This is AMAAAAAZING!
(I still don’t know how you pull these great songs out of thin air - it’s super impressive!!!)
The poster frame is also a funny picture of @matthew
@callow Sheesh! Not in a joking mood this morning, I see.
But if we want to be overly serious this morning, I’d argue “man” is being used in the place of an indefinite pronoun there, right. You can argue strict rules of grammar on me, but the point would be worse in that context, right? Instead of using a standard, gender-neutral pronoun, we went with “man”, a clearly gendered stand-in.
Believe me, using gender exclusive “pronoun stand-ins” like “guy” or “man” or “dude” at your business (or just out with friends) can be gender-stereotype-normative. And even if you say you have an apostrophe for the elision when you say “[hu]'man” that makes your use wholly innocent doesn’t mean anyone hears it. I’d encourage you to actively use a more fitting word. You know, like literally using human.
Or try this: Start using “gal” every time you would’ve used one of the former, and see how out of place it sounds, and the looks you get, at least at first. Why is that? Is there any way the discordance of using feminine words as gender inclusive “pronoun stand-ins” can be read as a good thing? That’s exactly what your brainless use and defense of “man” promotes.
Maybe you think that discordance is a good thing, and your mental apostrophe is enough. That’s interesting. Own that. Explain why. But I think you’ll fight a losing battle.
But back to the song. Jokes offend. That’s – often – the risk of making a joke, and – usually – it grants the maker some latitude. I didn’t excoriate bald, strange-eyebrowed, Irk-voice dude who I once thought was JasonToon for his callously insensitive lyrics. (Pro tip: say the last sentence with a smirk that shows you I’m joking, except that JasonToon part. I really did think they were the same gal.) Instead, I attempted a joke via a little hyperbole. Didn’t say you’d find it funny, but I think a bad joke (possibly with political overtones) is well within the bounds of accepted meh-culture.
The fact that a knee-jerk, literal-minded, “I’m offended to your taking offence!” reaction to a largely snarky but joking statement scores four stars in two hours makes me lose some faith in this community.
/giphy gotta have faith
As in, “I have zero faith giphy is going to get that right.”
@stinks Based on your response, I don’t believe you were joking to begin with. Not a battle I’d pick or a discussion I’d be particularly interested in having, but you did and that’s fine. Own it, gal.
I think a bad joke (possibly with political overtones)
Yeah, pointing out the use of “man” wasn’t without politics. The joke was the hyperbole. I don’t think the lyrics were meant to offend, or even that it should offend, but with IWD yesterday, I figured the lyrics were ripe for a little well-meaning poke.
That is, I don’t think NotJasonToon deserved a serious gender-critical response for his song. Just a joke to highlight the woman’s likely honest, but culturally-insensitive, mistake.
@stinks “Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process.”
I’ll pass on the gender word usage experiment, in Philly everyone is included in “youse guys” and that is fine by me.
@stinks Only gender neutrals pronouns were used: I, we, us, them. I am open to the claim that “man” is gender specific, but it is undeniably NOT a pronoun.
This is AMAAAAAZING!
(I still don’t know how you pull these great songs out of thin air - it’s super impressive!!!)
The poster frame is also a funny picture of @matthew
Now, do I forward this to my friends who are like this or will they be offended?
@PantHeist I say send it to 'em.
If your friends are right and collapse is imminent, your friendship is over, along with all of humanity. No problem!
If they’re wrong and civilization is fine, you can enjoy a jolly laugh with them over the years and years of your lovely friendship. Also no problem!
One day… No, I guess zero days after international women’s day, and you’re already back to using gender-specific pronouns just to make an easy rhyme.
@stinks The only pronoun used was “I”. If you’re talking about the word “man” it refers to humans. You’ll need to find offense elsewhere.
@callow Sheesh! Not in a joking mood this morning, I see.
But if we want to be overly serious this morning, I’d argue “man” is being used in the place of an indefinite pronoun there, right. You can argue strict rules of grammar on me, but the point would be worse in that context, right? Instead of using a standard, gender-neutral pronoun, we went with “man”, a clearly gendered stand-in.
Believe me, using gender exclusive “pronoun stand-ins” like “guy” or “man” or “dude” at your business (or just out with friends) can be gender-stereotype-normative. And even if you say you have an apostrophe for the elision when you say “[hu]'man” that makes your use wholly innocent doesn’t mean anyone hears it. I’d encourage you to actively use a more fitting word. You know, like literally using human.
Or try this: Start using “gal” every time you would’ve used one of the former, and see how out of place it sounds, and the looks you get, at least at first. Why is that? Is there any way the discordance of using feminine words as gender inclusive “pronoun stand-ins” can be read as a good thing? That’s exactly what your brainless use and defense of “man” promotes.
Maybe you think that discordance is a good thing, and your mental apostrophe is enough. That’s interesting. Own that. Explain why. But I think you’ll fight a losing battle.
But back to the song. Jokes offend. That’s – often – the risk of making a joke, and – usually – it grants the maker some latitude. I didn’t excoriate bald, strange-eyebrowed, Irk-voice dude who I once thought was JasonToon for his callously insensitive lyrics. (Pro tip: say the last sentence with a smirk that shows you I’m joking, except that JasonToon part. I really did think they were the same gal.) Instead, I attempted a joke via a little hyperbole. Didn’t say you’d find it funny, but I think a bad joke (possibly with political overtones) is well within the bounds of accepted meh-culture.
The fact that a knee-jerk, literal-minded, “I’m offended to your taking offence!” reaction to a largely snarky but joking statement scores four stars in two hours makes me lose some faith in this community.
/giphy gotta have faith
As in, “I have zero faith giphy is going to get that right.”
/scene
@stinks Based on your response, I don’t believe you were joking to begin with. Not a battle I’d pick or a discussion I’d be particularly interested in having, but you did and that’s fine. Own it, gal.
@PantHeist
Yeah, pointing out the use of “man” wasn’t without politics. The joke was the hyperbole. I don’t think the lyrics were meant to offend, or even that it should offend, but with IWD yesterday, I figured the lyrics were ripe for a little well-meaning poke.
That is, I don’t think NotJasonToon deserved a serious gender-critical response for his song. Just a joke to highlight the woman’s likely honest, but culturally-insensitive, mistake.
But @callow for the callous defense? Probably so.
Who’s “strange-eyebrowed”?
/giphy popcorn
@stinks “Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better but the frog dies in the process.”
I’ll pass on the gender word usage experiment, in Philly everyone is included in “youse guys” and that is fine by me.
@stinks Only gender neutrals pronouns were used: I, we, us, them. I am open to the claim that “man” is gender specific, but it is undeniably NOT a pronoun.
How long has Matt been playing the Ukulele?
I assume someone here knows, if not tag Matt please.
@caffeine_dude
@matthew
@caffeine_dude I could never get the hang of ukes. Strings all out of order and all. Chords don’t make sense… Junk.
I mean, if it’s been more than a week I should probably be better at it.
The apocalypse doesn’t sound so grim when sung in such a high key, does it?
Who would have thought that the musical instrument of the Apocalypse would be the Ukulele?
I had assumed Bagpipes or Accordion.
When I post uke music, “eww”. When Meh posts uke music “yay”.
@DrunkCat it’s still ew… But at least his lyrics are funny.
@DrunkCat
/youtube Rob ukulele slayer
@RiotDemon This is my new favorite thing ever.
@PocketBrain there’s a part two somewhere. If you haven’t checked out Rob yet, he’s got a bunch of fun videos.
/youtube Rob shovel metal
/youtube Rob harp metal