@rileyper I take it you like it? I’m hunting for a better grill solution for my condo, but I don’t trust this thing’s plastic construction. I currently have an old george foreman with adjustable temperature control, and while it does OK for things like quesadillas, it can’t tackle a decent steak.
@Jamileigh17@rileyper if you are doing steaks indoors you need to try a Reverse Sear. Start in the oven low and slow and then sear the hell out of it on a screaming hot cast iron pan.
@azdarkknight@mmatricc@rileyper Yeah, that’s what I currently do most of the time. I just want a one step method for when I don’t want to deal with an extra step. It’s a low priority, but it would be nice. (I can get a decent char via my broiler too, as it’s ridiculously overpowered, but I have to baby it that way)
@Jamileigh17@mmatricc@rileyper The only problem with that is it produces lots of smoke and sets off the smoke detector every time I sous vide steaks or chops. I’m not convinced that this will A) get hot enough to do a respectable reverse sear and not cause the smoke detector to go off anyway.
I plan on buying an outdoor grill next year, if not sooner. (hint, hint) It just seems like a lot of hardware to invest in for two minutes of active use each time. Especially as I’ll either annoy the charcoal purists by getting a gas grill, or fire up a bunch of briquettes for such a brief amount of use.
@ciabelle@Jamileigh17@mmatricc@rileyper You’re probably right about the heat being limited, but I suspect that the detectors would stay off. This gadget has the juices dripping into a cool pan instead of steaming, sizzling, and sputtering in the pan.
Have you tried searing with a kitchen torch? I use a Searzall from time to time, and I can attest to there being a huge reduction in the amount of smoke produced.
@ciabelle Wait for December January February grill prices, I managed to pick up a Weber Genesis II E3xx for only $175 at Walmart (had to hunt like YMMV for it)
is this thing magic? I don’t understand how it works. if it’s merely less smoke (20% smoke) what is the advantage of this over the 5 in 1 cuisinart panini press i bought from meh a couple years ago? as much as i love kitchen crap, i want to a void double dipping.
@rprussell “heat” usually refers to conduction or convection, directly transferring the increase in temperature from one medium to another.
Infared is simply an electromagnetic frequency slightly slower than red light, but it heats things up without needing any matter between the source and target. If the sun didn’t give off infared energy, we’d be a hell of a lot colder.
Could’ve used this 31 years ago, when I lit my Smoky Joe on the fire escape of a 3-story wooden house where I rented, and the neighbors called the fire department…
Looks like the Quality Assurance program on this grill is fairly non-existent. Meltdowns on 1st use. Can’t see food cooking. Infrared lights are blinding and dangerous. Food looks raw but is overcooked. Temp too high. Temp too low. Doesn’t work out of the box. Not touching it.
Used it for the first time yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at how the food turned out. Wasn’t pleasantly surprised however to find out that Philips has this same exact one on sale for $99 on their site. Oh well.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
1x Philips Avance Smoke-Less Indoor Infrared Grill
1x Instruction Guide w/ Cooking Chart
1x Recipe Book
Price Comparison
$193.95 at Amazon
Warranty
1-Year Philips
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
I buy nuttin’ here unless at least 1/2 off!
Nothing is smokeless when you burn it enough.
@cinoclav My mom has confirmed this many times.
@cinoclav Everything is smokeless if you burn it enough.
If I didn’t already have an optigrill+ I would be all over this for my apartment.
@rileyper I take it you like it? I’m hunting for a better grill solution for my condo, but I don’t trust this thing’s plastic construction. I currently have an old george foreman with adjustable temperature control, and while it does OK for things like quesadillas, it can’t tackle a decent steak.
@Jamileigh17 @rileyper if you are doing steaks indoors you need to try a Reverse Sear. Start in the oven low and slow and then sear the hell out of it on a screaming hot cast iron pan.
@Jamileigh17 @mmatricc @rileyper Or sous vide the steak then sear as above.
@azdarkknight @mmatricc @rileyper Yeah, that’s what I currently do most of the time. I just want a one step method for when I don’t want to deal with an extra step. It’s a low priority, but it would be nice. (I can get a decent char via my broiler too, as it’s ridiculously overpowered, but I have to baby it that way)
@Jamileigh17 @mmatricc @rileyper The only problem with that is it produces lots of smoke and sets off the smoke detector every time I sous vide steaks or chops. I’m not convinced that this will A) get hot enough to do a respectable reverse sear and not cause the smoke detector to go off anyway.
I plan on buying an outdoor grill next year, if not sooner. (hint, hint) It just seems like a lot of hardware to invest in for two minutes of active use each time. Especially as I’ll either annoy the charcoal purists by getting a gas grill, or fire up a bunch of briquettes for such a brief amount of use.
BTW: Thanks @mediocrebot for turning the label for my 2nd point into an emoji.
@ciabelle @Jamileigh17 @mmatricc @rileyper You’re probably right about the heat being limited, but I suspect that the detectors would stay off. This gadget has the juices dripping into a cool pan instead of steaming, sizzling, and sputtering in the pan.
Have you tried searing with a kitchen torch? I use a Searzall from time to time, and I can attest to there being a huge reduction in the amount of smoke produced.
@ciabelle Wait for December January February grill prices, I managed to pick up a Weber Genesis II E3xx for only $175 at Walmart (had to hunt like YMMV for it)
@ciabelle @mmatricc @rileyper Tie a plastic bag over the detector when you’re doing it.
@ciabelle @Jamileigh17 @mmatricc @rileyper Or you could just rip it off the wall like some tenants do.
Prices do seem to be getting higher.
23 minutes in 2 sold. Maybe something will be actually selling tomorrow night.
I don’t buy any grill that can’t hit 750+ degrees. 446 degrees is wussy!
If only that boxer wasn’t selling a smaller, cheaper inside grill.
So it’s more into vaping?
is this thing magic? I don’t understand how it works. if it’s merely less smoke (20% smoke) what is the advantage of this over the 5 in 1 cuisinart panini press i bought from meh a couple years ago? as much as i love kitchen crap, i want to a void double dipping.
@boygenius1991 The Cuisinart I got here is great. I bought extra plate inserts later, and use it most for making Belgian waffles!
Doesn’t “infrared” just mean it uses heat to cook?
Or hot light bulbs?
@rprussell “heat” usually refers to conduction or convection, directly transferring the increase in temperature from one medium to another.
Infared is simply an electromagnetic frequency slightly slower than red light, but it heats things up without needing any matter between the source and target. If the sun didn’t give off infared energy, we’d be a hell of a lot colder.
I have this and love it. Truly smokeless and the secret is preheating for good sear.
real men grill at 700 degrees…
Just buy a real gas grill on clearance for the same price…
In an apartment with no deck/patio and sensitive smoke detectors, these are great options. Have had one for 4 years.
I have one of these and I LOVE it.
I did a bunch of research before I bought it (at $200, I believe )…, but that was a year ago.
We are low carb, so searing meat, veggies and fish helps. Also, the mosquitos keep me from grilling outside sometimes.
It cleans easily in my dishwasher.
No regrets with my purchase. I use it at least once a week.
Here’s the infomercial.
Lots of reviews on YouTube.
I saw what tjis did to steak, no thanks
Could’ve used this 31 years ago, when I lit my Smoky Joe on the fire escape of a 3-story wooden house where I rented, and the neighbors called the fire department…
So it’s basically an easy-bake-oven for grilling.
Sous vide is the best smokless option…it’s actually the best any option.
Nobody gonna comment on the picture with the kid in the window?
@PyroVanquisher Shh. Just pretend he’s not there. And don’t stare.
Looks like the Quality Assurance program on this grill is fairly non-existent. Meltdowns on 1st use. Can’t see food cooking. Infrared lights are blinding and dangerous. Food looks raw but is overcooked. Temp too high. Temp too low. Doesn’t work out of the box. Not touching it.
Used it for the first time yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at how the food turned out. Wasn’t pleasantly surprised however to find out that Philips has this same exact one on sale for $99 on their site. Oh well.