@DrunkCat Wouldn’t toilet paper be the future because we have it right now, and it will probably continue to exist in the future? Do you think we’ll all use bidets in the future, or will the three seashells finally be invented?
Let’s ignore the fact that toilet paper manufacturers are always coming up with ways to innovate toilet paper.
You whiffed on not mentioning some weird tech upgrade for the toilet that a tech bro would actually consider, like a toilet that can read your sphincter to give a health diagnoses, or a self flushing toilet that uses AI or IoT instead of a sensor.
I mean, the tech bro uses a bidet, right? They buy those toilets that plug into the wall and warm the seat while you sit on it.
@pmarin Good to point that out so people actually notice that part of the description.
Also reviews state fittings are plastic and not metal so some are finding them cracking and thus leaking. That could be solved by replacing the fittings.
@pmarin@rpstrong hmm….this might be worth a try for me lol. Certainly would fit in the “I’m cheap as hell with my own stuff” aesthetic of the master bathroom.
@pmarin@seraphimcaduto You could also give it a test spin with cool (usually not cold) water and a room temperature seat before investing in an outlet.
[I bought into basic, <$20 blasters shortly before the COVID madness hit - talk about timing! I dry with a dedicated hand towel ('cuz my butt is worth it), and went through around two rolls of TP over the next couple of years. Never looked back, and never tempted to upgrade.]
@rpstrong that makes no sense. “Standard” was the standard until about the 1970s. In older houses the bathrooms tend to be narrower and in some cases when replacing toilets I had to pick standard because the elongated would have blocked the door or made the room feel cramped. My butt is not that big so it fits on a standard.
I’ve used fancy toilets in Japan. The heated features are nice, but not necessary. I find the cold spritz refreshing. You can buy 5 basic bidets for this price despite being a good deal. Most toilets don’t have a nearby outlet, so that’s something to consider.
@goldnectar@kuoh My first encounter was in a nice hotel in Shinjuku. The toilet controls were built into a tile wall with indicators and buttons. All labeled in Japanese of course. Eventually figured it out; there weren’t that many orifices to clean.
@goldnectar@pmarin There are more funky orifices than one might think. It probably wouldn’t hurt to lay across the seat and give the belly button a good cleansing every once in awhile.
@goldnectar@kuoh@pmarin When I was in Japan I saw some that had a button for “flushing sound.” I asked my aunt why, and she said “Some ladies are so modest, they don’t want anyone to hear them so they flush while using the toilet, but it wastes water.” So an artificial flush to cover any rude noises they might make …
@st_ellis I paid an electrician to add a bidet outlet, and I STILL have never lived in a house or apartment that had one.
He insisted that code required him to add a whole new helling circuit, and then he put the outlet wherever the hell he wanted, which was not behind the toilet
@st_ellis@user95769129@whogots My neighbor had a big bathroom remodel but everything was sub-contracted out and I think he paid way too much plus it took about 2 months!
He said he might want to add a bidet seat and they said they said the same thing; new circuit addition to electrician subcontractor. Extra $$ plus commission for the boss. It’s possible it’s true but I think this would apply to the new hard-wired toilets (which do exist now). The plug-in seats like this, I’m not sure. I run mine off a short extension cord(it is a 14 Ga 3-conductor often used for air conditioners). All the instructions say don’t do that but in the grand scheme of dangerous wiring hacks seems to be on the low risk side.
@pmarin@st_ellis@user95769129 The only folks I know who have a heated bidet just drilled a hole through the wall and plugged it into a bedroom outlet. (I do think they changed it to GFCI. I hope.) If a couple of quants can’t find someone to do it right, there’s no hope for me.
And yeah, I recently went through a 75% bathroom restoration. It only took a few days once they started, but the plumbers and drywallers were total goblins.
@pmarin@st_ellis@whogots worst part would be getting a run pulled down through the wall but other than that not a huge cost. Yea i think they took ya but live and learn. Please make sure the extension cord isnt loose and yea its not a real big deal. Honestly though you really want it GFCI protected. You can even buy a GFCI protected cord so you don’t end up on an electric chair.
Exactly what I was going to say. I know someone that actually has an outlet, but I sure don’t. Not planning on having them installed either. Kinda funny, unless the bidet has a blower, I always wondered how you get dry.
@Mandamm@ColeSloth some more expensive models do have a heated air blower feature. I have one with that but rarely use it. Mine takes a while to warm up so you’re getting cold air first. A bit of toilet paper works too.
@ColeSloth@Mandamm@pmarin We hung two very soft baby butt washclothes next to the toilet for drying. Work well, and use way less toilet paper than before…
@Mandamm As you can see from my post below, it is very possible to run an expensive bidet through a quality extension cord, albeit not advised by the company.
Said bidet has a heated blower, but I rarely use it. Takes forever so unless I am reading, I am a shit and get off the pot kind of guy. Still use toilet paper to dry, just a lot less.
I know this model requires an outlet, but ones that do not are still a life-changing purchase imho.
@CatsAreGods@Christo196 The previous homeowner swapped the hot and cold lines when they DIYd the new bathroom addition. After two curtesy flushes, your sphincter et al really starts to feel the burn.
I got a fancier bidet for the master suite bathroom right years ago. One of the best purchases ever . We’re very happy with it.
Had to engage an electrician to put an outlet near to the toilet. Had an outlet on the other side of the wall so he took the power from there. Iirc that was about $150.
Love my heated Bidet for twice the price. I simply wired a GFCI plug to the plug on the other side of the wall. Only down side is that now I’m so spoiled, that I hate having to go when I’m out, because it’s such a PITA to clean without one.
@StGermain they have, just not today’s deal. Also check Home Depot deal of the day, or the W site. Most will cost more but have more features and pretty touch controls. You can pee on them but they are cleanable. Some have a remote control you can mount to the wall, but then I might lose that too along with my TV remote.
Team Bidet Advocate for over a decade. I will not ever live without one. Having the house redone, and outlets near the toilets were mandatory. The wiring isn’t finished yet, but I still need my bidet as you can see. Once you have one, you will never want to shit without.
@KNmeh7 Hear hear!! I got a portable bidet too. It’s a Tushy and is shaped like a water bottle and you squeeze it to use. I tried two different electric portable bidets, both of which look like a… cylinder… with a rounded end… shaped like a… well, you know… with a fold-out wand. Not strong enough and ate batteries. The Tushy manual one works well!
@soundskinky seconded… I don’t need the electrified aspects right now, but when I move I’m taking it with me, and looking at ease of plugs near toilet in my next home. It does say it is quiet close.
@dkaine@soundskinky They had ones for like $20 just cold water no heat. Some in-laws have one and say it’s fine! I’d say go for that and upgrade later.
@dkaine@pmarin@soundskinky Yeah, I have the cold-water-only one that taps into the water supply to the tank. It’s more than fine. The one I got (BioBidet brand) cost around $40, but it was worth the higher price to have metal instead of plastic innards.
@user38155265 City water, where I live now, never gets cold enough for involuntary gasps, but if I’d had an unheated bidet when I had a private well… oh yeah, there would have been gasps!
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@yakkoTDI It’s ok after going through a filter pitcher, the problem is getting the pitcher in at the right angle.
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@kuoh I haven’t heard this song in years and now I run across it twice since Saturday.
WMNF played it on The Saturday Night House Party.
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“AI” users are like the noxious shitters that insist on toilet paper being the future.
@DrunkCat Was it your noxious shits that caused them to leave you? Have you tried changing your diet to win them back?
@DrunkCat Wouldn’t toilet paper be the future because we have it right now, and it will probably continue to exist in the future? Do you think we’ll all use bidets in the future, or will the three seashells finally be invented?
Let’s ignore the fact that toilet paper manufacturers are always coming up with ways to innovate toilet paper.
You whiffed on not mentioning some weird tech upgrade for the toilet that a tech bro would actually consider, like a toilet that can read your sphincter to give a health diagnoses, or a self flushing toilet that uses AI or IoT instead of a sensor.
I mean, the tech bro uses a bidet, right? They buy those toilets that plug into the wall and warm the seat while you sit on it.
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@yakkoTDI
Looks like the “AI” bot that is running “@DrunkCat” is falling apart.
/showme an AI bot named DrunkCat that is falling apart
@DrunkCat
/showme noxious shitter’s toilet paper
@AaronLeeJohnson
You sound like Doc Brown guessing the underwear of the future (80s from the 50s) would be disposable diapers.
@pakopako I don’t object to this.
Good brand. Good price. All the important heated stuff.
Note because “elongated” only fits on some newer or retrofitted toilets.
@pmarin Good to point that out so people actually notice that part of the description.
Also reviews state fittings are plastic and not metal so some are finding them cracking and thus leaking. That could be solved by replacing the fittings.
@pmarin From the specs:
@pmarin @rpstrong hmm….this might be worth a try for me lol. Certainly would fit in the “I’m cheap as hell with my own stuff” aesthetic of the master bathroom.
@Kidsandliz @pmarin So meh should sell brass fittings tomorrow then?
@pmarin @seraphimcaduto You could also give it a test spin with cool (usually not cold) water and a room temperature seat before investing in an outlet.
[I bought into basic, <$20 blasters shortly before the COVID madness hit - talk about timing! I dry with a dedicated hand towel ('cuz my butt is worth it), and went through around two rolls of TP over the next couple of years. Never looked back, and never tempted to upgrade.]
@pmarin Hmmm…looks like “standard” means elongated.
@rpstrong that makes no sense. “Standard” was the standard until about the 1970s. In older houses the bathrooms tend to be narrower and in some cases when replacing toilets I had to pick standard because the elongated would have blocked the door or made the room feel cramped. My butt is not that big so it fits on a standard.
I’ve used fancy toilets in Japan. The heated features are nice, but not necessary. I find the cold spritz refreshing. You can buy 5 basic bidets for this price despite being a good deal. Most toilets don’t have a nearby outlet, so that’s something to consider.
@goldnectar It’s especially refreshing if your recent spicy encounters have completed their sailing and are in the final stages of disembarkation.
KuoH
@goldnectar @kuoh My first encounter was in a nice hotel in Shinjuku. The toilet controls were built into a tile wall with indicators and buttons. All labeled in Japanese of course. Eventually figured it out; there weren’t that many orifices to clean.
@goldnectar @pmarin There are more funky orifices than one might think. It probably wouldn’t hurt to lay across the seat and give the belly button a good cleansing every once in awhile.
KuoH
@goldnectar @kuoh @pmarin When I was in Japan I saw some that had a button for “flushing sound.” I asked my aunt why, and she said “Some ladies are so modest, they don’t want anyone to hear them so they flush while using the toilet, but it wastes water.” So an artificial flush to cover any rude noises they might make …
I have never lived in a house or apartment that had an electrical outlet next to the toilet
@st_ellis I paid an electrician to add a bidet outlet, and I STILL have never lived in a house or apartment that had one.
He insisted that code required him to add a whole new helling circuit, and then he put the outlet wherever the hell he wanted, which was not behind the toilet
@st_ellis @whogots
/showme helling circuit
@st_ellis Came here to say this. Thanks.
@st_ellis @whogots where do you live? Not part of the NEC code. Would just need to be on gfci unless you got some fancy 240v 30 amp power shitter.
@st_ellis @user95769129 It was one of my first attempts at upgrading a part of my house, and I’m sure I got rolled.
Toilet rolled.
@st_ellis @user95769129 @whogots My neighbor had a big bathroom remodel but everything was sub-contracted out and I think he paid way too much plus it took about 2 months!
He said he might want to add a bidet seat and they said they said the same thing; new circuit addition to electrician subcontractor. Extra $$ plus commission for the boss. It’s possible it’s true but I think this would apply to the new hard-wired toilets (which do exist now). The plug-in seats like this, I’m not sure. I run mine off a short extension cord(it is a 14 Ga 3-conductor often used for air conditioners). All the instructions say don’t do that but in the grand scheme of dangerous wiring hacks seems to be on the low risk side.
@pmarin @st_ellis @user95769129 The only folks I know who have a heated bidet just drilled a hole through the wall and plugged it into a bedroom outlet. (I do think they changed it to GFCI. I hope.) If a couple of quants can’t find someone to do it right, there’s no hope for me.
And yeah, I recently went through a 75% bathroom restoration. It only took a few days once they started, but the plumbers and drywallers were total goblins.
@pmarin @st_ellis @whogots worst part would be getting a run pulled down through the wall but other than that not a huge cost. Yea i think they took ya but live and learn. Please make sure the extension cord isnt loose and yea its not a real big deal. Honestly though you really want it GFCI protected. You can even buy a GFCI protected cord so you don’t end up on an electric chair.
Exactly what I was going to say. I know someone that actually has an outlet, but I sure don’t. Not planning on having them installed either. Kinda funny, unless the bidet has a blower, I always wondered how you get dry.
@Mandamm
…with a bit of toilet paper.
@Mandamm @ColeSloth some more expensive models do have a heated air blower feature. I have one with that but rarely use it. Mine takes a while to warm up so you’re getting cold air first. A bit of toilet paper works too.
@ColeSloth @Mandamm @pmarin I use the guest towels.
@ColeSloth @Mandamm @pmarin We hung two very soft baby butt washclothes next to the toilet for drying. Work well, and use way less toilet paper than before…
@Mandamm As you can see from my post below, it is very possible to run an expensive bidet through a quality extension cord, albeit not advised by the company.
Said bidet has a heated blower, but I rarely use it. Takes forever so unless I am reading, I am a shit and get off the pot kind of guy. Still use toilet paper to dry, just a lot less.
I know this model requires an outlet, but ones that do not are still a life-changing purchase imho.
@ColeSloth @Mandamm
I find 3 to 4 squares is sufficient. Sorry, I know: TMI.
Buy a hot water circulator and you will have hot water in your bidet. The end.
@CatsAreGods This model heats the water instantly
@CatsAreGods @troy doesn’t the raised back conceal a teeny tiny tank?
@troy My advice was meant for people who don’t have an outlet in their bathroom or who are on the fence about getting a water circulator.
@CatsAreGods
Which would increase energy waste. Plus hot water in the tank could shorten the life of some components like seals and valves.
@CatsAreGods
That’s exactly where you aim it.
@CatsAreGods @Christo196 The previous homeowner swapped the hot and cold lines when they DIYd the new bathroom addition. After two curtesy flushes, your sphincter et al really starts to feel the burn.
/showme a hot sphincter
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@mediocrebot I guess you want all the hot sphincter for yourself.
@mediocrebot so…
The sphincter said “what?”
/showme a exploding hot toilet bidet of poop.
I got a fancier bidet for the master suite bathroom right years ago. One of the best purchases ever . We’re very happy with it.
Had to engage an electrician to put an outlet near to the toilet. Had an outlet on the other side of the wall so he took the power from there. Iirc that was about $150.
@dpease good deal if a real electrician. But what I was told it “officially” needs a completely separate breaker run from power panel.
I suspect that is for hard-wired only but not a surprise it would be pushed by contractors and maybe a good idea if you are doing major remodeling.
We actually got this as a Christmas gift and just installed it. It’s great lol
Seems like an odd gift.
@ckcarlton Maybe from a regular houseguest?
Love my heated Bidet for twice the price. I simply wired a GFCI plug to the plug on the other side of the wall. Only down side is that now I’m so spoiled, that I hate having to go when I’m out, because it’s such a PITA to clean without one.
I wish they came in a round bowl option.
@StGermain they have, just not today’s deal. Also check Home Depot deal of the day, or the W site. Most will cost more but have more features and pretty touch controls. You can pee on them but they are cleanable. Some have a remote control you can mount to the wall, but then I might lose that too along with my TV remote.
While it won’t Make a Margarita, it will make it a comfortable way to get rid of them.
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Team Bidet Advocate for over a decade. I will not ever live without one. Having the house redone, and outlets near the toilets were mandatory. The wiring isn’t finished yet, but I still need my bidet as you can see. Once you have one, you will never want to shit without.
@KNmeh7 Hear hear!! I got a portable bidet too. It’s a Tushy and is shaped like a water bottle and you squeeze it to use. I tried two different electric portable bidets, both of which look like a… cylinder… with a rounded end… shaped like a… well, you know… with a fold-out wand. Not strong enough and ate batteries. The Tushy manual one works well!
A+ Meh icon. Mildly suggestive.
@Timotatoe since I recently dug up old Kliban cartoons (there were the famous cat ones but he did other ones too)
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Anyone know if this will work at all without the power plug — regular water and non-heated seat — or if the power is required for all activity?
Also: quiet close seat or BANG! slams down?
@soundskinky seconded… I don’t need the electrified aspects right now, but when I move I’m taking it with me, and looking at ease of plugs near toilet in my next home. It does say it is quiet close.
@dkaine @soundskinky They had ones for like $20 just cold water no heat. Some in-laws have one and say it’s fine! I’d say go for that and upgrade later.
@dkaine @pmarin @soundskinky Yeah, I have the cold-water-only one that taps into the water supply to the tank. It’s more than fine. The one I got (BioBidet brand) cost around $40, but it was worth the higher price to have metal instead of plastic innards.
Cheap versions have the added bonus of some cheap thrills in winter months… involuntary gasps are guaranteed.
@user38155265 City water, where I live now, never gets cold enough for involuntary gasps, but if I’d had an unheated bidet when I had a private well… oh yeah, there would have been gasps!