates. Case it’s a different contract. Thank the lord and lady

Maybe someone in the know ( @snapster ) can come speak of this issue. But not gonna

/giphy hold my breath

@tinamarie1974 Yep I got the same message about my linguine. It looks like my ziti is going to get here first.

@tinamarie1974 I’ve had some amusing PB tracking logs. Where is arrives in and then is received at days apart… Then it arrives in the same city a week later and bounces between those two statuses… Then it magically jumps across the country and back in the space of thirty minutes.

I don’t think you can really take too much meaning from what their tracking log says.

@OnionSoup you are right and I have seen the same but it is so frustrating.

I don’t understand how a company can get away with complete disregard for data integrity. Can you imagine if they ever had to certify chain of command on any of their shipments? Or of they were audited for SOX compliance? How does a company survive operating in this manner?

@Raider That is not a good track record. Contact support.

@Kidsandliz I have, I’m sure they’re sick of hearing from me by now. At some point it would be nice to get what I actually ordered instead of a refund. Honestly difficult to consider ordering anything from here right now with this type of delivery “success”.

@kcface I’m not sure how much they can do… It would be nice to hear a statement from them though.

Honestly if the choice is $5 crappy Pitney Bowes shipping OR $10 better than crappy shipping… I’d rather stick with crappy PB.

Yes, it’s annoying and yes, I do buy fewer items because I take into account “will I still want this item, and am I willing to wait potentially a month to two months from now?” before making a purchase…

… But I’d buy even less if shipping went up.

@kcface @OnionSoup What’s more frustrating is to wait an extended period for an item you do want, and after the long wait it arrives destroyed or missing. I could put the $5 from VMP towards the price increase at other sites and get it in a few days and in perfect order. I never minded the 7-10 days but 5 weeks for destroyed/missing, wait up to 2 weeks for CS reply, wait for refund and then still end up purchasing the item elsewhere 2 months down the road from original order date for more money because its something you wanted and didn’t get…it’s a recipe for business disaster.

@kcface My lanterns and waterpic arrived on the same pony!

@loudersoft support must be really bogged down. I emailed 11 days ago and have heard nothing.

@loudersoft you are upset about less than a week from label creation? My package has shown as in my town (after several days shipping) for over 2 weeks!

@chellemonkey I’m upset about all of it because I paid for the shipping, so they need to get it together and quit lying about when they ship something.

@loudersoft since you have tracking info they haven’t “lied” about shipping it. Shipping through Pitney Bowes sucks, meh doesn’t control them. Honestly label creation on the fifth until now is the way it has always been, they aren’t Amazon.

@chellemonkey firstly, i’ve been shopping these sites since they moved from woot and i was with woot since SA. i know how it works so don’t lecture me.

secondly, you’re not getting it – providing me with tracking that says one thing one place and a different thing at another screams misleading and false to me, but maybe when people mislead you, you still trust them. that’s cool.

on their site, it said that it had been shipped. on the USPS site, when I track it, it said “awaiting package”. so which is it? is the lie with USPS or with pitney bowes? i track packages from USPS for delivery all the time, none of them have ever had differing information the way this one does. it’s like someone telling me the sky is green and someone else saying it’s blue.

keep Stanning for pitney bowes, though, it’s amusing. just give me my f’ing money back or get my thing that i paid for here already.

@loudersoft I was only saying MEH didn’t lie. Pitney Bowes is terrible I agree. They can’t seem to figure out where their stuff is.

@chellemonkey @loudersoft It doesn’t start with USPS so they won’t list as having it until the dead turtle PB uses to ship actually drop it off at the Post Office. Prior to that it is wherever PB hauls it (or not). In fact PB’s tracking information seems to change frequently. USPS’s portion of the trip it is far more reliable - ALTHOUGH PB may say delivered to USPS when, in fact, they have not.

@loudersoft @chellemonkey @Kidsandliz Well, it’s out for delivery so there you go – right on time?

@DJ Oh - you didn’t buy them for christmas? Your bad (not). shipping.

@Kidsandliz uh, they’re here. Got here in one day… I’m shook.

@Kidsandliz Mine says the exact same thing.

@dvshrt Here is my update today. Cute. Huh?

@dvshrt @Kidsandliz Same thing here

@Kidsandliz having same issue here

@LitreofFarva @dvshrt Well depending on WHICH PB tracking page you look at I am told no package with that tracking number, arrived at PB facility Greenwood, IN June18th, the June 6 above has vanished, or in transit to location unknown, and on one page it says all dates are invalid (now that final one is probably true LOL - not!). What I know for sure the claim on one of those tracking pages that it will be delivered today June 20th is not true as USPS mail has already come and USPS doesn’t have it yet. In the past I was told it would be delivered to me (I think is was these two dates) June 16th and June 17th.
/image crap shoot

@dvshrt @Kidsandliz yeah mine showed being in my town then back to greenwood, then to obetz Ohio, and now supposedly back in my town in Ohio for last 2 days. It’s ridiculous. Does anyone know why Meh went with this horrible company?

@lichme Maybe change it to something like this:

How will my order ship?

You’ve gotta ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?”

“Well, do ya, punk?”

@lichme If memory serves nothing has ever fully shipped USPS, they have always used a smartpost type setup. Not sure how that could ever have been considered accurate!

@lichme @Raider The old FAQ was a lot more accurate. And fun.

Shipping’s always $5. So yeah, we’re going to ship it the slowest and cheapest way we can possibly find. Usually that’s Smartpost or Surepost, which starts with FedEx or UPS and ends with the post office. It’ll probably be 2 weeks before you get it. And no you can’t get it any faster.

Seems the FAQ got changed to something much more generic recently. Pity, I liked how @dave’s old FAQ had the Meh tone to it.

@Raider Congrats! But don’t expect anything good to ever happen to you again.

@Barney I have a feeling this is a sign of the apocalypse! If it suddenly gets very cold tonight I know what froze over!