Most Disappointing Movie of 2014?
2Everybody's got their ideas for what the best movies of 2014 were, and we'll see what the Academy says in a few weeks. But what was your biggest movie letdown of the year? For me, hands down: The Monuments Men. (Sorry, Hollywood, I haven't forgotten even though you released it in the February dead zone.) It's a testament to the importance of screenwriting that not even a great cast, fascinating subject matter, and impeccable production design could make this lame script come to life.
My next-most-disappointing, which will probably annoy some of you, is Captain America: The Winter Soldier. I'd been told by people I trusted that it might be the best superhero movie ever made. But I couldn't get past the awful banter between Black Widow and Cap, between Cap and Falcon, really between any two characters on the screen at the same time (it felt like). But mostly between Black Widow and Cap. Please, Marvel cinematic universe, enough with the one-liners and the zingers and the "comedy" that wouldn't make the cut in a Rob Schneider movie.
How about you? What 2014 movies left your popcorn cold?
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All of them? I'd rather someone actually mention a movie that came out last year which was worth watching. I've not been to a movie in a theater in years.
@molfsontan Same here!
@fjp999 I had a long response - edited and when I hit the "Say it" button I got the "forbidden" screen! Oh well, later!
@fjp999 That happens if you completed your editing after the maximum allowable time for edits.
@molfsontan I enjoyed Grand Budapest Hotel. Beautiful cinematography.
I was actually excited for this one. Then, disappointment.
@denton lol I didnt think anyone had high expectations. It's Seth McFarlane...
@xEBRONx Yep. I love Family Guy. American Dad is so so. The Cleavland Show sucks. Can you spot the trend?
@Headly I actually Think American Dad is superior to Family Guy. As much as I love Family Guy, I think it is time to end it.
@denton The trailer was hilarious.
@denton @SSteve They gave away ALL the good jokes in the trailers. The movie had a few really good laughs, but they were all spoiled by the trailers. So the movie was disapointing, and tried to hard too tell a story instead of just being funny.
Godzilla. Dull plot, VERY dull main character, and the only interesting character gets killed off about 15 minutes in. But come on, everybody knows people watch a Godzilla movie to see Gozilla smashing up cities, so why do they always waste so much screen time on boring humans doing boring things? The old movies had the excuse that they were made for budgets that wouldn't buy a good lunch in Hollywood, but this one cost $160 MILLION. It runs over 2 hours and all the fun parts take up maybe 5 minutes or so of that. They finally have the budget to really do it right, and they totally fuck it up. It's like if they made a Batman movie where 90% of the screen time is Bruce Wayne doing his taxes. Pacific Rim was a much better Godzilla movie, and that wasn't even a Godzilla movie.
@Starblind the beginning of godzilla: "hey, remember what brian cranston looked like with hair?"
@Starblind I thought it was on-point for a Godzilla movie, 1000% more then the Matthew Broderick version (which is probably why my expectations were very low), but could have had more awesome mega monster fighting. Pacific Rim was amazing because Guillermo Del Toro is fantastic. It set itself above Godzilla, being it's own thing in the Kaiju genre. I hope Pacific Rim 2 will turn out just as good.
@Starblind I'm probably the opposite. Mostly what I realized when we saw it is that I'm not the kind of guy who likes Godzilla movies. The "boring" parts were the best parts for me.
@Starblind I thought it was ok, but not enough city smashing.
@Starblind Yeah, not enough Godzilla. Pass.
I feel like I'm the only person who only goes to movies that I enjoy. Can't you tell from the trailer whether it's going to suck or not?
@HELLOALICE Ah, but that's what I mean: The Monuments Men really seemed like something I would love.
@HELLOALICE I pretty much only go to movies I don't enjoy. Because friends. Hohum.
The Hobbit.
@Headly Second. I just kept saying, "Get on with it and stop stalling". Although, I also read the book, so I knew what was going to happen. I downloaded "The Hobbit: The Tolkien Edit", wich is a fan cut of the three films, taking out the stupid love story and useless scenes. Watching that this weekend.
@The_Baron OMG link please.
@Headly https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/ It is actually very well done. They cut all three down to a 4hr movie. It's huge though.
@The_Baron Thanks. I have a 1TB DropBox account and a 125 Mb connection for occasions such as this.
@Headly Got it. I shall watch it and report back.
@Headly Well, I made it to 24 minutes so far then my Roky refused to play any more. I suspect the encoding. I'm transcoding the video now. I will say that the "cleaning up" scene has been removed, which was a good scene and was definitely in the book... Feeling kinda meh.
@Headly he cut too much and cut scenes that shoudn't have been cut. while i agree that there is way too much added crap, he cut vital scenes, like the dwarves in the trees reacued by the eagles. "tolkien edit" is not accurate... meh.
@Headly There was a 4GB "lower res" cut before this last edit, which worked better. My Plex server can't work out the correct aspect ratio for this one, so I didn't watch it. The previous cut might have been better, before he started listening to other people.
Regarding movies today:
1. Why are they so dark? Only comedies seem to be nice and bright. A normal cop movie seems dark even outside in the daytime. Forget watching a modern movie with the lights on.
Why is the music louder than the talking? I have to use the subtitles just to understand what they are saying sometimes.
There is a horrible blue lens flare that appears in many movies. Is the director so incompetent that they cannot take a good video without lens flare?
In fight scenes, the zoom is so close that it's hard to tell who is hitting who. They cut and change angles so many times it can make you dizzy and throw up. Whatever happened to a nice panned out fight scene done in one or two cuts?
Speaking of fight scenes, I got hit in the face with a racquetball and I had to take 3 minutes to regain my composure. That seems normal. In the movies, how in the world can someone get shot in the arm, kicked in the face hundreds of times, thrown off a building, and still continue fighting?
@cengland0 I hate "shakey" fight scenes. It sucks when the fight scene is so lame they have to shake and jerk the camera around to make it appear more active.
I like purple
@Barney Yeah, that was the best part.
@Barney Obviously we know what your favorite movie is.
@SSteve Awwww. Purple!
@cengland0 It's been a while since I've read American Cinematographer, so I'm not sure if it's cinematographers still having to deal with a more limited dynamic range of the digital cameras compared to film and deciding they want more details in shadows than highlights or just a style choice that's in vogue right now.
@cengland0 Music louder than the talking I would say is more likely to be a poorly configured sound system, either at home or in the theater. When you mix sound it's surprising how low the music can be and yet still know it's there without it being distracting.
@cengland0 Lens flare: I blame J.J. Abrams.
@jqubed It's definitely not a problem with the sound system at home. I used to be an audiophile and had expensive gear and still had that problem. The voice track should come out of the front center speaker and you should be able to adjust that higher if you want but they blend it in where if you attempt to adjust the voice higher, the music goes up with it.
Regarding J. J. Abrams, I agree he is to blame in some of his movies and recently had received many complaints and apologized for it.
@jqubed And speaking about separation, when Dolby Digital / AC3 and DTS first came out, so many movies took great advantage of that. My guests were surprised of the quality and actually thought someone was knocking on the window behind them, or it was really raining outside, or that some was talking next to them. Now the separation is not as great and it's hard to find a movie where an object moves from one speaker to another (some movies still do it but not a large quantity).
@cengland0 Maybe the studios are cheaping out on talented engineers. When I was in school they told us the top people were making $500/hour. Audio seems often-overlooked, though. Without audio it's just a fancy slideshow. One breaking news situation I did audio for was being submitted for an Emmy nomination and I asked if I could be included. The guy putting them together thought I should be, but left the decision to the News Director (person in charge of the whole news department). He said my part was "not integral" to the newscast. I wanted to say, "please just take my part out then, since it wasn't important." In one sense I could see saying just the producer, reporters, and assignment desk people get on the nomination, but if the director and other technical people are going to be on there, the audio person should be too. I was almost glad when it didn't win, but we really killed it that day.
@jqubed Station I worked for here in Florida the only people submitted for a news piece was the shooter, reporter, and News Director. If you were in production you didn't count. Even the Director was treated like a TD.
@cengland0 That's a lot to discuss. Briefly: the darkness and lens flare are definitely "trends" right now. Loud music and close-up fight sequences cover up bad/no fight choreography. Pretty much all the nits you picked are in movies that are made simply because they will make money because they look like another movie that made money. Usually a bad action movie trying to be "300" or "Transformers", because they both made gobs of money. Finally, as far as getting hit and reacting quickly - that's something you can train yourself to do (take a martial art of some kind and you'll learn pretty quick how to ignore the initial pain), so I don't have a problem with that most of the time. In summation: US movies tend to have crappy action and rely on gimmicks that worked before. Watch Korean/Thai/Chinese action movies if you want to see the action (The Raid and The Raid 2 for example) and stick to Oscar-bait Hollywood movies for non-lens flare and general decent quality.
I can't resist posting an Honest Trailer whenever a movie topic pops up. Hers' one for Captain America, Winter Whatever.
@Teripie That was great. "Get ready. For. Nitpicking." Yeah, I thought it was a great movie, but I'm not at all a fanboy, so what do I know? Though, actually, my fanboy friends liked it too.
@Teripie I enjoy Honest Trailers, that always crack me up.
I would say "Left Behind" was the biggest disappointment in the history of cinema... for Protestants. That movie was definitely a win for Satan. As a Catholic, I was torn. I guess I'm suppose to be on the Protestants side on this one, but after watching that movie, I felt myself kinda laughing in the background on how the devil just totally pwnd those silly reformers.
@phatmass +1000 - Lord, that movie was HORRIBLE. Oh Nick Cage, WHY?! Even the $$ couldn't have been worth it.
Godzilla.
Boyhood is the most overrated piece of crap this year. If it wins the Oscar for best picture...
La Belle et La Bete. It was touted as this lush, gorgeous, dark, true-to-the-original retelling of the story starring badass vincent cassel and luminous lea seydoux. Two amazing actors, yay! And directed by the dude who did the glorious Brotherhood of the Wolf. And I fucking love fairy tales when done right, dark and sexy and horrible yet beautiful and right. Which is mostly only every achieved in books. (Hollaaa at Tanith Lee and Jane Yolen and co!!) I was all "this is so gonna be catherine breillat-ish but with more badass swashbuckling and less depressing-allegory-for-the-horror-of-the-female-condition, whoop whoop!" I was so excited.
And the result? A disgusting bumbling CGI badly written horribly acted tacky stinking dumb no-internal-consistency-or-logical-emotional-development floppy mess of a Lifetime-tries-to-be-HBO-but-french "movie". Uuuuuugh. I am so disappoint.
@goldenthorn Dear filmmakers: if Jean Cocteau has already made it, you cannot top it. That is all.
Transcendence sucked balls. Big, sweaty balls. Worst movie of 2014 IMO.
@Pavlov I was so disappointed.
I actually didn't watch the end to Into The Woods. I liked the ties to the original pre-Disney fairly tales and the actors were good. The story just wandered and came loose at the end, so I lost interest.
It didn't seem to have the same impact as the stage show.
@The_Baron I struggled to finish the movie. And I'd heard such good things about it! Not sure how that movie sucked so hard.
@pwinn Disney wanted to package it all up for a more broad crowd, instead of being true to Sondheim's vision. This means they had to re-write some crucial scenes, muting/softening them for the younger crowd.
@The_Baron why why WHY was keith richards, i mean johnny depp in that movie? and why was he the only character that was totally cartoony?
@vampje Maybe because he did Sweeney Todd, some wierd deal with Sondheim. Probably because they were trying to cram as many big names in the film as possible.
@The_Baron but he gets top billing for lessthan 10 minutes in the film.
Sharknado 2 was terrible. I really don't get people that enjoy movies like that. I guess if you said it was awesome -- in that "it's so horrible, I can't stop laughing" kind of way. I truly don't understand those people, or that genre.
@capguncowboy Sharknado was a terrible movie but a financial success . . . I truly weep for this country at times.
@capguncowboy We watched Sharknado on Netflix in about 15 minutes heavy on the fastforward, but stopping for the parts that looked most awesomely absurd. It was indeed so horrible it was almost good in a way. Worth 15 minutes at least. I'd do the same for 2. Not sure my wife is as enthusiastic.
@capguncowboy I mean… it was supposed to be terrible, right? It's kind of like being surprised that the dump you just took is brown?
@brhfl I like purple?
LOL, @Barney!
It's really difficult for me to feel disappointed about a movie. But I also go with no expectation to every showing and if I know a movie will probably be on Netflix in the same year because of bad reviews, I wait till then.
The only exception of an expectation was The Interview where I made sure I was pretty well drunk in order to enjoy since it was a stoner movie.
@Keyeno I made sure I went to a theatre where I could get and stay drunk for The Interview. I hate paying theatre prices for shit like that (and then, a theatre where you can drink and eat dinner sucks up even more of your wallet), but it was certainly entertaining once I socked it to my liver.
@brhfl I stayed home to watch The Interview. I live in a dry state so I have to suffer making my own mixers. ;)
Tom Brady in "Flat Balls"
The Interview. The dialog was a bit over the top. I can take a few F bombs if it fits the situation but I can tell you with over 20 years in the Television Production business real people don't talk like that.
@Mehrocco_Mole You haven't been to my gym after someone lost a racquetball game. You should hear the language between serves too.
@matthew smashing a pumpkin with axe