"Just stay up! It's only midnight!" No, YOU shut the fuck up.
8I swear to god, it's like everyone bitching about the bitchers never learned about time zones.
The issue isn't that we don't want to stay up until midnight. The issue is that people on the east coast have to stay up until midnight or miss out because people on the west coast are buying at
NINE FUCKING PM
This isn't whiny entitlement. It's frustration that living in California means checking meh before bed or before heading out to a concert or before watching their favorite prime-time television, yet we on the east coast are just expected to stay up. Why do you think items are selling out completely and mostly in California?
If you can't see the very valid issue in that, please. Shut up.
As for me. 9PM ET would mean 6PM Cali time, which is reasonable for everyone. Or if time zones truly don't matter, why not 8AM ET, and see how many east coasters will "Just get up early! It's only 5AM!"?
All in all, "stop complaining, that's just how it's done" is one of my least favorite phrases in the world.
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I said: "You're pulling my leg!"
@Outofmymind Why did the chicken cross the road?
@HELLOALICE Why would a chicken NOT cross the road?
@Outofmymind Man, I had such a good setup and you break my heart :(
@HELLOALICE It was a fowl joke anyhow.
@HELLOALICE Um, why did the chicken cross the road? To lay it on the line?
@HELLOALICE Because the other side of the road was an earlier time zone?
Orange you glad I didn't say banana?
@hallmike I want to live in a time zone where simple barnyard fowl can cross the damned road without constantly having their motives questioned.
@HELLOALICE None of your damn business... am I being detained?
Incidentally, I love this site. The humor, the products, the concept. I do feel that the time zone advantage is a legitimate complaint, and I'm disappointed at the "suck it up" response we're expected to have.
@HELLOALICE Unfortunately, if you make a suggestion here on the forums that goes against the current time, you will be labeled a whiner, complainer, and called every name in the book. I tried to start a thread with an open conversation and I got blasted. It's not worth it.
@derek17j The reason folks are being lambasted is that all these "change the start time suggestions" are on the basis that the site should revolve on that particular individual's schedule, NOT on the much more universally accepted calendar of when the date changes. Since meh only ships to the lower 48, the eastern time zone is the best acceptable practice in that is when the day changes over -- at midnight.
@narfcake meh could make it change at midnight PST, and then EVERYONE can be unhappy :)
BRILLIANT!!, @kadagan
Meh is a business who chose their time of opening for the day. Obviously, enough people can manage to get here on time for them to sell to every state just about every day. Also, the county in CA that is the darkest is a shipping forwarder for out of country sales if I remember correctly.
@PurplePawprints It is and is where a lot of things I suspect go to other places. To be fair , Meh went back a hour on this business compared to their previous company Woot. Another hour would have probably been fairest to all, but then the deal would only be valid for 1 hour before going into the next day. Personally even if I go to bed early, I have a alarm wake me up at 10:55 Central every night, used to be 11:55 back when.
@Outofmymind Inconceivable. I can't go back to sleep when I get up to answer a call of nature (mine or a pet's). Getting up and getting on the computer would be the end of any hope of sleep for me. Fortunately, I am west of Meh in the mountain time zone, so I could check in the evening before bed. But while I am often sad I missed somethig, like today's offering, I am long since over "appointment internet". I do wish I'd thought of it last night, as I was online at about the right time.
So move.
A large portion of California sales are going to Korea...and it's only 2PM in Korea, oh man it's soooo unfair.
Everybody's got nice stuff but me.
Should meh go back to woots change over time of 1AM Eastern?
@Ignorant NO. However.... Carl messed up and really upset his wife a day before her birthday. She said," Carl, I want something that will go from 0 - 160 REALLY FAST when I step on it,tomorrow or else its over!" The next day there was a huge box in the driveway. When Carl's wife lifted up the box there was only a bathroom scale underneath. Carl has been missing for weeks
@Outofmymind poor Carl.
@HELLOALICE You should consider yourself lucky that @snapster chose 11pm Central Time for the new product changeover. He could have chosen 12pm, like he did for Woot. Instead, he gave you an extra hour of nightie-night time. (Well crap, Ignorant beat me to this. But I guess it won't hurt if it's repeated.)
@barnabee 12a.m.
@jqubed Yeah, I noticed that after it was too late to correct it. But you know what? It wasn't my first mistake and I guarantee it won't be my last.
@barnabee Yeah, as an east-coaster I am very happy with the midnight EST updates as compared with woot's 1 AM ones.
People complaining about the complaint complainers are the worst. :) I don't know about you, but I'm often busy with stuff at 9pm. 11pm central is perfect as that's about when I get settled in. In that regard, west coast folks are at a disadvantage. Also, the sales map shows east coasters buy plenty of the items that sell out.
@medz Actually, there are also a lot of package forwarding companies on the east coast which is why you often see so many sales. I have to say, living on the east coast does make it suck for me to stay up til midnight every day as I get up for work around 5:20 am. I'd absolutely love to see it hit the turnover at 11 pm, alas I doubt anything will change just because of a bunch of whiny bastards.
@Cinoclav ah... Probably a lot on the west coast too. There are probably no real people buying stuff on either coast huh? It's all just freight forwarders.
@medz
@Cinoclav Seriously though, you can zoom in on each state to see what counties had sales. If it was just a few freight forwarders, It wouldn't be as spread out.
@medz I have never considered myself a real person. Real people don't live in Michigan. Did you know that Michigan was on the East Coast?
@medz Yes, I know you can, which is why I said you 'often can' see that happening.
@hamjudo michigan... Ain't that a tire company or something?
@medz Lot of fat people around here. Might be a tire company...
Don't trust me though. I've made 31 purchases from Meh, and I live in the eastern time zone, so I clearly do not exist.
@HELLOALICE
see what I did there?
@unixrab A man is walking along the beach and he trips on a magic lamp, he polishes it off and a genie comes out. "I will grant you one wish" says the genie. The man thinks for a while and he says, "You know, I've always wanted to go to Hawaii, but I've been too scared to fly on a plane, and boats always make me seasick, so I want you to make a bridge to Hawaii." The genie replies, "Are You Crazy!?!? That would be almost impossible, do you know how deep the ocean is, that would be such a long drive, and the techtonic plates! No. It just isn't structurally possible. Make another wish" The guys thinks again and then he says, "I've had plenty of relationships but I could never make them last more than a few months, I just don't understand women. I wish I could understand women." Then genie looks pensive for a while and finally says, "Do you want that bridge to have two lanes or four?"
@Outofmymind
@unixrab A man walks into his psychiatrist's office completely naked, wrapped in saran wrap. The psychiatrist says, "well.... i can clearly see your nuts."
@Outofmymind
@Outofmymind
It's called statistics. Since California is the most populace state, the changes are that most of the purchases will be coming from California. Guess what state has the lowest population and guess which one hardly has any sales?
@cengland0 Alaska? Wyoming? North Dakota? I give up, can you please make it multiple choice.
I was going to guess "state of confusion" but that one is pretty populated.
Crap, I just re-read my message and noticed I typed changes instead of chances. Anyway, @Outofmymind, the least populace state is Wyoming. Keep an eye on the map and notice there are no sales many times including those days that they sell out like this one: https://meh.com/deals/toccs-manhattan-bluetooth-headphones
@cengland0 Holy shit, I just threw some random states out there. 1 out of 3 out of 50 was right. Off to buy a losing lottery ticket.
@cengland0 You also typed 'populace' instead of 'populous.' Twice! Y'know, just in case you're keeping tabs… ;)
@brhfl Uh, I typed populace purposely. Did I use it incorrectly? I ask because the dictionary seems to show my word fits the definition I was looking for better than your word.
@cengland0 "Populace" is a noun. "Populous" is an adjective. You should have used "populous".
@SSteve Ah thank you for that education. There's a lot of those weird words like when to use stationary versus stationery. I hate English but it's what we use and I'm stuck with it.
@cengland0 James Nicoll said "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
@moondrake I've got that t-shirt!
@cengland0 @SSteve nailed it, a bigger populace is more populous… Anyway sorry to be that guy, it was just a little too perfect for my broken, staying-up-for-meh brain.
Don't worry. I'm working on a program that will automatically allow you to buy the item every day. Then, if you wake up and decide that you didn't want it, you can email support and cancel your order. If you do like it, then ha! You bought it without having to be awake like all of the other suckers on the site.
Note: All of the above is a lie.
@lichme Have you though of applying for one of their tech jobs? You might have a good shot at it. https://meh.com/forum/topics/mediocre-laboratories-tech-job-bounty-1000
@lichme Actually, a program that buys every item, and then offers it at 50% more as a Second Chance sale might get some buyers.
@cengland0 I'm really comfortable at my current job. I'm also affiliated with woot, and I'm not sure if there is some kind of rule against working for company A while being affiliated with company B. I already had this debate while thinking about working for woot.
@lichme The buy everything bot would work great until Meh pulls a stunt like Woot did once, put up a BOC for $1000. My husband bought without noticing the price and it really fucked up our bank account thanks to PayPal.
@lichme Do you really work for Woot or just an affiliate where you get a small commission when someone clicks on one of your links and they buy the product? If it's just the affiliate, I don't see any reason why you couldn't still work for a competitor. There are sites dedicated to commission junction to supplement their income. Even deals woot does that.
@cengland0 lich is all over the place at woot. Really.
@lichme Dpoing that for everything priced under $5 or $10 would be awesome.
I said I was lying, you didn't have to implement an anti robot captcha
I think that all the Kickstarter people should get an email announcement of up coming deals. All these late-to-the-party people will just have to suck it up.
I'm old. I wake up from snoozing on the sofa at 8:59, every night. Since I missed the ten buck deep fryer. Then I fall back asleep until it's time to get up and go to bed.
i just bought 30 things from the comfort if my bed.
@Headly Now you can sleep tite lil nipper.
"Why do you think items are selling out completely and mostly in California?"
Because California is significantly larger than any other state in terms of population. If your logic was true, Nevada and Arizona and Utah and Oregon and Washington would also have massive sales, and they do not.
Ironically, there are more dark east coast states than west coast states tonight.
@Collin1000
I only buy things to spite the east-coasters. I don't even use them, I put them on ebay or throw them in the trash. TAKE THAT NEW ENGLAND!
You know what would fix all of this and make everyone happy? We do like China and put the entire country on one time zone. Carrollton's, of course. Then everyone has to check at midnight and no one can complain, complain about people complaining, or complain about the people who complain about the complainers!
@SSteve i don't like this idea. who do i complain to?
@neuromancer Oh, you want to complain? This is being-hit-on-the-head lessons. Complaints are next door.
In addition to everything else, deal changes at 9 PM EST would make it feel like there are two deals a day, which is heresy.
I don't know why this bothers me so much but it does. (I wonder if this bothers Irk too.)
The world doesn't revolve around you. If you want to get the good deals before they sell out then you have to figure out a way to be here on time. Why should Meh and everyone who has gotten used to getting here at midnight change just so a few whiners on the East Coast can get to bed earlier?
You guys are so weird sometimes
@matthew Only "sometimes"?
@matthew I think Irk should address this in a new segment called, "Maybe It Bothers YOU More Than It Should."
@matthew I'm still waiting for an Ombudsman production with @snapster hand puppet, Irk, Hyram, Squeeky, a Greek chorus and, really, you can throw in as much of anything else as you want, as long as you have everything up through the chorus. C'mon, man, I'm counting on you.
I get up at 6am EST and yet I set an alarm, spend under a minute looking at the phone and back to bed. Simple. Stop making us EST people look bad!!
@HELLOALICE You seem a little salty, would you like to talk about it?
I didn't know that joining the site entitled me to dictate their business model.
Oh wait.
@Mavyn Exactly. I've seen this on other deal sites, too. Tanga comes to mind. Way back when, users would be getting all mad because things weren't run the way they'd like them run. So they'd bitch and moan, because, you know, it's the faceless internet and all. If you don't like the way a site is run, start your own site and do as you see fit.
@HELLOALICE Hello, Alice. You have some valid points, truly. What you need to understand is that, no, they're not going to be universally accepted. Honestly, you may be right that 9PM Eastern is more fair, but you (and others) shouldn't just assume or demand that everyone agrees with you. And, really, that's a whole lot of what's been going on here. Nobody likes that shit--and perhaps they dislike it as much as you dislike "stop complaining, that's just how it's done."
Personally, 9PM Eastern would work great for me. But the folks decrying the great injustice of it all and demanding a change make me want to side with those smug Californians.
Note too that this great injustice isn't inconsistent with the way business is done all over, and mediocre.com's decision will be driven by a variety of factors, not just what's ideal for folks on the East Coast. And meh can expect a shitload of backlash, especially given the tactlessness of most of the folks who are currently being inconvenienced and complaining.
Also, with few exceptions, folks who come to these forums to whine--at least those who do it with straight-faced self-pity--accomplish little and at best become the butt of everyone else's jokes. I won't tell you to shut the fuck up, but I do suggest that y'all take yourselves a tad less seriously.
Be less whiny. Laugh a little. If you want to respond, try some wit. And realize that whatever you say, you're likely to catch more shit than sympathy. And, no, this isn't a witty response. It's me earnestly wanting things to go better for you and your caucus--if not explicitly in terms of the rollover (again, not that I'm altogether opposed), just generally.
@joelmw You are awfully articulate for a goat. :)
(Disclaimer: I am a Capricorn.)
@moondrake I'm an Aquarius and as much as I generally don't believe in all of that stuff, the idealistic, romantic, introspective, loyal, nonconformist hippie shit fits.
@moondrake And thanks. :-)
@joelmw You're so reasonable. I want to be more like you. I don't know why I've been letting this get under my skin.
@moondrake I'm a gemini and I've already gotten distracted by something else
well said. the reality as far as i can see is that there is no one good time that will please everyone. 9pm et? a lot of people in the west are driving home from work for example. the truth is that, as in most of life, you cant please everyone, and if you try you just end up with a compromise that pleases no one.
east coaster here. i have no problem with the 12 am est item reveal. i try to hit meh at/shortly after 12 am but there are sometimes factors that get in the way. if i should miss a great deal because i didn't check meh early enough then that's the breaks. my world is not going to come to an end if i miss an absolutely fab deal. life's too short to sweat something like that.
@annwat
@annwat Yes. This.
"This is whiny entitlement."
Fixed that for you.
Signed,
A Maine resident who has to be up at 6am every weekday.
Doesn't the East Coast have enough local stores where stuff fell off of trucks to allow the less mobbed coast to have some sort of advantage?
I wish I had Eggos. Original.
@chr Actually, my father is still alive. My mother's the one I want back. But I've always loved Inigo's response to the empty promise, "anything you want":
Whatever. You also get to see "live" TV shows actually live, and the Oscars happen at a reasonable fricking time for you. It balances out.
I say if the east coasters keep complaining, you move it to 10 PM West Coast time. Squeaky wheel gets made into firewood, etc.
@Trin For the record, some of us East Coasters are perfectly fine... if not pleased with the current item change time.
I work overnight, and we are up to our assholes in alligators until midnight, but it usually slows down enough by 1 or 2 AM (CST) for me to check meh
I have missed several items that I coveted because they sold out early, mais c'est la vie. Sometimes you just have to live with your failures, or you can yell real loud and blame someone else.
Whatever works for you.
Cheer up, sucka!
@2many2no Where do you work that you are up to your asshole in alligators, and do you get hazard pay?
@neuromancer One of the Gator Boys perhaps?