I Am Legend (also The Last Man on Earth and The Omega Man films based on the same novel) did not have any zombies. They did have ‘vampyres’ that were caused by a disease.
The vampyres/zombies/infected thought the immune ‘hero’ who went around hunting them down and killing them was the monster that they warned their children about. That kind of got lost in the two more recent films.
I think that for someone who is overweight, a heavy smoker, or has diabetes or other acute health issues, the Covid disease is more likely to turn them into a zombie than the vaccine would. I’ve completed my vaccination and hopefully have immunity now.
Throughout my life, I’ve had various inoculations and never got ill with whatever the target was. Nor have I grown a tail or been controlled by aliens.
The worst result I ever saw from a vaccination was in the Air Force when we were getting shots with an air gun from someone who had not had proper training. Several people had skin pulled off their arms. http://hcvets.com/data/occupational/munji/toc.htm
But that was not any fault of the vaccine.
I made sure my child got all his childhood shots; it’s now his choice whether to continue doing so.
@hammi99@phendrick I’ve had both of my jabs. No problems, no issues, not even much in the way of arm soreness (and you will be less sore if they keep far enough away from your shoulder joint - that holds true for any shot in your arm).
@phendrick Or turn them into something that now resides, permanently, in a box stored underground or in your living room depending on the size of the box needed. We are three and counting in my extended family on the box needed. Get vaccinated! The alternatives are potentially far worse.
By the way a study came out yesterday that Pfizer does a reasonably decent job on the UK, Brazilian and South African variant too - not as good as the version it was designed for but decent enough that that it should help significantly. And it reduces transmission of the virus by the person vaccinated by 84 or 87 point something or other percent (without looking at the article I can’t I can’t remember the exact number - in either case it does a good job with that).
@phendrick I work in a lab where sciency things occur for relevant issues, so we landed in the 1A group. I’ve had the two Moderna shots… the first one wrecked me for two days… second shot wasn’t too bad. Just severe fatigue for a day. My colleagues had mixed results. My wife is a teacher and recently got the Janssen shot. She gave me crap and said she didn’t feel anything. And then in the middle of the night she got violently ill with a high fever. I don’t think she was out of bed for more than 10 minutes the next day. I don’t think she’ll play that card again That said, this is an emergency use vaccine and it will be interesting to see what the actual efficacy is when it hits the general population. My 12 gauge is loaded for any of you who develop a craving for brains. edit - just remember this is not a bullet proof shield. It is something to help your body prepare for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. You CAN still get it and spread it.
@capnjb Hunh! I had to look up the “Janssen” shot you referred to, only to find it’s the one referred to around here as the “Johnson & Johnson” shot. That’s the one I got this past Saturday.
My experience with it was pretty mild. Seemed more painful than I’m used to a shot being when I got stuck, but maybe they put it in deeper? Other than that, no problems. No burning, no throbbing, etc. I waited my fifteen minutes then drove home, loaded up with freebies that HEB gave – water, orange juice, a greenish banana, a small orange (I guess that’s still in my fridge, now that I think about it), a bag of their brand chips, a small bottle of their hand sanitizer. I was expecting a sore arm/shoulder from what I’d been hearing, but the only soreness I had was in my other shoulder! That was probably from my walking my dog – she takes off with a jerk in a random direction with no notice.
I had had a regular flu shot about a month or two ago, and that left a noticeable soreness in my arm when I lay on it for sleeping. But nothing from this J&J shot.
In fact, I’ve been wondering if they didn’t maybe slip in a placebo for me – hope not!
The only possible after-effect was that for the next couple of days I seemed to get drowsier than usual, but that might have just been from my bad sleeping habits. In fact, I had had only about four and a half hours sleep before I drove out of town to get the J&J shot.
I guess everybody reacts according to their own DNA and immune systems. Your wife might have been randomly unlucky in that. Hope she is all right now.
Something else I’ve been wondering about: I’m in the high risk group because of both age and previous medical history so was quite concerned back in the spring when all the horror stories were coming out and every day something seemed to contradict previous medical advice (masks, virus persistence on surfaces, e.g.). My lawyer is early middle age and when we were stuck for several hours in the middle of a hearing back in May, we were talking about the virus and we found we had both had the same idea: There was a lot of talk of virus load being one of the determining factors in how the body reacted to a Covid infection, so we had each had the thought to socially distance, but not completely, aiming for very scant exposures, in an effort to coax the body into an immune response. I did my own shopping, talked to cashiers, went to mostly empty church services, passed people in the aisles in WalMart, etc., but all with masks in place; otherwise no close social gatherings, only with my adult son. And have been doing that since May.
I often thought about getting one of the free virus tests, but never did. I always wondered if I had perhaps built up some immunity from mild exposures. But I don’t believe the swab testing answered about any antigens.
My lawyer? He came down with Covid back in December. Said he had a miserable several days but thinks he got through it OK.
I just hope I now have sufficient immunity one way or another, along with the rest of the cattle.
@gt0163c Are you kidding? Two weeks after I was fully vaccinated, I discovered that I could pee in a Mobil station’s restroom without quaking in my boots. (Still wearing a mask, of course.) That, my friend, is a 2021 super power!
So, my four young, healthy children (3 in their 20’s, 1 mid-30’s) have all been vaccinated (because of special rules regarding the circumstances of their jobs/positions). I am happy for them and don’t begrudge their priority/status.
Meanwhile this state’s eligibility rules for the group my wife and I fall in (60-64, no ‘special’ circumstances/occupation) was just bumped from being eligible right about now to after the 1st of June. All seems a bit arbitrary.
Especially since last weekend, our (D)-bag governor (who is in the same age/eligibility group as my wife and I) had a photo-op of her being vaccinated (as if anyone really believes that she wasn’t first in line when the vaccine became available - this jab was probably just a vitamin shot). And, for some reason, she traveled all the way from the capitol to a small clinic in my rural county for the show. Really too bad she didn’t go just a little farther down the highway and see the huge “F*CK KATE BROWN” banner someone has hung across their fence.
@macromeh I feel your pain. Really! I’m 70 and I am signed up somewhere on a long, long list waiting to get an appointment for my first shot, which I may get before the end of April, if I’m lucky. Meanwhile, the list of eligible recipients keeps growing, and somehow a bunch newly added to the eligible list keep getting appointments ahead of me. Same for my 85-year-old brother, who is also waiting for a first shot while some of his grandchildren have already been fully vaccinated. I think the only bright spots in this is that some herd immunity does seem to be kicking in and new cases are dropping; plus I hope that by the time I do get an appointment, the J&J vaccine will be here and I’ll only need the one shot.
@rockblossom My wife’s mom (86) and step-dad (94) just got their second shots last weekend, which was a big relief. They were the family’s biggest concern (even though they are reasonably healthy for their age). My wife and I are actually not terribly concerned for ourselves - we are both pretty healthy (no underlying conditions) and live in a rural area with low infection/death numbers and stay mostly isolated out in the sticks.
Hope all goes well for you and your family.
@macromeh@rockblossom
unfortunately some states, party in power not withstanding, are doing a crap job on distribution, well more crap than the rest of the world
Couple of our coworkers had bad reactions to the first shot. Substantial pain in their arm, one with significant swelling that took two days to come down. Both got +3 to 4 degree fevers for a day, and fatigue. Hopefully their shot 2 won’t be as bad.
I’m a month out from my 2nd Moderna shot, no issues with either jab aside from sore arm for a couple of days.
So far, no evidence that I’m any more of a zombie than I was before vaccination. But now, I am being tracked and my DNA is being re-sequenced, if those count as side effects…
My wife and I got our first shot about 3 weeks ago and will get our second one this coming Thursday and no side effects other than the urge to drink each others blood.
We were lucky enough to get ours because of our zip code was one of two that Gov DeDumbass and our butt kissing county commissioner decided were white, rich and Republican enough to deserve special treatment. It made the national news.
So here’s an article that says that contrary to the vaccine turning us into zombies, it’s the Covid virus that’s doing it! 🦠 It’s a longish read, but very interesting: https://www.inverse.com/science/coronavirus-unsick
I Am Legend (also The Last Man on Earth and The Omega Man films based on the same novel) did not have any zombies. They did have ‘vampyres’ that were caused by a disease.
@yakkoTDI And the plot twist at the end of the original I Am Legend novel was:
The vampyres/zombies/infected thought the immune ‘hero’ who went around hunting them down and killing them was the monster that they warned their children about. That kind of got lost in the two more recent films.
Will Captcha turn us into robots?
Please realize CAPTCHA is a fellow robot like you.
I think that for someone who is overweight, a heavy smoker, or has diabetes or other acute health issues, the Covid disease is more likely to turn them into a zombie than the vaccine would. I’ve completed my vaccination and hopefully have immunity now.
Throughout my life, I’ve had various inoculations and never got ill with whatever the target was. Nor have I grown a tail or been controlled by aliens.
The worst result I ever saw from a vaccination was in the Air Force when we were getting shots with an air gun from someone who had not had proper training. Several people had skin pulled off their arms.
http://hcvets.com/data/occupational/munji/toc.htm
But that was not any fault of the vaccine.
I made sure my child got all his childhood shots; it’s now his choice whether to continue doing so.
YMMV. As well as your opinion.
@phendrick Well said! I’ve got my first jab, awaiting second jab. Probably need booster shot with variants, so all in!
@hammi99 @phendrick I’ve had both of my jabs. No problems, no issues, not even much in the way of arm soreness (and you will be less sore if they keep far enough away from your shoulder joint - that holds true for any shot in your arm).
@phendrick Or turn them into something that now resides, permanently, in a box stored underground or in your living room depending on the size of the box needed. We are three and counting in my extended family on the box needed. Get vaccinated! The alternatives are potentially far worse.
By the way a study came out yesterday that Pfizer does a reasonably decent job on the UK, Brazilian and South African variant too - not as good as the version it was designed for but decent enough that that it should help significantly. And it reduces transmission of the virus by the person vaccinated by 84 or 87 point something or other percent (without looking at the article I can’t I can’t remember the exact number - in either case it does a good job with that).
@phendrick I work in a lab where sciency things occur for relevant issues, so we landed in the 1A group. I’ve had the two Moderna shots… the first one wrecked me for two days… second shot wasn’t too bad. Just severe fatigue for a day. My colleagues had mixed results. My wife is a teacher and recently got the Janssen shot. She gave me crap and said she didn’t feel anything. And then in the middle of the night she got violently ill with a high fever. I don’t think she was out of bed for more than 10 minutes the next day. I don’t think she’ll play that card again
That said, this is an emergency use vaccine and it will be interesting to see what the actual efficacy is when it hits the general population. My 12 gauge is loaded for any of you who develop a craving for brains. 
edit - just remember this is not a bullet proof shield. It is something to help your body prepare for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. You CAN still get it and spread it.
@capnjb Hunh! I had to look up the “Janssen” shot you referred to, only to find it’s the one referred to around here as the “Johnson & Johnson” shot. That’s the one I got this past Saturday.
My experience with it was pretty mild. Seemed more painful than I’m used to a shot being when I got stuck, but maybe they put it in deeper? Other than that, no problems. No burning, no throbbing, etc. I waited my fifteen minutes then drove home, loaded up with freebies that HEB gave – water, orange juice, a greenish banana, a small orange (I guess that’s still in my fridge, now that I think about it), a bag of their brand chips, a small bottle of their hand sanitizer. I was expecting a sore arm/shoulder from what I’d been hearing, but the only soreness I had was in my other shoulder! That was probably from my walking my dog – she takes off with a jerk in a random direction with no notice.
I had had a regular flu shot about a month or two ago, and that left a noticeable soreness in my arm when I lay on it for sleeping. But nothing from this J&J shot.
In fact, I’ve been wondering if they didn’t maybe slip in a placebo for me – hope not!
The only possible after-effect was that for the next couple of days I seemed to get drowsier than usual, but that might have just been from my bad sleeping habits. In fact, I had had only about four and a half hours sleep before I drove out of town to get the J&J shot.
I guess everybody reacts according to their own DNA and immune systems. Your wife might have been randomly unlucky in that. Hope she is all right now.
Something else I’ve been wondering about: I’m in the high risk group because of both age and previous medical history so was quite concerned back in the spring when all the horror stories were coming out and every day something seemed to contradict previous medical advice (masks, virus persistence on surfaces, e.g.). My lawyer is early middle age and when we were stuck for several hours in the middle of a hearing back in May, we were talking about the virus and we found we had both had the same idea: There was a lot of talk of virus load being one of the determining factors in how the body reacted to a Covid infection, so we had each had the thought to socially distance, but not completely, aiming for very scant exposures, in an effort to coax the body into an immune response. I did my own shopping, talked to cashiers, went to mostly empty church services, passed people in the aisles in WalMart, etc., but all with masks in place; otherwise no close social gatherings, only with my adult son. And have been doing that since May.
I often thought about getting one of the free virus tests, but never did. I always wondered if I had perhaps built up some immunity from mild exposures. But I don’t believe the swab testing answered about any antigens.
My lawyer? He came down with Covid back in December. Said he had a miserable several days but thinks he got through it OK.
I just hope I now have sufficient immunity one way or another, along with the rest of the cattle.
@phendrick
Checks out: Sounds like something being controlled by aliens would say.
Why would “will vaccines” turn us into zombies… and what is a “will vaccine”?
@chienfou Maybe it suppresses free will and leaves you more subject to manipulation.
@chienfou A “Will vaccine” is when you’re injected with nothing and fight off viruses through pure force of will.
@DoctorOW
(Noun) see also: placebo…
It could be a new way for Dalek’s to exterminate us…maybe…
@AuntMean67 Maybe!
I was hoping the vaccine would give me super powers. Sadly that doesn’t seem like it’s the case. Sigh
@gt0163c Are you kidding? Two weeks after I was fully vaccinated, I discovered that I could pee in a Mobil station’s restroom without quaking in my boots. (Still wearing a mask, of course.) That, my friend, is a 2021 super power!
@Ambiverbal @gt0163c Let’s pee everywhere!
@zinimusprime
@gt0163c OMG. after the 1st shot I am better able to connect with all my computers!
@Ambiverbal @gt0163c @zinimusprime
I’m a male… that’s a given!
It didn’t turn me into any more or less of a zombie than I already was. That thought probably shouldn’t be comforting to anyone.
For some reason, I lately wish I’d left some room in my fridge for brains, though…
But 28 days between the shots? Wonder what will happen 28 weeks and 28 months later?
KuoH
So, my four young, healthy children (3 in their 20’s, 1 mid-30’s) have all been vaccinated (because of special rules regarding the circumstances of their jobs/positions). I am happy for them and don’t begrudge their priority/status.
Meanwhile this state’s eligibility rules for the group my wife and I fall in (60-64, no ‘special’ circumstances/occupation) was just bumped from being eligible right about now to after the 1st of June. All seems a bit arbitrary.
Especially since last weekend, our (D)-bag governor (who is in the same age/eligibility group as my wife and I) had a photo-op of her being vaccinated (as if anyone really believes that she wasn’t first in line when the vaccine became available - this jab was probably just a vitamin shot). And, for some reason, she traveled all the way from the capitol to a small clinic in my rural county for the show. Really too bad she didn’t go just a little farther down the highway and see the huge “F*CK KATE BROWN” banner someone has hung across their fence.
@macromeh I feel your pain. Really! I’m 70 and I am signed up somewhere on a long, long list waiting to get an appointment for my first shot, which I may get before the end of April, if I’m lucky. Meanwhile, the list of eligible recipients keeps growing, and somehow a bunch newly added to the eligible list keep getting appointments ahead of me. Same for my 85-year-old brother, who is also waiting for a first shot while some of his grandchildren have already been fully vaccinated. I think the only bright spots in this is that some herd immunity does seem to be kicking in and new cases are dropping; plus I hope that by the time I do get an appointment, the J&J vaccine will be here and I’ll only need the one shot.
@rockblossom My wife’s mom (86) and step-dad (94) just got their second shots last weekend, which was a big relief. They were the family’s biggest concern (even though they are reasonably healthy for their age). My wife and I are actually not terribly concerned for ourselves - we are both pretty healthy (no underlying conditions) and live in a rural area with low infection/death numbers and stay mostly isolated out in the sticks.
Hope all goes well for you and your family.
@macromeh @rockblossom
unfortunately some states, party in power not withstanding, are doing a crap job on distribution, well more crap than the rest of the world
@rockblossom
Not sure I like the immunity stats from the J&J, though something is better than nothing.
What do you mean “turn”?
You sound like becoming a zombie is a bad thing.
Couple of our coworkers had bad reactions to the first shot. Substantial pain in their arm, one with significant swelling that took two days to come down. Both got +3 to 4 degree fevers for a day, and fatigue. Hopefully their shot 2 won’t be as bad.
@duodec
It sounds like it’s working, then…producing antibodies.
I’m a month out from my 2nd Moderna shot, no issues with either jab aside from sore arm for a couple of days.
So far, no evidence that I’m any more of a zombie than I was before vaccination. But now, I am being tracked and my DNA is being re-sequenced, if those count as side effects…
@robson Not until I find a use for that information.
My wife and I got our first shot about 3 weeks ago and will get our second one this coming Thursday and no side effects other than the urge to drink each others blood.
We were lucky enough to get ours because of our zip code was one of two that Gov DeDumbass and our butt kissing county commissioner decided were white, rich and Republican enough to deserve special treatment. It made the national news.
I got vaccinated and there are no side-effects. These brains taste as good as ever.
@PocketBrain
Go vegan…
So here’s an article that says that contrary to the vaccine turning us into zombies, it’s the Covid virus that’s doing it! 🦠
It’s a longish read, but very interesting: https://www.inverse.com/science/coronavirus-unsick