Paused deals
8I get up, go to Meh, try to by something. It is paused. Go to work. Come home. Deal sold out. Pay $3 every month or what ever that amount is. I get up, go to Meh, try to by something. It is paused. Go to work. Come home. Deal sold out, I get up, go to Meh, try to by something. It is paused. Go to work. Come home. Deal sold out.
$3 x 1000’s of buyers that can not buy nothing.
Pretty good scam going on here.
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The fuck?! My VMP membership costs me $5 a month and a contract relinquishing rights to my second born child.
@studerc That’s why we stopped at one child. Take that Meh!
@studerc VMP costs my husband $5 and his left kidney!
@mikibell @studerc you both have it easy it’s $5 plus tax for me.
There’s a midnight launch, then an 8am relaunch if it paused, and then a 4pm VMP only sale if you managed to miss both.
https://meh.com/forum/topics/or-you-can-please-none-of-the-people-at-all-of-the-times-----1-of-2
If you’re referring to VMP membership, it costs $5/month.
You can try a couple things if you’re interested in that day’s product. First, buying it at midnight eastern time. That’s when the product is first introduced. If it’s a good deal and many people are trying to buy it, the deal gets paused until 8am.
So your second chance is at 8am eastern. If you cannot get to a computer at that time, it could be on it’s way to selling out. They will leave a small token number of them for some VMP members and pause the deal a second time.
Your third chance is at 4pm eastern time. If you miss that opportunity, you risk the chance of it being sold out.
So really, you have 3 chances to snag the product before it sells out. Each time there are fewer quantities available though so it’s still best to try when it is first offered at midnight eastern.
@cengland0 the quantity distribution between pauses seems to be a little fluid
You know, VMP is optional. You don’t have to pay that monthly fee to shop here.
@MrMark If I may add to this.
https://mediocre.com/vmp
If the $5 is an issue. Cancel VMP. When you order an item next time you either pay $5 for shipping or you can pay for VMP for $5. VMP last a month and gives you free shipping so you would be really ‘screwing over’ Meh if you ordered more than one item per month on your free (5 for membership -5 for shipping on your 1 order) VMP membership.
However if you decide to buy an item and pay for shipping every time, I stand by your decision.
@richcu I agree with you it’s very confusing. I wonder how many people have just decided to walk away from all of this madness?
@Barney Staying up till 12:00 is still easier than getting up at 8:00 (tough life I know), but when you are semi retired and the deal of the day on meh is the only thing you have to look forward to that day-you choose the best of all the options.
@Barney they never said it was confusing they said they were paying for VMP and not actually buying anything. What’s confusing about showing up every 8 hours in the hopes of buying something?
@jbartus is it more confusing than a single changeover time? Yes, yes it is.
It’s unnecessary confusion to what was a very simple thing. And just so the can make one group happy while potentially making another group upset.
@Ignorant it actually has nothing to do with making anyone happy
@katylava
@katylava So, it’s all about corporate greed then?
@medz Only a Mediocre amount of corprate greed.
@Ignorant more complicated is very different from very complicated.
@jbartus it’d be very complicated for me to explain to my mother and have her get it.
@Ignorant “They have a single product each day and release batches of inventory for sale every eight hours starting at midnight.”
Seems pretty straightforward to me…
@jbartus yes I get it. My mother wouldn’t. A 1 deal a day thing is already hard for some people to understand. This is unnecessary complication.
I understand you get it and you may like it, doesn’t mean my mom would get it or that I need to like it.
@Ignorant if your mother could get her mind around the one product per day bit but not the three batches of inventory released periodically part… I don’t have words. I think we’d best leave that there to avoid insulting anyone’s mother. If the daily deal bit would confound her anyhow then the complication induced by adding the batches into it are irrelevant.
Either way, I hardly think your mother is the meterstick upon which all of humanity should be judged, as the concept can easily be explained in about a million different ways I really don’t see the label very complicated being applicable. Here are some examples:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your liking of the concept has no effect on how complicated it is or isn’t, you’re welcome to dislike it I am simply objecting to the characterization of the concept as being very complicated. You’re certainly entitled not to like it.
@jbartus ok.
@Felton10 Shit! Is THAT what’s wrong with me? I’m semi -retired?
Well I never…!
@Barney I’m about there. I’m usually online sometime after midnight into the wee hours, then I sleep till about 10am (or earlier, whenever the damned puppies wake me), and then I’m usually not able to get to the computer again till after dinner (which is NOT at 4pm).
It’s getting to be more hassle here than it’s been worth, although I do have an impressive collection of various sizes and brands of thermal containers.
@baqui63 I’m semi-retired too. I love it, if I had known how nice it is I would have done it 40 years ago and saved myself a lot of aggravation and stress. Freedom is much more important to me than money. Now excuse me, I have to go back to doing absolutely nothing.
@Barney No one has “just decided to walk away from all of this madness” They all stayed to bitch and rant about it.
Love all the people who say just stay up until midnight, it’s no big deal. They obviously don’t get up at 6AM or earlier.
@Barney I’m walking away. I don’t even have MVP. I just have a boring life with a boring internet connection and am tired of this experiment.
@callow I get up at 5.45 and check every midnight. No big deal. Hell, I’m walking to work at 8, so unless I want to get hit by a bus, that’s not much of an option.
@callow Actually, some of us do. And are here @ midnight. And are able to purchase - or not.
@Ignorant @barney if 3 change over times are confusing you, just check once a day at midnight ET - simple
@Marion14505 good bye, thanks for stopping in, hope to see you again soon
@jbartus Isn’t it moar different?
I want to know if the same rules apply re limited/pausing sales when they sell fukos. Are the going to pause it after 30 seconds instead of letting it sell out in a minute?
@Felton10
afaik, fukus and fukos will not have these rules. instant sellout as usual will apply.
@f00l doesn’t seem that way unless something changed.
https://meh.com/forum/topics/or-you-can-please-none-of-the-people-at-all-of-the-times----2-of-2#57850fc0412ffffc0af70b3f
@Ignorant I figure by the time the site catches up to the sales stats, the Fuko will be sold out. Seems the only way around that is to simply put up a lesser amount for sale at changeover than release more at 8 and 4.
@f00l That ain’t right. That might my only chance to get one is with a pause, or vmp pause. Pfft!
@Felton10 Pausing a fuku|o sale after 30 seconds is pausing it about 12 seconds after it has sold out. Thus, it is likely irrelevant.
@cinoclav - I think you’re right. My fear is that it will make it easier for fewer people to score multiple fukos using a different account at each release time. Of course, some manage to do so currently . . .
@KDemo Yeah, I hate to be ‘that’ guy but I feel like it should be limited to one per household. At least that would cut down on the husband/wife (or multiple account) duos getting them.
@Ignorant i am sooooo looking forward to be the first Meh.xican to get a fuko at 8am ET, and my husband can get one at 4pm VMP time
I feel where this person is coming from. I checked early this morning and the deal was paused. I MAY have impulse-purchased the tablet because we friggin’ love our tablets in our house. Since it was paused, I had too much time to think about it and decided I shouldn’t buy it.
I can see how this would suck for someone who cannot access the interweb at work. If that were true for me, my only chance would be the 11pm change over. In that case, if the whole inventory was available at 11pm, some might still be left when I get up before leaving for work. Instead, it’s paused and not opened up until after I’m at work.
TL:DR The pausing sucks for people who can only check one time of day when that time isn’t right at one of the release times.
@medz yeah but if you’re not here at midnight other decent the item was going to sell out anyhow if it’s managed to trip the circuit breaker so you probably didn’t miss out on buying. Corollary to your point about having more time to think about things and reconsider the purchase is that the circuit breaker gives a new sense of urgency to making those snap decisions. People who would have otherwise thought about it for a while grab something in a hurry because they didn’t want it to sell out on them.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@jbartus Oh sure. Amazing deals would still require the user to hit the site right at 11pm Central, but deals like today (which hasn’t tripped the 2nd breaker) would probably still have been available at 6am for a person who has to wake up at 5am to commute to a job with no Internet.
I can see how having 3 releases per day would have 3 chances for the impulse effect. I know I want to try to buy things at the VMP release just to see if I can beat-out the competition. Bragging right and all.
@jbartus The way quantities have been looking recently, a circuit breaker at midnight does not predict a sellout later.
@djslack @medz they’re still fine tuning the quantities. It is, after all, an experiment.
meh is a daily deal experiment by mediocre laboratories.
a mediocre corporation. all rights reserved, no takebacks.
Irk, why is there not a song for this? Your organization is going to not only crash the servers at 5am for the west coast, but the customers are probably going to be reading the OHSHIT report for the fuko on the crapper when there are even lower odds of getting a bag of random crap. It’s like if the reward for winning the lotto got smaller but the sales for said lotto instead skyrocketed, except instead of money it’s still just a bag of crap. Is the next fuko the result of some kind of nihilistic server meditation with the primary intent of seeing what kind of fire you can make in the server room to keep your IT staff on edge?
“$3 x 1000’s of buyers that can not buy nothing.”
Heck if I could convince 1000’s of people to not buy nothing (always buy something) I would do it too.
Keep up Pausing meh - I got your back on this experiment!
I’m confused about today. The stats only say the deal paused from 6:13 to 8 am (a good, concise message btw) but the button now says vmp only. Did we hit the vmp limit after 4pm and go into vmp mode without a pause? Did it just switch over to vmp only at 4pm? Or something else?
@djslack yes there was a pause but unless you were vmp the day before it’s impossible to buy. Current decision was to simplify and not inform them of something they couldn’t participate in except for the text below sold-out-you-missed-it
(All times are EDT.)
I checked the site at midnight and said, “hmm… I need to ask my friend who knows about these shits if I should get this tablet or not.”
I got to work about 11:15 AM but forgot to ask him. Later, but before 4:00 PM, I checked the site and found the deal paused, so the “after 8AM” circuit breaker tripped at some point after 8AM (and before 4PM).
At 4:03 PM, I remembered to ask him about it and he said it wasn’t a bad deal and that his wife had the same tablet and was happy with it. But why was I asking, since it was already sold out. I told him that I have VMP, so it isn’t sold out for me, and proceeded to buy one.
Now, at 11:42 PM, it is still not sold out (for VMPs).
@shawn, if it doesn’t violate some master plan, could we get sales stats when the circuit breakers trip? For example, we stick with what we have when no circuit breakers trip. If the 12AM circuit breaker trips, we have sales stats up until it trips, and then a new set of stats that start (or continue, but do not overwrite the earlier stats) at 8AM. If the 8AM breaker pops, another checkpoint. It would also be interesting to see how long things go before a breaker trips.
@baqui63 we’re working on some more stats to give more transparency into what we’ve sold at each launch along the way. In the meantime, today we added the timestamp for when we initially paused the deal.
@shawn Yes, I saw that (immediately after the 5 minute edit window expired).
I’m glad to hear that there is a desire for more transparency (and not at all surprised).
I miss the simplicity of one time, midnight, that’s it. Instead of 12, 8, 4 (makes me think I need a Dr. Pepper, oh, wait, that 10-2-4, sorry), how about one time again at 2:00PM ET. You would them have everyone in every office in America logging in at the same time to catch the deal. No one would ever schedule a 2:00 meeting or conf call ever again! (or 1:00PM CT, 12:00PM MT, or 11:00AM PT). Thoughts?
@twz inside the uber long explanation of the change I describe the unique attitude of the midnight demographic that we love.
@snapster Yes, I remember desperately fighting sleep as I struggled through the uber long explanation (very well written as it were) however, the unique attitude of the midnight demographic is crying for a change. Think of the headlines (i.e. free media) as tens, no hundreds, no thousands, no (dare I say it) MILLIONS of workers across this great country put down their shovels (or pencils) to log into Meh at 2:00pm (or 1CT, 12MT, 11PT) in a rushed frenzy to purchase whatever crap you managed to scrape together.
@twz But that would give a clear advantage to those in mountain time! They will be on their lunch breaks when the new product hits and at my work, I’m only allowed to view personal internet on my breaks!
I like the deal pause. It’s given me time to buy more crap I don’t need; I’ve already bought at least one thing that was “sold out” before 8 am. I’m on the east coast and since I have to leave early for work I can’t stay up until midnight to catch the deal.
@jmoor783 Definitely agree - I love the deal pause! I feel like I actually have a chance now!
Omg. This crap again. Stupid shit said pause til 8am ET. Then at 8am, it force me to wait til 4pm.
@jatnsil
Meh-o-pause. The change is always difficult at first.
ready to leave meh for something else the paused BS is crap
@meteor
@meteor waves
/giphy buh bye now

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Unlimited shipping for $5 a month!? Why didn’t I think of that!?
@wootbot You guys did one month. In which I took advantage of. A lot. With catshirts.
Basically what you’re saying is, if you want the actual good stuff, never forget that Meh exists, or you’ll miss it. But don’t worry. If you have a life and only remember them occasionally, don’t want to set your phone alarm to go off three times a day, or sales are so slow they send you email to prompt you that day, the crappy stuff will still always be available all day!
@RobotSkeleton that’s always been true. The whole point of the circuit breakers is to spread the good stuff out so more people get a shot at it instead of just the people who can show up at midnight EST.
@jbartus Actually, the deal “always” was, you show up at midnight, you get your shot. You snooze, you lose. And hell that was just for the east coast - the flyover states got their shot at 11… 8 and 4 are work hours for TONS of people, but they did say it’s an experiment. Maybe soon they’ll go back to their original thesis and stop playing around.
@RobotSkeleton the always part was related to ‘never forget that Meh exists, or you’ll miss it.’ 8 and 4 are indeed work hours but one nice thing about buying on Meh is it’s quick, its only fault is that it cannot be done while sleeping and those people who have to be at work at 7 and have an hour commute really need to be in bed well before midnight. As you say, you snooze you lose, if you miss it at midnight and it’s something you really want get up for the 8 AM release. Don’t want it badly enough to get up at that hour? Welcome to the experience East Coast people used to have to deal with, except unlike you they didn’t have the luxury of knowing if it would be something they want before they went to bed.
Nobody’s suggesting you have a perpetual 8 hour alarm running. No offense but based on the fact that you referred to the middle states as ‘Flyover States’ I’m going to go ahead and guess you’re a west coaster. If I’m right, then I think the real problem here is that it’s less convenient for you personally and you’re unhappy about that. Close?
@jbartus Close? No.
@RobotSkeleton so you’re not from the west coast and 8 AM is a convenient time for you? I’m really not seeing the problem then.
I can’t understand why some people get pissy because now they get 3 shots at a good deal instead of one. Being one of the east coast whiners, I’m happy. That’s all that matters.
@cranky1950
@communist what I do best the backhanded bitch.
@cranky1950 people are just salty because they found the old arrangement more convenient than the new one. They showed up and bought or didn’t buy and that was it, to hell with anyone else who didn’t make it in time because they needed to sleep or something.
@jbartus I don’t like it and it has nothing to do with what is convenient for me. I feel it’s unnecessary complication to a simple site. I couldn’t careless if the launch time was 12AM, 8AM, or 12PM eastern, I just like one and done.
@Ignorant if you’re showing up promptly at 12 AM and buying it what do you care if it shows up again at 8 AM and 4 PM? The only way it even effects you is if it sold out rapidly in which case it’s questionable whether you would have gotten one in the first place.
@jbartus
That’s it. That is my complaint, I thought I already said that
I know this is @snapster @dave and @shawn’s site to do with what they want and they should do what they want and what grows the business for them. Doesn’t mean me or others have to like the change. Nothing to do with convenience, just simplicity and preference.
Quick, someone shoot this thread. I’m ready to move on.
@sligett

Meh is way too busy to allow necro’ing of threads.
@DrunkCat not really, some days there are less than 7 active threads .
@communist so I need to start more to avoid the zombie threads?
@communist Back in my day it was a bannable offense to necro threads.
@snapster yes a two threader on the status of the 12,8,4 system
What is a zombie thread? I looked over on the available topics, but got bored with refreshing the page to earlier and earlier times. How would I find them? Do I like them?
I need to know this, please.

@Shrdlu a zombie thread is an old thread(like this one) that nobody has commented on in a long while.
i use google to find old meh threads.
@communist it’s an old thread (dead) that someone comments on and brings it back from the dead like a zombie

/giphy zombie thread