2019 Pedroncelli Signature Selection Rosé, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
Vintage Notes
When it comes to appreciating this style of wine we have it down to an art. We have been producing rosé since 1954 and have more than 60 vintages under our belt. We look for a style that captures the essence of fruit and is crisp and a touch spicy. The grapes for our Rosé were harvested from the Bushnell Vineyard, a longtime family source. The site’s well-drained rocky soils, hillsides and excellent microclimate enable zinfandel to develop generous fruit flavors.
Tasting Notes
Pale pink in color and light bodied, the fresh aromas of strawberries and rose petals are followed by flavors of red fruits (straw-berry and cherry) with a touch of warm baking spices. Crisp acidity delivers a clean and refreshing finish. Our Rosé is made to be enjoyed upon release.
Winemaking Notes
A wet growing season with late May rains slowed the growth cycle and gave the vineyards the much needed water for an abundant crop. Perfect weather conditions during the harvest season brought warm days and cool nights which developed more aromatics and flavors than previous vintages. Zinfandel grapes were picked in mid-September to preserve the acidity, bring in lower sugars and heightened varietal flavors.
Once destemmed and pressed, the 100% free run juice is transferred to temperature controlled stainless steel tanks for a slow fermentation at 58 degrees F. The fruitiness of the zinfandel grape lends rounded and balanced flavor in the wine. Bottled a few months after harvest, the wine captures the freshness of the vintage.
Specs
Vintage: 2019
Appellation: Dry Creek Valley
Barrel Aging: None
Alcohol: 13.5%
pH 3.30
Total Acidity: .574g/100ml
Included in the Box
12x 2019 Pedroncelli Signature Selection Rosé, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
The year was 1927. President Calvin Coolidge captured the imagination of nobody. Babe Ruth hit home run after home run powered by little more than whiskey and sausage. And John Pedroncelli, Sr. bought a vineyard and winery in Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County. Since then, four generations of Pedroncellis have weathered Prohibition, wine booms and busts, and changing tastes. And they’re still a family-owned operation making acclaimed premium wines. Wherever you are now, Sultan of Swat and Silent Cal, this next glass is for you.
but the Pedroncelli buys from Casemates this last year have been excellent, we’ve never had anything bad from this label,
but still, a case of Rosé?
Then again, it’s a good price, and summer is coming up, and who knows we may even have company over some time in a couple months, so …
/giphy oblong-transparent-catfish
@TimW hmmm, no stranger than that. Giphy has some issue about combinations of those three words:
/giphy oblong
/giphy transparent
/giphy catfish
/giphy oblong transparent
/giphy transparent catfish
/giphy oblong transparent catfish
for some reason “oblong transparent” does not work.
@chienfou@rebeltaz There might be hope for your state yet. Still can’t ship to my state, but recently they changed their mind about the lottery. I guess they got tired of all the tickets bought over the state line. I haven’t bought any though even though we now can as no extra cash to put a match to.
@Kidsandliz@rebeltaz
We are still one of the states that have state run liquor stores, though at least beer and wine is available in grocery stores. Of course, it has to go thru a state warehouse first…
Maybe with all the COVID mail order stuff we can get on board with that now.
@radi0j0hn This is a very dry-style rosé which is actually typical of most premium rosés. It is not at all the sweet “white zinfandel” taste which was a passing fad about 20 years ago, but you can certainly find many “pink wines” that will be on the sweet side. However this is definitely not one of the sweet ones. I find it enjoyable with a splash or plain soda water for a lighter beverage.
First bedding, then sanitizing themed stuff, and now a case of wine.
I’m starting to get the impression they are trying to imply something to all the lonely people out there…
side note: in 2019, the Sonoma/Napa region had one of the worst widfires (the Kincade fire) that devastated the grape crop- if you like a smoky rose with a Marlboro* aftertaste, this is your kind of stuff.
@alacrity@InFrom
No “smoky” in the tasting notes, so what you heard didn’t affect this winery or their grape sourcing. Pedroncelli wouldn’t foist that off without disclosure. They’re a solid QPR winemaker for over a decade that I’ve been purveying their juice.
Go fix yourself a margarita. More for everyone else.
@alacrity I’m no farmer, but I don’t think that’s how growing stuff works. I grill meats near my garden all summer long, but the fucking tomatoes still taste like tomatoes. How do I get them to taste like meat!?!?
these grapes were harvested well before the fire. Note than 90% of the grapes in Sonoma county were in before the fire. Unfortunately the news sensationalized the damage.
@Kidsandliz there is some sort of distributers lobbying group. They are basically middle men but they get very very upset if a winery tries to direct sell to consumers because they and the stores they supply don’t get their cut. This hurts “small” wineries who could just do straight to you. So that group constantly puts up laws or resists reforms that benefit them. Like most BS lobbying.
@Kidsandliz@unksol Don’t underestimate the lobbying done by in-state wineries pushing for “protectionist” laws. That just happen to be aligned with the distributor lobbyists.
@mike808 true. The whole thing has some weird laws due to these groups fighting things out but they end up with not letting you buy what you want which is stupid.
@Felton10 I assume these are shipped from Wine Country Connect which also does most Casemates shipping. Packaging is usually a cardboard box with very nice (recyclable) formed cardboard spacers. I’ve never had a problem with any broken bottles. The cardboard spacers stack onto each other (if you flip them around) for efficient recycling, or if you want to keep them. In Summer they sometimes switch to formed styrofoam blocks which are actually very effective, but unfortunately are hard to recycle. I keep some around for year-round wine storage, though. But no bubble-wrap!
The wine deals usually sell-out on this site if I wait too long. Wasn’t sure I needed more, but this will store well, and will definitely be used (or given to friends). Spring/Summer is coming… I hope!
As I mentioned in an earlier post, this is enjoyable with a bit of plain soda for a lighter beverage. If you are used to “sweet,” though, you might need to add something sweeter. I like it the way it is.
@newby1@rjquillin this is a good point and UPS requirers an adult to sign at the door for wine they can’t just deliver it. So it does matter when it will be delivered but you should be tracking that on your own anyway. And has nothing to do with meh/texas
@newby1@unksol
Over on CM we have a number of discussion threads about shipping, and the perils of UPS.
Popular is shipping to a work/business address, if possible. Another is to ship to a UPS affiliate, but some have been known to add a service charge, generally around $5 for handling. Yeah, we’ve been vocal about that one. Some drop off locations accept wine, others don’t; seems to be a local per-store decision. Worst case is generally when you have to visit a distribution facility, not convenient and the hours generally really suck.
UPS my choice gives you a bit more control, but still not optimal for many.
@newby1@rjquillin good info. I think meh should maybe post a warning when they sell wine over here cause it’s possible people don’t know any of that. Or how UPS ships it or that you have to be home.
It makes sense but not if you’re used to ordering random stuff from meh/it’s your first time buying wine. People might not think about shipping quirks
@unksol Agreed. Sites that specialize in wine and spirits try to make that abundantly clear. BTW, with COVID, instead of getting my signature UPS (and FedEx) just ask my last name.
@ThunderChicken right. They are only selling wine so it’s right up front. I assume casemates has the same. Just saying since it’s ABNORMAL for meh they should probably have an obvious disclaimer when they do it. As a default for wine
Haven’t bought anything here in a while but the tasting notes seem to line up with our preferences. Cheap enough that if we don’t like it, we can give to friends or take to parties (if that’s ever a thing again).
I need another case of this and maxed out. For those of you that I know and have VMP, if you aren’t ordering 2 cases for yourself, can someone message me and place an order for me? And I’ll send you the moola? Just send me a whisper.
Got this the other day and had to try it. Great rose, just let it warm up a bit if you have it in the 'fridge. This is very dry, and won’t get cloying like a sweeter rose will. Really good stuff.
Anyone else get a massive headache after this Rosé?
Yesterday had blurred vision, today I got a big headache, which doesn’t usually happen? Something special about the amount of sulfates in this vs a merlot or cab?
2019 Pedroncelli Signature Selection Rosé, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County
Vintage Notes
Tasting Notes
Winemaking Notes
Specs
Included in the Box
Price Comparison
$194.40/Case at Pedroncelli Winery & Vineyards for 12x 2019 Pedroncelli Signature Selection Rosé, Dry Creek Valley, Sonoma County - $16.20 Per Bottle
About The Winery
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Mar 22
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@mediocrebot why the heck is this just coming in now? this is a 2 year old thread?!?
@ticklescratch Check this thread.
90 Day Warranty huh? I’m in
@vard24 If your head isn’t throbbing by the next morning then they will give you 1/12th of your money back. They don’t guarantee it.
/giphy warranty
Lol nice.
@fuzzmanmatt THAT’S THE SEX NUMBER
@fuzzmanmatt @Pufferfishy that’s A sex number
@fuzzmanmatt @Pufferfishy @unksol 867-5309?
@fuzzmanmatt @Pufferfishy @unksol 606-0842?
@fuzzmanmatt @pmarin @Pufferfishy not sure what we are doing here. Try 555-555-5555
I mean get 867-5309
@fuzzmanmatt @Pufferfishy @unksol
It’s also the exit of my District office in Troy Michigan, back in the days before I retired…
@fuzzmanmatt @Pufferfishy @winecaseaholic
In troy?
https://www.troyhistoricvillage.org/feb-23-2015-called-big-beaver-road/
Interesting besides it being exit 69. I think a highway engineer had a laugh
I’ve barely tucked in to my 2018s!
If somebody in SoCal is buying I could help with a few, but shouldn’t go as far as a half case this time around.
I’d be willing to split a case in the Rochester, NY area
/giphy brash-restorative-plastic
Shipping expected March 22? As in 4 weeks? Is the delivery via burro?
@khiddy it’ll get there alot quicker than that.
@khiddy @Winedavid49 My case just arrived this morning!
Pedroncelli… hmm. Typically this is instabuy but I’m not huge on rose.
I’m going to debate even though I’m sure this is probably really good.
@RogerWilco heh, those were my thoughts
@revmem @RogerWilco my concerns as well -
but the Pedroncelli buys from Casemates this last year have been excellent, we’ve never had anything bad from this label,
but still, a case of Rosé?
Then again, it’s a good price, and summer is coming up, and who knows we may even have company over some time in a couple months, so …
/giphy oblong-transparent-catfish
is giphy broken?
@stolicat let’s try again!
/giphy the old college try
@stolicat seems it’s working now. Must have been a glitch in the matrix.
/giphy winning
@TimW hmmm, no stranger than that. Giphy has some issue about combinations of those three words:
/giphy oblong
/giphy transparent
/giphy catfish
/giphy oblong transparent
/giphy transparent catfish
/giphy oblong transparent catfish
for some reason “oblong transparent” does not work.
@stolicat @TimW We probably have an adult filter on. Thank heavens.
@stolicat that is strange! Bug in the forum!!
/giphy oblong transparent catfish
Not shippable to Alabama… Sigh…
@chienfou Ain’t that some shit. That is the one thing I hate about this state. We can’t have liquor shipped and we can’t play the lottery.
@chienfou @rebeltaz
Elect a better state government, then.
@chienfou @rebeltaz There might be hope for your state yet. Still can’t ship to my state, but recently they changed their mind about the lottery. I guess they got tired of all the tickets bought over the state line. I haven’t bought any though even though we now can as no extra cash to put a match to.
@Kidsandliz @rebeltaz
We are still one of the states that have state run liquor stores, though at least beer and wine is available in grocery stores. Of course, it has to go thru a state warehouse first…
Maybe with all the COVID mail order stuff we can get on board with that now.
Not that huge of a Rose fan, but I am becoming a Pedroncelli fan. Maybe I can be converted. Gonna try it.
It’s not like we love Ripple, but this wine just did not taste good to us. Kind of salty or sour. Probably just us.
@radi0j0hn This is a very dry-style rosé which is actually typical of most premium rosés. It is not at all the sweet “white zinfandel” taste which was a passing fad about 20 years ago, but you can certainly find many “pink wines” that will be on the sweet side. However this is definitely not one of the sweet ones. I find it enjoyable with a splash or plain soda water for a lighter beverage.
i can not emphasize strongly enough just how shitty this makes margaritas.
@alacrity Try it with a sangria recipe. Probably delicious with peaches.
I still have 8 bottles from casemates i bought last year in my basement. I’ve been just giving it away. But that was white wine and I do like rosé
First bedding, then sanitizing themed stuff, and now a case of wine.
I’m starting to get the impression they are trying to imply something to all the lonely people out there…
@JennFrepa I think it just means meh is trying to fuck us.
@warpedrotors Lmfao that’s a mental image I need right before bed
Thankfully my husband is here
side note: in 2019, the Sonoma/Napa region had one of the worst widfires (the Kincade fire) that devastated the grape crop- if you like a smoky rose with a Marlboro* aftertaste, this is your kind of stuff.
*not available in menthol
@alacrity Was every part of the Dry Creek AVA affected by smoke?
@alacrity Or for that matter, was any part of it affected?
@alacrity @InFrom
No “smoky” in the tasting notes, so what you heard didn’t affect this winery or their grape sourcing. Pedroncelli wouldn’t foist that off without disclosure. They’re a solid QPR winemaker for over a decade that I’ve been purveying their juice.
Go fix yourself a margarita. More for everyone else.
@alacrity I’m no farmer, but I don’t think that’s how growing stuff works. I grill meats near my garden all summer long, but the fucking tomatoes still taste like tomatoes. How do I get them to taste like meat!?!?
@alacrity oh, that’s easy…
@alacrity
these grapes were harvested well before the fire. Note than 90% of the grapes in Sonoma county were in before the fire. Unfortunately the news sensationalized the damage.
@alacrity @pedroncellifam
Thanks for dropping by Ed!
Way different audience here than over on
CM, but more than a few show some hope.
@warpedrotors Ha! If only!
With grapes, smoke taint is an actual thing, it can be detected in the finished product.
Am I missing the state shipping list? Normally in the specs there is a “available in:” state list and I’m not seeing it.
Some states have partial laws around if the winery is licensed in that state or other junk so some sales we can get and some we can’t.
From current casemates for a different wine. Need this on meh
“Available for AZ; CA; CO; CT; DC; FL; GA; IA; ID; IL; IN; KS; LA; MA; MD; ME; MI; MN; MO; MT; NC; ND; NE; NJ; NM; NV; NY; OH; OK; OR; PA; RI; SC; SD; TN; TX; VA; VT; WA; WI; WV; WY”
I could buy that one for once
@unksol Ha Ha not available in my state, mine being one of 9 meh can’t ship to. Why am I not surprised? Good thing I don’t drink.
@Kidsandliz there is some sort of distributers lobbying group. They are basically middle men but they get very very upset if a winery tries to direct sell to consumers because they and the stores they supply don’t get their cut. This hurts “small” wineries who could just do straight to you. So that group constantly puts up laws or resists reforms that benefit them. Like most BS lobbying.
@Kidsandliz @unksol Don’t underestimate the lobbying done by in-state wineries pushing for “protectionist” laws. That just happen to be aligned with the distributor lobbyists.
@mike808 true. The whole thing has some weird laws due to these groups fighting things out but they end up with not letting you buy what you want which is stupid.
Bus of retirees blows a flat tire in front of your house
It is as the prophesy foretold!
Bet the bubble wrap consumption on this deal is out of sight.
@Felton10 I assume these are shipped from Wine Country Connect which also does most Casemates shipping. Packaging is usually a cardboard box with very nice (recyclable) formed cardboard spacers. I’ve never had a problem with any broken bottles. The cardboard spacers stack onto each other (if you flip them around) for efficient recycling, or if you want to keep them. In Summer they sometimes switch to formed styrofoam blocks which are actually very effective, but unfortunately are hard to recycle. I keep some around for year-round wine storage, though. But no bubble-wrap!
@Felton10 @pmarin Here’s what I did the last time I received wine in styrofoam:
The Pedroncelli Rosé pairs well with sunsets.
@pseudogourmet98 nice!!
@pseudogourmet98 @Winedavid49
In Iowa, we also have neat sunsets, so I bought a case to go with ours…
Of course, I’ll wait till grass is green, before drinking it outside in lawn chair, while I live in Iowa, I’m not that crazy…
@pseudogourmet98 @winecaseaholic Gorgeous
@winecaseaholic @Winedavid49
Agree, that is a stunning sunset. I guess I’m just happier seeing them on the water, from our boat.
@winecaseaholic @Winedavid49
The wine deals usually sell-out on this site if I wait too long. Wasn’t sure I needed more, but this will store well, and will definitely be used (or given to friends). Spring/Summer is coming… I hope!
As I mentioned in an earlier post, this is enjoyable with a bit of plain soda for a lighter beverage. If you are used to “sweet,” though, you might need to add something sweeter. I like it the way it is.
/giphy cagey-able-pancake
Does anyone know how the Rolling 3lectricity blackout is affecting Meh’s shipping ?
@newby1
These don’t ship from TX, they ship UPS from Sonoma, CA.
@newby1 does it really matter/have you met meh shipping? It shows up sometime in the future
@newby1 @rjquillin this is a good point and UPS requirers an adult to sign at the door for wine they can’t just deliver it. So it does matter when it will be delivered but you should be tracking that on your own anyway. And has nothing to do with meh/texas
@newby1 @unksol
Over on CM we have a number of discussion threads about shipping, and the perils of UPS.
Popular is shipping to a work/business address, if possible. Another is to ship to a UPS affiliate, but some have been known to add a service charge, generally around $5 for handling. Yeah, we’ve been vocal about that one. Some drop off locations accept wine, others don’t; seems to be a local per-store decision. Worst case is generally when you have to visit a distribution facility, not convenient and the hours generally really suck.
UPS my choice gives you a bit more control, but still not optimal for many.
@newby1 @rjquillin good info. I think meh should maybe post a warning when they sell wine over here cause it’s possible people don’t know any of that. Or how UPS ships it or that you have to be home.
It makes sense but not if you’re used to ordering random stuff from meh/it’s your first time buying wine. People might not think about shipping quirks
@unksol Agreed. Sites that specialize in wine and spirits try to make that abundantly clear. BTW, with COVID, instead of getting my signature UPS (and FedEx) just ask my last name.
@ThunderChicken right. They are only selling wine so it’s right up front. I assume casemates has the same. Just saying since it’s ABNORMAL for meh they should probably have an obvious disclaimer when they do it. As a default for wine
/giphy neon-steadfast-stitch
Haven’t bought anything here in a while but the tasting notes seem to line up with our preferences. Cheap enough that if we don’t like it, we can give to friends or take to parties (if that’s ever a thing again).
Hoping the order code is not predictive
/giphy fouled-underwhelmed-taste
Wine is spoiled grape juice…
@jimdkc grape juice is wine that failed in its mission
My sponsor would not approve of this purchase, so I’m going to pass.
@fredmavis respect.
@fredmavis sponsor?
I need another case of this and maxed out. For those of you that I know and have VMP, if you aren’t ordering 2 cases for yourself, can someone message me and place an order for me? And I’ll send you the moola? Just send me a whisper.
This can be disregarded. The other case has been obtained. Allz da winez iz ourz!
I really liked previous vintages of this. It tends to slide down easier than it should. Easy autobuy
One of my favorite order numbers of all time…
/image damned-arrogant-cereal
/giphy damned-arrogant-cereal
Great
/giphy thundering-bored-earthworm
Loved every wine I’ve gotten from Pedroncelli. For this price, it’s a no-brainer.
/giphy gruntled-fashionable-fuel
Must.buy.now. Done
Been buying this rose for eons. My fav rose’ for anytime.
What the heck.
/giphy knowing-doleful-apollo
I bought the 2018 when it was offered here last May. Easy decision.
/giphy warped-neat-level
/giphy jinxed-modest-shade
Got this the other day and had to try it. Great rose, just let it warm up a bit if you have it in the 'fridge. This is very dry, and won’t get cloying like a sweeter rose will. Really good stuff.
Anyone else get a massive headache after this Rosé?
Yesterday had blurred vision, today I got a big headache, which doesn’t usually happen? Something special about the amount of sulfates in this vs a merlot or cab?
@caffeineguy I’ve had a couple bottles so far, and no such issues. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@longtones Thanks-- I must have had a migraine; never happened to me before! But I’ve had the rose a few times since, and been fine, so just a fluke!