I never much cared for the character... until I watched Sherlock. Cumberbatch and Freeman are amazing. (And... I'm losing faith in the meh community because so many people are choosing RD Jr. I wish I could figure out how to like those movies. I just... can't.)
Binge-watched the 80s Jeremy Brett version on Netflix. Stayed fairly close to the original stories. His life on Wikipedia is a bit sad though. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Brett
@ThatsHeadly@tvethiopia I just gotta say that having never watched a single episode of Star Trek trying to jump in with TNG a few weeks ago was a weird experience. I still haven't finished the first episode but it started out so much wackier than I expected right off the bat.
@JonT Some of the season 1 episodes are just OK. But it's my favorite ST series. No one would blame you if you skipped episode 3 - "The Naked Now" If you watch that one don't let it put you off the series - there are some really great episodes.
@JonT yeah, "the naked now" is pretty out there, but i think they were just trying to rope in fans of the original series early on by mirroring "the naked time." i'm on season 3 of a full rewatch right now and the show is still amazing. enjoy!
I voted the original from the books and stories. However, I could have easily voted for Basil of Baker Street from The Great Mouse Detective (that would qualify as the "other" option), Benedict Cumberbatch who makes Holmes' intelligence seem almost tangible or Basil Rathbone who brought flare and dignity to the role and pretty much set the standard.
The Robert Downey, Jr. versions are exciting and energetic, but can sometimes be a bit much. I blame that on the director more than the actor, though. The best thing about Elementary is Lucy Lui, though I'll admit I haven't been able to watch the show very much.
My favorite Moriarty is Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective. Vincent Price's grandly over the top performance makes that character a true stand out. Daniel Davis who played James Moriarty on Star Trek the Next Generation was also quite memorable in the role.
I did not care much for the original books, but perhaps if I had read them when they were published I would not have know how stupid some of the things were. (Large skull != smart.) Robert Downey Jr. and Elementary are fun, though not particularly smart. The most recent BBC show is my favorite, and although some sacrifices are made, it isn't usually unbearably stupid.
Original stories, then Jeremy Brett. The John Gielgud (radio) and Basil Rathbone versions are also good.
The Cumberbatch version is sometimes pretty good, but it's ultimately spoiled by the obsession modern British TV has with making everything edgy and cloyingly clever.
I grew up on Jeremy Brett and when I ran out of those went to Rathbone. The new series are both good for different reasons (Both Sherlock and Elementary).
I listened to the QI podcast (No Such Thing As A Fish) the other day and discovered that Basil Rathbone fought in WWI and spent most of it dressed as a tree. So there's that...
The original stories are the only place you get to experience the real Sherlock Holmes. The brilliance and ingenuity of the Holmes of the books will never be duplicated. Sherlock Holmes was a cold, self loathing, tragically genius cocaine addict whose only reprise came from solving the puzzles and plots set in place by the truly devious and demented Prof. Moriarty. Holmes had little interest in the people around him (two exceptions of course) and never bothered with recognizing the consequences of failure. His thirst for knowledge was only surpassed by the insatiable need for intellectual conquest. Holmes both loved and hated Moriarty as an intellectual equal and someone who could fully identify with Holmes' obsession tortured psyche. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had an incredible story to tell and he did if without flaw.
@andrewkim47 That is quite... disturbing. Watson looks like Dum Dum Dugan in a Bioshock suit, and Sherlock is so thin you could snap him in half like a pencil. I'm not sure what to make of obligatory female sidekick, either.
@koalamoo They made Lestrade into a woman, actually. I watched a few episodes when it was on; they basically just messed up a bunch of the classics by inserting random sci-fi elements. Ice guns, jumping into a forcefield and dying, etc.
I sceond (or third) Basil Rathbone as the quintissential Sherlock Holmes, and am surprised he is not getting a higher vote count. Although, come to think of it, perhaps the majority of the Meh crowd are too young to have experienced his impeccible and proper English style.
I just heard John Gielgud as Sherlock on XM Radio Classics Channel 82 this morning. A very good rendition, but not quite the level of Basil, IMHO.
@phonorad The Basil Rathbone Holmes was out of time; the last couple I remember actually occurred during World War 2. He was great, but the jiggering done to the stories to accommodate the changed timeframe was unfortunate.
Cumberbatch is great, plays and looks the part. I've heard Elementary is OK to good, but I just can't bring myself to watch it. I like Lu and Sherlock, but the combination is just too weird for me.
@hollboll I read "here's my mug" as a reference to the picture above it. Like you were saying, "Here's the obligatory selfie." Then I saw the mug. And the colon.
Elementary is one of my favorite shows. Aside from my general love of new takes on old standards, the depth of the characters really grabbed me. As far as the weekly plots go, it's just a police procedural, but the character arcs are quite satisfying.
I enjoy Sherlock as well, but I don't feel compelled to watch it like I do with Elementary. It certainly isn't missing the feels that tend to motivate me to watch a show... so I don't know why but it just doesn't grab me.
WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE GREAT MOUSE DETECTIVE, BASIL OF BAKER STREET, AN OPTION
WHY, MEH
ANSWER ME
@HELLOALICE
Because we forgot.
@JonT I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR
@HELLOALICE you know I'm upset too because I loved that movie so much. I need to rewatch it now.
@HELLOALICE because he is not Sherlock Holmes. Just some rodent who lives in his walls.
@simplersimon @HELLOALICE I guess that's technically correct too.
@simplersimon I would argue that he is very much a "version of Sherlock Holmes".
I never much cared for the character... until I watched Sherlock. Cumberbatch and Freeman are amazing. (And... I'm losing faith in the meh community because so many people are choosing RD Jr. I wish I could figure out how to like those movies. I just... can't.)
@christinewas Downey's version I call "Sir Conan-Doyle's Fight Club". Meh.
@smyle I think that actually helps.
Jeremy Brett will always be the definitive Sherlock Holmes for us. All others just take a bath wishing they could do as good as job as he did.
Binge-watched the 80s Jeremy Brett version on Netflix. Stayed fairly close to the original stories. His life on Wikipedia is a bit sad though. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Brett
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@scfd0766 Jeremy Brett FTW.
Data on Star Trek TNG.
@ThatsHeadly YUP
@ThatsHeadly @tvethiopia I just gotta say that having never watched a single episode of Star Trek trying to jump in with TNG a few weeks ago was a weird experience. I still haven't finished the first episode but it started out so much wackier than I expected right off the bat.
@JonT Some of the season 1 episodes are just OK. But it's my favorite ST series. No one would blame you if you skipped episode 3 - "The Naked Now" If you watch that one don't let it put you off the series - there are some really great episodes.
@JonT yeah, "the naked now" is pretty out there, but i think they were just trying to rope in fans of the original series early on by mirroring "the naked time." i'm on season 3 of a full rewatch right now and the show is still amazing. enjoy!
Ah, Cumberbatch. That man drives me up to a 2 on the Kinsey Scale.
I voted the original from the books and stories. However, I could have easily voted for Basil of Baker Street from The Great Mouse Detective (that would qualify as the "other" option), Benedict Cumberbatch who makes Holmes' intelligence seem almost tangible or Basil Rathbone who brought flare and dignity to the role and pretty much set the standard.
The Robert Downey, Jr. versions are exciting and energetic, but can sometimes be a bit much. I blame that on the director more than the actor, though. The best thing about Elementary is Lucy Lui, though I'll admit I haven't been able to watch the show very much.
My favorite Moriarty is Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective. Vincent Price's grandly over the top performance makes that character a true stand out. Daniel Davis who played James Moriarty on Star Trek the Next Generation was also quite memorable in the role.
The BBC radio plays are the bible.
@DrunkCat Theological, my dear Watson.
@mcanavino Serious, check 'em out:
@thismyusername He was brilliant in Into Darkness and Imitation Game.
The Seven-Percent Solution?
I did not care much for the original books, but perhaps if I had read them when they were published I would not have know how stupid some of the things were. (Large skull != smart.)
Robert Downey Jr. and Elementary are fun, though not particularly smart.
The most recent BBC show is my favorite, and although some sacrifices are made, it isn't usually unbearably stupid.
Original stories, then Jeremy Brett. The John Gielgud (radio) and Basil Rathbone versions are also good.
The Cumberbatch version is sometimes pretty good, but it's ultimately spoiled by the obsession modern British TV has with making everything edgy and cloyingly clever.
I really enjoyed the original "Encyclopedia Brown -- Boy Detective" books when I was a yute.
I grew up on Jeremy Brett and when I ran out of those went to Rathbone. The new series are both good for different reasons (Both Sherlock and Elementary).
I listened to the QI podcast (No Such Thing As A Fish) the other day and discovered that Basil Rathbone fought in WWI and spent most of it dressed as a tree. So there's that...
The original stories are the only place you get to experience the real Sherlock Holmes. The brilliance and ingenuity of the Holmes of the books will never be duplicated. Sherlock Holmes was a cold, self loathing, tragically genius cocaine addict whose only reprise came from solving the puzzles and plots set in place by the truly devious and demented Prof. Moriarty. Holmes had little interest in the people around him (two exceptions of course) and never bothered with recognizing the consequences of failure. His thirst for knowledge was only surpassed by the insatiable need for intellectual conquest. Holmes both loved and hated Moriarty as an intellectual equal and someone who could fully identify with Holmes' obsession tortured psyche. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had an incredible story to tell and he did if without flaw.
That uppity jerk solves crimes with information we aren't even given.
@andrewkim47 That is quite... disturbing. Watson looks like Dum Dum Dugan in a Bioshock suit, and Sherlock is so thin you could snap him in half like a pencil. I'm not sure what to make of obligatory female sidekick, either.
@koalamoo They made Lestrade into a woman, actually. I watched a few episodes when it was on; they basically just messed up a bunch of the classics by inserting random sci-fi elements. Ice guns, jumping into a forcefield and dying, etc.
While I love Basil Rathbone, my favorite version of Sherlock Holmes is Hugh Laurie as House.
I sceond (or third) Basil Rathbone as the quintissential Sherlock Holmes, and am surprised he is not getting a higher vote count. Although, come to think of it, perhaps the majority of the Meh crowd are too young to have experienced his impeccible and proper English style.
I just heard John Gielgud as Sherlock on XM Radio Classics Channel 82 this morning. A very good rendition, but not quite the level of Basil, IMHO.
@phonorad The Basil Rathbone Holmes was out of time; the last couple I remember actually occurred during World War 2. He was great, but the jiggering done to the stories to accommodate the changed timeframe was unfortunate.
Cumberbatch is great, plays and looks the part.
I've heard Elementary is OK to good, but I just can't bring myself to watch it. I like Lu and Sherlock, but the combination is just too weird for me.
Data of course!
although @ThatsHeadly beat me to it
I'm a fan of Cumberbatch, as a few of you may know... (Cough, @jont @mehcus)
On my trip to Europe last Fall, I did visit old 221B Baker St. :)
(yes, the silhouette is made up of little Sherlock silhouettes).
And of course, here's my mug:
@hollboll I read "here's my mug" as a reference to the picture above it. Like you were saying, "Here's the obligatory selfie." Then I saw the mug. And the colon.
Elementary is one of my favorite shows. Aside from my general love of new takes on old standards, the depth of the characters really grabbed me. As far as the weekly plots go, it's just a police procedural, but the character arcs are quite satisfying.
I enjoy Sherlock as well, but I don't feel compelled to watch it like I do with Elementary. It certainly isn't missing the feels that tend to motivate me to watch a show... so I don't know why but it just doesn't grab me.
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Seriously? Basil Rathbone is low on this list?
No appreciation for the classics in this group I guess.
Matt Frewer (of Max Headroom fame) also did a set of Sherlock Holmes shows
@duodec speaking of max headroom.... did you catch this article? https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/2/8285139/max-headroom-oral-history-80s-cyberpunk-interview So ahead of its time ;)