@eeterrific@yakkoTDI So you only get involved with them after they have already been hooked then. Right?
Seems to me a flask, I think it was Matthew, was deboning a possum (? - the meh videos were ages ago so I have forgotten some of the details) body using bugs. Probably be easier for you with a standard sized trunk to remove just bones. Tell them your removal service requires deboning first.
@eeterrific@Kidsandliz I don’t know if they were hooked or not. You got a dead hooker? I got a removal service. Even if it is a situation like Patricia Vonne in Four Rooms.
@awk@ohhwell This entire confusion impacts my brain such that I think we will need meh to answer to drill down on the subject before we raise even more high holely hell.
@awk@ohhwell The drill is not a hammer drill. It does have a torque limiting slip clutch to prevent fastener overtorqing, which is important when doing woodwork and drywall. The impact driver is not a good choice for most drilling, and I have griped about their habitual listing of it as an impact drill. It’s not a freaking drill. It never was, and the manufacturer didn’t call it one. But somebody on the Side Deal staff apparently could not get that fact wired into their circuitry.
@awk You were right. The choice is indeed between a drill and an impact driver. There is no such thing as an impact drill. There are hammer drills but that is not what is for sale here.
@awk@ohhwell The drill does not have a hammer setting. It does have a no-slip setting on the drill clutch, and when it is not on that no-slip setting, people who do not know what the fleep they are dealing with will misinterpret the slipping of the clutch as being a hammering effect. It is not. This is just an ordinary variable speed, two-torque-range cordless drill.
I really wish that people who were selling shit had to know shit before they were allowed to say anything about it.
@weatherseed@werehatrack Doubtful TTC would bother. TL might have been viable a few years ago, but its reputation on Amazon has been damaged, so I see it more as a brand that’s winding down operations.
What I wouldn’t be surprised by is if they pop back up in a different name and color scheme in the future. On the most part, the tools are fine for the price.
@weatherseed Torque Test Channel and Project Farm have saved me so much money I would’ve never spent in the first place (actually though their battery tests are why I buy name brand). Forreal, both amazing channels!
@alx10mgmg@weatherseed if you are really concerned about torque and things like that, you would not be buying these. these are most likely the lower end of the B&D designs, and that’s not saying much.
the improvements in impact drivers in the last decade are phenomenal. most offer torque control because you actually do not want too much in some cases. some let you set advanced profiles for how to tighten or loosen a specific type fastener. some you can even program from your phone. obviously that’s not these tools. but for basic use and a starter set, these might be ok.
While I don’t have experience with these specific tools, I can say that getting an impact driver in addition to having a basic drill-driver was a nice upgrade. You can loosen stuck-on fasteners, and get fasteners a lot tighter than you would otherwise. If you don’t have a good 20V drill-driver get that first and then consider an impact driver.
@accumulator Probably not. The folks at Torque Test Chaanel have noted that many of the Chinese-made low-cost cordless tools imitate the connector and mount that Makita uses, but unfortunately, there are a lot of others which are visually similar but don’t fit. I have no clue where this one hits. Possibly more concerning, one of these comes with a Ni-Cad pack and the other with a lithium. And they don’t say whether they’ll interchange and fit both tools. I would want to know that. I haven’t checked to see if anybody has made an adapter available to use other brands of battery on these tools, but I suspect that that’s only going to have happened by accident
@accumulator Doubtful. P-C 20v is slightly modified from B&D 20V as they share the same parent company, Stanley Black and Decker (who also owns Craftsman and DeWalt).
P-C is square cut at one end, B&D is angled. One is notched on on the positive terminal side, the other opposite.
@accumulator@werehatrack from what I can see the drill is Li-Ion, not Ni-Cad. seems like a listing error. (a listing error here, on this site?? I’m shocked!)
/youtube casablanca shocked that gambling is happening
What is this cracklife I mean Tacklife? Brand seems to have come out of nowhere. Incompatible batteries with everything else I guess. And is nicad even still a thing? Wow.
@phr Chinese paste-on-label brand that got booted from the Zon for policy violations, but some of their stuff was pretty good. Had they not played fast and loose with the buying-five-star-ratings thing, they’d probably still be there. They appear to be related to the equally booted Aukey brand. Tacklife itself has autolysed and vanished for all intents and purposes, so the 90-day warranty from the seller here is the only support you’re going to get. There’s no place to ask questions, and there’s nobody to get spare parts or batteries from.
@narfcake@phr So, de-listed from a « reputable » site like Amazon (and that’s being pretty generous), but they end up here? Seems strangely appropriate.
I would say the little tacky-life jumpstarters have been pretty good.
An impact driver is not a drill. You can use it with special drill bits that have a quarter inch hex shank, but that does not make it a drill. There are places where using this as a drill is not the best idea. As a driver for installing and removing fasteners, it is better suited to being used in things like appliance and car repair than for driving screws to do things like hanging drywall.
The cordless drill is not a hammer drill, it is just a regular cordless drill, which can be used to drive screws, and can often be used with a masonry bit to make a hole in soft brick or other similar materials. It also serves quite well to drive screws in applications where an impact driver would be less ideal. To be useful for driving screws into drywall, it needs to have a variable clutch that will allow the bit to stop moving when a specific torque is reached. These drills have that.
Last, as mentioned in a reply above, these do not have a manufacturer’s warranty in fact, because the Tackife entity has ceased operations. As a result, the only warranty you’re going to get is the 90 days from the seller, and there is zero tech support or aftermarket battery and accessory availability. Any interchange with other brands that are available is at this point unidentified, unknown, and certainly not guaranteed.
both are Li-Ion batteries: impact kit looks like 2.0AH, drill 1.5AH. this means the text about nickel-cadmium is wrong.
impact kit looks like you get the « fast charger » and drill kit has simpler plug-on slower charger. both chargers should work with either battery.
both of these seem very similar to the B&D tool series as noted in an earlier comment, so it seems the origin of these is likely. note that from earlier comment, they are NOT interchangeable with B&D unless you do serious mods.
the tool kits included are different. the impact kit has sockets and a storage bag; the drill kit a hard plastic case with basic « homeowner » tools and bits.
comments:
both of these would be good for a very « starter » set of tools, if you really are starting with nothing.
if you get both, you at least have 2 batteries and 2 chargers which are compatible. the add-on tool kits are useful even if these tools « die »
the risk is that there’s probably no more support or parts like batteries for these (unless they show up here). with serious hacking these might be used on a B&D type system. But keep in mind that’s a fairly low-end tool system as well, but widely supported and available, unlike these.
on special events like holidays and the upcoming father’s day, it’s common to see $99 deals for drill+impact from brands like Ryobi and DeWalt. they would be the low-end sets of those brands but you have established brands and room to grow to better tools if you go that way; however you would not get the add-on tool kits included with these.
Here I am again with alternate suggestions. If you are right on money or need a new home owner gift search for Direct tool outlet and get a ryobi set, you’ll find a “11” piece kit for just a tad bit over $100. Ryobi is not Milwaukee but it’s good enough, well supported, and things go on sale constantly. DTO sells “factory blemished” but rumor has it that they are generally brand new and sold as that as Home Depot has exclusive selling rights.
I would like one of these to hook up to a power wheels modification I’m doing. Really make it sing.
@qazxto direct tools outlet is causing marital strife because once get on the mailing list that is it. They send you crazy deals but the shipping is a flat $15 so I always buy something else. I have a Ryobi brushless 3/8 impact that can take the lug nuts off my K20 suburban like nothing, absolutely life changing buying that. If you have a DTO store near you the tent sales are legendary
Last week I had a friend coming over to help me remodel my basement, and he asked what tools to bring, and I very clearly stated “bring an impact driver.” Dude shows up with a cordless drill. Some people, man.
@geekahedron Last time I had a friend come over to help me, I provided the tools, the food, and I didn’t talk crap about them on the internet. Some people, man.
Always wanted an impact driver, but couldn’t justify spending $100. If this one doesn’t work great (or doesn’t last long), I will just throw it away - and there is some misc crap included too, so I’ve got that coming to me lol…
@Commonwealth109 One of these 1/4" hex units is good for a lot of stuff, but it’s not going to have the beans to break lug nuts loose, among other things There are many levels of power in impact tools, and this is near the bottom. Between air and cordless ones, I have about ten. All useful, each with its own range of applicability
I bought a Tacklife drill from another site a few years ago after they got booted from Amzn. Drill worked fine but battery died after very few uses. As others have said, more or less impossible to get replacements. I got the B&D batteries since they were similar in specification and form factor and I was hoping they’d fit, but they don’t plug in to the Tacklife drill. I ended up getting a B&D drill to fit my new batteries and chucking the Tacklife in the bin.
You can see it has an extra selector next to the clutch strength selector. The one Meh is selling is the version with all the extra tools but it cannot operate as a hammer drill. The pictures meh shows and the link they have both are of the version that is NOT a hammer drill.
Can we get some confirmation Meh? Might be a few disappointed shoppers…
@ohhwell It appears, from the pictures, that the drill does not have a “hammer drill” function despite the item titles on other sites and description the vendor gave us. I’ll remove this spec; feel free to cancel if its a dealbreaker
Excellent comments today. I know what an impact driver is and I want one to add to my tool options, but did not know the status of Tack Life. Thanks, everyone that contributed!
@Jonas4321 I’ve learned years ago is that one isn’t buying a cordless tool but rather a battery platform. This might not matter much for folks who just need the basics, but if you know you’re going to need other tools in the future, then there’s definitely an argument in spending more and getting one with a track record.
@Jonas4321@narfcake Sometimes the key is to find the ecosystem that best balances cost vs real need for capabilities For me, that was Ryobi. For someone who uses their cordless tools all day, it’s more likely to be Makita or Milwaukee. For someone who needs to consult YouTube before assembling a complicated Ikeagram, these Tacklife units might be perfect. And at these prices, they have the low sunk cost which makes them fairly painless to leave behind if they end up lighting the fuse on an unsuspected DIY enthusiasm bomb.
Sometimes the key is to find the ecosystem that best balances cost vs real need for capabilities.
@Jonas4321@werehatrack +1. For many DIYers, it’s certainly not a requirement to spend $$$ for capabilities that aren’t necessary. Okay, so one saw can cut a 2x4 a couple seconds faster – but it’ll cost double. Production work, sure that time adds up. If it’s only trimming 10 studs for a wall, those 20 seconds isn’t worth that significantly higher price.
I’m mostly in the Skil PwrCore platforms nowadays, both 12V and 20V, driven mostly because many were bought cheap from Amazon Warehouse. The 12V (all brushless) are my go-to for their smaller size but still good performance, complete with a ½" chuck. It actually outperforms the standard 20V drill/driver with a brushed motor, which I also have because they were $10 bare at the time.
Finally got a chance to charge the drill up and test it out and… wow, if I had paid $100 for this I’d be livid. The chuck is so poorly centered that it’s completely and utterly useless as anything other than a loud heavy automated Spirograph.
Specs
Product Name: Tacklife 20V Cordless Drill or Impact Driver with 60-piece Tool Kit
Condition: New
Tacklife 20V Cordless Impact Drill with 1/4" Hex Chuck and 60-piece Tool Kit
Model: USAKKOA149722
Tacklife 20V Cordless Drill with 19-way clutch & 60-piece Tool Kit
Model: USAKKOAN1006448
Condition: New
What’s Included?
OR
Price Comparison
Drill: Was $78 at Walmart
Impact Driver: Was $88 at Walmart
More reviews (for ENGiNDOT brand) at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Sep 22 - Monday, Sep 25
Maybe I can use these to build a bigger trunk.
@yakkoTDI You own an elephant?
@eeterrific actually @yakkoTDI will then work to keep his/her murder shed fully utilized
@eeterrific @Kidsandliz I need to remind you that I just provide a removal service. I do not knowingly get involved with live hookers.
@eeterrific @yakkoTDI So you only get involved with them after they have already been hooked then. Right?
Seems to me a flask, I think it was Matthew, was deboning a possum (? - the meh videos were ages ago so I have forgotten some of the details) body using bugs. Probably be easier for you with a standard sized trunk to remove just bones. Tell them your removal service requires deboning first.
@eeterrific @Kidsandliz @yakkoTDI
@eeterrific @Kidsandliz @tinamarie1974 @yakkoTDI
@eeterrific @Kyeh @tinamarie1974 @yakkoTDI Hey they were original meh created videos. More than one.
@eeterrific @Kidsandliz I don’t know if they were hooked or not. You got a dead hooker? I got a removal service. Even if it is a situation like Patricia Vonne in Four Rooms.
@eeterrific @Kidsandliz @Kyeh @yakkoTDI they could have been, but still
I never watched the opossum ones b/c I thought they were geoss
@eeterrific @Kidsandliz @tinamarie1974 @yakkoTDI I never watched them either - and this whole line of thinking has just gotten too disgusting.
Hot pants!
@medz calling @oldcatlady. You might want to check if the body in the hot pants comes with the drill.
Is it a hammer drill or an impact drill? It says hammer drill up there.
Not that I will buy any of them tonight.
But I remember drilling into brick with a regular electric drill once and ruining it, because I didn’t have a hammer drill.
@awk Your choice. There are two items on sale at the same price.
@jandrese Now I’m more confused because I thought the choice was “regular drill” vs “impact driver”.
And the Walmart link says it’s an “electric screwdriver”???
edit: There is a model at the Walmart link that’s an impact driver with hammer action. But that’s not what’s for sale here.
However, an actual hammer is included, close enough?
I think it’s time for bed!
@awk they mistakenly call it an impact drill here and there when they really should consistently call it an impact driver.
Now, the actual drill also has the capability to operate as a hammer drill (not the same thing as impact).
@awk @ohhwell This entire confusion impacts my brain such that I think we will need meh to answer to drill down on the subject before we raise even more high holely hell.
@awk @ohhwell The drill is not a hammer drill. It does have a torque limiting slip clutch to prevent fastener overtorqing, which is important when doing woodwork and drywall. The impact driver is not a good choice for most drilling, and I have griped about their habitual listing of it as an impact drill. It’s not a freaking drill. It never was, and the manufacturer didn’t call it one. But somebody on the Side Deal staff apparently could not get that fact wired into their circuitry.
@awk You were right. The choice is indeed between a drill and an impact driver. There is no such thing as an impact drill. There are hammer drills but that is not what is for sale here.
@awk @Kidsandliz @ohhwell Where would we be without italics? We’d have to use bold or CAPs to make sure people GET it.
@awk @werehatrack Actually, if you look at the extended specs, the cordless drill can operate as a hammer drill.
Or are they also wrong about that?
@awk @ohhwell @rpstrong Well we’d be up shit creek I guess. There. Fixed it for you.
@awk @ohhwell The drill does not have a hammer setting. It does have a no-slip setting on the drill clutch, and when it is not on that no-slip setting, people who do not know what the fleep they are dealing with will misinterpret the slipping of the clutch as being a hammering effect. It is not. This is just an ordinary variable speed, two-torque-range cordless drill.
I really wish that people who were selling shit had to know shit before they were allowed to say anything about it.
I’ll need to see how it compares over at the Torque Test Channel first.
@weatherseed No data, never tested. No surprise.
@weatherseed @werehatrack Doubtful TTC would bother. TL might have been viable a few years ago, but its reputation on Amazon has been damaged, so I see it more as a brand that’s winding down operations.
What I wouldn’t be surprised by is if they pop back up in a different name and color scheme in the future. On the most part, the tools are fine for the price.
@weatherseed Torque Test Channel and Project Farm have saved me so much money I would’ve never spent in the first place
(actually though their battery tests are why I buy name brand). Forreal, both amazing channels!
@alx10mgmg @weatherseed if you are really concerned about torque and things like that, you would not be buying these. these are most likely the lower end of the B&D designs, and that’s not saying much.
the improvements in impact drivers in the last decade are phenomenal. most offer torque control because you actually do not want too much in some cases. some let you set advanced profiles for how to tighten or loosen a specific type fastener. some you can even program from your phone. obviously that’s not these tools. but for basic use and a starter set, these might be ok.
While I don’t have experience with these specific tools, I can say that getting an impact driver in addition to having a basic drill-driver was a nice upgrade. You can loosen stuck-on fasteners, and get fasteners a lot tighter than you would otherwise. If you don’t have a good 20V drill-driver get that first and then consider an impact driver.
Does anyone know if these use the porter-cable style battery packs?
@accumulator Probably not. The folks at Torque Test Chaanel have noted that many of the Chinese-made low-cost cordless tools imitate the connector and mount that Makita uses, but unfortunately, there are a lot of others which are visually similar but don’t fit. I have no clue where this one hits. Possibly more concerning, one of these comes with a Ni-Cad pack and the other with a lithium. And they don’t say whether they’ll interchange and fit both tools. I would want to know that. I haven’t checked to see if anybody has made an adapter available to use other brands of battery on these tools, but I suspect that that’s only going to have happened by accident
@accumulator Doubtful. P-C 20v is slightly modified from B&D 20V as they share the same parent company, Stanley Black and Decker (who also owns Craftsman and DeWalt).
P-C is square cut at one end, B&D is angled. One is notched on on the positive terminal side, the other opposite.
@accumulator @werehatrack from what I can see the drill is Li-Ion, not Ni-Cad. seems like a listing error. (a listing error here, on this site?? I’m shocked!)
/youtube casablanca shocked that gambling is happening
What is this cracklife I mean Tacklife? Brand seems to have come out of nowhere. Incompatible batteries with everything else I guess. And is nicad even still a thing? Wow.
@phr Chinese paste-on-label brand that got booted from the Zon for policy violations, but some of their stuff was pretty good. Had they not played fast and loose with the buying-five-star-ratings thing, they’d probably still be there. They appear to be related to the equally booted Aukey brand. Tacklife itself has autolysed and vanished for all intents and purposes, so the 90-day warranty from the seller here is the only support you’re going to get. There’s no place to ask questions, and there’s nobody to get spare parts or batteries from.
@phr They were selling pretty well on Amazon, but their unscrupulous review practices got them kicked off.
@narfcake @phr So, de-listed from a « reputable » site like Amazon (and that’s being pretty generous), but they end up here? Seems strangely appropriate.
I would say the little tacky-life jumpstarters have been pretty good.
For purposes of clarity:
An impact driver is not a drill. You can use it with special drill bits that have a quarter inch hex shank, but that does not make it a drill. There are places where using this as a drill is not the best idea. As a driver for installing and removing fasteners, it is better suited to being used in things like appliance and car repair than for driving screws to do things like hanging drywall.
The cordless drill is not a hammer drill, it is just a regular cordless drill, which can be used to drive screws, and can often be used with a masonry bit to make a hole in soft brick or other similar materials. It also serves quite well to drive screws in applications where an impact driver would be less ideal. To be useful for driving screws into drywall, it needs to have a variable clutch that will allow the bit to stop moving when a specific torque is reached. These drills have that.
Last, as mentioned in a reply above, these do not have a manufacturer’s warranty in fact, because the Tackife entity has ceased operations. As a result, the only warranty you’re going to get is the 90 days from the seller, and there is zero tech support or aftermarket battery and accessory availability. Any interchange with other brands that are available is at this point unidentified, unknown, and certainly not guaranteed.
noted some useful facts I saw in the info:
comments:
Here I am again with alternate suggestions. If you are right on money or need a new home owner gift search for Direct tool outlet and get a ryobi set, you’ll find a “11” piece kit for just a tad bit over $100. Ryobi is not Milwaukee but it’s good enough, well supported, and things go on sale constantly. DTO sells “factory blemished” but rumor has it that they are generally brand new and sold as that as Home Depot has exclusive selling rights.
I would like one of these to hook up to a power wheels modification I’m doing. Really make it sing.
@qazxto looks like the sale has ended but ryobi is always going on sale, Father’s Day Black Friday etc are good times.
@qazxto direct tools outlet is causing marital strife because once get on the mailing list that is it. They send you crazy deals but the shipping is a flat $15 so I always buy something else. I have a Ryobi brushless 3/8 impact that can take the lug nuts off my K20 suburban like nothing, absolutely life changing buying that. If you have a DTO store near you the tent sales are legendary
@oldmantick I understand. The following below is fictional and names have been changed to protect privacy.
Me: I need a soldering iron. Oh DTO is a lot cheaper than HD. Great! I love saving money.
Also me: Oh there is a flat fee shipping charge, $15 ouch. Guess I might as well get that lawnmower and electrostatic sprayer cause shipping fees.
Wife: … good job “saving” $20 bucks on that soldering iron by spending on another lawnmower and weird sprayer thingy b
Last week I had a friend coming over to help me remodel my basement, and he asked what tools to bring, and I very clearly stated “bring an impact driver.” Dude shows up with a cordless drill. Some people, man.
@geekahedron Last time I had a friend come over to help me, I provided the tools, the food, and I didn’t talk crap about them on the internet. Some people, man.
@geekahedron If you were doing remodeling, that drill was the more appropriate tool IME.
Always wanted an impact driver, but couldn’t justify spending $100. If this one doesn’t work great (or doesn’t last long), I will just throw it away - and there is some misc crap included too, so I’ve got that coming to me lol…
@Commonwealth109 One of these 1/4" hex units is good for a lot of stuff, but it’s not going to have the beans to break lug nuts loose, among other things There are many levels of power in impact tools, and this is near the bottom. Between air and cordless ones, I have about ten. All useful, each with its own range of applicability
WOW, so they’re saying the rechargeable battery is actually rechargeable?! Fantastic!!
@MrNews Not only that, but the charger will work more than once, too!
Unearthing this image was worth the purchase price for whatever it was I bought.
Honestly, all it needs to do is save me from going to the Home Depot twice and the gas money I save pays for this thing.
“Choose Wisely.”
So, buy something else?
I bought a Tacklife drill from another site a few years ago after they got booted from Amzn. Drill worked fine but battery died after very few uses. As others have said, more or less impossible to get replacements. I got the B&D batteries since they were similar in specification and form factor and I was hoping they’d fit, but they don’t plug in to the Tacklife drill. I ended up getting a B&D drill to fit my new batteries and chucking the Tacklife in the bin.
OK so… I don’t think that this cordless drill can operate as a hammer drill. If you look at the listing for the one that actually can at this link
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TACKLIFE-20V-Power-Drill-Cordless-Driver-Impact-Drill-2-0Ah-Lithium-Ion-Battery-Hammer-Action-1-2-Metal-Auto-locking-Chuck-2-Speed-Max-Torque-310-In-/367826919
You can see it has an extra selector next to the clutch strength selector. The one Meh is selling is the version with all the extra tools but it cannot operate as a hammer drill. The pictures meh shows and the link they have both are of the version that is NOT a hammer drill.
Can we get some confirmation Meh? Might be a few disappointed shoppers…
@Troy a little before-sale customer support seems wise here.
@ohhwell It appears, from the pictures, that the drill does not have a “hammer drill” function despite the item titles on other sites and description the vendor gave us. I’ll remove this spec; feel free to cancel if its a dealbreaker
@troy Thank you for confirmation and correcting. I didn’t purchase yet.
In fact, i am rather wacky wanting hammer.
Excellent comments today. I know what an impact driver is and I want one to add to my tool options, but did not know the status of Tack Life. Thanks, everyone that contributed!
@Jonas4321 I’ve learned years ago is that one isn’t buying a cordless tool but rather a battery platform. This might not matter much for folks who just need the basics, but if you know you’re going to need other tools in the future, then there’s definitely an argument in spending more and getting one with a track record.
@Jonas4321 @narfcake Sometimes the key is to find the ecosystem that best balances cost vs real need for capabilities For me, that was Ryobi. For someone who uses their cordless tools all day, it’s more likely to be Makita or Milwaukee. For someone who needs to consult YouTube before assembling a complicated Ikeagram, these Tacklife units might be perfect. And at these prices, they have the low sunk cost which makes them fairly painless to leave behind if they end up lighting the fuse on an unsuspected DIY enthusiasm bomb.
@Jonas4321 @werehatrack +1. For many DIYers, it’s certainly not a requirement to spend $$$ for capabilities that aren’t necessary. Okay, so one saw can cut a 2x4 a couple seconds faster – but it’ll cost double. Production work, sure that time adds up. If it’s only trimming 10 studs for a wall, those 20 seconds isn’t worth that significantly higher price.
I’m mostly in the Skil PwrCore platforms nowadays, both 12V and 20V, driven mostly because many were bought cheap from Amazon Warehouse. The 12V (all brushless) are my go-to for their smaller size but still good performance, complete with a ½" chuck. It actually outperforms the standard 20V drill/driver with a brushed motor, which I also have because they were $10 bare at the time.
Finally got a chance to charge the drill up and test it out and… wow, if I had paid $100 for this I’d be livid. The chuck is so poorly centered that it’s completely and utterly useless as anything other than a loud heavy automated Spirograph.