@heartny Yes, it is important to extricate the cats and shut the bedroom door before getting into bed at night. Difficult to sleep with a ~20lb fur-ball on your chest, kneading and purring like a chainsaw.
@mikesmells If you like that then you’ve got to try a really good 3 to 4" featherbed! I couldn’t believe how it changed my brand new (but uncomfortable) bed into the BEST bed I’ve ever had! Sometimes you just don’t know until you know, go figure!
Actually the European “featherbed” cover is probably the original “weighted blanket.”
Also my mother tells me that in Switzerland as a child, they would warm the bed by putting warm stones heated on the kitchen coal oven into the bed first to warm it up.
@Kyeh@tinamarie1974 I have 2 linen comforter covers that are 12 years old, and they are still in great shape. Other than softening a bit with age, they haven’t shown any sign of wear or loss of color. I wash them (and really, everything else) using warm water and white vinegar as fabric softener; dry on low heat, or no heat (air dry) in summer. I’ve never ironed them, and I don’t like the feel of linen that has been ironed. They are oddly both cooler in summer and warmer in winter than cotton. I have sheets and pillowcases in both cotton and linen. I’m okay with either, but the comforter cover has to be linen.
@tinamarie1974 Yes. Liquid goo “fabric softener” is just evil. Use distilled white vinegar, but only the 5% solution. Stronger than 5% is bad for the seals in the washer and dryer.
@rockblossom@tinamarie1974 Amen! Fabric softener makes me gag and leaves my skin feeling icky. Nice to know that linen is easy to take care of; I’ve had the mistaken idea that it wasn’t!
@Kyeh@tinamarie1974 well, no need to iron the sheets assuming you’re just going to go mess them up by sleeping in them anyway. If you want it to look 5-star hotel-ready, then maybe yes. Otherwise, why worry about it.
Also, yes, fabric softener is evil and we really should stop thinking it’s an essential laundry step.
@pmarin@tinamarie1974 Well, I have a few items of linen clothing that get so rumpled that they’re not very comfortable unless they’re ironed. Unsurprisingly, I don’t wear them much.
I’ve got the most comfortable bed ever! It’s got a adjustable base and I use a 3" featherbed on top of the customizable sleep number mattress. It’s also got the built-in massage system! (No quarters needed! wink wink ) My favorite sheets are the 400 thread count 100% cotton sateen sheets. I like the slightly silky feel of the sateen finish AND I find them to stay a little cooler.
My bed fellows, the cat and the guy, aren’t to shabby either!
Jus sayen!
My wife runs cold at night but I am like a furnace. So we usually start out together near the middle of the bed, her using my excess heat to warm up (and I’m fine with her chilly feet/hands ). As we acclimate, we each migrate to our respective sides, with me usually next to the edge where it is convenient to throw off covers or slip a leg out from under. So I probably spend most of the night occupying something less than 25% of the bed.
Basic flippable firm pocket-coil innerspring “bed in a box” mattress;
2" memory foam topper;
Quilted-cotton polyfill “fiber bed” (like a feather bed, but with synthetic filler);
Cotton sheets (needless to say).
The innerspring base mattress provides a durable, supportive foundation with nice bounce, the pocket coils and memory foam layer conform to body contours for evenly-distributed support, and the fiberbed adds a breathable layer on top with a bit of extra fluffy cush.
I can flip and rotate each layer independently to even out wear, and replace any individual layer when it bunches up or wears out – unlike an integrated pillowtop or most “hybrid” mattresses (whether all-foam layers or otherwise) which can’t be flipped and have to be entirely replaced when the pillow layer starts disintegrating.
@SubGothius That sounds l like a good combo. Hard to find “flippable” anything anymore (except houses, though that didn’t work out well for people doing it this year either…). For the polyfill “fiber bed” I’m trying to get away from the huge amounts of poly. It seems almost impossible to find ones with non-poly fill. The best I could find is I think what you mention – cover is cotton but filling is polyester.
@pmarin@SubGothius
I don’t like those alternative fillers either so that’s why I stick with the feathers even though I’ve always been allergic they don’t bother me in the toppers or comforters. What are the reasons you guys don’t like the feather beds?
I got my flippable pocket-coil innerspring from Overstock, looks like they still offer them. Before I discovered those, was gonna buy one from SpringAir for 2-3 times the price, tho’ the cheaper “bed in a box” types lack firm sidewalls; that’s how they can compress and roll them up to ship in a box.
AFAIK polyfill and down-feathers are the only types of fill available for this type of quilted plush topper (not just a mattress pad/protector), prolly cuz nothing else maintains loft and breathability. IMO the key thing is to have no synthetics against the skin, so a 100% cotton shell at least for the top facing is a must.
good company
My pillow
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@mcemanuel The Giza Dream Sheets are amazing. Believe the hype. Find a coupon code and queen is quite reasonable. Thank me later.
Um… sex?
@shahnm if you sleep while having sex at least one of you is doing it wrong.
@pmarin But which one…?
or my kitty
Cats
@heartny Yes, it is important to extricate the cats and shut the bedroom door before getting into bed at night. Difficult to sleep with a ~20lb fur-ball on your chest, kneading and purring like a chainsaw.
/image cat are you awake
My trick is a blanket under me, a blanket instead of a sheet and a thick comforter. Absolutely blissful on the coldest nights but a nightmare to leave
@mikesmells If you like that then you’ve got to try a really good 3 to 4" featherbed! I couldn’t believe how it changed my brand new (but uncomfortable) bed into the BEST bed I’ve ever had! Sometimes you just don’t know until you know, go figure!
@Lynnerizer this sounds absolutely delightful!!!
I am going to look for one today, thank you for the suggestion!
Actually the European “featherbed” cover is probably the original “weighted blanket.”
Also my mother tells me that in Switzerland as a child, they would warm the bed by putting warm stones heated on the kitchen coal oven into the bed first to warm it up.
I recently got an adjustable base, and I can’t believe I used to sleep on a flat surface like a cave person.
A great mattress, and a heated mattress pad. Oh, and cotton sheets (I hear linen is nice too.)
@Kyeh linen is lovely
@tinamarie1974 I still haven’t tried it; one of these days!
@Kyeh I found a steal of a deal on tjmaxx.com and I used xmas/birthday gift cards to pay for most if it. Only one set, because well they are pricy.
@tinamarie1974 Nice! Are they easy to maintain? Do you have to iron them?
@Kyeh @tinamarie1974 I have 2 linen comforter covers that are 12 years old, and they are still in great shape. Other than softening a bit with age, they haven’t shown any sign of wear or loss of color. I wash them (and really, everything else) using warm water and white vinegar as fabric softener; dry on low heat, or no heat (air dry) in summer. I’ve never ironed them, and I don’t like the feel of linen that has been ironed. They are oddly both cooler in summer and warmer in winter than cotton. I have sheets and pillowcases in both cotton and linen. I’m okay with either, but the comforter cover has to be linen.
@Kyeh @rockblossom agree with everything RB daid above, but ummm…vinegar works as a FABRIC SOFTENER???
@tinamarie1974 Yes. Liquid goo “fabric softener” is just evil. Use distilled white vinegar, but only the 5% solution. Stronger than 5% is bad for the seals in the washer and dryer.
https://www.consumerreports.org/appliances/laundry/why-fabric-softener-is-bad-for-your-laundry-a5931009251/
https://www.thespruce.com/top-uses-for-vinegar-in-laundry-2147286
@rockblossom @tinamarie1974 Amen! Fabric softener makes me gag and leaves my skin feeling icky. Nice to know that linen is easy to take care of; I’ve had the mistaken idea that it wasn’t!
@Kyeh @tinamarie1974 well, no need to iron the sheets assuming you’re just going to go mess them up by sleeping in them anyway. If you want it to look 5-star hotel-ready, then maybe yes. Otherwise, why worry about it.
Also, yes, fabric softener is evil and we really should stop thinking it’s an essential laundry step.
@pmarin @tinamarie1974 Well, I have a few items of linen clothing that get so rumpled that they’re not very comfortable unless they’re ironed.
Unsurprisingly, I don’t wear them much.
All of the above…
Putting the bed in the corner of the room so I can really wedge myself in there.
A bottle of fortified wine
@tweezak makes the cardboard box in the alley behind the 7-11 a lot more comfy…
@pmarin CaseMates should sell Night Train or Boone’s Farm.
A weighted blanket
Sex and booze…
@2many2no
in that order?
@2many2no @chienfou If you want the best results, yes.
@chienfou @werehatrack Drunken soldier has trouble standing up
I’ve got the most comfortable bed ever! It’s got a adjustable base and I use a 3" featherbed on top of the customizable sleep number mattress. It’s also got the built-in massage system!
(No quarters needed! wink wink 
) My favorite sheets are the 400 thread count 100% cotton sateen sheets. I like the slightly silky feel of the sateen finish AND I find them to stay a little cooler.
My bed fellows, the cat and the guy, aren’t to shabby either!
Jus sayen!
@Lynnerizer that sounds wonderful!!
@tinamarie1974
Yes it really is!
We have a king-sized bed. My wife gets 50% and I get 50%. However, she gets the middle 50% and I get 25% on each side. She told me that’s fair.
@capnjb
At least it’s a king!
@capnjb As long as you have overhead transit privileges between your two sides
@capnjb @chienfou King-sized bed ruled by the queen.
My wife runs cold at night but I am like a furnace. So we usually start out together near the middle of the bed, her using my excess heat to warm up (and I’m fine with her chilly feet/hands
). As we acclimate, we each migrate to our respective sides, with me usually next to the edge where it is convenient to throw off covers or slip a leg out from under. So I probably spend most of the night occupying something less than 25% of the bed.
@capnjb @macromeh
that sounds just like our house! Plus it’s easier to get up to go pee…
@capnjb @duodec Are you sure there’s not an alternate/backup husband on the other side?
@capnjb @duodec @pmarin
Lol
@duodec @pmarin Too much work to check
My recipe:
The innerspring base mattress provides a durable, supportive foundation with nice bounce, the pocket coils and memory foam layer conform to body contours for evenly-distributed support, and the fiberbed adds a breathable layer on top with a bit of extra fluffy cush.
I can flip and rotate each layer independently to even out wear, and replace any individual layer when it bunches up or wears out – unlike an integrated pillowtop or most “hybrid” mattresses (whether all-foam layers or otherwise) which can’t be flipped and have to be entirely replaced when the pillow layer starts disintegrating.
@SubGothius That sounds l like a good combo. Hard to find “flippable” anything anymore (except houses, though that didn’t work out well for people doing it this year either…). For the polyfill “fiber bed” I’m trying to get away from the huge amounts of poly. It seems almost impossible to find ones with non-poly fill. The best I could find is I think what you mention – cover is cotton but filling is polyester.
@pmarin @SubGothius
I don’t like those alternative fillers either so that’s why I stick with the feathers even though I’ve always been allergic they don’t bother me in the toppers or comforters. What are the reasons you guys don’t like the feather beds?
I got my flippable pocket-coil innerspring from Overstock, looks like they still offer them. Before I discovered those, was gonna buy one from SpringAir for 2-3 times the price, tho’ the cheaper “bed in a box” types lack firm sidewalls; that’s how they can compress and roll them up to ship in a box.
AFAIK polyfill and down-feathers are the only types of fill available for this type of quilted plush topper (not just a mattress pad/protector), prolly cuz nothing else maintains loft and breathability. IMO the key thing is to have no synthetics against the skin, so a 100% cotton shell at least for the top facing is a must.
Giant pillows.