@Pavlov They don't make that size monitor for your main monitor. You probably have a 2x2 setup, but that is not a "main monitor." Mine is 3840x2160. I am surprised they did not include that in the survey.
@ArcaneOracle Hmm. Guess I should return this Sharp prototype to the guys at Pixar that sent it to me because it can't possibly exist. Nah, I think I'll keep right on using it 'till they want it back. (And before you ask, yes, they also lent several of their proprietary video cards which are built on the NVIDIA OptiX platform)
@Pavlov So, how usable for everyday computing is it? I imagine videos are fine, but lots of programs seem to have issues at high resolutions, and high DPIs? Also, what do they call 8k resolution?
@dashcloud It pretty much sucks for anything other than running the ray-tracing program that Pixar supplied but Avid Media Composer using the new DNxHR codec runs like a freaking banshee and is stable. The monitor is stamped "Super Hi-Vision" but I don't think that will be what it is called when it comes to market. Everyone around here refers to it as FUHD in emails with the guys back in Emeryville. If you bump it down to 4k and boot into Linux most everything I use from day to day is stable.
i don't have a monitor. the only way i can use my main computer is to remote in from another computer. it's obvious i could resolve my issue by buying today's deal. however, i currently don't have the cash. damn you @narfcake.
@wishod@Lazarpandar That card renders animation in Maya with almost no lag at 4K - some people actually use a computer for more than gaming and the Internet.
@Pavlov Cool story bro. I hope many professionals read your comment and educate themselves. in the mean time 98% of people would rather talk about consumer graphics cards.
@Pavlov thank God meh.com takes so little space on your 8k monitor you can render real time 4k Maya animation for Disney and troll peasants at forums at the same time.
@wishod Yeah, my life would be so empty if I didn't troll the peasants on meh (end sarcasm).
As many here know, I am co-owner of a decent little media company. I'm such a giant dick that I can't count how many times I didn't take a paycheck so I could make sure the people that work for me could go home and pay their mortgage and feed their families (whom, by the way, all had health insurance before Obamacare) while I sank deeper in debt and put it all on the line. There were a fuck load of lean months and a lot of people that made a hell of a lot more than I did working at my own company (for a hell of a long time).
@Pavlov Fascinating, too, that you specifically spelled out in your comment that it's doable if you can/will pay for it. People get agitated over some seriously stupid shit.
My saying it was a matter of economics had nothing to do with my pocketbook and everything to do with the current state of the market. There are consumer / gaming cards that are eminently adequate to push 4K, the same pricing disparity exists. As it is with most all things, you pay to play at the high end of the market.
@Pavlov Sorry if I was unclear — I think it's weird for people to act like you're an asshole for suggesting it when you clearly stated it's attainable, but at a cost.
@brhfl The reason he's an asshole is because he linked a product that solves problems less than 1% of people looking for a graphics card are trying to solve. A Radeon 295x2 would have MORE than 2x the gaming performance for less than half the price.
@Lazarpandar You're a complete and total fucking douchebag. You're not even the OP. The OP didn't specify consumer or gaming or 3D capable card, they said push 4K. Pavlov replied with not only a video card that will push 4K but one that will do so to multiple monitors, simultaneously, if you bothered to read the specs. And he makes a good point, that to push 4K you've got to basically choose to pay for it through the ass or choose to wait. He's not wrong. You on the other hand are acting like a whiny cunt and you've added nothing to the conversation. Had you said "Hey, that's a cool card but do you have a recommend for a gaming card" he very well might have come back with a solid. Pavlov adds value and humor to this place and he shares his knowledge on those things he knows cold and he isn't at all elitist. Hell, he gives away a fuku worth at least $100 or more just for the fun of doing it in a contest. I don't see you doing anything other than being a complete little bitch.
@trippymeh Okay I was really not expect this much hate so lemme bring us back from name calling and make a few closing points: 1.) Personally I don't think that it's relevant that Pavlov is a super nice guy that gives away fuku bags. 2.) I don't think the multiple monitor comment is relevant either because the entire thread is about a person's main display. 3.) There are many cards that can push 4k resolution for significantly less than the card that Pavlov linked, and in fact my entire issue with the linking of a super expensive workstation graphics card was that it looked like he just found the most expensive card he could without bothering to think about use cases and cost efficiency. Clearly I was wrong on the first bit, my apologies. To summarize my entire point, when people talk about graphics cards on forums that are not dedicated to professional graphics work or workstation graphics cards, they are almost always talking about consumer graphics for rendering video games, this fact is inarguable. When a person links a graphics card for "pushing 4k resolution" that is not only a workstation gpu but extremely expensive one of two conclusions can be drawn. A) That person has no idea what they're talking about or B) That person is out of touch with the majority of the market. I assumed A, but clearly it's B. Look Pavlov, I get that you do professional graphics work that requires this kind of stuff and I'm sorry that I assumed that you don't know what you're talking about, but you can't honestly tell me that you thought that it was more likely that ComputerMD82 was looking to "render animation in Maya with almost no lag at 4k" rather than to simply play video games at 4k resolutions. Assuming the former was pretentious, and this concludes my argument.
@Lazarpandar The blame completely rests on the shoulders of @narfcake (whose name I apparently misspelled in my drunk yacht posting early this morning, which may be the most tragic thing so far in this entire exchange as the image of the Royal goat was a good pull IMO).
@Lazarpandar or as was suggested, @Lazarpandafucker 1.) What you expect and what you get are directly proportional to your douchebaggery. 2.) Closing points? I guess you're running away taking a parting shot? Coward. 3.) I don't care what your personal feelings are, fact is Pavlov has a track record for being cool while you have a track record of? (Hint: the answer will have the word douchebag in it). 4.) The multiple monitor comment is absolutely relevant as proven once again, you can't or choose not to actually read. The card he linked to will push 4K to a single monitor (or 4K to multiple monitors at the same time). 5.) Yes, there are many cards for less, don't see you adding value to the discussion and linking to a single one, you just have an issue to the one which was linked to. 6.) When you're wrong, you're epically wrong. 7.) An inarguable fact? Yeah, riiiiiight. Bullshit. 8.) There are quite a few more than 2 conclusions that might be drawn. The entire problem with you is that all you did was sit in your underwear in your mother's basement and draw conclusions and be a douche. 9.) Still have yet to read a valid argument, all I see is just you making excuses for your continued douchebaggery. 10.) I have no idea why @Pavlov hasn't sliced and diced you, but I have a lot more respect for him for not doing it and blaming it all on the goat of the month. Class move. Every time you type, you show you have none. Dick move. And finally, if I throw a bone will you chase it and go away? I swear to sweet baby Jesus your mother dropped you on your head cause you just don't (can't) get it. Here's hoping the OP comes back and thanks Pavlov for the recommend. That'd be the icing on the fucking cake.
@Lazarpandar Take a long hard look at what you've written above. You out of the blue call another member an asshole for no good reason. You pretentiously call another member pretentious. Then you call him an asshole yet again. And you admittedly make assumptions and draw conclusions that not only are completely wrong, but reveal you're a douche. And then have the balls to say I'm toxic. The whole mirror shit is so Jr. High. I'm just throwing it back at you. Pot meet kettle, motherfucker.
@trippymeh@Lazarpandar both of you seem to have gotten the points you wanted to make across, so how about we end this little tiff here. In the future make sure to keep Wheaton's Law in mind. I'm too old to babysit.
@Noremac258 The 1600x1200 is a medium-high end commercial monitor; the 1920x1200, while better than the 16x9 "High definition" toys that superseded it, just doesn't have the same image quality.
I used to use a 1600x1200 CRT, but it was fucking heavy and hard to move, and then Meh sold a 23" monitor at 1920x1080. It's so much smaller and lighter that I decided it was worth switching to a lower resolution.
@Dweezle Losing vertical resolution sucks more than losing horizontal up to a point. My 1600x1200 flat panel replaced a 21" 1600x1200 Diamondtron CRT that weighed almost 85 pounds (it was a high end workstation monitor); compared to that even a heavy flat panel is a featherweight.
Whole lotta people missed the 'main' part in the question. I do have a smaller old 1440x900 vga monitor to the left and a 1080p tv up on my dresser, purely for video, but the main is a 28" 1920x1200
My main monitor at work is a 2560x1440, but I have two really oddball monitors as well setup in portrait mode instead of landscape, they're 1152x2048 each in that configuration. Good for writing code. At home, I just have two 1920x1080, configured so that my desktop resolution is 1920x2160. Top monitor can be swapped between the PC second monitor and various game systems.
@grum Thanks. And for less than $200 (at $194) I should have bought it. I wonder why I didn't. Maybe the opportunity will come around again in the future.
@cengland0 You could get one of the small 4k TVs- people used Seiki's 4k TVs as monitors. Monoprice also makes a line mid-to-high-end monitors now, including a gorgeous 4k 60hz monitor.
@dashcloud I'm using a mac pro with a dual-link DVI so I'm doubtful a TV would work for me. Also, those TV's are more expensive than $194. I do know of a Monoprice monitor that I bookmarked in case I get a good deal on it one day but it's currently $499 and only 28". I really like my 30" now and if I have to lose a couple inches, it better be a cheap monitor or I'll just keep what I have. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=12156&seq=1&format=2
The monitor set ups I run these days get changed fairly frequently, but none are as cool as my old Silicon Graphics 1600sw units that I bought in the late 90s and adored for several years.
7680×4320
@Pavlov They don't make that size monitor for your main monitor. You probably have a 2x2 setup, but that is not a "main monitor." Mine is 3840x2160. I am surprised they did not include that in the survey.
@ArcaneOracle Hmm. Guess I should return this Sharp prototype to the guys at Pixar that sent it to me because it can't possibly exist. Nah, I think I'll keep right on using it 'till they want it back. (And before you ask, yes, they also lent several of their proprietary video cards which are built on the NVIDIA OptiX platform)
@Pavlov So, how usable for everyday computing is it? I imagine videos are fine, but lots of programs seem to have issues at high resolutions, and high DPIs? Also, what do they call 8k resolution?
@dashcloud It pretty much sucks for anything other than running the ray-tracing program that Pixar supplied but Avid Media Composer using the new DNxHR codec runs like a freaking banshee and is stable. The monitor is stamped "Super Hi-Vision" but I don't think that will be what it is called when it comes to market. Everyone around here refers to it as FUHD in emails with the guys back in Emeryville. If you bump it down to 4k and boot into Linux most everything I use from day to day is stable.
@Pavlov FUHD? Frack yoU, Huge Dick!
@Squid_07 Um . . . thank you.
FUHD = Full Ultra HD
@Pavlov lol welcome
i don't have a monitor. the only way i can use my main computer is to remote in from another computer. it's obvious i could resolve my issue by buying today's deal. however, i currently don't have the cash. damn you @narfcake.
@carl669 Thrift store. My 20" widescreen was $10.
@narfcake you sir, are a good goat.
1440p all the way. Until sufficient GPU power exists to really push 4K.
@ComputerMD82 It exists - it is a matter of economics, not lack of ability.
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DisplayPort-Eyefinity-PCI-Express-100-505725/dp/B00JU4KWBE
@Pavlov that card has worse 3D Gaming performance than 290X.
@Pavlov did you really just link a workstation graphics card? Smh
@wishod @Lazarpandar That card renders animation in Maya with almost no lag at 4K - some people actually use a computer for more than gaming and the Internet.
@Pavlov Cool story bro. I hope many professionals read your comment and educate themselves. in the mean time 98% of people would rather talk about consumer graphics cards.
@Pavlov thank God meh.com takes so little space on your 8k monitor you can render real time 4k Maya animation for Disney and troll peasants at forums at the same time.
@wishod Yeah, my life would be so empty if I didn't troll the peasants on meh (end sarcasm).
As many here know, I am co-owner of a decent little media company. I'm such a giant dick that I can't count how many times I didn't take a paycheck so I could make sure the people that work for me could go home and pay their mortgage and feed their families (whom, by the way, all had health insurance before Obamacare) while I sank deeper in debt and put it all on the line. There were a fuck load of lean months and a lot of people that made a hell of a lot more than I did working at my own company (for a hell of a long time).
GFY.
@Pavlov Fascinating, too, that you specifically spelled out in your comment that it's doable if you can/will pay for it. People get agitated over some seriously stupid shit.
My saying it was a matter of economics had nothing to do with my pocketbook and everything to do with the current state of the market. There are consumer / gaming cards that are eminently adequate to push 4K, the same pricing disparity exists. As it is with most all things, you pay to play at the high end of the market.
@Pavlov Sorry if I was unclear — I think it's weird for people to act like you're an asshole for suggesting it when you clearly stated it's attainable, but at a cost.
@brhfl I surmised that was the case, I just wanted to clarify my earlier comment further after your posting.
@brhfl The reason he's an asshole is because he linked a product that solves problems less than 1% of people looking for a graphics card are trying to solve. A Radeon 295x2 would have MORE than 2x the gaming performance for less than half the price.
@Lazarpandar That doesn't make him an asshole. We're not all gamers. Can it.
@brhfl Yeah and a professional graphics designer is already aware of what's on the market. It was a pretentious, assuming comment. Thus, asshole.
@brhfl
@Pavlov Yeah link a $10m yacht next time someone's looking for a boat and then claim that you're not an asshole.
@Lazarpandar You're a complete and total fucking douchebag. You're not even the OP. The OP didn't specify consumer or gaming or 3D capable card, they said push 4K. Pavlov replied with not only a video card that will push 4K but one that will do so to multiple monitors, simultaneously, if you bothered to read the specs. And he makes a good point, that to push 4K you've got to basically choose to pay for it through the ass or choose to wait. He's not wrong. You on the other hand are acting like a whiny cunt and you've added nothing to the conversation. Had you said "Hey, that's a cool card but do you have a recommend for a gaming card" he very well might have come back with a solid. Pavlov adds value and humor to this place and he shares his knowledge on those things he knows cold and he isn't at all elitist. Hell, he gives away a fuku worth at least $100 or more just for the fun of doing it in a contest. I don't see you doing anything other than being a complete little bitch.
@trippymeh I regret I can't star your post more than once. we really need a down vote function for special cases like Lazarpandafucker.
Hard to find one under 10 million . . .
@narfcke This thread is now royally fucked, and you're to blame.
@trippymeh Okay I was really not expect this much hate so lemme bring us back from name calling and make a few closing points: 1.) Personally I don't think that it's relevant that Pavlov is a super nice guy that gives away fuku bags. 2.) I don't think the multiple monitor comment is relevant either because the entire thread is about a person's main display. 3.) There are many cards that can push 4k resolution for significantly less than the card that Pavlov linked, and in fact my entire issue with the linking of a super expensive workstation graphics card was that it looked like he just found the most expensive card he could without bothering to think about use cases and cost efficiency. Clearly I was wrong on the first bit, my apologies. To summarize my entire point, when people talk about graphics cards on forums that are not dedicated to professional graphics work or workstation graphics cards, they are almost always talking about consumer graphics for rendering video games, this fact is inarguable. When a person links a graphics card for "pushing 4k resolution" that is not only a workstation gpu but extremely expensive one of two conclusions can be drawn. A) That person has no idea what they're talking about or B) That person is out of touch with the majority of the market. I assumed A, but clearly it's B. Look Pavlov, I get that you do professional graphics work that requires this kind of stuff and I'm sorry that I assumed that you don't know what you're talking about, but you can't honestly tell me that you thought that it was more likely that ComputerMD82 was looking to "render animation in Maya with almost no lag at 4k" rather than to simply play video games at 4k resolutions. Assuming the former was pretentious, and this concludes my argument.
@Lazarpandar The blame completely rests on the shoulders of @narfcake (whose name I apparently misspelled in my drunk yacht posting early this morning, which may be the most tragic thing so far in this entire exchange as the image of the Royal goat was a good pull IMO).
@Lazarpandar or as was suggested, @Lazarpandafucker 1.) What you expect and what you get are directly proportional to your douchebaggery. 2.) Closing points? I guess you're running away taking a parting shot? Coward. 3.) I don't care what your personal feelings are, fact is Pavlov has a track record for being cool while you have a track record of? (Hint: the answer will have the word douchebag in it). 4.) The multiple monitor comment is absolutely relevant as proven once again, you can't or choose not to actually read. The card he linked to will push 4K to a single monitor (or 4K to multiple monitors at the same time). 5.) Yes, there are many cards for less, don't see you adding value to the discussion and linking to a single one, you just have an issue to the one which was linked to. 6.) When you're wrong, you're epically wrong. 7.) An inarguable fact? Yeah, riiiiiight. Bullshit. 8.) There are quite a few more than 2 conclusions that might be drawn. The entire problem with you is that all you did was sit in your underwear in your mother's basement and draw conclusions and be a douche. 9.) Still have yet to read a valid argument, all I see is just you making excuses for your continued douchebaggery. 10.) I have no idea why @Pavlov hasn't sliced and diced you, but I have a lot more respect for him for not doing it and blaming it all on the goat of the month. Class move. Every time you type, you show you have none. Dick move. And finally, if I throw a bone will you chase it and go away? I swear to sweet baby Jesus your mother dropped you on your head cause you just don't (can't) get it. Here's hoping the OP comes back and thanks Pavlov for the recommend. That'd be the icing on the fucking cake.
@trippymeh Dude you are so completely toxic. If you think I'm being a douche you need to look in the mirror.
@Lazarpandar Take a long hard look at what you've written above. You out of the blue call another member an asshole for no good reason. You pretentiously call another member pretentious. Then you call him an asshole yet again. And you admittedly make assumptions and draw conclusions that not only are completely wrong, but reveal you're a douche. And then have the balls to say I'm toxic. The whole mirror shit is so Jr. High. I'm just throwing it back at you. Pot meet kettle, motherfucker.
@trippymeh @Lazarpandar both of you seem to have gotten the points you wanted to make across, so how about we end this little tiff here. In the future make sure to keep Wheaton's Law in mind. I'm too old to babysit.
You mean size matters?
5760 x 1200 across three monitors.
@ChunkyBitz They are asking for your main monitor. Not all three...
1600x1200. Secondary is a 1920x1200.
@duodec I'm surprised you surprised you wouldn't use the 1200p monitor as your main.
@Noremac258 The 1600x1200 is a medium-high end commercial monitor; the 1920x1200, while better than the 16x9 "High definition" toys that superseded it, just doesn't have the same image quality.
3440*1400 21:9 ftw
1680x1050 on my mbp and 1920x1080 (1080p) on my HTPC.
1680x1050x2 (second monitor is an old 26" Sharp Aquos TV).
1440x900 13" MBA Mid 2012
No one is buying 4k monitors yet? I can attest they are really clear.
I used to use a 1600x1200 CRT, but it was fucking heavy and hard to move, and then Meh sold a 23" monitor at 1920x1080. It's so much smaller and lighter that I decided it was worth switching to a lower resolution.
@Dweezle Would you say you were resolved to switch?
@Dweezle Losing vertical resolution sucks more than losing horizontal up to a point. My 1600x1200 flat panel replaced a 21" 1600x1200 Diamondtron CRT that weighed almost 85 pounds (it was a high end workstation monitor); compared to that even a heavy flat panel is a featherweight.
@duodec I miss the old CRTs. The colors were so much warmer.
1280x1024. Yes, 4x3 19". It's an old monitor now, but still pretty good. It was a highly rated monitor when it came out.
@jqubed probably your 19'' is 5:4, as most of them were
1680x1050 @ 2ms
Sometimes speed matters.
Whole lotta people missed the 'main' part in the question. I do have a smaller old 1440x900 vga monitor to the left and a 1080p tv up on my dresser, purely for video, but the main is a 28" 1920x1200
1,680 x 1,050 Apple 20" from 2008ish. Still works great.
no monitor, just plugging along on a notebook. no gaming needs and no space for a non notebook system.
@bayportbob me too...
My main monitor at work is a 2560x1440, but I have two really oddball monitors as well setup in portrait mode instead of landscape, they're 1152x2048 each in that configuration. Good for writing code. At home, I just have two 1920x1080, configured so that my desktop resolution is 1920x2160. Top monitor can be swapped between the PC second monitor and various game systems.
2560x1080
3200x1800 on my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro
5120x2880 on my retina iMac
@daveJay Sweet
THE MAX. I OWN ALL THE PIXELS!
1200x1600 + 2560x1600 + 1200x1600
meh
5760x1080
With Nvidia surround it's treated as a single display so its a valid response!
And 3200x1800 on my lapper
1440x900
still rockin' a Samsung SyncMaster 920nw, old enough to have a "Works with windows Vista" decal on it.
VGA all the way.
3840x2160
@orionsbeltxow Nice. Curious what monitor that is so I can look into buying one.
@cengland0 https://meh.com/deals/samsung-28-4k-monitor-refurbished
@grum Thanks. And for less than $200 (at $194) I should have bought it. I wonder why I didn't. Maybe the opportunity will come around again in the future.
@cengland0 You could get one of the small 4k TVs- people used Seiki's 4k TVs as monitors. Monoprice also makes a line mid-to-high-end monitors now, including a gorgeous 4k 60hz monitor.
@dashcloud I'm using a mac pro with a dual-link DVI so I'm doubtful a TV would work for me. Also, those TV's are more expensive than $194. I do know of a Monoprice monitor that I bookmarked in case I get a good deal on it one day but it's currently $499 and only 28". I really like my 30" now and if I have to lose a couple inches, it better be a cheap monitor or I'll just keep what I have. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=12156&seq=1&format=2
@dashcloud I just discovered that the video card that comes with the Mac Pro doesn't support resolutions higher than 2560 x 1600. Bummer.
@cengland0 That sucks! Maybe you can replace the card with a higher-end model?
My 1680x1050 ACD has trucked through a G5 PowerMac, a Mac Pro 2,1, and is going strong on my new 6,1.
1920x1080
I forget, I setup the monitor thingy a coupla years ago and never touched it since.
I have 2, both 1920x1200, perfect for drafting in microstation as I get the detail and the drafting real estate space I need.
220..... 240.... whatever it takes......
@ilovereality
No option for 2560x1600? What is this shit!
The monitor set ups I run these days get changed fairly frequently, but none are as cool as my old Silicon Graphics 1600sw units that I bought in the late 90s and adored for several years.