@cengland0 I got these the last time these were on sale. Just installed two in my bedroom and can confirm they are bright as fuck. I use the app to turn them down to ~65% to emulate my older incandescent lights.
@cengland0 I understood what you meant since I’ve done work that required knowing what kelvin bulb temperatures mean, but I can see why most people didn’t get it. Usually if you’re referring to a light as “candle light” it means candle power.
@cengland0 2700k is the same color a standard incandescent bulb puts out. Good for people that don’t like the crazy daylight colored bulbs. 2700-3000k is good for relaxed spaces. 3500k, 4100k+ is good for work spaces.
@Steve7654 I picked up a set of these for one purpose. When I’m getting ready for bed, sometimes I read. By that point, my cats all have settled in around me. Instead of leaning over the cat, I just use the Phone app to shut off the light when I’m done reading. Also, now I can control the light on the other side of the bed together or separately. One I’ve been too lazy to use for over a decade now.
@Steve7654 not everyone has light switches. shitty ceiling pull string lights + hardly any outlets + floor lamps with switches on the cord = can’t just flip a wall switch or easily acess a lamp switch. we have a few tp link/wemo switches we use with alexa and they’ve made a world of difference for us. we bought the last hue kit meh sold for our main living room lamp and we love it.
and for those concerned with brightness we almost never use it at 100%. it’s plenty bright.
@fuzzmanmatt Advantages of this over smart outlets include dimmable lighting, color control (with the right bulbs), and preset lighting scenes. Disadvantage is that the consumable (bulb) is the special part of the system so when the bulb goes the smarts have to be replaced with it.
I have the older generation in lamps in my house, and it’s nice to be able to do things like set 10% light in the living room lamp as a night light when we have guests stay over. It sucks when someone doesn’t know and turns the lamp off by the physical switch.
The older bridge/kit Meh sold before doesn’t do color, but I don’t know how much of a deal breaker that is for most people.
@ruouttaurmind Directly through the Hue app they have what are called “routines” where you can schedule and set a gradual dim or brighten from 0 to 30 minutes in 5 minute increments. Add any other home automation like Wink or Smartthings and you’ll have additional options available.
@djslack So it’s more like a “stair step” than a curve? Or a curve averaged over 5 minute increments? My old (abandoned) X10 system frustrated me, thwarting my every attempt to achieve a 15 second curve. The closest I could come was a 15 second stair step with 15 steps. Not exactly the soothing effect I was hoping to create.
@fuzzmanmatt we have that same setup and added the hue last time meh sold it for our main living room lamp (most used light in our apt). we really like it for the dim feature & eventually want to get the color change bulbs. works great with alexa, easy to set up, and freed up a wemo switch for something else. (i strung a bunch of tiny led warm white xmas lights and use it for those :))
@ruouttaurmind No, it’s not a stairstep. It’s just that you can’t set it to fade over 7 and a half minutes (or two minutes). It’s an even, gradual fade, but only available in 5 minute increments. You can simulate sunrise (except for color temperature changes) with a 20 or 30 minute fade on. Fade timers run after your triggered time, so if you want full light at 7 am with a 20 minute fade, set the timer for 6:40.
I’ve never used that feature, just checked it out in the app to report on it for you. I have no trouble telling Alexa to set the living room lamp to any percentage at all, and the lights kind of gradually fade (over maybe 2 seconds?) to that setting. I can’t tell the difference between 16 and 17% brightness with my own eye, though, so it’s mostly just for my own amusement.
I’ll try to check and see if there’s a way to do a 15 second curve.
@ruouttaurmind No easy way to do a 15 second fade in the Hue app. You can do it with additional work either through Wink or Smarthings or if you have a zigbee interface and software to write settings to the bulbs (fade time is a zigbee setting, measured in .1s increments).
@ruouttaurmind You’re welcome. I believe that this plus $100 towards either wink or Smarthings will get you what you need. If you want to use any hue products i believe you need the hub, even with one of the aforementioned systems.
Careful. I got this the last time around, when it was the first gen refurb, thinking, “ehhh… I can’t see myself blowing money on color changing light bulbs, I’m a fiscally responsible adult. This’ll just be for fun.”
Turns out I was wrong on both counts; I’m at least 25 smart home devices in and have Meh to thank/blame for it. I roll out of bed, push a button on the dresser, boom, lights are on and set to a cooler white for a little energy boost, coffee maker is turned on, door is unlocked. I get to my car, hit another button clipped to the sun visor, lights back off, door locks, security system’s activated. I’ve got interior and exterior lighting color schemes for holidays, sports teams, and Plants vs. Zombies because the kids think it’s fun. My thermostat adjusts itself to match my temperature preferences due to weather and turns itself down when I cross a geofence outside of my local trips to stores, etc. The same fence turns on my exterior lighting and preheats the home when I head back, and a second one opens the garage door when I’m a few houses away. I’ve got burner door codes set up for the neighbor kids to feed our dogs when we’re away that cancel themselves automatically when we’re home. I lay in bed at night reading new SmartApp code in GitHub to find new ways to meet my questionable needs. I need help please don’t buy this it’ll ruin you forever aaaahhh
@rprussell as long as you unenroll the bulbs from the first hub you should have no problems, or enroll the new bulbs with old hub and then migrate everything to the new hub. The new bulbs should also work with the old hub; the only difference is the old hub does not support color. Bulbs can only be paired with one hub at a time.
I have all of the bulbs in my home changed to Hue. They work very well and I love using them with my Amazon Echo “Alexa”. I have about 50% refurbs, and refurbs really just seem to be customer returns. They have all worked great. I have 1 bulb that gave me some problems and it was from the brand new set. The gen 1 work fine with gen 2 and some people actually report the gen 1 hub works better for them (this was my experience with initial firmware as well). The only difference between gen 1 & 2 is that the gen 2 hub will work with HomeKit. The bulbs are backwards compatible. Also, if you are getting color bulbs the gen 2 bulbs have better greens. I love my Hue home setup combined with Amazon Echo. I can control almost everything in my home now with voice commands (of course additional hardware required to control other smarthome aspects like thermostats, doors, etc). I wouldn’t purchase these white only bulbs as half the fun is being able to change the colors!
Why are they called “Hue” if they have no hues? I bought a set of VERY CHEAP color-changing bulbs w/speaker here several months ago that do much more (change light strength, change color, play music - badly, but at least it does play music) than the fancy name-brand Philips I bought here last time. All they do is turn on, off and dim. I thought a name-brand would do more than a Chinese knock-off…
I pass. The world is better off as a whole if I walk the extra ten steps to switch off the light. This consumes 0.5W in stand by mode, plus 1.5W in the bridge. For four lights, stand by increases consumption by a factor of two for my typical usage pattern.
I just received mine yesterday, and found a lamp to put one in. Setup was easy, and I rather liked waking up to the light slowly (un?)dimming when I was approaching alarm wakeup time. Echo integration was easy, HomeKit less so, but it finally worked. Now I want one of the multicolor ones to play with.
I got mine over the weekend and the base unit won’t even turn on. I called Phillips because there’s supposed to be a 90 day Phillips warranty on these. I talked to two different reps and a manager and they say that Phillips does not warrant refurbished units.
@tachijuan EXACTLY the same experience. In fact, Phillips is telling me Meh isn’t even authorized to sell these, says Phillps doesn’t refurbish products nor ever offer a warranty on refurbished products. In fact, I was told that this the 3rd time they’ve told Mew to STOP selling their stuff, that it isn’t authorized to do so, AND they have advised their legal department of this. Says they had sent an email around to their support staff that Meh is doing this sale again and to be aware. I’m incredibly disappointed and think I might be done with Meh.
@tachijuan@someRiverNoise The correct warranty procedure is in the package and it’s not actually through Hue support. The warranty is supported on this by Phillip’s exclusive refurb center. Link to this form is here
No, nothing in writing… I spoke to someone named “James” at Phillips at the phone number on their support page. I’m not concerned, if I’m being honest, with the ‘behind the scenes’ of this… I’d appreciate a simple refund processed at this point. It’s becoming a pretty big time and inconvenience for me.
Yeah, that wasn’t clear at all. The listing (originally, and at the top of this forum post) links directly to Phillips Support Page. I contacted the # on this form, who then asked me to send along an email describing the problem, providing sales receipt attachment… and I have to wait further… This has been a terrible process (and from the woman I just spoke to at this warranty location, I’m the 3rd call like this she’s received this week - that they’ve been asking Mediocre to update their documentation for product support, but that it hasn’t been done, so they, too, are getting angry calls).
@DJDan agreed, the warranty contact here was incorrect and that was our fault. It was correct in the packaging and correct on the previous 2 Hue events (this was our 3rd successful event), but it was listed incorrectly on this one.
Phillips customer support has no clue of the many thousands of units their own company is selling off to be refurbished, but that’s not your problem.
@snapster And so I called them (wasting more of my time) and they will do NOTHING unless I ship the whole thing back to them AT MY COST. And wait longer, to see IF they will replace it. This whole things a joke. I’d really appreciate a refund. If not, I’ll be happy to share my experience with others in hopes they don’t find themselves in a similiar situation.
@snapster Unbelievable. Used to check Meh daily. Every day. Had it booked mark, got daily emails. Made several purchases. Once had VMP for a while. Referred countless folks to check it out. Never once had a problem. And now over a $40 item, this is how it ends. Thanks.