@the_inevitable Yes, though there are various versions; usual price is 6 for about $40, sometimes a bit less when they have an in-store promo. They do last a long time and I’d say they are worth it.
If you want various specialized versions you will need to shop separately (usually 3-packs from Target or something.) Beware any online purchase a lot of counterfeits apparently on the eBay and Amazon 3rd-party sellers.
@the_inevitable Should be, Phillips is a real popular brand, and I know Target caries heads. Plus it is popular enough to have third party heads made. I have a cheaper model Phillips and it works real well.
Going to answer this myself - went to the Philips Sonicare support page and these models DO appear to be on the App’s compatible list. So I am not 100% certain, but certain enough to have hit BUY because we’ve been comparing brands and models for a couple weeks deciding what to replace my prehistoric era sonicare toothbrush with. We were going to buy this or another model this weekend for twice this price or more!
I purchased the 2-pack for my husband and myself for $144 last year from Meh. Unfortunately I left mine in a hotel room on a business trip. Replaced with a lower-tier model, and miss my diamond clean dearly…but hate to pay $99 for one. Ahhhhhh what a dilemma.
@platojello Yeah I remember the 2fer pack last year – not sure what the price was, but definitely less than $200. This is still a good deal on this model. Not sure if it is exact same as previous offer, but in any case these are basically worth it. (but because we are on this site we always want a better deal!)
@bruhaha@platojello I found a big difference in the type of vibration you get from it. The lower ones are kind of clunky and low-speed. This kind-of feels very “fine” which is the whole point of the “ultrasonic” thing they claim to do. This one has a bunch of modes that I actually haven’t figured out yet. But it does feel like it is just overall “better” than the cheaper one (which makes sense since I think this is about a $160 retail on it’s own normally, and this comes with 3 heads so that’s a bonus). It is a pretty nice machine and the case with USB charging is cool too.
@alose@bruhaha@platojello Wow I didn’t know it did that. But I would not be surprised. Let’s consider it the iPhone of toothbrushes. It costs 5x what a basic one would cost, but it has magical qualities you don’t fully understand but it does what you need and sometimes does stuff you didn’t even know you needed.
Wonder how it stacks up against the Braun Oral-B that I use… I don’t think I’ve seen a comparison between the two brands. My dentist was selling a brand new two-handle set for about $50, IIRC. I think it came with four brushes for the two handles. Different brushes, at that.
@Barc777 I think both brands are good, and definitely the top-end ones are far better than the bargain ones in each case. I think dentists often get a promo agreement where they recommend one and they get special deals and stuff. But the fact is any good dentist would be glad you are brushing your teeth at all!
The motion is a bit different on these vs the Oral-B. Both I think can do a good job, and the head types vary (you want to pick based on size of your mouth, gum sensitivity, degree of scrubbing you want, etc.) – I.e. do you want a feather duster or a power scrubber, or something in between.
This one has lots of special modes and is definitely one of the top-end models. Not sure what has changed recently but I suspect these are the old top-end and something new is out, so we get the deal here on Meh! Not as cheap as some previous 2-pack deals, but this has the extra heads so I think that makes up for it. And for traveling (does anybody do that still?) this is great. You won’t even need a charge for at least a few weeks, but if you use the travel case, just plug it in to a USB charger of any kind and charge your toothbrush overnight. Pretty sweet.
@sleuth So… no. I had this one (paid $200 at Costco…) and it died after a couple years. I switched to the latest basic version with one button. It’s just as good, uses the same heads, and is much nicer than even the older fancy Sonicare.
@metrazol@simtel20@sleuth these do have 2-year warranties and Philips has been very good about sending replacements. They last about a year and a half for me so that works out to a 3-year amortization of the cost.
That said, I agree the “fancy” ones aren’t worth the premium, but this is a good discount in any case
Less than meh for me, as I’m guessing that the lithium batts aren’t replaceable. I’ve had to throw away far too many, still functioning items that only need new batteries, but they require proprietary batts that are often soldered in.
I have had several high end Oral B electric toothbrushes. Meh almost got me with the travel charger. I hate bringing the main one each time I am gone for 4+ nights. Then I saw the cable is Mini USB. I refuse to buy any USB that isn’t USB-C. This one is even worse being Mini USB.
@davidcmal Appropriate giphy, since it shows what your teeth will be like since you refused to buy this over a stupid cord choice. In fairness USB-C has really only been popular in the last year or so, and this model has been around for a while (which is probably why it’s here at a good price!).
@davidcmal Well, that’s true. But it hasn’t been “mainsteam” as a charging connector until the last year or two. The devices you mention were revolutionary, state-of-the-art at the time and intended to break new ground. In any case the cable you get is short and thin and easy to bunch up and store; but yeah you’re right, it’s one more cable and it would be nice if it was USB-C. If I could guess, the new version probably will do that.
@pmarin in 2017 the USB-C port was used on more devices than Mini USB. I couldn’t say that for Micro, but I definitely can for Mini.
The only one of those that was the early adopter was the Nexus. Although it wasn’t even the 1st phone to support it. It also isn’t considered state-of-the-art. It was considered a mid-range phone both in price and performance.
The MacBook Pro wasn’t considered revolutionary for having USB-C. The Chromebook Pixel used USB-C 1.5 years before it.
I’ve been creeping on these at Costco for awhile but they sell them in pairs and I’m a single. The Smart version would be cool, but this price seems decent. Meh commenters are pretty pragmatic and from what I’m reading, this is a good buy.
@saralorine I haven’t seen the Costco offerings lately, but usually their two-packs are a mid-line Sonicare, which are still perfectly fine (better than the bottom-end ones by quite a bit). But this is like the super-top one, at least as of a few years ago.
@pmarin ICBW but from my brief research they appear to be the same - DiamondClean standard. Looking at the Philips website, it only shows the DiamondClean Smart. I’m guessing this one and the Costco 2-pack (on sale) are the DiamondClean standard and the Smart version is the new kid on the block, hence the deals
every electric toothbrush maker is now using the term “sonic” to imply that their toothbrush is “ultra-sonic” (sonic!). It turns out there are only a few manufacturers of real ultrasonic toothbrushes. I recently bought a two pack of similar brushes off of another site, they work great and leave my teeth feeling really clean, but now I have to say I’m curious about an ultrasonic brush.
I’m trying to figure out the difference between this one and the one from the mehrathon yesterday that was $20 more, other than 3 more brush heads (which may actually be worth the $20) and today you get to choose your color and yesterday’s was pink. I jumped on the one as a back up for my current brush, and I like the travel charger. I figured the deal was worth having a pink toothbrush, but now they taunt me with a dark side black toothbrush… oh meh, even when the deals are decent you taunt me and leave me confused!
Been using a Sonicare for years per my dentist, and this is a real deal. Folks worried about the batteries - these last 8-10 years before the battery seems to hold a charge less, and only need to be charged once a week or so.
I can’t figure out why this is really worth so much more than the $50 4100 series. More sonics? sure but not that many more. I love my 4100 series. battery lasts for 2 weeks so when I travel I just put the cover over the head and throw it in my toiletries bag. No need for a case that is probably just bulky and takes up more space in my bag. It cleans well and runs well. Unless there is something in this Diamond clean model that really makes a difference for you, I would stay with the 4100 series. I don’t need bluetooth in my toothbrush.
I have been using a Sonicare toothbrush since before it was always called “Philips Sonicare” and I have gone through maybe three or four, of progressively better models over the last 24 years. I only remember because it was a birthday gift (maybe it was meant to send a message??). Anyway, yes, those chunky early models get funky and you need to clean the heads. The Diamond model does not have any such issue.
BTW, any Braun is probably better than a basic brush. However, no Braun model can or even should be compared to a Sonicare. Last time I bought one, they function completely different. Sonicare does not have a mechanical connection to vibrate the brush head.
Within all Sonicare models there is a transducer creating the ultrasonic movement of the brush head using a physically uncoupled, magnetic attraction/opposition force interface allowing for an ultrasonic frequency be induced. I think the resulting bubble cavitation and collapse is responsible for the Sonicare’s effectiveness.
Ok, so that is all totally speculative BS. I honestly have no idea. But I have used them for a long time, and that’s just my guess how Sonicare brushes work off the cuff. Regardless, my dentist visits literally last 10 minutes, half of that time is waiting. There’s just nothing for them to do. So it is just a light polish, get a free little brush to scrub in tight places, and I am out.
I paid well over twice this price. Considering how long each one has lasted me, never dreading dental check-ups, etc. I believe this is a steal.
(disclosure, I do use a waterpik daily as well, so YMMV there).
@Roadkill extra credit for using “bubble cavitation and collapse” in a sentence. Unless you are also talking about submarine propulsion or something.
I do feel that this and the other mid-upper models give you that feeling that there is something going on (that secret submarine thing) in your mouth, whereas the cheaper ones feel like “wiggling the brush back and forth (or in circles in the case of Oral-B)” So at least it feels different/better, though it does take some getting used to.
On the topic of waterpiks, I have one also, the kind Costco usually has a few times a year. And it’s not bad but basically it feels so primitive and clunky. You can just hear the little piston motor going blah-blah-blah (or whatever name you want to give it) and crude pulses of water hitting you. Yes you can make the pulses stronger (to the point where they damage your gums – depending on attachment – DON’T do that!) but nothing like what the dental hygienists have which you can tell is a high-frequency pulse added to the water pressure that basically does a lot more. I wish someone would make a higher-end waterpik for maybe $200 that would be better than the $50 waterpik, same as this $200 (retail) toothbrush is notably better than the $50 ones.
I would buy this in a second, but already own three (two for me, one for Mrs. News). They are excellent, and highly recommended by our dentist and periodontist. Six replacement heads available at Costco, and on sale ~twice a year. Sonicare is a first-rate electric brush.