TIL: Edgar Allan Poe
10It’s October! For some people, October’s a month long holiday to celebrate the macabre days of Halloween or Samhain. In this thread, let’s talk about one of the more appropriate writers for this month.
- Born in Boston, Massachusetts
to an alcoholic, absent father and a mother who died a year later, Edgar and his two siblings “were left on their own”.
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By the age of 13 Edgar had written enough poetry to publish a book. Though his principal might have discouraged its being published.
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Poe only wrote one novel, “Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket”,
but, he is credited with defining the modern short story. He didn’t stop there, and did go on to pen “Tamerlane”, a textbook, a book of scientific theory, numerous essays, satires, humor tales and several book reviews (which also earned him a reputation as you’ll later learn.)
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Additionally, Poe is credited as father of the modern detective story, and he was one of the early adopters of the science fiction genre.
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Poe was a rather harsh literary critic, having earned the name ‘Tomahawk Man,’ and wrote a scathing review of Rufus Wilmot Griswold’s work. In turn, Griswold wrote a false obituary under a different name and an unauthorized biography of Poe after this death. Many of the falsehoods Griswold wrote about Poe have stuck to this day. (Except the underage cousin thing, that part is true.)
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Also, Poe is credited with changing the writing world. Before, writers would typically earn no money for their work, but Poe made it a point to write and attract a paying audience. “The Raven” earned him $9 as an example. He made it possible for other writers to write as a career.
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One of the techniques that makes Poe’s writing more intense is called “doubling” or when characters closely mimic each other. An evocative example is in “The Fall of the House of Usher”, when the narrator reads a passage from a book and hears strange noises that correspond to the descriptions in the story.
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The NFL’s own Baltimore Ravens got their name from Poe’s work “The Raven.”
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No one knows how he really died, as his medical records were lost. The reasons run the gamut from alcoholism to STDs to “cooping”
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more like edgar allan poo
@Moose
/giphy up top
@Moose I’m sorry, but I can’t support this. I will not star your post.
I listened to an audio book that theorized it might have been rabies that killed Poe.
@tnhillbillygal Yeah, I had read it might have been that as well. Apparently, his cat had died about the same time he did. Pretty odd coincidence.
Poe is a pretty interesting character.
I’ve been here:
https://news.virginia.edu/content/university-virginia-spirit-poe-resides-evermore
The current contents of No. 13 West Range, believed to be the room of Edgar Allan Poe.
Poe also spent some very productive time living in Philly. Interesting tidbit in this article how he became friends with Charles Dickens who had a pet raven which was part of his inspiration for the poem.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/edgar-allan-poe-philadelphia-house/
Allan*
I used to know someone with that name. When they told me their name, they said the way Edgar Allan Poe spells it.
@RiotDemon Fixt.
Was the cousin underage for the time? Not to be creepy, but the age of consent used to be super-creepy. And can’t young teenagers still get married with parental consent? I just wonder how out of line it seemed at the time.
@mossygreen she was 13. This was in 1835. Wasn’t that sort of normal back then?
@RiotDemon I don’t know if it was normal exactly, but I doubt it was extreme and horrifying.
@mossygreen @RiotDemon I know average lifespan at that time for both males & females was around a staggering 36 years old (young)!! Taking that into account, one would necessarily need to take a wife & start a family as early in life as possible in order for children to get a good start in their lives before parents were unable to provide for them…Hard to imagine nowadays!!
@mossygreen @RiotDemon @tohar1
Was that drop in 1870 due to the civil war?
/google when was the civil war
10 Facts: What Everyone Should Know About the Civil War …
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/10-facts-what-everyone-should-know-about-civil-war
@jst1ofknd @mossygreen @RiotDemon @tohar1 I believe that might have also been about the time of yellow fever outbreak that wiped out entire towns.
@jst1ofknd @mossygreen @RiotDemon @tohar1
You can also see the dips caused by WWI and WWII. Sobering.
In high school I was in a speech class. We had to memorize a piece of writing and perform it in front of the class. I picked The Raven. One of the most memorized pieces of literature.
I was doing well, until I flubbed. I couldn’t get back in the rhythm so instead I quit and cried.
I don’t even remember being made fun of for it, so that’s something.
@RiotDemon I’ll bet we’ve all had a similar experience:
@RiotDemon Ha! We had to do the same thing… unfortunately I got The Jabberwocky!! Holy macaroni batman. What in the hell was I thinking!!!
@lseeber omg. No thank you!
@RiotDemon To be fair, public speaking is difficult for most people (they mostly just hate doing it) so don’t feel bad about trying. I can assure you that you weren’t the only one that felt that way about your presentation.
He was my fav author growing up. Read all his stuff and whenever I had to do a report and he was an option, I did a report on him. Interesting character. Oh, and one of my sister’s name is Lenore.
@lseeber When Goosebumps hit the scene I was very mad because I thought they were trash (I worked in a library in circulation, so they all passed through my hands). “Why aren’t the children just reading Poe like I did?!” I demanded at the time. I only accepted R.L. Stine when the tv show came out, because 1) the stupidity and repetition of the plots made a lot more sense as a tv show, and 2) Stine has absolutely no charisma, to a point I found entirely charming.
Still: THE CHILDREN SHOULD BE READING EDGAR ALLAN POE.
@lseeber
They should have gotten Jon Lovitz to impersonate him.
@lseeber @mossygreen
^^ This
@compunaut @lseeber That too!
But specifically Poe… Bierce… a little Saki… some M.R. James… 'tis the season…
@compunaut @mossygreen Yes! Thankfully all of my grands are HUGE readers. Always have their face in a book.
@compunaut @mossygreen I have a very large book (still haven’t read it all… not sure where it is at the moment) I think it’s called Murder at Christmas. It’s a collection of short stories of murder mysteries taking place or involving Christmas in one way or another. An absolute fun read and great for a chilly winter night in front of the fireplace. There are tons of stories in it some good, some better, and I got it at a flea market for $1.00.
@mossygreen Never read one.
@lseeber 1) That sounds great! 2) If you’re referring to Goosebumps, keep it up! They’re garbage.
@compunaut @lseeber @mossygreen I found one called Murder for Christmas on Amazon- includes Christie and Sayers, Is that it? They have an audible version which is reasonably priced if it’s good.
@compunaut @mossygreen @sammydog01 Yes!! I believe that’s it. 26 Tales of Seasonal Malice. (Mines been packed away somewhere in a box for ages, I’m trying to find it) I do believe that’s it. Good eye!
@mossygreen Yes… referring to Goosebumps. Never read a one.
@compunaut @lseeber @sammydog01 But with audible you miss out on the Gahan Wilson illustrations! Sacrilege!
@compunaut @lseeber @mossygreen The hardcover is five bucks. I’ll order one.
@compunaut @lseeber @mossygreen @sammydog01 Me too, it looks great to read in the upcoming season. 5 bucks shipped aint bad.
EDIT: and the shipping notice just came in!
He used to hang around here back in the day. I visited his mother’s grave.
https://www.poemuseum.org/poe-in-richmond
Jules Verne was a big Poe fan in general but really liked the Arthur Gordon Pym book. It’s mentioned in 20,000 Leagues under the Sea, but Verne went a step further and wrote a sequel Pym book, the Sphinx of the Ice Fields (aka An Antarctic Mystery)
@craigthom This, I did not know.
@lseeber I only knew about the reference until I googled it yesterday.
Over the past couple of years I’ve been not just reading (well, listening to) books I should have already but also those that I’ve just seen the movies of (Frankenstein, Dracula, The Picture of Dorian Gray, etc.) This included plowing through every Jules Verne book I could find, many of which I read in my tweens, but that was a long time ago.
Anyway, I remember someone making reference to Poe’s Pym novel in one of them, but I couldn’t remember which one. I thought it was 20,000 Leagues, but it could also have been the Children of Captain Grant (aka In Search of the Castaways), since both were epic journeys across thousands of miles.
So I Google Verne and Pym to find out which one, but I also discovered that Verne had written that sequel.
@craigthom I almost did the same thing… go back and read classics or often discussed books that I never did but haven’t gotten to it for reasons. I wouldn’t have known that prob because I was never a Verne fan (not for any particular reason) so yeah, it would have been by happenstance that I found that out myself. There really is a lot of interesting information out there that we’ve never heard!