@djslack@mehmoth Meh. You are still giving a good enough deal to compare apples to apples I hate it when you exaggerate by comparing apples to oranges.
Seems like marketing crap, to me. What’s the benefit of stainless steel over plastic, other than $5-7 vs 2/$1 for plastic (+ recyclable once they get grody) at the dollar store?) Okay, maybe plastic/BPA. But how much liquids do you really drink, in a day? And what’s your relative exposure to any possible harmful substances in the plastic ones? Sheesh, I guess I’m old, because I don’t worry that much about exposure to odd off-the-wall substances from plastic containers anymore. But $7 cups seems extremely overpriced to me. Especially since they can’t go in the dishwasher. Hmmphh.
@cbl_wv the stainless doesn’t sweat like a plastic cup. I don’t have these but have a couple other vacuum stainless steel cups. Keeps ice in my cup longer. Also does a good job of keeping my coffee warm. We actually thinned out most of our plastic cups. I guess for me it’s all about the insulation properties.
@cbl_wv@dnh127 A good quality double walled plastic cup insulates really well too and doesn’t sweat- I love Tervis cups. But they’re way more expensive than these.
Unless you’re looking for this specific tumbler, the Walmart Ozark Trail stainless steel tumblers work as well as other well known brands. They occasionally go on sale as well.
CEO: “We have these coffee mugs specifically shaped for cup holders in cars far outside our normal product lines we typically excel in. They’re not selling. Ideas people.”
Marketing Exec: “Make up or dupe a ‘healthy’ cause and slap their logo on them. People are all for the appearance of being healthy with minimal effort. Now they can enjoy their overpriced coffee while dreaming about biking up a mountain while sitting in rush hour traffic they would have made it through on a bike an hour ago.”
How about some bike parts instead? I could use some 11 speed parts here. Or how about a full groupset so I’m not slowly piecing it together myself? Under $100 too, please.
(I’m $53 into a 1x11 conversion - cassette, shifter, crankarm, and 32 oval chainring already. Missing the derailleur and chain at the moment.)
@narfcake Unless you really need that extra gear a 1x10 probably would have been cheaper. My urban assault MTB was built with the 1x10 that came off my FS fatbike when it upgraded to 1x11.
@yakkoTDI How could I go any cheaper? That $53 is not a typo. All have been new parts too.
(I’m shy a SLX rear derailleur and chain to be specific. Keeping that under $47 would be nice!)
Another bike may be going from a 3x7 to a 3x9. $66 into that so far, including the rear wheel (because freewheel), cassette, chain, and shifters. All I’m missing is a SRAM RD; the existing crankset and FD will remain.
Or it may just inherit the 14-34 f/w that came off another bike. I’m not fond of that 24-34 jump that Shimano does, though.
@CatFriend Nah. 12 speed is the latest these days anyway.
The reason why 11 even came into play was because I picked up an 11-42 for under $12. Amazon’s search still sucks, and their variable pricing is equally a PITA – except when one lucks out and catches the item at the cheap price.
@Calantorntain people for bikes does good advocacy work, but alas, I also have no car and tumblers are messy in water bottle cages. And I already have the bubba tumblers.
Meh writers… can you help me figure something out? The model number 1304103085 appears as the 753,038,932nd digit of pi according to the pi search function on subidiom.com/pi/
However, I couldn’t find any placement within the first 2 billion digits on the same site for model number 1303104060.
Do you guys know of a better pi search tool? Do you guys own a supercomputer capable of calculating pi better than anyone else? I M U S T K N O W !
@hachover I don’t know how I feel about that. You’re probably right, but by the infinity logic, could you safely assume that… let’s say… the number 9 repeats for 1 billion digits somewhere along the infinite vastness of pi? Just because something is probable, doesn’t mean it’s actually possible.
This is such bullshit. Stop selling everything in absurd numbers, please. I have enough tumblers, but I’d possibly check this one out if it was sold at one or two. But four? Fuck off with that. Christmas just eneded!! I might have considered it for the gifting potential BEFORE Christmas, but this is just stupid.
@Dizavid We have a special deal for you - one tumbler for $20. Please be aware, we have used three additional tumblers purely as packing material, feel free to discard.
Would one of these mugs filled with coffee leak all over the inside of my gym bag? It is a bit irritating to find my underwear soaked in coffee when arriving at the gym.
“Dishwasher safe” is the important factor in this purchase. We have several steel & plastic travel tumblers from Starbucks & other brands (Ozark Trails) that are all hyped up but have to be hand washed! Come on! Who has time to stand around & hand wash a bunch of stuff?!
@emt305@tmilker lots of these insulated mugs will get water in between the inner and outer layers when submerged or ran through the dishwasher. Hoping not the case.
@emt305@medz@tmilker So a penguin is driving his car in the desert. All of sudden his car breaks down. Luckily, he’s pretty close to gas station. So he waddles behind his car and pushes it to the gas station. He asks the mechanic to take a look and find the problem. Mechanic tells him to come back in 30 minutes. So the penguin is getting hot being in the desert and all, and decides to find something to cool him off. He goes in the convenience store and buys some vanilla ice cream. He eats the ice cream and makes a big mess on his face. Finally he goes back to the mechanic to find out the problem. Mechanic says," Looks like you blew a seal." To which the penguin replies, “No, no. It’s just a little ice cream.”
/giphy compromised seal
Are the cups themselves NOT dishwasher safe? It’s stainless steel, not something delicate. Unless the vacuum insulation is so weak that being heated to dishwasher temperatures would compromise it (which seems unlikely considering that they’re meant to hold hot drinks), I don’t see how the dishwasher would damage the cup but not the lid.
Unless of course the dishwasher would strip that logo off, but that’s a plus in my book.
@lljk From what I’ve heard the dishwasher wears off the coating and then you can get a weird metalic taste and expose the seam, allowing water to get between the walls of the tumbler.
One of these would be absolutely perfect for that exquisite cold beer at the end of a day-long ride in the summer heat. Four, not so much…then you fall asleep and look silly.
Oh, wait, you guys already sold me a couple of Bubba mugs on a twofer Tuesday.
Just got these; make a nice ML King Day present to two couples (a pair each), who ride their bikes to our local Farmers Market every weekend. They’re all in their 80s- they’ll love 'em!
I customize tumblers and this is a pretty good deal… $5 and $7 each blank, and I’ll turn around and customize them them for $35 and $45 each. Yes sir, I’ll get a bunch. Interesting shape these have. Should sell well.
@Pamtha it might come off with acetone. But most times, I’m spray painting them with a white primer to start. Then doing something like glitter. Everything is sealed in multiple layers of epoxy. It’ll hide any logos or branding.
I am doubtful of the “room temperature FOREVER” claim - if I put my room temperature cup of water in the fridge (you know, the cupboard with the batteries) I bet it wouldn’t be room temperature even 24 hours later.
Now you might say “ah, but it is the temperature of the ‘room’ it’s in, that is the fridge”, but if we accept that a fridge is a room, which I don’t, but just for the sake of argument, in that case it didn’t even remain room temperature for minutes, it stopped being room temperature the instant it went into a different ‘room’ with a different temperature!
As such I pre-emptively demand a refund. Thanks, that was quick service!
These are great cups at a great price, but they all sit unlevel because all four were delivered in an envelope (yes…one single envelope…four stainless steel mugs) and all four have dents in the side. It’s not the worst thing in the world, of course, but surely you guys can do better than that…
@nolrak Those things had to be sitting in a warehouse for a loooooong time. That sticky gunk, besides being tremendously sticky, had the appearance of the Mummy from, ummm, The Mummy.
After 104 orders, this is the only one I regret. These tumblers are almost useless. If they were to “tumble” over, they spill everywhere. The tops do not seal and leak all over the place.
Edit:
My bad for not closely reading the product specs.
Yes, I see in the notes it does say not leak proof.
Yep, what Nyc_Tattoo said, they leak everywhere but it does keep stuff cold for a long time. As far as the logo goes, cover it up with a sticker and there ya go.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
4x 20oz or 30oz Kickbak tumblers (your choice of sizes)
Price Comparison
$75.96 (for 4x 20oz) at Amazon
$62 (for 4x 30oz) at Amazon
Warranty
90 day Mediocre
Estimated Delivery
Wednesday, July 15th - Monday, July 20th
Hard No
Am I supposed to drink this on a bike? Why does it look like it’s ripping off the ihop logo?
I just got an exercise bike. Will this make me have more fun on it?
Stainless “steal”
@2palms Also “camomile”, because the h is silent.
https://peopleforbikes.org/blog/kickbak-with-camelbak/
@medz I guess those water bottles in their store were better sellers. Who would have thunk?
@medz it is not difficult to see why that org appears to be a fail. Stupid slogan.
What are the alternatives?
@medz @RedOak Bikes for dogs?
/giphy dog riding a bike
@medz @RedOak Fish for bikes.
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/18/fish-bicycle/
@RedOak - Maybe they’re advocating for some sort of exchange.
@aetris @RedOak
/image share the road
@medz … so, it should be:
“Roads for People”
@medz -
Uhh… According to your own links, Amazon seems to have lowered their prices drastically.
20 ounce for $21.99
30 ounce for $15.20
Oops! Nevermind. Now I see that your selling four. My bad
@mehmoth And multiply by 4- I’ll wait.
@sammydog01 Yes, I can be a little slow after midnight. Oh well…
@mehmoth but the PFB designs are less.
4x PfB 20oz is $35.20.
4x PfB 30oz is $55.80.
@djslack @mehmoth They must have printed a metric shit-ton of these if Amazon has this design for sale too.
@djslack @mehmoth Meh. You are still giving a good enough deal to compare apples to apples I hate it when you exaggerate by comparing apples to oranges.
I’m so torn, because I love coffee and travel mugs but I hate bikes.
@madanthony Nothing a little acetone probably can’t fix
@madanthony
@madanthony
This will fix the mugs…or the bikes, as well!
Your choice.
I didn’t know bikes were endangered.
/giphy protect the bikes?
@tnhillbillygal
@tnhillbillygal
I discovered that, if you watch long enough, the bike and the car sync up…
2X2 FTW
/giphy emotional-dorky-dingo
@therealjrn Getting an order number of emotional-dorky-dingo perfectly encapsulates my day today.
@therealjrn
Worth it for the order number alone.
Seems like marketing crap, to me. What’s the benefit of stainless steel over plastic, other than $5-7 vs 2/$1 for plastic (+ recyclable once they get grody) at the dollar store?) Okay, maybe plastic/BPA. But how much liquids do you really drink, in a day? And what’s your relative exposure to any possible harmful substances in the plastic ones? Sheesh, I guess I’m old, because I don’t worry that much about exposure to odd off-the-wall substances from plastic containers anymore. But $7 cups seems extremely overpriced to me. Especially since they can’t go in the dishwasher. Hmmphh.
@cbl_wv You sound dehydrated.
@cbl_wv the stainless doesn’t sweat like a plastic cup. I don’t have these but have a couple other vacuum stainless steel cups. Keeps ice in my cup longer. Also does a good job of keeping my coffee warm. We actually thinned out most of our plastic cups. I guess for me it’s all about the insulation properties.
@cbl_wv @dnh127 A good quality double walled plastic cup insulates really well too and doesn’t sweat- I love Tervis cups. But they’re way more expensive than these.
A few minutes on the polishing wheel and that nappy logo is just a bad memory.
@ruouttaurmind maybe a few rounds in the dishwasher will wash it off
I have agreed to advertise Meh with shirts I had to purchase. That is enough for me!
That’s one ugly mug!
@mc
/giphy One ugly mug
@mc TWSS
Unless you’re looking for this specific tumbler, the Walmart Ozark Trail stainless steel tumblers work as well as other well known brands. They occasionally go on sale as well.
@jc283 Currently $6.74 & $8.74 respectively.
https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=ozark trail tumbler&cat_id=0&typeahead=ozark
CEO: “We have these coffee mugs specifically shaped for cup holders in cars far outside our normal product lines we typically excel in. They’re not selling. Ideas people.”
Marketing Exec: “Make up or dupe a ‘healthy’ cause and slap their logo on them. People are all for the appearance of being healthy with minimal effort. Now they can enjoy their overpriced coffee while dreaming about biking up a mountain while sitting in rush hour traffic they would have made it through on a bike an hour ago.”
CEO: “Do it.”
@tmilker Imma go change my FB picture to support you.
But I just would want 1, not 4.
@Tiamat114 I would buy these but I’m out of cabinet space. I wonder if they stack?
How about some bike parts instead? I could use some 11 speed parts here. Or how about a full groupset so I’m not slowly piecing it together myself? Under $100 too, please.
(I’m $53 into a 1x11 conversion - cassette, shifter, crankarm, and 32 oval chainring already. Missing the derailleur and chain at the moment.)
@narfcake I’ve never tried groupset, is it fun?
@therealjrn
@narfcake Unless you really need that extra gear a 1x10 probably would have been cheaper. My urban assault MTB was built with the 1x10 that came off my FS fatbike when it upgraded to 1x11.
@yakkoTDI How could I go any cheaper? That $53 is not a typo. All have been new parts too.
(I’m shy a SLX rear derailleur and chain to be specific. Keeping that under $47 would be nice!)
Another bike may be going from a 3x7 to a 3x9. $66 into that so far, including the rear wheel (because freewheel), cassette, chain, and shifters. All I’m missing is a SRAM RD; the existing crankset and FD will remain.
Or it may just inherit the 14-34 f/w that came off another bike. I’m not fond of that 24-34 jump that Shimano does, though.
@narfcake When I read this, I get the impression that you just want to be able to say, “My bike goes to eleven!”
@CatFriend Nah. 12 speed is the latest these days anyway.
The reason why 11 even came into play was because I picked up an 11-42 for under $12. Amazon’s search still sucks, and their variable pricing is equally a PITA – except when one lucks out and catches the item at the cheap price.
Sorry… Not a Contigo.
Anything else results in a cup holder full of coffee or takes 2 hands to work.
@2many2no You’re not giving Bubba enough credit here.
@cinoclav I’ve got a Bubba I carry to work every day because 24 oz. But while that flip top is fine on my desk, I still prefer Autoseal in my car.
This is the kind of thing that normally ends up at the good will. I hope meh didn’t pay much for these things
As a car-free cyclist, this is tempting… but I don’t think this fits in my bottle cage
@Calantorntain people for bikes does good advocacy work, but alas, I also have no car and tumblers are messy in water bottle cages. And I already have the bubba tumblers.
Meh writers… can you help me figure something out? The model number 1304103085 appears as the 753,038,932nd digit of pi according to the pi search function on subidiom.com/pi/
However, I couldn’t find any placement within the first 2 billion digits on the same site for model number 1303104060.
Do you guys know of a better pi search tool? Do you guys own a supercomputer capable of calculating pi better than anyone else? I M U S T K N O W !
@shiranissosexy
Well,
If you ever tried to get an IRK…
You would not have to ask about the ‘supercomputer’…
@shiranissosexy Can’t tell you the placement but can confirm that its in there somewhere. 2 billion is nothing relative to infinity
@hachover I don’t know how I feel about that. You’re probably right, but by the infinity logic, could you safely assume that… let’s say… the number 9 repeats for 1 billion digits somewhere along the infinite vastness of pi? Just because something is probable, doesn’t mean it’s actually possible.
@shiranissosexy I’d be willing to wager that it does repeat 9 for 1 billion digits. Purely on the basis that I can never be proven to lose.
@hachover Checkmate, atheists!
This is such bullshit. Stop selling everything in absurd numbers, please. I have enough tumblers, but I’d possibly check this one out if it was sold at one or two. But four? Fuck off with that. Christmas just eneded!! I might have considered it for the gifting potential BEFORE Christmas, but this is just stupid.
@Dizavid We have a special deal for you - one tumbler for $20. Please be aware, we have used three additional tumblers purely as packing material, feel free to discard.
@dave @Dizavid Wow, that is service!
@dave @Dizavid Hooray for proper dunnage!
@dave @Dizavid @narfcake hooray for the use of the word “dunnage”
@nolrak That was because of this a few years back:
Will these fit in a “dirty” orifice?
I like bikes but I don’t “like-like” bikes. I fear buying this would give the wrong impression.
Any tumblers with sheep on in your Warehouse?
Would one of these mugs filled with coffee leak all over the inside of my gym bag? It is a bit irritating to find my underwear soaked in coffee when arriving at the gym.
@Joedetroit
Bubba.
@Joedetroit @RedOak 100% Bubba mugs. They are amazing at not leaking and keeping beverages hot/cold.
@Joedetroit Definitely.
“Dishwasher safe” is the important factor in this purchase. We have several steel & plastic travel tumblers from Starbucks & other brands (Ozark Trails) that are all hyped up but have to be hand washed! Come on! Who has time to stand around & hand wash a bunch of stuff?!
@emt305 Just about everything is dishwasher safe if you don’t use the heat dry.
@emt305
Bubba.
@emt305 @tmilker lots of these insulated mugs will get water in between the inner and outer layers when submerged or ran through the dishwasher. Hoping not the case.
@emt305 @tmilker sure, it’s perfectly safe for the dishwasher itself
@emt305 @medz So they’re like fake vacuum insulators? Water couldn’t get in there if they were real.
@emt305 @tmilker it’s a vacuum until the seal is compromised
@emt305 @medz @tmilker
So a penguin is driving his car in the desert. All of sudden his car breaks down. Luckily, he’s pretty close to gas station. So he waddles behind his car and pushes it to the gas station. He asks the mechanic to take a look and find the problem. Mechanic tells him to come back in 30 minutes. So the penguin is getting hot being in the desert and all, and decides to find something to cool him off. He goes in the convenience store and buys some vanilla ice cream. He eats the ice cream and makes a big mess on his face. Finally he goes back to the mechanic to find out the problem. Mechanic says," Looks like you blew a seal." To which the penguin replies, “No, no. It’s just a little ice cream.”
/giphy compromised seal
Are the cups themselves NOT dishwasher safe? It’s stainless steel, not something delicate. Unless the vacuum insulation is so weak that being heated to dishwasher temperatures would compromise it (which seems unlikely considering that they’re meant to hold hot drinks), I don’t see how the dishwasher would damage the cup but not the lid.
Unless of course the dishwasher would strip that logo off, but that’s a plus in my book.
@lljk From what I’ve heard the dishwasher wears off the coating and then you can get a weird metalic taste and expose the seam, allowing water to get between the walls of the tumbler.
@lljk it might be the plastic liners inside stainless.
Go Bubba.
Stainless liner, dishwasher safe.
@arielleslie man I hate it when my seam gets exposed
Such “first-world” concerns. But better than single - use.
I don’t suppose there’s a “People against bikes” version?
it’s not Bubba - nuf said
BTW to the buyers @Meh, Bubba has a 64oz SS growler, stays cold up to 80(eighty)hrs, list $20… hint, hint, hint
@mehod Nobody buys me.
@mehod Pssst. @meh is a customer, not the company. Her username was registered before this site’s name even existed.
@meh You really should get some compensation for all the inadvertent tagging you get.
@narfcake eh, it is pretty rare these days. I hardly bother with most of them anymore.
How spill-proof are these? Is the liquid going to dribble out or run out?
@Jetlag I almost bit on this but the Amazon reviews all say that these spill/dribble.
These’ll do til I get MOAR MEH MUGS
/giphy idiotic-metric-sushi
One of these would be absolutely perfect for that exquisite cold beer at the end of a day-long ride in the summer heat. Four, not so much…then you fall asleep and look silly.
Oh, wait, you guys already sold me a couple of Bubba mugs on a twofer Tuesday.
Never mind…
Just got these; make a nice ML King Day present to two couples (a pair each), who ride their bikes to our local Farmers Market every weekend. They’re all in their 80s- they’ll love 'em!
/giphy sad-lame-quail
I customize tumblers and this is a pretty good deal… $5 and $7 each blank, and I’ll turn around and customize them them for $35 and $45 each. Yes sir, I’ll get a bunch. Interesting shape these have. Should sell well.
@jnicholson0619 Tell that to the people for bikes guys.
@jnicholson0619 But how will you remove the logo??
@Pamtha it might come off with acetone. But most times, I’m spray painting them with a white primer to start. Then doing something like glitter. Everything is sealed in multiple layers of epoxy. It’ll hide any logos or branding.
@Pamtha if it doesnt come off with acetone, i can always sand them smooth.
/giphy watery-macho-load
@jnicholson0619 That could have gone really, really badly.
@cinoclav hahaha thats what i was thinking too… haha
@cinoclav @jnicholson0619
/giphy need-Jesus
I am doubtful of the “room temperature FOREVER” claim - if I put my room temperature cup of water in the fridge (you know, the cupboard with the batteries) I bet it wouldn’t be room temperature even 24 hours later.
Now you might say “ah, but it is the temperature of the ‘room’ it’s in, that is the fridge”, but if we accept that a fridge is a room, which I don’t, but just for the sake of argument, in that case it didn’t even remain room temperature for minutes, it stopped being room temperature the instant it went into a different ‘room’ with a different temperature!
As such I pre-emptively demand a refund. Thanks, that was quick service!
ok , that logo on the CUP! Hmmm I’m out…
These should really come with a Meh sticker (or four) to cover over the goofy
logo
These are great cups at a great price, but they all sit unlevel because all four were delivered in an envelope (yes…one single envelope…four stainless steel mugs) and all four have dents in the side. It’s not the worst thing in the world, of course, but surely you guys can do better than that…
The little dot of goop holding the label on is the stickiest substance known to man.
@nolrak Those things had to be sitting in a warehouse for a loooooong time. That sticky gunk, besides being tremendously sticky, had the appearance of the Mummy from, ummm, The Mummy.
Dishwasher safe only apples to the lids…
Seriously
Wow really got me on that one
Did anyone figure out how to remove the logo? I tried 91% rubbing alcohol, but it did nothing.
I just tried acetone, no go. I might be stuck with these goofy logos forever.
000 steel wool?
After 104 orders, this is the only one I regret. These tumblers are almost useless. If they were to “tumble” over, they spill everywhere. The tops do not seal and leak all over the place.
Edit:
My bad for not closely reading the product specs.
Yes, I see in the notes it does say not leak proof.
Yep, what Nyc_Tattoo said, they leak everywhere but it does keep stuff cold for a long time. As far as the logo goes, cover it up with a sticker and there ya go.
Mine just leak out of the big hole at the top. The sides and bottoms are perfect.
@therealjrn That sounds as defective as the last shirt I got. It came with holes so big that my torso, arms and head can fit through them.
@narfcake
/giphy I know, right?
I ended up tossing these. They made everything I put in them have a foul aftertaste.
@j37hr0 Bully for you! No wimpy recycling for you! Just toss them in disgust!