Let's play Oregon Trail! An educational adventure in what can go wrong

@stardate820926 I say 3. He's got that banker money, yo. Trickle down. Give that ferryman some cash.

@medz Nope; it's Farmer's money. Another vote for 2.

@narfcake for Christ's sake... Sorry... wall of text...blarf

@stardate820926 Definitely 2. If we had cash, ferry. But don't ford it. Hardly ever worth it, and the stakes are too high as a farmer to be fording rivers this early.

@dave They're saving it for a meh shirt!

@Moose Yes, wait. Do some hunting.

@Moose ferry . although, the opportunity cost associated with the ferry seem quite high--eh, take the ferry.

@DrunkCat 'cept you can't reply to the original post which is how we got started down this path way. Future follow-ups, for sure, should be done as replies.

@mikey I wonder how malleable the caulk of the Oregon Trail era was? What was it even made of? What did the caulk taste like?

@mikey no you will not get me to say this at work.

@mikey Mikey likes caulk!

@mikey Maybe I should make all the caulk-related decisions around here.
After all, I am very handy with my caulk.
Indoors I prefer white caulk - especially in the bathroom.
But outdoors I am ALL ABOUT the brown caulk. I like to take my time working the caulk in.
I've even found that old caulk is generally as good as any other caulk.
But when crossing rivers on The Oregon Trail - caulk is always a good choice.

*All this caulk talk is making me want to fire up The Oregon Trail on my Apple IIe computer sitting in my spare bedroom and relive the glory days of this nostalgic game!

@pepsiwine You have a working Apple II with Oregon Trail?! How long have you had that?

@pepsiwine Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Thanks for the laugh :)

@jqubed Apple II*e*. Yep. 2 of them actually. One with the old, green monochromatic monitor (Apple OEM) and DiskII drive, and another with better cards that's hooked up to a Duodisk and an Amdek color monitor.

And I have, like, at least 4 or so disks of original Oregon Trail, and another couple or so disks with copies of Oregon Trail on them.

Oregon Trail is a decent game, but I bought my Apple IIe's so I could play my all-time favorite game, Below the Root.

I had a new Apple IIe back when they first came out, but was stupid and ditched it when newer computers started coming out (i.e. a Gateway 2000 - woo!!!) the two that I have now were bought used just a few years ago.

@mfladd Uh, what can I say..... I like caulk.

@pepsiwine I remember a couple versions of Oregon Trail from elementary school. There's the one @Moose is playing now, but there was an older one where hunting merely involved 10 animals running across the screen in front of you and you had to hit the spacebar at the right time to shoot them. The rhythm wasn't complicated, though, so it was pretty easy to hit all 10. I definitely remember also shooting robbers in the same manner, which would've dealt well with our bullet thief here. There might've also been a similar mode for fighting off an Indian attack.

Are your versions all the same?

@jqubed Hmm, I've never seen a version where you can shoot robbers or where hunting involved 10 animals running across the screen. Sounds kinda neat. I'm no expert, but I'm guessing there are probably differences in OT depending on what platform it's playing on - Apple, Commodore, MacIntosh, etc. I've only ever played it on an Apple IIe/IIc, and that's what we had in school, too, so that's the only version I've ever seen.

I think all my disks are the same version. I haven't played them all through to the end to note any differences (because that would take FOREVER on these old machines), but I've at least stuck them in, booted them up and seen if they worked okay.

There's really some great games to play on these old Apple computers. I've found some cool ones on the Microzine disk sets they used to make; and of course classics like Choplifter, Dig Dug, Pin Ball, Snooper Troopers, ColorMe Kids, and Below the Root. Good times.

@connorbush I just hope @moose can save his progress...

Throw caution to the wind and drive right through the river

Make the wagon amphibious and float across

The weather is cool... maybe it will get better. Best wait it out.

Support local businesses and flaunt wealth by taking the ferry.

@Moose FUCK CAUTION AND EVERYBODY WHO ADVOCATES FOR IT

@CaffeineGuy Until you ford a river and everyone gets wet, and then sick, and then dead.

@CaffeineGuy gotta have the clothes to trade the native for easy access over the river in a thousand miles or so.

@luvche21 Love this game! I found it by accident one night and sat up for HOURS playing it.

@koalamoo it's very well made too. I especially enjoy the references to the original game.

@pepsiwine i always vote for dissing Terry.

@Willijs3 um... pardon if this sounds rude, but not a native English speaker?

@trisk Incorrect. Born and raised in the good ol' U. S. of A. and damn proud of it.

My vocabulary just sucks.

Try to repair it, John Elway can handle anything!

Say no. We only really need three wheels. Or maybe this means we just throw away the broken one and use our spare? I'm really not sure.

@Moose We can do this. What would MacGyver do?

@Moose I have faith John Elway will pull through with the repairs.

@Moose Repair

@Moose THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING!?!?!?!?! Did we succeed in repairing the wheel? Someone's gunna die. One does not Survive the Oregon trail.

@Moose Trade in the wagon for a hot air balloon.

@PWiddy The kind of farmer who was forced to pack up and move out west :)

River? More like puddle. Drive right through.

Go with what worked last time. Float it across.

The weather is cool. That seems bad. Best wait until conditions clear up.

FORD THE RIVER!

@Moose You got something against information, buddy?

@Moose - Gotta check and see if the bottom is too soft for the wagon wheels.

@Moose

@Moose We're never going to make it to Oregon at this pace!

@PWiddy Monday

@PWiddy @sammydog01 I've got Sunday!

@PWiddy Dissing Terry was addressed above.

@PWiddy Hmm, I'll take Tuesday.

@MrGlass This is really great fun. Looking forward to the next game... Meh plays Myst?

@trisk Myst!!! YESSSS!!!!

@Mehntok

@MrMark winning

@MrMark Geez... no wonder they were almost extinct!

@MrMark Back then we called that educational. These days, would probably be called gritty & realistic.

@MrMark Y U post spoilers?

@MrMark

@Mehntok

@dewaynelawson

(F Troop in the house)

@dewaynelawson pretty sure calling native americans that will peeve them off way more than the buffalo thing

Let's check out this little fort, I'm getting tired of seeing the same ugly faces every day.

Let's keep moving! I've heard terrible things about these creeps at Fort Kearney.

Let's go faster! I'm already tired of this trip and want it to be over.

Let's slow down a bit, the goats are looking weary.

Let's stay at the same pace, "strenuous" is quite nice I think.

@Moose OOOh no, we lose one day. Thats a terrible consequence, totally wouldnt have that if we took one of our other options like, um... waiting?

@Moose Wait, I thought we were trekking at "strenuous". If this is grueling, I've got more in me yet. Let's go for ludicrous speed!

@djslack actually you're right, I put "grueling" but meant "strenuous." Voting stays the same either way though

@Moose I notice health has dropped to fair. If you don't want to decrease pace we should increase rations to compensate. Good excuse to go hunting!

@Moose Seriously people? You want to check out the fort? Nope. You have no idea was is going on.

I am Hitchhiking.

@Rosstafari @Moose

@Rosstafari I took out a bye in my D/ST position last week and got a negative 3. So maybe it was strategic?

@sammydog01 I feel your pain, brother. Or sister. Or unspecified. What's important is that your pain, I feel it.

Yeah let's take a look, maybe the grave has a funny name on it or like an ominous warning

No, it's probably a trap set by inbred mountain folk who want to steal our young and eat us

Also, let's bump up the food a little bit to "meager," no use starving ourselves

Also, let's bump up the food a bunch to "filling," we deserve a reward for only losing like a hundred days getting lost or wet

Also, let's keep the food at "bare bones," I want to look nice and sickly when I get to Oregon.

@Moose Bump up the food to filling for 3-4 days until health improves, then drop it back down to conserve.

Look around!

Should probably rest a few days and do some hunting so we can increase the rations and try to get health up.

@Moose Hunt!

@MEHcus If you keep making decisions like that no one will die of dysentery :(

@MrGlass I'm setting them up, don't worry.

@Moose Hunt people.

@harrison
That's pretty discouraging.
Unless it's hot and they need a bath.

@Moose Continue onward, Fort Laramie is notorious for brainwashing visitors into staying forever and luring more Oregon travelers into its doors.

@Moose Look around. Steal bullets.

@Moose Look around, see if you can replace your lost ammunition.
(Seriously, who the hell steals 12 bullets?)

@Moose sleep for 7 days to get super health

@Moose change you pace to slow and meander on past

@Thumperchick maybe that's all he could stash inside his football.

@Moose Restart and bring along more ammo this time.

@Moose I say rest and try to trade.

@mikey FARMERS can't afford more ammo.

@Thumperchick We left $10 on the table at the store. That's like three years of wages back in the olden days. Surely that could have bought at least 50 more bullets.

@mikey Leaving with absolutely no cash left is a terrible plan, though...

Burn that mother down!

@Thumperchick Relatively speaking, traveling the Oregon Trail at all was a terrible idea back in those early days. But regardless, John Elway could manage with just 1 set of clothes if it meant 50 extra bullets.

@Moose maybe there's a doc to set poor Hiram's leg?

@Moose No! Don't stop to look around! We need to get to Oregon before everyone dies of exhaustion. Push harder. The more wagoneers that die, the further our food will go/less our oxen will have to work.

@Moose Yes, I had Monday for dysentary. Die, John Elway, die.

@Moose Look around, rest for a few days, slow the pace, and raise the ration level. And maybe look at a map.

@Moose SLEEP 7 DAYS BRO

@Moose Stop for 5 days to do some resting and increase health. While resting, get a few hunts in to get the food levels back to the 300 pound range for the next trek.

@Moose Let's sum up the health situation : Hiram has a broken leg. Grover and Ethel are suffering from exhaustion and John Elway has dysentery.
It's May 26. Looks like we are about half way and still have some mountains to cross.
I think we have time to rest up and regroup before hitting the mountains.

Leave an offering of wild fruit on the pile of rocks to appease the huldufólk

@MEHcus pretty sure there's no multithreading in Oregon Trail, everything is super serial

PS @Moose forget this democracy nonsense, let's make this a proper lottery based on # of stars and an rng

@Moose And I would like to add that at Independence Rock the most important thing we do is write our names on the rock. Maybe some dates too. Heck everyone's into the graffiti thing here.

@Moose Looks like about 10 lbs of food a day so we're down to 9 days left. Maybe a couple of days to rest? What is the water situation? Do we need to find a river? The ground water apparently has cholera.

@ceagee That. Is a much too fancy map. Somebody is playing as a banker.

@Moose why did we go from after hunting an increase of food to 252lbs to now 5 lbs 2 days later ? Did we eat 250 lbs of food ? damn we must really be sick now.

@ceagee OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!

@ceagee screenshots out of order for narrative purposes. But also yes the food runs out super fast

@Moose Eat oxen.

OK, maybe a bad idea.

@Moose do you mean something like this ?

@Moose slow the pace to steady/good and up the rations to filling. That rest would've upped health had we filled bellies the whole time.

Press spacebar to continue

@MrGlass I think moose is gone for the day. Either that or he got dysentery.

@ceagee Oh ceagee ceagee ceagee, if I don't respond now, how will he know what to do in the morning?

@MrGlass That's true. But I just wanted to put it out there about the dysentery, because you never know.

ETA maybe we should send moose some Pepto ?

@ceagee Does pepto help with dysentery? I guess it couldn't hurt much.

@MrGlass I just assumed it might work as a "stop gap" until you can get to a doctor and get antibx.
So I googled. Apparently, it's better as a prophylactic against dysentery. And that Imodium works better as an "after" treatment. But for bad cases you are going to still need something to kill whatever little bugger is causing it. And hydration hydration hydration. Some probiotics are very helpful to reset the system.
I guess he might need a whole kit of tools.

@ceagee He might be limited to snake oil though. It was supposed to be very good.

@KDemo So you are voting for making the dandelion wine and selling it ?

@Moose Can we eat an ox now?

@Moose When did we get a goat?

@Moose Keep the diet at filling, but up the pace a notch until we find grass

@sammydog01 No, we have to give them proper burials in accordance with their wishes/religious beliefs. Grover is fair game though.
@MEHcus Third picture

Caulk the ox and let it float the rest of the way.

@mediobarkre

caulk the ox

read aloud

@Moose Get ye flask

@Moose Carry on until we find some grass and then rest a few days to do some more hunting so we can keep rations up before we make it to the next landmark.

@Moose Dig a hole for water- since there is no one around maybe we won't get cholera.

@Moose sleep for 30 days. everybody wants to die warm in their bed, anyway, so why give in to the inevitable dysentery?

@Moose Hey! Our health went up to "fair" and we were kind of okay until the muppet got measles...

@Moose Set pace to plaid.

@Moose Hey, "press spacebar to continue" was a real suggestion! And the only suggestion that followed an option shown on the screenshot!

@Moose It looks like Soda Springs is closer than the fort. There will be clean water and probably grass at the river. I vote the river crossing.

@Moose Head to Soda Springs for some of that sweet, natural spring Soda Water. It'll go good with some Whiskey.

@Moose No matter what, we have to cross a river. I say we head toward the fort and cross to the south. If we cross to the north, and we dump our wagon, we're screwed for a while. If we dump on the way to the fort, we can re-supply/rest/bury our dead at the fort.

@Willijs3 And we can give them all the measles too. They when they die we can take their stuff. Good plan.

@Moose poor health requires a nice respite, go to the fort and buy nameplates and keychains for the whole family

@Willijs3 Maybe there's a bridge across the river to Fort Bridger.. That would make life easier!

Remind me.. Why didn't we just fly out there? Seems like the road trip idea isn't working out so well!

@kadagan The eagles weren't willing to fly that close to Mt Doom, so we had to walk most of the way. Maybe if we almost get killed by wargs they'll give us a short lift.

@Moose Can you buy some (good) water? Buy a couple pounds of food too, I suppose.

@Moose How did we end up at the fort? The Soda Springs answer clearly had the most stars from the jump.

@Thumperchick "Clearly," maybe, but @Sammydog01 seemed to change her vote in the hopes of bioterrorism and other comments agreed with the fort without voting and there might've been people voting after I started toward the fort and also don't question the wagon leader

@Moose

@Moose Let us rest.

@Moose sammydog01 is a she ;)

@Moose Lower food rations and trade for some food. Doesn't 8 seem like a lot of oxen? And it's summer- who needs clothes?

@Moose start eating bullets, since we have over a hundred but no damn food

@sammydog01 Too bad you can't eat an oxen. No wasted bullets and since it's right next to the wagon, you don't have to worry about it being over 100 pounds.

@medz I'm quite impressed that moose can carry a hundred pounds of meat that far. He must work out.

@Moose Can we trade Groover or Ethyl for some food ? Or maybe just pimp Ethyl out to the soldiers at the Fort ?

@Moose Drop our pace a notch, and rest 3 days. Hunt afterwards.

@Moose Grover thinks food is way better than clothing.

@madamehardy Soda springs is in Idaho. I checked on the nicer map I posted way up.

@ceagee There used to be one in Wyoming, close to Fort Bridger. http://www.satelliteview.co/?lid=5838872_US_HSPNG_WY&place=Soda-Springs-WY

@Lotsofgoats He better hope he doesn't lead us to Donner Pass.

@Lotsofgoats Time for rebellion ?

@Lotsofgoats Yes, in addition to a gun we also need to watch our back...dang thing didn't kill anyone by itself yet again!

@Moose

@Moose and we can't hunt at the fort, right?

@Thumperchick Correct. We can leave and hunt immediately though.

@Moose well, let's do that!
Leave. Hunt. Hunt more.

@Thumperchick @Moose Hunt until you've got at least 300 pounds of food.

@Moose hunt up alllll the meat (stopping the hunt once you've got 2+ deer or a buffalo/bear) and jack our rations up to filling, you monster. we're dying here!

@Moose I'm hungry. Why didn't you shoot and bbq that oxen instead of trading it ? why ?

Grover need food.

@Moose I voted for hunt, mostly in hope of you showing the video of your hunting "skills." That's been the best part of all this.

@madamehardy When a family member dies, I want to see our food supply quietly go up by 50-70 lbs.

@MOOSE WATCH THOSE HARD P'S THO BRO

@Moose Soda Springs sounds awesome! Onward, no more lollygagging.

@Moose Are we there yet?

@Moose Pew, pew! Nicely done!

@Moose increase rations and move out!

@MEDZ WE JACKED THOSE UP TO FILLING, NOW WE'RE LIVING LIKE KINGS. ALL HAIL @MOOSE THE PROVIDER.

I can't edit my reply anymore, so I'll just add this compelling reason we need to go to Soda Springs posthaste.

I am just going to leave this here.... http://www.wordblanks.com/mad-libs/story/9936

for the children to do whilst on the trail.

@Moose I was really expecting a screaming goat sound effect

@Moose OH MY GOD NOT GENTLE BEN!

@Moose Thank you for the pew pew pews, I laughed my ass off.

@Moose This is taking fooooreeeveeeeeeer. Ugh!

@chellemonkey I can only assume that we have all died and he's trying to figure out how best to let us know...

@Lotsofgoats I feel like @Moose would take great pleasure in that. I think he is hiding from people who didn't get fukus

@chellemonkey @lotsofgoats went out of town for the weekend, I'll update Monday at the latest!

@Moose Enjoy your precious lil weekend there, guy.

@Moose out of town at a fort? Have fun

@Moose the anticipation. it is so... anticipationy.

@Bogie I'll be driving us to Soda Springs this morning. Java threatened to update and restart my computer, wiping us out, but thankfully nothing like that has happened yet!

@Moose java, worse than dysentery.

@Thumperchick caffeine does have a laxative effect after all

@Moose Lets take a look around, drink some of that soda! Maybe fill up a few canteens since apparently no one in our party has heard of a dowsing rod.

@Moose Look around. Hunt more. Don't stay more than 3 turns/days.
What are our settings? Pace/Rations/etc.?

@Moose I'm confused- what's that puddle of blue stuff if it's not water?

@Moose What can we do to improve on health? We need to be healthier? Can someone explain to me how no one has died yet!?

@Moose shoot anybody who tries to call it "Pop Springs" or "Coke Springs"

also see if the hunting is good. if no, maybe rest a day then set off at a strenuous pace. we wanna get somewhere with water but we don't wanna die trying.

@Moose Dig a well? That an option?

@Moose omg those purple mountains majesty af

@Moose Can you buy a set of weight so you can train and carry back more meat from hunting. 100 pounds only, what kind of weakling are you?

@MrGlass we've known 100 pounds is a thing for the entire trip. he just wants to murder all the animals or he's just really bad at estimating.

I MEAN, ALL HAIL MOOSE THE PROVIDER!

@MrGlass Yeah.

@MrGlass @Willisjs3 Oh please I'd like to see any of you carry this many meats!

@Lotsofgoats It's hard to judge. I can guess how much a deer weighs, but how much meat from a deer? No idea.

@Moose What's our pace/ration situation look like?

@Moose this is why we should have been compiling meat stats since the beginning! for science!

@Moose well done lad

@Thumperchick Strenuous and filling. I took a screenshot of that and then forgot why I had taken one so I didn't upload it.

@Moose I'll have you know I carried 25lbs of meat to my office just last week from the pastures of manhattans upper west side supermarkets! It was easy! Sure I packed it in the back of my uber, but Im sure these humble travelers could fashion a sled or other conveyance to help them carry their meat home!

@MrGlass Or pull the wagon up.

@Moose Ok, maybe hunt one more time for another 100 lbs of food, then head out.

@Moose Lower the pace and keep the rations up...hunt anytime you fall below 150 lbs of food

@Moose
Getting into the mountains we need to haul ass to beat early snows near Boise. It's going to start to get cold at night too.Can we keep the deer and bear hides to make blankets ? Do they let you do that ?

@Moose if the hunting is good then keep hunting mannnn... show us how many meats you can handle!

@ceagee we've seen everything that can be done while on the trail, essentially. hunting, resting, pace, rations, general hopelessness.

@Moose Are the dysentary and measles fixed?

@sammydog01 also a broken leg

@Lotsofgoats I would think w/ all the tech talent here a hack to change that would be in order.

@ceagee bah, work!

@Moose We've been stopped too long ! We're losing time ! We're all going to die !! Ahhhhhhhh !!!!!!

@ceagee ceagee ceagee ceagee, just calm down, you'll give yourself the dysentery with all the excitement

@ceagee valid. We need sanctuary.

@Moose I feel like if we try to use our caulk again it is going to end badly. But indians seem like they could be nefarious....but we do have all those clothes. Do we know how much the indian wants? the one in the picture looks friendly enough...

@Moose Hire the Indian to help.

@Moose Replace oxen with snakes

@chellemonkey

@Moose I think we should take stock of our little wagon members: First i would like to point out Groover has had measles 2x and I don't think that is medically possible. Just saying.
And Hiram now has broken arm and leg ? Ethyl has a broken leg. She previously had dysentery. And John Elway is exhausted. I forget what he had earlier.

I vote for getting more information. What can that hurt ? We can always hire a Native American later or do some caulking.

@Moose ok too late for my choice.
We have 10 sets of clothing ?
so more than 2 each . If we trade 3 someone is going to die. It seems pretty obvious. Just sayin'

@ceagee I guess I'm ok with getting more info but I mean we have a lot of clothes, most our people don't want to change due to illness, exhaustion, or pain so they can just stay naked/in what they are wearing.

@ceagee @chellemonkey I can say no to the Indian and "get more info," but I don't know if the offer will still be for clothes if/when we come back to the Indian.

@Moose @chellemonkey Do these 10 sets clothes include what we have on ? My thinking is that means you have an extra set for each in an instance of getting wet or snow/cold( we are headed for mountains) and if we get rid of 3 that means one person is short. So one person croaks. But maybe not. Maybe the NA is the way to get safely across.

For me it depends on if those clothes are all extra or include what we are wearing. And if we want to sacrifice someone.

@Moose @chellemonkey do you have a coin ? heads w/ go with the guide and tails we ask for more info first.

@Moose Pay the man!!

@Moose Pull an Evil Kneivel!

Oh wait- that didn't go too well.

@Moose Hire Iron Eyes Cody. Those clothes may look important now, but once people start dying we'll have plenty to spare.

@MrGlass This man speaks truth. Also...

What are you hiding!? More like "Inadequate statistics". Amirite?

@Moose If the game represents reality (As it's shown so far), you don't want to mess with the Snake River. Caulking the wagon will probably end with us sinking and losing inventory. The Native Americans will run away because we'll get them sick, so no point in doing that. We will not make it if we ford the river (It's too deep). Seriously, just don't mess with Idaho.

I vote we turn around, go home, and accept the fact that only awesome hard core people can live/survive in Idaho.

(honest answer - "Hire an Indian to help)

oh man just wait until we get to the Columbia River...

This man is clearly wearing an offensive "Indian" costume he got at the Halloween store and grossly appropriating Native American culture. Here's an actual picture of a Shoshone camp:

Still, he seems to know what he's talking about, so hire him, but keep a close eye on him.

Counterpoint: this guy is also a Shoshone, and our guide is super into clothes so it makes sense that his vest would be ballin' as hell.

@Moose I mean i was referring to the feather. That vest is, in fact, quite ballin'

@Moose hunt!

@Moose Go hunting NOW.
And how come if Ethyl broke her arm over all health is "fair" which is the best it's been since we've started. whatever.
Get me something to eat. I'm hungry. Can you shoot some cheerios for breakfast?

@Moose hunt all the meats. hunt until alllllll the animals are dead. seriously we can carry like 2000lbs of meat in the wagon and it doesn't go bad because we're badass and make everything into jerky.

@Moose How are we doing on bullets? I know your aim is improving but do we need to get some more at the fort?

@Moose Make sure you have bullets then rest 3 days to get health back up and hunt until food is over 300 lbs. btw...no one has scurvy yet from an all meat diet?

@tightwad That wild fruit must have an impressive amount of vitamin C.

@tightwad No rest. Our health is the highest it's been since we started - "fair". Mediocre in other words

@ceagee Open wide. Cheerios incoming.

It's October 21st. I say hunt and book it for Oregon.

@Moose I'm so happy that you didn't write: Code for "we found a group of Indians and took their dog"
Although food may mean dog. :(

@Moose @mediobarkre Yes. Get a couple deer and put it on full speed ahead. How'd it get to be October so soon. Time flies when you're on the trail.

@Moose Never expected to see "good" health again, are we still plodding along at a leisurely pace?

@Moose At least we made it through Donner Pass. I hope we kept some snow boots.

@mediobarkre Agreed, let's get some food and book it. Also, lower rations as health is good now so you can hunt less.

@Moose I knew we should have bought 2 boxes of ammo a few places back when it was $3.50/box.. would have worked out perfectly! Hunt once or twice, then get movie quickly! That 20 days spent trying to trade our oxen away is starting to hurt!

@Moose MORE MEATS MORE MEATS MORE MEATS MORE MEATS MORE MEATS MORE MEATS MORE MEATS MORE MEATS

@Moose We are dangerously low on bullets and our cash on hand is less than the cost of another box. We should drive down the cost of bullets by manipulating the economy.

@MrGlass We should print more money!

@sammydog01 The Oregon Trail doesn't got through the Donner Pass. That's on the way to California. I'm glad you are not the navigator. But if you were, at least it would be easy to decide who to BBQ first.

@kadagan Plus someone eh, umm cough @moose cough.. used up a lot of bullets on meat he had to leave in the forest. Let's hope he didn't catch on to that trick too late.

@ceagee Oops, the map I looked at has Soda Springs on it. Apparently there were a lot of Soda Springs back in those days. And I'd eat Hiram- it's not like he can run away.

@sammydog01 Would he want to run away if you offered that ?

@ceagee I think the best he could do is roll away. And that would probably hurt.

@Moose idk

@PWiddy I agree, This is what we should do.

@Moose Book it to the Dalles. Walla Walla is out of the way and we have no money.

@Moose The Dalles looks like a more direct route, but Walla Walla is so much more fun to say, so I say head to Fort Walla Walla.

@Moose I've driving the road along the river to get to The Dalles many, many times. I'm not sure we can make it through the mountains. Walla Walla may take longer but it's the safer, flatter route. Plus why wouldn't we want to add 1 more state to our journey!?

@Bogie I feel like this should have been information that was included in the game! I vote safer since hiram is already mostly broken.

@chellemonkey Maybe we should Talk to People to get the skinny.

@Moose DON'T LISTEN TO THESE SUCKERS ASKING FOR FLAT LAND, WE ARE WARRIORS

ALSO, MORE MEAT

@Moose Why don't the Blue Mountains have mountains on the map? It looks like we are mountain free either way but that doesn't sound right. I'm with Sabre99 and Bogie- if it's desert we may need to stop at the fort.

@Moose Don't head out of the way to go to that tourist trap, theres nothing to see there - that bioterrorism attack wont happen for at least another century! You've got to think fourth dimensionally!

Head straight to the Dalles. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200..... ok on second thought that $200 might be worth stopping for.

@Moose At first I thought the Dalles b/c I've been there and it's a pretty drive through the Columbia river gorge. But then I got all physic in a back to the future wa and "remembered" this:

The Dalles was named by fur trappers for the French word for gutter. Here emigrants floated down the Columbia River in rafts through the stony river gorge.

The passage, with emigrants and their wagons crowded onto a small wooden raft, was often perilous. As N.M. Bogart described in 1843, "When trying to pass some of the Cascades their frail craft would get caught in one of the many whirlpools, the water dashing over them, and drenching them through and through."

The Passage of the Dalles, Columbia River, Oregon.
The Barlow Toll Road opened in 1845, offering emigrants an alternative to the Columbia River route to Oregon City. The wagon ride along the toll road took a long route around Mount Hood, but it was a much safer method than rafting.

Do we have enough for the toll ?

On the other hand, I do like white water rafting.
I stand by my vote for the Dalles.

@Moose Where are we at?

@Moose It seems we're at an impasse. I suggest we head back east to civilization!

@kadagan I heard "the east" has dysentery. Or, maybe, it was just a broken arm.

@Bogie Columbia River is 100% the best part of this game. It's there, somewhere...

@Lotsofgoats I think the river mini-game was only in some later versions. Don't know if we'll get to play :(

@MrGlass DON'T SPOIL THE SURPRISE ALSO NOBODY READ THE COMMENT I'M REPLYING TO EVEN THOUGH CAPS LOCK CALLS ATTENTION TO IT NOW OOPS

@Lotsofgoats crap i may of already ruined surprise above. oh well. it will still be fun << not one cap to be found.

@Moose Hell, we've made it this far. Throw caution to the wind and float down the Columbia River.

@Moose RELEASE THE RRRRRRRRRIVERRR or just float down it it's pretty cool do that

@Moose I doubt you can run the toll road for $2.50 and it might take forever to get enough cash. Go for the river. If Hiram falls in tough luck.

@Moose Probably can't afford the road. Take the river, and try to learn quickly!!

@Moose oh also remember to record it all, when you decide to take the river

@Moose Float down the river! If Hiram wants to live he'll learn how to back float real quick.

@Moose I just played through the flash version quickly (on grueling pace, and I had a ton of luck!) it looks like the toll road is $8..

@Moose And just for comparison sake..

It looks like I should have taken a lot more time to hunt! Food is worth more than bullets, and getting to Oregon quickly doesn't give any points.. I made it in August!

@kadagan awww shieettttt flash OT?! I've fired 1 bullet and killed 1 buffalo so far. PERFECT RECORD!

@Moose float float float

@Lotsofgoats Link

@kadagan just finished, 4041 points

@Lotsofgoats Anybody notice this shirt on the Woot-off? It's called "A wormhole in Oregon".
http://shirt.woot.com/offers/a-wormhole-in-oregon?ref=cnt_ctlg_dgn_0

@Moose well it sounds like we can't afford the toll, so river looks to be our only option.

@Moose Take the river! Don't you get to control the raft back and forth to dodge things in the river? Maybe that was a different game...

@medz I took the toll road and had to dodge natives and other wagons a la Frogger. Too bad we have to float down the stupid river.

@mikey how much did you have to pay ?

@ceagee $8 in quarters.

@Moose Swim, Hiram, swim!

@Moose Crashed! And it was just one river float away from retirement!

@Moose Thanks so much for the journey. I guess we were amazingly lucky the first time except for the software crash. Is there a home version that doesn't require excessive amounts of hacking?

@sammydog01 This site has the version we played, Oregon Trail Deluxe, and the bullshit Canadian trucker knockoff "Crosscountry Canada" among other games.