Depends on the application. Wisdom is like street smarts where as intelligence is book smarts. If you’re trying to get a job in a specific field, intelligence may be more valuable.
Wisdom and Intelligence are not mutually exclusive but they are not mutually inclusive.
Now that being said, there is a difference between being smart and being intelligent too.
So I had some fun with google
one right-wing religious site had this to say:
Wisdom is the “quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment.” Biblically, the fear of God is the very beginning of wisdom (liberal “nerds” no doubt snort with laughter at this concept). Intelligence can help in the accumulation of knowledge, but intelligence does not automatically create knowledge.
I agree with the last two lines completely.
One of those life hack sites said it much better:
What is the difference between knowledge and wisdom?It’s being aware of something, and having information. Knowledge is really about facts and ideas that we acquire through study, research, investigation, observation, or experience. Wisdom is the ability to discern and judge which aspects of that knowledge are true, right, lasting, and applicable to your life.
Yet another said:
Wisdom is bred through the acquisition of knowledge. Only when one is intelligent enough to truly grasp the concept of the knowledge that he/she gained, can one be considered wise. If one does not have the intelligence to understand the true meaning of whatever knowledge that he has acquired (And bringing out a half-assed explanation from it), he is not getting any wiser.
So here is where I hmmm’d about smart vs intelligent.
Another site said:
Smart vs Intelligent
For many people, there is no difference between smart and intelligent, because the words seem to be interchangeable. However, there is a difference between the meanings and use of these words.
Smart can be applied to learned inferences, such as making smart business or emotional decisions. Smart is an earned status. When we study and learn, we become smarter in the subject matter. Book smart or street smart, we have to put effort into becoming smarter.
Intelligence, on the other hand, is a measure of your ability to learn. This can apply to terms we chronically associate with intelligence, like math, or it can apply to your ability to learn negotiation of emotional issues.
This site had too much about genetics (i didn’t want to get into the nature vs nurture argument because, well it would apply too)
So which would I rather be? I don’t want to have to choose thank you very much. I’ll take it all for 1000 Alex
I read something years ago (I cannot remember where) about studies of young persons who become successfully self-employed as adults.
(one study esp looked at kids who were self-employed in diff field than the parents, or who started small businesses on their own)
Obviously this group is going to contain many different types of starting profiles, and lots of extreme outliers.
There was a “center” of the statistical mess the emerged, tho.
These HS students most likely to go
this way are most likely to be:
From the middle class or higher (a factor for obvious reasons, including neighborhood and home safety, and growing up knowing how to be comfortable among successful and confident adults.)
From emotionality stable households that are not chronically-stress-filled.
From households with savings and non-showy lifestyles.
From parents who encourage common-sense-type independence, who encourage the kids to take responsibility for costs and errors, and then move forward.
Most usually “A” or “B” students in HS (the “B” kids could have been “A” students but perhaps didn’t want to work that hard, or were more into friends, sports or other hobbies)
Have tons of friends and are well-accepted but aren’t (and aren’t in the competition for) most-popular. They are pretty well-liked, by acquaintances and the like, and by the family members of their friends, as well as by friends.
Aren’t either assholes or victims. They have a solid sense of self and emotional boundaries, don’t let themselves be pushed around, and don’t push others around either.
Their social and emotional relationships tend to be “easy-going”, strong, and non-dramatic.
Are inclined to explore and try things, but weigh the probability of success IRL at each step. Aren’t much into fantastical thinking in their own daily lives, however much they might like it as a game/film/literary genre.
They tend to possess and act on a lot of “common sense”.
As adults they seek a stable and happy home life. They are not terribly attracted to having every latest gadget, or to social climbing.
They are, more often than not, loyal and considerate and honest, also in their businesses practices as adults.
I think the article I read was published around the late 1980’s or early 1990’s. So the studies it summarized were done before that.
So these studies were done before digital and online life took over so much of our existences.
I hope I kinda of remembered all that with some accuracy.
That description above covers the most common configuration.
In career fields where high degrees of technical expertise or higher education were necessary, the most common configurations tilted a bit.
“Having a lot of friends in HS” become somewhat less common. The kids were far more likely to be “A” students, and far more likely to be obsessed with knowledge-seeking, and far more likely to be heavy readers or heavy tinkerers.
Coming from a stable, non-dramatic household with quiet lifestyle became a bit less of a predictor, and emotional stability in the kid was a somewhat less weighty factor.
Somewhat more frequently, in these cases, the parents were “driven” in their own lives, and often (tho not always) those parents also put notable and constant pressure on their own children.
@Cerridwyn “Biblically, the fear of God is the very beginning of wisdom (liberal “nerds” no doubt snort with laughter at this concept).”
Translate God in the sentence to the vast unknowable, and powers greater than you which can affect your life, a fairly apt description of God as perceived in Biblical times, and that makes complete sense. I would phrase it more as: The beginning of wisdom is the honest appraisal of yourself, and the role and relationship of yourself to others and the world around you.
Biblically, the fear of God is the very beginning of wisdom (liberal “nerds” no doubt snort with laughter at this concept)
I have no use for “the fear of God”. Used to (as a kid) argue this continually with my parents (who were mostly excellent humans).
No doubt I was quite arrogant and obnoxious and self-satisfied and full of myself, in the way of kids and teenagers who think they are smart. No doubt I have not entirely gotten over these shortcomings.
But if I were to have a traditional sort of faith in a Abrahamic God, “fear of a divine power” (as a portion of my attitude) could go take a long walk off a short pier.
My argument at that time: if that God created all, then in that case, the creation of sentient, inquisitive, argumentative, challenging, rule-breaking biological creatures was intentional.
And if humans are assumed to have free will and some capacity for independent evaluation, then “fear” isn’t a viable reason for doing as one’s God has ordered (has ordered according to the extent literature).
Separate item:
FWIW, I know or know of a fair number of politically liberal religious believers who have serious faith, and politically quite conservative agnostics and atheists.
But fundamentalist faith does seems to hang more with political conservatism at the moment.
Re:
Translate “God” in the sentence to the vast unknowable, and powers greater than you which can affect your life, a fairly apt description of God as perceived in Biblical times, and that makes complete sense. I would phrase it more as: The beginning of wisdom is the honest appraisal of yourself, and the role and relationship of yourself to others and the world around you.
Yes (for me).
The hardest thing of all sometimes seems to be to know - or have a decent appraisal of - what each or us (or all if us together), don’t know.
This is obviously a huge limitation of thinking within prejudice, or within strong emotion, or within unchallenged tradition.
But it can be a particular weakness of “logical thinking”. The power of the tool of logic is always double-edged, it always defines and limits a current scope as it illuminates. What is outside, yet unseen or unlooked-for?
Cf: The Best And The Brightest contents.
Or Facebook
This overwhelming “Shakespearan flaw” did, IRL - and has, repeatedly, in history and literature - brought low “the great and powerful” and their plans. And their victims.
Yes
I feel like intelligence is a more active approach to situations so I’d choose intelligence.
you need both. I think wisdom is the application of intelligence.
@sgrazi Intelligence is being right in an argument against your wife. Wisdom is not proving her wrong.
@lichme @sgrazi
Not “argument” with your wife?
Hmmmm.
Intelligence is more enjoyable. Wisdom makes you more enjoyable to be around.
It depends; what character class are you building?
@Sabre99 damn it, beat me to it. Was gonna make a joke about clerics and wizards…
@Sabre99 @spitfire6006006 As a guy who liked playing barbarians I didn’t know you could spell “dump stat” that way.
One horse-sized duck.
Am I doing this right?
@ACraigL
You are Wise.
/image “horse-sized duck”
/giphy “horse-sized duck”
Wisdom is peace, intelligence is never at rest. While I feel I have a good deal more intelligence than wisdom, I could sure use some peace.
Depends on the application. Wisdom is like street smarts where as intelligence is book smarts. If you’re trying to get a job in a specific field, intelligence may be more valuable.
Neither.
/giphy ignorance is bliss
Let me borrow both of them for a bit and I’ll report back.
Wisdom is intelligence, then seasoned by well-understood and well-tempered experience, and by deep reflection.
So says the @f00l.
What a @f00l ish thing to say!
@ELUNO
As always.
The great thing about being a @f00l is that the excuses for ongoing idiocy are automatic, obvious, and built-in.
Wisdom. People are always saying I’m wise.
Well, they say ‘wise ass’, but that’s the same, right?
@kdemo apparently I’m just a smart ass.
@RiotDemon - You are young grasshopper, but you will learn.
@kdemo I aspire to be a wise ass like you.
It’s interesting to see how people answer or where people take the questions I leave here.
Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not using it in a fruit salad.
Wisdom and Intelligence are not mutually exclusive but they are not mutually inclusive.
Now that being said, there is a difference between being smart and being intelligent too.
So I had some fun with google
one right-wing religious site had this to say:
Wisdom is the “quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment.” Biblically, the fear of God is the very beginning of wisdom (liberal “nerds” no doubt snort with laughter at this concept). Intelligence can help in the accumulation of knowledge, but intelligence does not automatically create knowledge.
I agree with the last two lines completely.
One of those life hack sites said it much better:
What is the difference between knowledge and wisdom?It’s being aware of something, and having information. Knowledge is really about facts and ideas that we acquire through study, research, investigation, observation, or experience. Wisdom is the ability to discern and judge which aspects of that knowledge are true, right, lasting, and applicable to your life.
Yet another said:
Wisdom is bred through the acquisition of knowledge. Only when one is intelligent enough to truly grasp the concept of the knowledge that he/she gained, can one be considered wise. If one does not have the intelligence to understand the true meaning of whatever knowledge that he has acquired (And bringing out a half-assed explanation from it), he is not getting any wiser.
So here is where I hmmm’d about smart vs intelligent.
Another site said:
Smart vs Intelligent
For many people, there is no difference between smart and intelligent, because the words seem to be interchangeable. However, there is a difference between the meanings and use of these words.
Smart can be applied to learned inferences, such as making smart business or emotional decisions. Smart is an earned status. When we study and learn, we become smarter in the subject matter. Book smart or street smart, we have to put effort into becoming smarter.
Intelligence, on the other hand, is a measure of your ability to learn. This can apply to terms we chronically associate with intelligence, like math, or it can apply to your ability to learn negotiation of emotional issues.
This site had too much about genetics (i didn’t want to get into the nature vs nurture argument because, well it would apply too)
So which would I rather be? I don’t want to have to choose thank you very much. I’ll take it all for 1000 Alex
@Cerridwyn
I read something years ago (I cannot remember where) about studies of young persons who become successfully self-employed as adults.
(one study esp looked at kids who were self-employed in diff field than the parents, or who started small businesses on their own)
Obviously this group is going to contain many different types of starting profiles, and lots of extreme outliers.
There was a “center” of the statistical mess the emerged, tho.
These HS students most likely to go
this way are most likely to be:
From the middle class or higher (a factor for obvious reasons, including neighborhood and home safety, and growing up knowing how to be comfortable among successful and confident adults.)
From emotionality stable households that are not chronically-stress-filled.
From households with savings and non-showy lifestyles.
From parents who encourage common-sense-type independence, who encourage the kids to take responsibility for costs and errors, and then move forward.
Most usually “A” or “B” students in HS (the “B” kids could have been “A” students but perhaps didn’t want to work that hard, or were more into friends, sports or other hobbies)
Have tons of friends and are well-accepted but aren’t (and aren’t in the competition for) most-popular. They are pretty well-liked, by acquaintances and the like, and by the family members of their friends, as well as by friends.
Aren’t either assholes or victims. They have a solid sense of self and emotional boundaries, don’t let themselves be pushed around, and don’t push others around either.
Their social and emotional relationships tend to be “easy-going”, strong, and non-dramatic.
Are inclined to explore and try things, but weigh the probability of success IRL at each step. Aren’t much into fantastical thinking in their own daily lives, however much they might like it as a game/film/literary genre.
They tend to possess and act on a lot of “common sense”.
As adults they seek a stable and happy home life. They are not terribly attracted to having every latest gadget, or to social climbing.
They are, more often than not, loyal and considerate and honest, also in their businesses practices as adults.
I think the article I read was published around the late 1980’s or early 1990’s. So the studies it summarized were done before that.
So these studies were done before digital and online life took over so much of our existences.
I hope I kinda of remembered all that with some accuracy.
That description above covers the most common configuration.
In career fields where high degrees of technical expertise or higher education were necessary, the most common configurations tilted a bit.
“Having a lot of friends in HS” become somewhat less common. The kids were far more likely to be “A” students, and far more likely to be obsessed with knowledge-seeking, and far more likely to be heavy readers or heavy tinkerers.
Coming from a stable, non-dramatic household with quiet lifestyle became a bit less of a predictor, and emotional stability in the kid was a somewhat less weighty factor.
Somewhat more frequently, in these cases, the parents were “driven” in their own lives, and often (tho not always) those parents also put notable and constant pressure on their own children.
@Cerridwyn “Biblically, the fear of God is the very beginning of wisdom (liberal “nerds” no doubt snort with laughter at this concept).”
Translate God in the sentence to the vast unknowable, and powers greater than you which can affect your life, a fairly apt description of God as perceived in Biblical times, and that makes complete sense. I would phrase it more as: The beginning of wisdom is the honest appraisal of yourself, and the role and relationship of yourself to others and the world around you.
@Cerridwyn @moondrake
I have no use for “the fear of God”. Used to (as a kid) argue this continually with my parents (who were mostly excellent humans).
No doubt I was quite arrogant and obnoxious and self-satisfied and full of myself, in the way of kids and teenagers who think they are smart. No doubt I have not entirely gotten over these shortcomings.
But if I were to have a traditional sort of faith in a Abrahamic God, “fear of a divine power” (as a portion of my attitude) could go take a long walk off a short pier.
My argument at that time: if that God created all, then in that case, the creation of sentient, inquisitive, argumentative, challenging, rule-breaking biological creatures was intentional.
And if humans are assumed to have free will and some capacity for independent evaluation, then “fear” isn’t a viable reason for doing as one’s God has ordered (has ordered according to the extent literature).
Separate item:
FWIW, I know or know of a fair number of politically liberal religious believers who have serious faith, and politically quite conservative agnostics and atheists.
But fundamentalist faith does seems to hang more with political conservatism at the moment.
Re:
Yes (for me).
The hardest thing of all sometimes seems to be to know - or have a decent appraisal of - what each or us (or all if us together), don’t know.
This is obviously a huge limitation of thinking within prejudice, or within strong emotion, or within unchallenged tradition.
But it can be a particular weakness of “logical thinking”. The power of the tool of logic is always double-edged, it always defines and limits a current scope as it illuminates.
What is outside, yet unseen or unlooked-for?
Cf: The Best And The Brightest contents.
Or Facebook
This overwhelming “Shakespearan flaw” did, IRL - and has, repeatedly, in history and literature - brought low “the great and powerful” and their plans. And their victims.
And this flaw lives in all of us every day.
Intelligence sharpens wisdom, and wisdom hones intelligence. One is less fulfilling without the other.
I’ll stick with what God and Solomon said… Wisdom. And with Wisdom get Understanding.
Intelligence is stocking up on batteries and plugging in the refrigerator.
Wisdom is storing those batteries in that refrigerator!
/giphy drop mic
