My company has an office in Toronto, and I have a sponsor so we could move if I could convince my wife, But she likes warm weather so we’re stuck in Arizona…
@ThatsHeadly Toronto’s actually rather nice, temperature-wise. Well, according to every Canadian I’ve met in Ontario that isn’t in Toronto. So, y’know, really nice for Canada. Good luck affording anything resembling a house, though!
Been there many times for vacations/visits, but not in over 20 years. Lovely place (and I generally like cold weather, but never tried it 9 months of the year). But I am not an ice hockey fan, and I think you would have to be to not go crazy there. Loved Montreal - THE cosmopolitan city. Been to Niagara Falls probably a dozen times. Edmonton and Alberta in general has (have?) the greatest people. Hope to eventually get back to Banff and the Canadian Rockies again before I die, but by then will probably be too old to enjoy the hiking.
BTW, what’s their immigration policy for people coming up from the south?
@f00l I’ll pay you $40 to move to Canada. But I’ll have some stringent “prove you actually moved to Canada” requirements before paying. Do you accept PayPal?
I meant someone should pay me the full costs of the entire operation including settling in and getting started there. Plus any extra local COL expenses for life.
Aiming at the general Vancouver area. Semi-rural would be ok. Should be a safe area.
Want to live in a reasonable nice manner, but not extravagantly.
If you are willing to fund all that, I would consider PayPal for the $ transactions.
@f00l yeah see, that’s a whole nother ball o’ bees. Might need to get a Kickstarter going on that. In the meantime, if you wing it on over to Canada sans plan, you know, as performance art or as grist for the first few chapters of a roman à clef, my offer totally stands.
@droopus Are they 100% not letting you in? Do they treat different federal crimes differently?
Speeding on federal lands (say, near national parks) is still federal crime these days! (I managed to avoid it, but there was a real possibility.)
I would love to visit but my one year living in Omaha, NE let me know I’m not built for real winters. We rarely have snow down here in south Arkansas. I lived in northwest Arkansas for 12 years where we got lots more snow and ice compared to here but good lord i wasn’t prepared. First big snow in NE we had 16 feet and it was -5F. Nearly an hour to scrape my jeep. I said nope I’m done. Called my parents and said I’m out. Come help me move? I waited till my son was done with the school year and we were gone. Screw that.
@ivannabc - Canadians (in Alberta anyway) are prepared for the cold in ways SOME of us (south of the Mason-Dixon anyway) don’t seem to be. Also in Calgary at least it’s a dry cold that doesn’t seem to create that black ice that makes winters in Philly so exciting. I have gone walking around Heritage Park Historical Village in sub-sub-zero cold and just felt a kind of tickling around my nose as my breath freezes.
I like visiting Alberta occasionally but after doing Calgary and the Stampede more than a few times I’m at the “BTDT” stage. I can do Banff and Kananaskis Country again, but I’ll bet I’d get bored with it all the time. I hear great things about Montreal and Vancouver, though.
@aetris@ivannabc I lived in NW Ontario (north and east of Thunderbay on Black Sturgeon Lake. There -12 seems warm as it can be -40 to -60 (F, fyi -40 is basically the same in both F and C) there. And in it is so quiet there in the winter if you stand still outside you can hear your heart beat. Takes about 3 weeks to get used to the cold. Then when I was home at Christmas (Snowbelt, NE OH) I was outside shoveling snow in something like 5 above and it felt positively tropical in comparison. No hat (did cover my ears), jacket unzipped… In the end it is all relative. Worse if you stay indoors most of the time as then you don’t get used to the temperatures outside.
@aetris@Kidsandliz well that’s true. It’s hotter than blue blazes with extremely high humidity here and a girl i went to high school with who moved here from Alaska nearly died the first summer she was here.
A friend of mine from Montana was making fun of us for being off of work for two days for ice and snow. I said we don’t waste the money buying equipment for something that happens once every two years. Plus it’s usually gone almost as fast as we get it.
@ivannabc Yeah when I worked taking adjudicated youth canoeing across the state of FL (and we had no air conditioning there either), when staff would come down from Maine in the summer they’d be dying for for several weeks, drawing straws to see who’d get to sleep in the walk in cooler. Nope nope nope wouldn’t do that. Only makes it worse. Of course it also meant we needed to take a jacket with us any time we’d go into a store so we wouldn’t freeze.
I’ve often said, that if my MI based Retail Employer, ever decided to expand across the border into Southern Canukistan, I’d be one of the First to Volunteer to Transfer…
I’d move anywhere for a tolerable job that pays enough money. The last time I visited Canada, it was a two day drive around Lake Erie. I think the place is neat because it’s like an alternate universe - the terrain, weather and population are familiar but slightly different.
/image fringe TV show
I have a hard enough time with the weather here, in relatively moderate DC. There is no way I’m moving further north for less than 7 figures, and even then I’m going to need 6 months of vacation time.
I grew up in So Cal, there’s no way I could tolerate the weather there. Though i I’ve been to Vancouver and it’s lovely. But it’s green and lush because it rains all the time.
@Fuzzalini@ivannabc and they can keep the air pollution too. I was in Riverside and didn’t even realize there were mountains behind that town due to the air pollution until it rained (which I gather is a rare event) and the air cleared up enough to see them.
I do like to visit The Great White North, but if you think our govt is a mess start looking at what’s going on up there! I have a feeling there’s going to be the nicest uprising in the history of uprisings very soon as western provinces say “Enough is enough!”
I grew up right by the border and some of my best friends are Canadian. But the drivers…! The ones who zoom up behind you going 90 when everyone else is going 60…you know it’s a Canadian license plate before you even look at it… ugh.
A driver is not supposed to block the left lane by law. At least in Tx. Or so is my understanding.
Even if the person behind them is a tool who wants to go 160mph.
But I do see asshole-bully-type drivers in a hurry abuse this during rush hour when no one is going anywhere fast. They will sometimes tailgate in the left lane, when the poor vehicle in front in them literally has no alternative place to go.
When someone tries that on me and it’s gridlock on the highway, I have developed the fine art of coasting.
But if I just want to go slower than the manic crazy driver behind me, and there is room in front of me or to the side, I’ll yeild and get out of the way.
@chienfou@f00l Most of our highways are still 55 mph, so it’s harder to justify some people’s behavior — you don’t need to be that much of a jerk. (Or so I try to remind myself when I’m the jerk doing 80 .)
Allegedly there’s a law against impeding traffic here too, but I don’t think it’s ever been enforced. Some of them seem to really enjoy it.
I’ve actually seriously looked into it. My husband is currently in a PhD program here, so I’m not moving for a few years, but after that we’ll both be in career fields that give you a bump when applying for a visa.
I’ve lived just a few minutes south of the border before. I’m not enthusiastic about the weather, but that’s what tropical vacations are for. Or there’s Vancouver.
Already moved to Canada. Pretty much right after the election. Except it was just because I’d gotten a job in Ottawa, not because of politics. Just cold, hard cash. Cash is plastic up here, now. No fooling. The bills are plastic. The first batch melted in dryers and got brittle and cracked in the cold. In the cold. Canada. Cold. Hah.
It’s actually pretty nice here, though, and holy-shit-how-is-this-possible level safe, but here are some detractors:
Housing prices utterly suck. I cannot stress how much suck it is. Milk in bags is just entirely wrong. Alcohol prices are outrageous (60 to 80 for a handle of Cap’n Morgan. Hell no). There is NO FREAKING MEXICAN FOOD.
Main plus: my shiny new baby is a dual citizen international baby of mystery. Heck yeah living vicariously through sprog.
The alcohol thing, though, is inexcusable, and why I now kind of like upstate New York.
Been there, done that, would do again
@lichme I lived and worked there too. Somewhere I still have my social insurance card from Canada.
Nah, nice people make me uncomfortable.
@awk Sorry.
Am I the only one concerned by the lack of a “no, right here is fine” option? I mean, I wouldn’t pick it, but I feel like it should be there.
@Durago that might be an option in 2020…
@ThatsHeadly I meant for the people in Australia or somewhere… Countries that aren’t actively trying to incite global wars.
@Durago Yeah… It’s a beautiful country but, at this point, couldn’t imagine leaving my USA.
@lseeber I wasn’t talking about USA people!
@Durago @lseeber USA is best country.
I’m very happy here in Walkersville, MD. in the “states.” And, I assume Canadians are happy in their homes as well.
Saying “it’s too cold” makes me want to go there more. I hate this 77 degree Florida weather that seems like it never gets cooler.
@JT954 “Florida” that’s your problem right there…
My company has an office in Toronto, and I have a sponsor so we could move if I could convince my wife, But she likes warm weather so we’re stuck in Arizona…
@ThatsHeadly Ask her again in July when we hit 120.
@ThatsHeadly Toronto’s actually rather nice, temperature-wise. Well, according to every Canadian I’ve met in Ontario that isn’t in Toronto. So, y’know, really nice for Canada. Good luck affording anything resembling a house, though!
I liked Toronto but Kitchner with their deep-fried pigtails was a bit much. And now that Honest Eds is gone, it just isn’t the same.
Nope, I’m just fine here. I’m much happier with the US than Canada. And much happier here than I would be there.
Been there many times for vacations/visits, but not in over 20 years. Lovely place (and I generally like cold weather, but never tried it 9 months of the year). But I am not an ice hockey fan, and I think you would have to be to not go crazy there. Loved Montreal - THE cosmopolitan city. Been to Niagara Falls probably a dozen times. Edmonton and Alberta in general has (have?) the greatest people. Hope to eventually get back to Banff and the Canadian Rockies again before I die, but by then will probably be too old to enjoy the hiking.
BTW, what’s their immigration policy for people coming up from the south?
@phendrick Umm don’t think we can claim political refugee status LOL
@Kidsandliz @phendrick Not yet at least.
@Kidsandliz @phendrick Give it time.
Nah, I like keeping most of my money.
Nope. I like living in the greatest country on Earth.
@daveinwarsh So, Canada?
@daveinwarsh greatest at what
@daveinwarsh @spacemart Incarceration. We have 5% of the world’s population and 25% of its prison inmates.
We are not only the per capita leader in prison inmates but we have numerically more prison inmates than any other country.
@droopus And Texas is the best at locking up its citizens.
Somebody pay me to.
@f00l I’ll pay you $40 to move to Canada. But I’ll have some stringent “prove you actually moved to Canada” requirements before paying. Do you accept PayPal?
@UncleVinny
I meant someone should pay me the full costs of the entire operation including settling in and getting started there. Plus any extra local COL expenses for life.
Aiming at the general Vancouver area. Semi-rural would be ok. Should be a safe area.
Want to live in a reasonable nice manner, but not extravagantly.
If you are willing to fund all that, I would consider PayPal for the $ transactions.
@f00l yeah see, that’s a whole nother ball o’ bees. Might need to get a Kickstarter going on that. In the meantime, if you wing it on over to Canada sans plan, you know, as performance art or as grist for the first few chapters of a roman à clef, my offer totally stands.
As the owner of a federal conviction, I could get into North Korea before Canada would let me in.
I did go to hockey camp there as a teenager…
@droopus Are they 100% not letting you in? Do they treat different federal crimes differently?
Speeding on federal lands (say, near national parks) is still federal crime these days! (I managed to avoid it, but there was a real possibility.)
Please introduce me to a nice Canadian lady that wants to marry a bookish, indoorsy American husband.
Would Meh start shipping to Canada? If so, I’ll consider moving.
I would love to visit but my one year living in Omaha, NE let me know I’m not built for real winters. We rarely have snow down here in south Arkansas. I lived in northwest Arkansas for 12 years where we got lots more snow and ice compared to here but good lord i wasn’t prepared. First big snow in NE we had 16 feet and it was -5F. Nearly an hour to scrape my jeep. I said nope I’m done. Called my parents and said I’m out. Come help me move? I waited till my son was done with the school year and we were gone. Screw that.
@ivannabc - Canadians (in Alberta anyway) are prepared for the cold in ways SOME of us (south of the Mason-Dixon anyway) don’t seem to be. Also in Calgary at least it’s a dry cold that doesn’t seem to create that black ice that makes winters in Philly so exciting. I have gone walking around Heritage Park Historical Village in sub-sub-zero cold and just felt a kind of tickling around my nose as my breath freezes.
I like visiting Alberta occasionally but after doing Calgary and the Stampede more than a few times I’m at the “BTDT” stage. I can do Banff and Kananaskis Country again, but I’ll bet I’d get bored with it all the time. I hear great things about Montreal and Vancouver, though.
@aetris @ivannabc I lived in NW Ontario (north and east of Thunderbay on Black Sturgeon Lake. There -12 seems warm as it can be -40 to -60 (F, fyi -40 is basically the same in both F and C) there. And in it is so quiet there in the winter if you stand still outside you can hear your heart beat. Takes about 3 weeks to get used to the cold. Then when I was home at Christmas (Snowbelt, NE OH) I was outside shoveling snow in something like 5 above and it felt positively tropical in comparison. No hat (did cover my ears), jacket unzipped… In the end it is all relative. Worse if you stay indoors most of the time as then you don’t get used to the temperatures outside.
@aetris @Kidsandliz well that’s true. It’s hotter than blue blazes with extremely high humidity here and a girl i went to high school with who moved here from Alaska nearly died the first summer she was here.
A friend of mine from Montana was making fun of us for being off of work for two days for ice and snow. I said we don’t waste the money buying equipment for something that happens once every two years. Plus it’s usually gone almost as fast as we get it.
@ivannabc Yeah when I worked taking adjudicated youth canoeing across the state of FL (and we had no air conditioning there either), when staff would come down from Maine in the summer they’d be dying for for several weeks, drawing straws to see who’d get to sleep in the walk in cooler. Nope nope nope wouldn’t do that. Only makes it worse. Of course it also meant we needed to take a jacket with us any time we’d go into a store so we wouldn’t freeze.
I’ve often said, that if my MI based Retail Employer, ever decided to expand across the border into Southern Canukistan, I’d be one of the First to Volunteer to Transfer…
I’d move anywhere for a tolerable job that pays enough money. The last time I visited Canada, it was a two day drive around Lake Erie. I think the place is neat because it’s like an alternate universe - the terrain, weather and population are familiar but slightly different.
/image fringe TV show
@eonfifty When I was in school in Rochester, NY we’d go to Toronto for the day on occasion.
@Kidsandliz Did you ride the ferry? Is there still a ferry?
/image Rochester Toronto ferry
@eonfifty drove
For the right woman.
I have a hard enough time with the weather here, in relatively moderate DC. There is no way I’m moving further north for less than 7 figures, and even then I’m going to need 6 months of vacation time.
@dptalia Welcome to the term “snowbird”
@dptalia Canadian here. Ten days in Washington in May almost killed me, so it works both ways.
@PhotoJim okay, the humidity sucks. Phoenix rocks.
@dptalia @PhotoJim my great grandmother moved to Phoenix before i was born and i visited her once in nov. Even then it was 80F. I would die there.
@ivannabc @PhotoJim That’s why I want to move back there. I miss Phoenix.
So, is the Canadian version of this website Eh(sorry).
@rtjhnstn no, its soory-eh.com
(Note to self, register that domain and redirect to meh.) Or would it have to be a .ca?
@earlyre @rtjhnstn and that website is even available.
@earlyre Redirect? Sell!
Only if I could do it like my wife’s relatives. Toronto - May to September, Florida - October to April.
I grew up in So Cal, there’s no way I could tolerate the weather there. Though i I’ve been to Vancouver and it’s lovely. But it’s green and lush because it rains all the time.
@Fuzzalini i lived in socal for two years. Weather was glorious, food was amazing, but dear lord yall can keep that damned traffic!!!
@Fuzzalini @ivannabc and they can keep the air pollution too. I was in Riverside and didn’t even realize there were mountains behind that town due to the air pollution until it rained (which I gather is a rare event) and the air cleared up enough to see them.
Been there, done that. Too cold and much too liberal for me. Nice country though.
I already tried, they didn’t want me
I liberate meh.com stuff to Saskatchewan routinely. Thanks, Raymond, Montana USPS!
I do like to visit The Great White North, but if you think our govt is a mess start looking at what’s going on up there! I have a feeling there’s going to be the nicest uprising in the history of uprisings very soon as western provinces say “Enough is enough!”
I grew up right by the border and some of my best friends are Canadian. But the drivers…! The ones who zoom up behind you going 90 when everyone else is going 60…you know it’s a Canadian license plate before you even look at it… ugh.
@moonhat In CT that’s just another @#$% in a BMW. Doing less than 70 in the left lane will get you harassed in general.
@moonhat @TheFLP …that’s why it’s called the passing lane… same thing will happen in Europe.
@chienfou @moonhat @TheFLP
A driver is not supposed to block the left lane by law. At least in Tx. Or so is my understanding.
Even if the person behind them is a tool who wants to go 160mph.
But I do see asshole-bully-type drivers in a hurry abuse this during rush hour when no one is going anywhere fast. They will sometimes tailgate in the left lane, when the poor vehicle in front in them literally has no alternative place to go.
When someone tries that on me and it’s gridlock on the highway, I have developed the fine art of coasting.
But if I just want to go slower than the manic crazy driver behind me, and there is room in front of me or to the side, I’ll yeild and get out of the way.
I usually don’t reward aggressive tailgating tho.
@chienfou @f00l Most of our highways are still 55 mph, so it’s harder to justify some people’s behavior — you don’t need to be that much of a jerk. (Or so I try to remind myself when I’m the jerk doing 80
.)
Allegedly there’s a law against impeding traffic here too, but I don’t think it’s ever been enforced. Some of them seem to really enjoy it.
My younger relative was living in Boulder and making the big bux in IT.
And making even more playing online Texas Hold 'Em.
And the came the clampdown on internet gambling. So he quit his regular employment and moved to the general Vancouver area.
And now he plays poker online for a living. Doing very nicely, and loves living there.
@f00l I don’t know… leaving Boulder would have been very hard for me (in fact, it WAS very hard the first time… in 1977…)
@f00l I’m a pathetic poker player, so I can’t use that as an excuse. Much as I like Vancouver…
Maybe
I’ve actually seriously looked into it. My husband is currently in a PhD program here, so I’m not moving for a few years, but after that we’ll both be in career fields that give you a bump when applying for a visa.
I’ve lived just a few minutes south of the border before. I’m not enthusiastic about the weather, but that’s what tropical vacations are for. Or there’s Vancouver.
The correct spelling of Canada is CND. Just aska Canadian how to spell it. C, eh, N eh, D, eh.
/giphy CND
I like it in the 603!
Already moved to Canada. Pretty much right after the election. Except it was just because I’d gotten a job in Ottawa, not because of politics. Just cold, hard cash. Cash is plastic up here, now. No fooling. The bills are plastic. The first batch melted in dryers and got brittle and cracked in the cold. In the cold. Canada. Cold. Hah.
It’s actually pretty nice here, though, and holy-shit-how-is-this-possible level safe, but here are some detractors:
Housing prices utterly suck. I cannot stress how much suck it is. Milk in bags is just entirely wrong. Alcohol prices are outrageous (60 to 80 for a handle of Cap’n Morgan. Hell no). There is NO FREAKING MEXICAN FOOD.
Main plus: my shiny new baby is a dual citizen international baby of mystery. Heck yeah living vicariously through sprog.
The alcohol thing, though, is inexcusable, and why I now kind of like upstate New York.
No one should ever have to like upstate NY.