@OnionSoup@xobzoo Honestly that was more fun. But it was in Silicon Valley in the 80’s. I remember when I started, I said “I’m learning cool stuff, they even pay me, and the parties are better than in college.” But probably a very lucky and not typical experience, especially nowadays.
@OnionSoup@pmarin@togle
There used to be an Ice Hockey team in Macon GA.
They were called the Whoopees. Yes, that’s right;
they were the Macon Whoopees!! Best Team Mascot EVER!
Nothing struck fear into the hearts of one’s “enemy” on the football field or basketball court than hearing they had to take on the Fergus Falls Otters…
@pakopako Wow, he sounds like a real mensch! That makes what happened to the Hudson River steamboat named after him even funnier. Back in the 60s, the owner of Anthony’s Pier 4 in Boston bought the Peter Stuyvesant & moored it as an annex to the restaurant, only to have it break free during the Blizzard of '78 & sink! Seems fitting.
@pakopako History is full of celebrated figures who were outright bastards by modern standards. The old saying “history is written by the victors” is an oversimplified and insufficient explanation. Often the “victors” wrote little or nothing, but people who wanted to make well-known figures seem heroic, as inspirations and points of pride, would willfully omit unpleasant truths to glorify them after the fact. And, honestly, the modern experience of a great many people is that those who aspire to power and wealth are often precisely the people most likely to be a hazard to others (or all) when they achieve it. And you need look no farther than the history texts handed out in our schools during most of the latter 19th through the latter 20th Centuries to see how someone like Stuyvesant could be idolized as a result of such distortions. What’s most dismaying is that there are still people today who think that such whitewashing is a good and proper thing.
@werehatrack true and sadly very true.
While I spout that all money is blood money if you trace the usage back far enough, from a psychological view people do need their no-flaw legends no matter how many shortcuts said legend might or might not have felt guilty taking. Because bylines and sound bites are faster to convey than passages and parables, your freedom fighter is my status quo terrorist, and why the hell is everyone in such a hurry for that they can’t share a half second dialog and reach a short term compromise. (Even if that compromise is “eat the rich”.)
The Braves for 50+ years. Then during the plague, some paleface thin skins decided to get offended on behalf of native Americans and campaigned to get it changed, even though the local Ute tribe said they had no problem with it.
@milstarr More of a reason than the Washington Commanders, which is basically, well, we were forced to change it, refused to do so 10 years, nobody was going to like whatever we picked, so deal with it!
My high school stole the mascot, colors, and logo of a college - they got a cease & desist my junior year and had to change the logo (they kept the mascot & colors)
My middle school also stole the logo of a football team
@Ldfzm Wildcats, and purple and white, by any chance? If asked in advance for permission, Kansas will grant it easily. But if you don’t ask first, then their legal team sends a C&D.
I will note that there is an area northeast of Dallas in which at least six high schools all have Tigers as their mascot, each using exactly the same clipart image as their logo, and a majority using identical color schemes. I do not know if they all compete in the same division, and I really don’t care. But the folks who run screen printing shops in that area find it somewhat amusing.
Our mascot was an angry, native American & our school called it the Red Raider. They’ve since changed it (for obvious reasons) to the Red Hawks. Ca-caw, ca-caw!!! Giggle
The Central Lancers. As in an armored guy, on a horse, with a big freaking lance.
We were actually state champions one year when I was in school, which was weird, because no one cared that much. In Philly, never understood the whole Friday night lights thing. Then my sister moved to a small town. I went with her family to a couple games and was like wtf? The whole freaking town is there.
@lisagd@ponagathos Reminds me of the old joke about the Urgent Care technician named “Lance Boyles”.
I don’t suppose you had classes for potential nurses at that school?
@lisagd@phendrick Ha! It is actually an academic magnet school for high achievers(didn’t take for me) so we had tons of college level electives. I myself took Pharmacology. I did not go into medicine but learned more about the blood/brain barrier than I ever wanted to know.
@lisagd@phendrick@ponagathos At the risk of being annoyingly technical, the sport would be jousting. Lancing is one (gruesome) way to win. Or, as phendrick noted, the other kind of lancing, which can be almost as gruesome. Just ask Dr. Sandra Lee!
@ircon96@lisagd@ponagathos At the risk of being annoyingly wise-ass, I guess Bengal Lancers were veterinarians in India who did it mainly for sport (and not to be confused with polo players?)
Fun fact: I played the mascot at my high school. Football season was much better because the costume kept me warm outside. Basketball season was pretty hot and miserable to be in that thing.
Our high school mascot was the Hawks. My senior year we played to a tie for the state football championship… there was NO provision for overtime, extra attempts or whatever so we were co-state-champions with some other school in Missouri.
Talk about kissing your sister!
We were the Little Green, so a Bissell spot cleaner…? Actually, that would have made more sense, because we were named after the Dartmouth College “Big Green,” which has never been fully explained, either. At least both teams’ colors are green & white, so there’s that.
If there is any doubt, they could settle it on the field. But I think the UNT golf team now is more of a threat than their football team (and might be able to beat the football team).
@ircon96@ybmuG That’s the problem: If the school colors were not green, there probably wouldn’t be much of anything green left there (pretty much like most of Texas currently). :}
We hit 107 today locally in central Tx. That’s actual temperature. Heat index gets us into the mid hundred teens (or however you say it). At least the humidity has been lower than usual for this time of year; I guess all the moisture evaporated and blew away.
From the local TV station weather guru: That is the theme of the weekend. Friday’s 78-year-old record high of 106° is expected to be smashed. Saturday’s record of 105° will be topped. Sunday will edge out the 1999 record of 107°. August has taken or tied 11 record highs so far this month. By the end of the weekend, we will have reached 100°+ 44 times in a row (an all-time record that continues to grow).
When you beat out a summer record high in Texas, that’s saying something.
So it has been about a month and a half since we DID NOT HIT 100 or more. They keep having Heat Alerts interrupting TV viewing. Nobody pays attention to that any longer. We just expect it.
What’s worse than the record highs is the record lows. Records for the WARMEST lows on records for many days this month. Many of the LOWS for each day were around 80 or higher. In other words, houses, streets, lawns, etc., never cool off.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much brown in this area. Amazing we don’t have more grass fires. We are even losing trees to the drought.
I quit locking my back door from my laundry room (no AC ducting there) to the deck. My permanently visiting cats discovered they can squeeze in where it’s about 15 degrees cooler than outside and they spend their days in there mostly. I put water in there for them, in addition to what’s on the deck.
My dog is going stir crazy in the house. She keeps wanting to go outside, but decides 10 minutes is long enough at a time.
I don’t even think The Goat deserves any blame for this. It’s just the way things are now.
In fact, good ol’ Tx ERCOT is back in local discussions of power generation. Haven’t had them yet, but we are an inch away from rolling blackouts again, from exceeding power generation capacity. I used to check in on their website to monitor, but now it’s too scary.
@phendrick@ybmuG Yeesh… I truly don’t envy you, but i wouldn’t exactly call this a haven, either. We’re breaking our own records up here, this summer it happens to be rainfall & catastrophic flooding, with some severe thunderstorms & a tornado here & there. It seems like no region is immune from severe weather anymore, it’s just a matter of time before the next catastrophe hits. Oy vey!
@ircon96@ybmuG
<rant>
Too bad our federal government can’t spend more time doing the BIG forward-looking things. Federal oversight is one thing but federal administration is totally another. Our attitude in Texas is “push, pull, or get out of the way”. Same in many other states.
For instance, they definitely weigh in on oil and gas pipelines. And some chemical transports. But where are the WATER pipelines? And look at Israel that depends greatly on desalination. Our nation is surrounded on 2 1/2 sides by water.
I think our country gets sufficient rainfall overall; it’s just not distributed very well. Texas could use a lot of your excess from the Northeast, say. Same for most of the Southwest currently. There are legal fights in California, Arizona, and such about who gets the limited water and in other places (Colorado river). Agriculture is suffering and threatened.
Before we started (again) importing so much oil, most domestic production was transported by pipeline. I’m no engineer, but think water pipelines could co-exist in the same right-of-way areas (and would be handy for dealing with fires or spills).
At the city level, there needs to be more provisions for “gray water” for plant and animal use and even sanitation. Some places even have undue restrictions on collecting rainwater (??).
Water usage is getting to be a huge part of our environmental concerns, but all the activity seems to be toward limiting it, instead of providing more (??).
The word “pettifogger” is perfect to describe our small-minded politicians, who are mostly attorneys (and also for our administrative overlords). There is more than enough BLAME for them.
And, when you’re talking about the massive, profound level of drought in the West, the scale of such an operation is mind-boggling. And, don’t forget, the logistics of building infrastructure through the Rockies & other mountain ranges, huge swamps, etc, is another consideration. This country is so vast that it just isn’t practical, unfortunately. I wish we could send you guys some of our rain. I apologize for my failure in this department.
@ircon96@ybmuG
“While technically feasible … many challenges…”
Kinda like the atomic bomb and getting to the moon.
But it happened, with resolve. Depends on what it is worth to you.
I know property rights are a big thing. Here in Texas, still much wrangling on the proposed High Speed Rail connection between Houston & Dallas, which would impact our area immensely both ways. It’d be very good for the greater many, but intensely disruptive for the smaller many. The answer is to make it very beneficial for all concerned.
For water, that would be cash incentives and usage allowances. (If URLs can be bought and sold for [hundreds of (?)] thousands of dollars, think about property access deals.)
Anyway,
WOW. Thanks for the link! Twice!
Great site. I’ll have to budget some time for exploring there.
TIL. Didn’t know you could highlight text in a linked article. Often thought I’d like to be able to do that, but never remotely thought it “technically feasible”, so never tried to research it.
I’ll have to explore that also. Recently been delving into the data:text/html thing. But again. You know. Time. (shout-out to @unksol) I’m retired. But. Still…
Personally I think we should just discourage people from living in hostile environments. We aren’t short on land over here where it’s wet so. You know. You don’t have to live in a desert/build a massive infrastructure project. If you want to and your state wants to pay for it though I’m sure you can
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@ircon96@phendrick@ybmuG also Nevada has been doing good on water conservation when it comes to the Colorado river pact. At least they try unlike some states.
Tornadoes are a pain but not a huge area impact. We pay for them.
if enough people moved somewhere it would change the political landscape.
But I wasn’t actually suggesting anyone move en mass out off a location just… If your state/city is running out of water it’s probably not a good idea to encourage MORE people to come. That’s all.
You could of course build a pipeline to the Great lakes. I’m sure some state will sell you water. Just going to be very expensive
I’m sure some state will sell you water. Just going to be very expensive
Fantastically expensive, more like. And Arizona has pretty much just shut down the building industry for anywhere that doesn’t already have the required pipeline-from-elsewhere or surface-sourced water supply for whatever is to be built. Their groundwater draw rate is beyond maxed out, and it is in serious danger of drying up.
Our mascot was a Sandstorm!
@tjohn4343 Were you known as the haboobs?
@ircon96 @tjohn4343 Only the girls’ teams.
@tjohn4343 How was it portrayed on shirts, etc.?
@tjohn4343 @lisagd Idk, there are plenty of male boobs. Sure, it’s a homonym, but i think it works!
Our mascot was despair.
@OnionSoup my whole high school life was despair.
@OnionSoup @pmarin I thought despair is what you land in after you graduate and suddenly have to start paying your own bills.
@OnionSoup @xobzoo Honestly that was more fun. But it was in Silicon Valley in the 80’s. I remember when I started, I said “I’m learning cool stuff, they even pay me, and the parties are better than in college.” But probably a very lucky and not typical experience, especially nowadays.
@OnionSoup @pmarin @xobzoo I had a similar experience in the Silicon Forest in the 80’s.
Out mascot was a comet
@heartny Our not Out. Ugh
We were the Barons. What the fuck does that even mean.
I live in Nebraska and we were the sailors. Why!?!?!
@kjady because you were surrounded by a sea of maize?
@kjady Did you sail prairie schooners?
@kjady @xobzoo paddle down the North Platte?
Griffin
@tru335 It looks like he has a lot of school spirit!
A school that my school played in sports was called the Pretzels
@togle that’s twisted!
@OnionSoup @togle you should have been the mustards and could have gotten all over them!
@OnionSoup @pmarin @togle
There used to be an Ice Hockey team in Macon GA.
They were called the Whoopees. Yes, that’s right;
they were the Macon Whoopees!!
Best Team Mascot EVER!
Nothing struck fear into the hearts of one’s “enemy” on the football field or basketball court than hearing they had to take on the Fergus Falls Otters…
@tohar1 I would have loved to have gone to that school
@tohar1
Cool. I lived in Detroit Lakes, Moorhead, Sauk Rapids (St.Cloud), Hibbing, Alexandria and Int’l Falls in the late 70’s
@tohar1 My first college was the Gophers. Equally intimidating.
If an antisemitic unpatriotic traitor without all their limbs is a type of person, then yes to one of the choices.
@pakopako ??? (I’ll bite, God help me!)
@ircon96 [the Peg-leg Peters][1]
[1]: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/dutch-administrator-peter-stuyvesant-directorgeneral-of-new-colony-picture-id71874566
@pakopako Wow, he sounds like a real mensch!
That makes what happened to the Hudson River steamboat named after him even funnier. Back in the 60s, the owner of Anthony’s Pier 4 in Boston bought the Peter Stuyvesant & moored it as an annex to the restaurant, only to have it break free during the Blizzard of '78 & sink! Seems fitting. 
@ircon96 Nice. Still perplexes me why any American would name something that. It’s like naming your school after hero-then-turncoat Benedict Arnold.
@pakopako History is full of celebrated figures who were outright bastards by modern standards. The old saying “history is written by the victors” is an oversimplified and insufficient explanation. Often the “victors” wrote little or nothing, but people who wanted to make well-known figures seem heroic, as inspirations and points of pride, would willfully omit unpleasant truths to glorify them after the fact. And, honestly, the modern experience of a great many people is that those who aspire to power and wealth are often precisely the people most likely to be a hazard to others (or all) when they achieve it. And you need look no farther than the history texts handed out in our schools during most of the latter 19th through the latter 20th Centuries to see how someone like Stuyvesant could be idolized as a result of such distortions. What’s most dismaying is that there are still people today who think that such whitewashing is a good and proper thing.
@werehatrack true and sadly very true.
While I spout that all money is blood money if you trace the usage back far enough, from a psychological view people do need their no-flaw legends no matter how many shortcuts said legend might or might not have felt guilty taking. Because bylines and sound bites are faster to convey than passages and parables, your freedom fighter is my status quo terrorist, and why the hell is everyone in such a hurry for that they can’t share a half second dialog and reach a short term compromise. (Even if that compromise is “eat the rich”.)
Highlander!
Wildcats!!!
@tinamarie1974
Is this a ploy to access my bank account by way of security question?
Condoms… I mean Trojans …
The Braves for 50+ years. Then during the plague, some paleface thin skins decided to get offended on behalf of native Americans and campaigned to get it changed, even though the local Ute tribe said they had no problem with it.
Apparently now it’s the The Redhawks.
@blaineg I wonder how long until someone gets offended at the Vikings across town?
@blaineg same for us. Indians forever, now the Eagles. They even made the police take them off the cars
We were the Commanders because our school was named after an astronaut, Edward H. White.
@milstarr More of a reason than the Washington Commanders, which is basically, well, we were forced to change it, refused to do so 10 years, nobody was going to like whatever we picked, so deal with it!
Maroons - we were a plural color
@snichola Are you sure it was about a color?
@rockblossom @snichola Yeah, Maroons could be in the “Type of Person” category rather than a color.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroons
My high school stole the mascot, colors, and logo of a college - they got a cease & desist my junior year and had to change the logo (they kept the mascot & colors)
My middle school also stole the logo of a football team
@Ldfzm Wildcats, and purple and white, by any chance? If asked in advance for permission, Kansas will grant it easily. But if you don’t ask first, then their legal team sends a C&D.
I will note that there is an area northeast of Dallas in which at least six high schools all have Tigers as their mascot, each using exactly the same clipart image as their logo, and a majority using identical color schemes. I do not know if they all compete in the same division, and I really don’t care. But the folks who run screen printing shops in that area find it somewhat amusing.
Our mascot was a crescent moon.
@cehaas So were you the Moons?
I could see some jokes coming from that …
@Kyeh The Crescents. I don’t recall anyone making fun of us for that specifically, but there was other fodder for them to use.
@cehaas Oh, okay.
@cehaas @Kyeh The Croissants, was it? flaky yet so delicious.
@cehaas @Kyeh @pmarin Was the Pillsbury dough boy your mascot?
@cehaas
/image outhouse
Tornadoes. Definitely a natural disaster
Our mascot was an angry, native American & our school called it the Red Raider. They’ve since changed it (for obvious reasons) to the Red Hawks. Ca-caw, ca-caw!!! Giggle
@LindyNC73 Same Redhawks as @blaineg?
The Central Lancers. As in an armored guy, on a horse, with a big freaking lance.
We were actually state champions one year when I was in school, which was weird, because no one cared that much. In Philly, never understood the whole Friday night lights thing. Then my sister moved to a small town. I went with her family to a couple games and was like wtf? The whole freaking town is there.
@ponagathos
Lancing is a high school sport?
@lisagd Maybe when it was founded. The school is like 180 years old.
@lisagd @ponagathos Reminds me of the old joke about the Urgent Care technician named “Lance Boyles”.
I don’t suppose you had classes for potential nurses at that school?
@lisagd @phendrick Ha! It is actually an academic magnet school for high achievers(didn’t take for me) so we had tons of college level electives. I myself took Pharmacology. I did not go into medicine but learned more about the blood/brain barrier than I ever wanted to know.
@lisagd @phendrick @ponagathos At the risk of being annoyingly technical, the sport would be jousting. Lancing is one (gruesome) way to win. Or, as phendrick noted, the other kind of lancing, which can be almost as gruesome. Just ask Dr. Sandra Lee!
@ircon96 @lisagd @ponagathos At the risk of being annoyingly wise-ass, I guess Bengal Lancers were veterinarians in India who did it mainly for sport (and not to be confused with polo players?)
@ircon96 @phendrick @ponagathos At the risk of being annoyingly trivial, jousting is the state sport of Maryland. No idea why.
@ircon96 @lisagd @ponagathos Maybe they just don’t have good rodeo bulls there. Gotta do something to show off your hutzpah
@ircon96 @phendrick @ponagathos There’s nary a rodeo bull to be seen. Lacrosse would have been a better choice for state sport.
Where is the survey choice: “I have no fricking clue as I didn’t care then and I certainly don’t care now.”?
Fun fact: I played the mascot at my high school. Football season was much better because the costume kept me warm outside. Basketball season was pretty hot and miserable to be in that thing.
@mbersiam What were you?
@mbersiam I did too! But only the football games got any love. No b-ball mascot needed.
@Kyeh
/giphy go tigers
@mbersiam Cute! Did you do stunts?
Our high school mascot was the Hawks. My senior year we played to a tie for the state football championship… there was NO provision for overtime, extra attempts or whatever so we were co-state-champions with some other school in Missouri.
Talk about kissing your sister!
@chienfou didn’t think that was so unusual in Missouri…
sorry forgot to add
Rock, yes, just a rock!! Rock Island High School (Rocky)
@viol Love it
@viol
/image hey Rocky
I’m my own mascot these days!
EDIT: CSX totally has heritage units now, finally…they’ve unveiled their first four as of this year. Wooo!
We were the Little Green, so a Bissell spot cleaner…?
Actually, that would have made more sense, because we were named after the Dartmouth College “Big Green,” which has never been fully explained, either. At least both teams’ colors are green & white, so there’s that.
@ircon96 Hah! That’s funny!
A coworker went high school in Ft. Collins, where the college team is the Rams.
The HS team is the Lambkins!
@Kyeh Yeesh, i bet they don’t get mocked at all!
@ircon96 The real “big” green is the “Mean Green”, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Texas_Mean_Green, where “Mean Joe Green” of the Coca-Cola commercial fame played.
If there is any doubt, they could settle it on the field. But I think the UNT golf team now is more of a threat than their football team (and might be able to beat the football team).
@ircon96 @phendrick
@phendrick @ybmuG I’ll take Dartmouth’s green any day… especially when i found out it’s currently over 100 degrees in Denton!
@ircon96 @ybmuG That’s the problem: If the school colors were not green, there probably wouldn’t be much of anything green left there (pretty much like most of Texas currently). :}
We hit 107 today locally in central Tx. That’s actual temperature. Heat index gets us into the mid hundred teens (or however you say it). At least the humidity has been lower than usual for this time of year; I guess all the moisture evaporated and blew away.
From the local TV station weather guru:
That is the theme of the weekend. Friday’s 78-year-old record high of 106° is expected to be smashed. Saturday’s record of 105° will be topped. Sunday will edge out the 1999 record of 107°. August has taken or tied 11 record highs so far this month. By the end of the weekend, we will have reached 100°+ 44 times in a row (an all-time record that continues to grow).
When you beat out a summer record high in Texas, that’s saying something.
So it has been about a month and a half since we DID NOT HIT 100 or more. They keep having Heat Alerts interrupting TV viewing. Nobody pays attention to that any longer. We just expect it.
What’s worse than the record highs is the record lows. Records for the WARMEST lows on records for many days this month. Many of the LOWS for each day were around 80 or higher. In other words, houses, streets, lawns, etc., never cool off.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much brown in this area. Amazing we don’t have more grass fires. We are even losing trees to the drought.
I quit locking my back door from my laundry room (no AC ducting there) to the deck. My permanently visiting cats discovered they can squeeze in where it’s about 15 degrees cooler than outside and they spend their days in there mostly. I put water in there for them, in addition to what’s on the deck.
My dog is going stir crazy in the house. She keeps wanting to go outside, but decides 10 minutes is long enough at a time.
I don’t even think The Goat deserves any blame for this. It’s just the way things are now.
In fact, good ol’ Tx ERCOT is back in local discussions of power generation. Haven’t had them yet, but we are an inch away from rolling blackouts again, from exceeding power generation capacity. I used to check in on their website to monitor, but now it’s too scary.
Enjoy your summer haven.
@phendrick @ybmuG Yeesh… I truly don’t envy you, but i wouldn’t exactly call this a haven, either. We’re breaking our own records up here, this summer it happens to be rainfall & catastrophic flooding, with some severe thunderstorms & a tornado here & there. It seems like no region is immune from severe weather anymore, it’s just a matter of time before the next catastrophe hits.
Oy vey!
@ircon96 @ybmuG
<rant>
Too bad our federal government can’t spend more time doing the BIG forward-looking things. Federal oversight is one thing but federal administration is totally another. Our attitude in Texas is “push, pull, or get out of the way”. Same in many other states.
For instance, they definitely weigh in on oil and gas pipelines. And some chemical transports. But where are the WATER pipelines? And look at Israel that depends greatly on desalination. Our nation is surrounded on 2 1/2 sides by water.
I think our country gets sufficient rainfall overall; it’s just not distributed very well. Texas could use a lot of your excess from the Northeast, say. Same for most of the Southwest currently. There are legal fights in California, Arizona, and such about who gets the limited water and in other places (Colorado river). Agriculture is suffering and threatened.
Before we started (again) importing so much oil, most domestic production was transported by pipeline. I’m no engineer, but think water pipelines could co-exist in the same right-of-way areas (and would be handy for dealing with fires or spills).
At the city level, there needs to be more provisions for “gray water” for plant and animal use and even sanitation. Some places even have undue restrictions on collecting rainwater (??).
Water usage is getting to be a huge part of our environmental concerns, but all the activity seems to be toward limiting it, instead of providing more (??).
The word “pettifogger” is perfect to describe our small-minded politicians, who are mostly attorneys (and also for our administrative overlords). There is more than enough BLAME for them.
</rant>
@phendrick @ybmuG I used to wonder that myself, but here’s a brief explanation of some basic obstacles:
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/can-a-drought-be-relieved-bringing-water-other-regions-country-have-excess-water#:~:text=While technically feasible%2C transporting surface,%2C environmental impacts%2C and more.
And, when you’re talking about the massive, profound level of drought in the West, the scale of such an operation is mind-boggling. And, don’t forget, the logistics of building infrastructure through the Rockies & other mountain ranges, huge swamps, etc, is another consideration. This country is so vast that it just isn’t practical, unfortunately. I wish we could send you guys some of our rain. I apologize for my failure in this department.
@ircon96 @ybmuG
“While technically feasible … many challenges…”
Kinda like the atomic bomb and getting to the moon.
But it happened, with resolve. Depends on what it is worth to you.
I know property rights are a big thing. Here in Texas, still much wrangling on the proposed High Speed Rail connection between Houston & Dallas, which would impact our area immensely both ways. It’d be very good for the greater many, but intensely disruptive for the smaller many. The answer is to make it very beneficial for all concerned.
For water, that would be cash incentives and usage allowances. (If URLs can be bought and sold for [hundreds of (?)] thousands of dollars, think about property access deals.)
Anyway,
WOW. Thanks for the link! Twice!
I’ll have to explore that also. Recently been delving into the data:text/html thing. But again. You know. Time. (shout-out to @unksol) I’m retired. But. Still…
@ircon96 @phendrick @ybmuG not sure why I’m being tagged but I know Southern California has been trying just cause. I watch engeering channels.
https://www.eenews.net/articles/california-water-pipeline-hits-legal-setback/
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/california/california-water-tunnel-plan/103-5042a60a-45ea-495e-bbab-534ab13a9aa3#:~:text=— A new plan to reroute,sends it south to vast
Personally I think we should just discourage people from living in hostile environments. We aren’t short on land over here where it’s wet so. You know. You don’t have to live in a desert/build a massive infrastructure project. If you want to and your state wants to pay for it though I’m sure you can
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@ircon96 @phendrick @ybmuG also Nevada has been doing good on water conservation when it comes to the Colorado river pact. At least they try unlike some states.
https://www.ktnv.com/news/drought-crisis/nevada-remains-a-leader-in-water-conservation-but-faces-more-cuts
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjI4sS22eeAAxXyJkQIHceAD88QFnoECA8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.epa.gov%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2017-02%2Fdocuments%2Fws-ourwater-nevada-state-fact-sheet.pdf&usg=AOvVaw345APFrEAbiXoHLKGZS76H&opi=89978449
@ircon96 @unksol @ybmuG
That would de facto eliminate more than half the country.
Southern Cal, Arizona, New Mexico, western Texas: desert southwest and droughts.
North east (and occasionally other regions in the “MidWest”) : current flooding.
Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas (and certainly other areas from west to east, incl. Ohio!): tornadoes.
Eastern Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, southern Florida, and regions north - northeast of them: Gulf Coast hurricanes.
Eastern seaboard: Atlantic hurricanes.
Florida for Democrats and New York for Republicans!
Washington, DC for anybody with character.
And, of course, Downtown Chicago.
But it seems, both homo sapiens and unsapiens adapt to hostile environments.
@ircon96 @phendrick @ybmuG if you were being realistic don’t live in a desert or a flood plain.
Tornadoes are a pain but not a huge area impact. We pay for them.
if enough people moved somewhere it would change the political landscape.
But I wasn’t actually suggesting anyone move en mass out off a location just… If your state/city is running out of water it’s probably not a good idea to encourage MORE people to come. That’s all.
You could of course build a pipeline to the Great lakes. I’m sure some state will sell you water. Just going to be very expensive
@unksol
Fantastically expensive, more like. And Arizona has pretty much just shut down the building industry for anywhere that doesn’t already have the required pipeline-from-elsewhere or surface-sourced water supply for whatever is to be built. Their groundwater draw rate is beyond maxed out, and it is in serious danger of drying up.
@ircon96 @phendrick @ybmuG we don’t have to even try hard
/youtube John Oliver water
Just to stop companies from drawing down the water table. They CAN move
Desert High Scorpions - Edwards Air Force Base
@lisaviolet
In what sense are they high?
That concerns me, hearing about football teams (maybe) that are high (maybe).
@lisaviolet we were
Neighbors, though not likely since I’m probably much older than you and I got out of the desert shortly after graduating
@phendrick Desert High School Scorpions.
@lisaviolet Oh, OK, that’s a relief.
/giphy phew!
Antelope…. Because I grew up in the Antelope Valley, so clever.