OK, who’s the woodworker/survivalist who thought the panda planner was the best thing ever and spread it on their super specialized forums and had 2 people buy it?
@yakkoTDI Bushcraft is a forum site for folks who like to (or may be required to) do backcountry outdoors stuff, and while there are survivalist types on it, there are also recreational hikers, photographers, and many others whose reasons for being in such areas have nothing to do with paranoia or generalized misanthropy.
To clean his lathe spindle John Herning
Inserted while it was still turning
A finger, alack, which he didn’t get back.
To manage with nine he’s now learning.
Workshop Wisdom from an issue of Popular Science magazine circa 1952.
@Limewater I once had a bowl fly off the lathe at high speed, careen across the basement and smack into the furnace. I walked over, picked it up, thanked it for not killing me and got back to work.
@capnjb@Limewater I like that face shield. I like it a lot. All of mine are basically junk at this point due to long disuse, so I need to get new ones now that I can get to the Shopsmith again. (I need a new welding helmet and several pairs of gloves, too.)
@Limewater@werehatrack Yeah, there is a lot of room and it’s easily adjustable at the back of the head. It flips up and down without issue. I’ve had this one for almost 5 years and for an inexpensive, effective face shield, I’d give it a thumbs up. Something I’d have no problem buying again. Especially at the price.
@blaineg@chienfou I actually know exactly where it should be. It’s on a nail to the right interior of the garage door, next to the 2x4 shelves I wacked together a few years ago. Shelves May be visible on the left of some metro pics. If it weren’t on that nail it would be on the shelf full of protective gear.
Most likely I bought it from Slickdeals or here or just thinking I should have a face shield and arrived at the same conclusion as others.
That would have been after using cutoff discs on an angle grinder in… Questionable manners under the car. But I haven’t had to repeat it since. So it’s not been used. My biggest concern would be a disc fragmenting.
Nothing fancy like a lathe. But I thought let’s check it compared and… Well it is what I bought.
I have a separate helmet/ear muffs/screen visor for the chainsaw if needed.
@chienfou strangely enough I prefer to stay out of the ER. Or maybe not be lectured about it by my mom who was a nurse or my sister who is. Never been. Like to keep it that way. Although I’m sure you’re lovely, I’m sure you don’t need the extra work. Especially considering how overworked things have been
@blaineg@capnjb@Limewater@werehatrack
Great looking does not mean great functioning though. Maybe we should ask project farm. Some reviews of PPE would give him lots to do. Even if he can’t duplicate the ANSI spec test… Might be interesting. I think you’d have to duplicate a high speed spun sharp object though
@capnjb@Limewater@unksol@werehatrack I’m not worried about function, Uvex has been in the business a long time, and it meets ANSI Z87 and CSA Z94.3 standards.
@blaineg@capnjb@Limewater@unksol Project Farm did a test of safety glasses a while back, and he came up with some pretty good criteria. He usually does, he’s pretty damn sharp. And he’s amazingly clever at figuring out how to test things.
We’re still waiting on the lumber for the second floor and the floors are getting coated with a flake and polyaspartic treatment. There will also be a full bathroom with a walk in shower so the dogs get baths outside the house. The second room in the wood shop area will be a spray room vented out so I don’t choke out the building with fumes.
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We still have a ton of work to do but it’s finally up and insurance actually paid out which I was gobsmacked by. I didn’t think they were going to but the Englishman was determined.
@Kyeh absolutely! It’s going to be about 14-1500 sqft when we’re done. Office and studio upstairs. Woodshop, kiln, finishing room and bathroom downstairs.
@sillyheathen@unksol It’s the way rich people talk - “Oh, just going up to the shack for the weekend.” “Where’s the shack?” “In the Hamptons.”
So what did insurance pay for - was the original shed flood damaged or something?
@Kyeh@unksol I assure you we are far from rich. Thankfully insurance covered it or it would’ve been a literal shed that was smaller than the first. Insurance wound up paying more than I ever expected because it was an actual stick built building with insulation and walls. The cedar siding wasn’t in the best condition and by the time I moved into it, I kind of liked that it looked like “the murder shed”.
We did take a bit out of savings so we could add the second floor. We both work out of the house so now we will have dedicated office space and we regain the garage and a guest room. It is going to be massive but the wood shop will mean we can actually make furniture and pieces without wanting to scream as we currently make everything in the garage.
Those always seemed like a good option since you can just get the shell up and insulated and everything else inside is just interior walls you can stand up/configure as needed. Can make a nice country house that way too.
Don’t think id seen one with steel framing instead of wood though
@Kyeh@unksol essentially yes. We were originally going to go with a traditional pole barn but had a really hard time dealing with contractors in our area in regards to just getting quotes and schedule. We found a local guy who specializes in steel. It wound up having a better warranty and was less expensive than the pole barns.
@Kyeh@sillyheathen although. I guess you could just let it be the shell. Nothing stopping heavy framing/a gluelam beam. Or an I beam. Although might want footers for that… Should plan ahead if doing heavy lifts…
@Kyeh@unksol we just went over the second floor plan with the engineer and are ordering the wood pack now. Still not on what we’re cladding downstairs walls with but everything will be tidy and finished. I kind of wanted to leave the beams downstairs exposed for the ceiling downstairs but the Englishman doesn’t agree.
Not sure where you get the idea for woodworking or survivaling from but I am now curious about that pubic hair website at the top of the list.
@yakkoTDI
/showme a goat shaped curly topiary
@yakkoTDI Bushcraft is a forum site for folks who like to (or may be required to) do backcountry outdoors stuff, and while there are survivalist types on it, there are also recreational hikers, photographers, and many others whose reasons for being in such areas have nothing to do with paranoia or generalized misanthropy.
Well I do have a lathe, pew pews and a bunch of solar powered stuff, but that wasn’t me.
I do need to get back on the lathe… it’s been too long. 
@capnjb very nice
@capnjb
Workshop Wisdom from an issue of Popular Science magazine circa 1952.
@Limewater I once had a bowl fly off the lathe at high speed, careen across the basement and smack into the furnace. I walked over, picked it up, thanked it for not killing me and got back to work.
Safety third!
@capnjb @Limewater sounds like a likely scenario for this picture circa late 2020
@capnjb @Limewater I like that face shield. I like it a lot. All of mine are basically junk at this point due to long disuse, so I need to get new ones now that I can get to the Shopsmith again. (I need a new welding helmet and several pairs of gloves, too.)
@Limewater @werehatrack It’s actually dropped in price since I bought it. It’s not expensive. It’s only like $30 now. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001VY3ACE/
Wouldn’t weld with it though
@capnjb @Limewater I’d happily use it with welding glasses when doing oxy-acetylene stuff, but it’s very much unsuited to arc.
@Limewater @werehatrack Yeah, there is a lot of room and it’s easily adjustable at the back of the head. It flips up and down without issue. I’ve had this one for almost 5 years and for an inexpensive, effective face shield, I’d give it a thumbs up. Something I’d have no problem buying again. Especially at the price.
@capnjb @Limewater @werehatrack I thought: That’s a great looking shield, I should buy one.
Amazon said: You did, in 2017.
@blaineg @Limewater @werehatrack Hah! Amazon is my bookkeeper too
I used to shop there when they were just a big online bookstore 
@blaineg @capnjb @Limewater @werehatrack lol I was going to add it to saved cart for later. Bought in 2021.
@blaineg r @unksol
It appears there may be some safety issues around your workspaces if you bought them but have no idea where they are!
@blaineg @chienfou I actually know exactly where it should be. It’s on a nail to the right interior of the garage door, next to the 2x4 shelves I wacked together a few years ago. Shelves May be visible on the left of some metro pics. If it weren’t on that nail it would be on the shelf full of protective gear.
Most likely I bought it from Slickdeals or here or just thinking I should have a face shield and arrived at the same conclusion as others.
That would have been after using cutoff discs on an angle grinder in… Questionable manners under the car. But I haven’t had to repeat it since. So it’s not been used. My biggest concern would be a disc fragmenting.
Nothing fancy like a lathe. But I thought let’s check it compared and… Well it is what I bought.
I have a separate helmet/ear muffs/screen visor for the chainsaw if needed.
@unksol
As an ER nurse I applaud your diligence!
@chienfou strangely enough I prefer to stay out of the ER. Or maybe not be lectured about it by my mom who was a nurse or my sister who is. Never been. Like to keep it that way. Although I’m sure you’re lovely, I’m sure you don’t need the extra work. Especially considering how overworked things have been
@blaineg @capnjb @Limewater @werehatrack
Great looking does not mean great functioning though. Maybe we should ask project farm. Some reviews of PPE would give him lots to do. Even if he can’t duplicate the ANSI spec test… Might be interesting. I think you’d have to duplicate a high speed spun sharp object though
@blaineg @capnjb @Limewater @unksol @werehatrack
Ninja throwing stars??
@chienfou @unksol Oh, I know where it is: top shelf of the back room. I just didn’t remember it was this one.
@capnjb @Limewater @unksol @werehatrack I’m not worried about function, Uvex has been in the business a long time, and it meets ANSI Z87 and CSA Z94.3 standards.
@capnjb @Limewater @unksol @werehatrack Project Farm is great. One of a very few I support with Patreon.
@blaineg @capnjb @Limewater @unksol Project Farm did a test of safety glasses a while back, and he came up with some pretty good criteria. He usually does, he’s pretty damn sharp. And he’s amazingly clever at figuring out how to test things.
@capnjb
That’s the next piece for my new less murdery shed shop.
@capnjb @sillyheathen So let’s see some pics of the new less murdery shed shop!
@capnjb @Kyeh comin right up!
@capnjb @Kyeh @sillyheathen I mean. Yes. But. I want to see the pics of the murdery shed shop
@capnjb @Kyeh @unksol I killied it dead. And put the new shop up on top. But I will see if I have any photos of it from before.
@capnjb @Kyeh @unksol
@capnjb @Kyeh @sillyheathen it doesn’t look THAT murdery.
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Introducing the new shiny less murdery shed!
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We’re still waiting on the lumber for the second floor and the floors are getting coated with a flake and polyaspartic treatment. There will also be a full bathroom with a walk in shower so the dogs get baths outside the house.
The second room in the wood shop area will be a spray room vented out so I don’t choke out the building with fumes.
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We still have a ton of work to do but it’s finally up and insurance actually paid out which I was gobsmacked by. I didn’t think they were going to but the Englishman was determined.
@sillyheathen OMG. That’s enormous! I hope you post updates as it develops.
@Kyeh absolutely! It’s going to be about 14-1500 sqft when we’re done. Office and studio upstairs. Woodshop, kiln, finishing room and bathroom downstairs.
@sillyheathen
That’s almost as big as my entire house!
@Kyeh @sillyheathen that is quiet large. Idk that shed is the correct term. That’s a full on workshop space if that’s how your going to use it.
@sillyheathen @unksol It’s the way rich people talk - “Oh, just going up to the shack for the weekend.” “Where’s the shack?” “In the Hamptons.”
So what did insurance pay for - was the original shed flood damaged or something?
@Kyeh @unksol I assure you we are far from rich.
Thankfully insurance covered it or it would’ve been a literal shed that was smaller than the first. Insurance wound up paying more than I ever expected because it was an actual stick built building with insulation and walls. The cedar siding wasn’t in the best condition and by the time I moved into it, I kind of liked that it looked like “the murder shed”.
We did take a bit out of savings so we could add the second floor. We both work out of the house so now we will have dedicated office space and we regain the garage and a guest room. It is going to be massive but the wood shop will mean we can actually make furniture and pieces without wanting to scream as we currently make everything in the garage.
@sillyheathen @unksol Well, it does look like it’s going to be fantastic. Please keep posting updates!
@Kyeh @sillyheathen some sort of version of a steel framed pole barn?
Those always seemed like a good option since you can just get the shell up and insulated and everything else inside is just interior walls you can stand up/configure as needed. Can make a nice country house that way too.
Don’t think id seen one with steel framing instead of wood though
@Kyeh @unksol essentially yes. We were originally going to go with a traditional pole barn but had a really hard time dealing with contractors in our area in regards to just getting quotes and schedule. We found a local guy who specializes in steel. It wound up having a better warranty and was less expensive than the pole barns.
@Kyeh @sillyheathen it looks very nice. I wonder what those beams are rated for load? You know if you had to hang a ton or two off one
Hoisting out an engine is usualy only half a ton. Just… Curious I guess lol
@Kyeh @sillyheathen although. I guess you could just let it be the shell. Nothing stopping heavy framing/a gluelam beam. Or an I beam. Although might want footers for that… Should plan ahead if doing heavy lifts…
@Kyeh @unksol we just went over the second floor plan with the engineer and are ordering the wood pack now. Still not
on what we’re cladding downstairs walls with but everything will be tidy and finished. I kind of wanted to leave the beams downstairs exposed for the ceiling downstairs but the Englishman doesn’t agree. 
@Kyeh @sillyheathen I think seeing the beams of anything is cool. But. Engineer wins
@Kyeh @unksol well he’s not an engineer. He’s just moody. Engineer doesn’t give two tosses if we skim them.
I’m waiting until @carl669 gets settled in before I send the box of mediocre fuckery. There will definitely be something fun for a housewarming gift.