@sammydog01 I have a 4th gen basic Kindle that I use in the bath and other something-bad-may-happen situations and a Voyage for the rest of the time. When I got one for my parner as a gift though, I definitely went for the waterproof version. Bae is a danger to all consumer electronics, great and small.
@n8mack33 I think this is in the cheaper end of the common price band for a refurbished Kindle of the not-quite-newest generation (cheaper than going through Amazon Warehouse deals). New models are usually $20-$30 off for Prime Day/Black Friday/etc. Last year the Paperwhite was $79.99 for Prime Day. Between the 7th and 8th generation the biggest significant change was that the 8th generation is waterproof. If that’s worth an extra $20(ish) for you, then wait for an Amazon sale.
@n8mack33 The latest one (larger and has controlled light color so you can avoid the bad LED blues before bed) but it’s like $250 or 280. Lots of bucks for a Kindle.
I have one of these and it’s fine for what it is. BTW the Amazon trade-in value on this model was like $20 and I was thinking “What???” – it’s definitely worth more than that but don’t buy hoping to turn it in on a new one.
@n8mack33 The base model Kindle is now fairly equivalent to this one now that it has lighting, other than having a screen with lower PPI. It will likely be a fair amount cheaper during Prime Day, also, you get trade-in credit + 25% off a new one if you have an old one to trade in. I’ve gotten some really cheap base-model Kindles in the past via an Amex deal that I can probably trade for a profit with this.
@hchavers@pmarin actually this is The Glass Magician book 2, and fortuity box is one of those origami paper fortune teller things kids make. Good series, quick read.
I came to ask the same question! I own this same model and go through spurts where I do a lot of reading. It’s great and a huge upgrade from my old “keyboard kindle” v1 in most respects. For this listing, have the Special Offers been removed?
Also keep in mind you can get Kindle Fire’s which are basically poor-mans-tablets tied to Amazon. You can do all Kindle reading on those also, but because it has a color screen (not the “digital ink” these use), you have much shorter battery life (a few hrs of use, max). But you can also use for video, audiobooks, music. On previous deals (look for amazon deals next week), they have been $29 (7 inch), $49 (8 inch), $99 (10 inch). I don’t recommend the 7 but the 8 or 10, on sales like above, are worth considering. But again for just “reading books” when you don’t need color pictures, a Kindle like this paperwhite is best.
@arielleslie They started with much higher-end tablets that were pretty nice. The “HDX” was an amazing tablet and I felt competitive with (in some ways superior to) an iPad of that time. But it was expensive at $200-300+ (though still about 1/2 of Apple price).
After that they shifted to ultra-cheap Kindle Fires they are basically bottom-end tablets at a bottom-end price, now about 1/5 - 1/8 of Apple price.)
I still have my 3rd Gen w/ 3G (the one with the physical keyboard and unrestricted web browsing). Granted, it needs to be charged up so I don’t know if the 3G data still works.
It is worth nothing that this may be a 7th gen Kindle device, but it is the THIRD gen Paperwhite. This model came out in 2015, so it is aging. And any comparison to the cost of a new one should be taken with a grain of salt.
Yes, and as I had mentioned earlier, Amazon’s trade-in-value ($20 last I checked)* confirms this. It’s an older model and probably at $59 not a great deal – at least wait and see what Prime Day has to offer
*even with a 25% extra trade-in promo that’s still only $25.
@RedOak “bug out bag?” Make sure to download all the books you want to read in the future, since after the event (whatever the form of the destructor takes), there probably won’t be servers to download from. Given that, you might want one of the newer ones with more storage (this has 4GB, but you can still hold a lot of books in that much).
Actually your idea kind-of makes sense and I hadn’t thought of it (whether it’s just a minor nuclear conflict, of just a series of earthquakes – when could that ever happen?)
BTW even a small solar charger with USB 5V output could easily charge this so you’d have essentially infinite life. (well, till the zombies come…)
@RedOak I was considering making an emergency book pack made of good howtos and plant identifications and things like that. Survival, construction, engineering, from scratch, like all the information you’d want and wouldn’t be able to remember if you were accidentally transported to a pre-medieval society.
But then I discovered it’s actually really hard to find that kind of information. Like if you try to find how to make glass, to pick something that should be relatively easy, you get a bunch of “sand and a lot of heat” but then you have to find out how to make a furnace that produces sufficient heat using primitive materials, which is a surprisingly difficult thing to find. And if I could find the answer to that, I’m confident that answer would only lead to further tricky prerequisites!
@RedOak That is a good point, makes me wonder if these are “used” at all, or just old stock that Amazon is clearing out. It’s happened before that something sold as “refurb” is actually just excess stock of a previous model that never left the warehouse shelves.
I use my phone. With various ereaders, nook, & kindle. My son was doing it & I thought he was nuts until I tried it
I like it. & I always have the book I am currently reading with me. My productivity at work has suffered slightly though.
@ryanruppe mine is still processing as well. I was worried, especially after getting my IRK so quickly, but I guess now that they aren’t doing the two week or longer shipping they can send it out a lot closer to the estimated received date.
Ok, this may be a long shot: has anyone not received their Kindle yet, and is NOT interested in jailbreaking it?
Mine arrived, and I stupidly set it up and connected to WiFi. It then, without prompting from me, updated itself to the newest firmware. Now the only way to jailbreak is if I do a hardware mod I do not trust myself with!
Would someone who has not set theirs up yet be willing to swap with me? I’ll pay for shipping both ways, plus at least $10 (and open for negotiation)! I can also provide any, uh, totally legit ebooks you request.
Just received mine. Looks like it went through a wood chipper. Missing chunks of plastic and scratched up. Maybe chewed by an animal? This is not refurbished quality.
Ok folks. There are two times companies use the word ‘refurbished.’ One is the Apple-esque ‘someone touched this once outside of China so we cleaned, inspected, and reboxed it,’ where you can’t tell the difference between it and new unless you get out gloves and a magnifying glass.
The other is when they think ‘used’ would force them to make it cheaper.
This is the second one. Scratched screen, scratched case, dead flat battery. The word is ‘used.’
@kizen99 except it says refurbished, which in no way implies the condition the one I received. “Used” is even generous for how bad the one I got is. It’s being taken care of, but if you don’t mean like-new refurbished then it needs to be made very clear that is the case.
SPECS
What’s In The Box?
Price Comparison
$99 (for refurbished) at Amazon
Warranty
1 Year Amazon
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 20th - Friday, July 24th
/giphy Break time
I resisted buying an e-reader for so long, but once I finally caved I discovered that I fucking love the Kindle.
@arielleslie Me too, especially now that I need bifocals. I prefer the bathtub version though.
@sammydog01 I have a 4th gen basic Kindle that I use in the bath and other something-bad-may-happen situations and a Voyage for the rest of the time. When I got one for my parner as a gift though, I definitely went for the waterproof version. Bae is a danger to all consumer electronics, great and small.
TWO HOURS WITHOUT A DEAL. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO???
/giphy crying
Phew…now I can get some stuff done
Meh selling Amazon gadgets makes me do a double take. I always worry for a second that Jeff Bezos came back for a second helping of breakfast octopus.
@lljk Woot are you talking about?
@lljk maybe next time it’ll be brunch barnacles?
So is this a good deal? I’ve been thinking about picking up another Paperwhite for my kids. Was waiting for Prime Day but now I’m reconsidering…
@n8mack33 I think this is in the cheaper end of the common price band for a refurbished Kindle of the not-quite-newest generation (cheaper than going through Amazon Warehouse deals). New models are usually $20-$30 off for Prime Day/Black Friday/etc. Last year the Paperwhite was $79.99 for Prime Day. Between the 7th and 8th generation the biggest significant change was that the 8th generation is waterproof. If that’s worth an extra $20(ish) for you, then wait for an Amazon sale.
@n8mack33 The latest one (larger and has controlled light color so you can avoid the bad LED blues before bed) but it’s like $250 or 280. Lots of bucks for a Kindle.
I have one of these and it’s fine for what it is. BTW the Amazon trade-in value on this model was like $20 and I was thinking “What???” – it’s definitely worth more than that but don’t buy hoping to turn it in on a new one.
@n8mack33 The base model Kindle is now fairly equivalent to this one now that it has lighting, other than having a screen with lower PPI. It will likely be a fair amount cheaper during Prime Day, also, you get trade-in credit + 25% off a new one if you have an old one to trade in. I’ve gotten some really cheap base-model Kindles in the past via an Amex deal that I can probably trade for a profit with this.
Can someone turn the page? I want to read what Ceony does.
@hchavers I think the book is Paper Magicians by Charlie Holmburg
@hchavers And what is a “fortuity box?”
@hchavers @Kessilari can confirm having read this book series multiple times. And now I want to read again. Well written in my opinion.
@hchavers @pmarin actually this is The Glass Magician book 2, and fortuity box is one of those origami paper fortune teller things kids make. Good series, quick read.
Is this the one with “special offers” or without?
I came to ask the same question! I own this same model and go through spurts where I do a lot of reading. It’s great and a huge upgrade from my old “keyboard kindle” v1 in most respects. For this listing, have the Special Offers been removed?
@2palms yeah this is important. which one?
Gave up on the glitchy clock eh?
Also keep in mind you can get Kindle Fire’s which are basically poor-mans-tablets tied to Amazon. You can do all Kindle reading on those also, but because it has a color screen (not the “digital ink” these use), you have much shorter battery life (a few hrs of use, max). But you can also use for video, audiobooks, music. On previous deals (look for amazon deals next week), they have been $29 (7 inch), $49 (8 inch), $99 (10 inch). I don’t recommend the 7 but the 8 or 10, on sales like above, are worth considering. But again for just “reading books” when you don’t need color pictures, a Kindle like this paperwhite is best.
@pmarin I was actually really disappointed with the Kindle Fire. It was buggy for tablet stuff and not at all comfortable/enjoyable for reading.
@arielleslie They started with much higher-end tablets that were pretty nice. The “HDX” was an amazing tablet and I felt competitive with (in some ways superior to) an iPad of that time. But it was expensive at $200-300+ (though still about 1/2 of Apple price).
After that they shifted to ultra-cheap Kindle Fires they are basically bottom-end tablets at a bottom-end price, now about 1/5 - 1/8 of Apple price.)
I still have my 3rd Gen w/ 3G (the one with the physical keyboard and unrestricted web browsing). Granted, it needs to be charged up so I don’t know if the 3G data still works.
It is worth nothing that this may be a 7th gen Kindle device, but it is the THIRD gen Paperwhite. This model came out in 2015, so it is aging. And any comparison to the cost of a new one should be taken with a grain of salt.
Yes, and as I had mentioned earlier, Amazon’s trade-in-value ($20 last I checked)* confirms this. It’s an older model and probably at $59 not a great deal – at least wait and see what Prime Day has to offer
*even with a 25% extra trade-in promo that’s still only $25.
It says Paperwhite, but it looks Mediocreblack…
I use a nook. meh.
Have been so close to snagging one of these Paperwhites.
Supposedly a good choice due to legibility and battery life for a document (legal, howto, etc…) repository for a bug out bag.
Thanks to @arielleslie above for the concise review and pointing out the waterproof feature of the 8th gen. Hmm, to save $20 or not…
@RedOak “bug out bag?” Make sure to download all the books you want to read in the future, since after the event (whatever the form of the destructor takes), there probably won’t be servers to download from. Given that, you might want one of the newer ones with more storage (this has 4GB, but you can still hold a lot of books in that much).
Actually your idea kind-of makes sense and I hadn’t thought of it (whether it’s just a minor nuclear conflict, of just a series of earthquakes – when could that ever happen?)
BTW even a small solar charger with USB 5V output could easily charge this so you’d have essentially infinite life. (well, till the zombies come…)
@pmarin that’s the point of storing the content on a free-standing device - can’t count on Internet infrastructure.
BTW, I’m not one of those hard core bug out people. An emergency might be short term and very temporary.
@RedOak I was considering making an emergency book pack made of good howtos and plant identifications and things like that. Survival, construction, engineering, from scratch, like all the information you’d want and wouldn’t be able to remember if you were accidentally transported to a pre-medieval society.
But then I discovered it’s actually really hard to find that kind of information. Like if you try to find how to make glass, to pick something that should be relatively easy, you get a bunch of “sand and a lot of heat” but then you have to find out how to make a furnace that produces sufficient heat using primitive materials, which is a surprisingly difficult thing to find. And if I could find the answer to that, I’m confident that answer would only lead to further tricky prerequisites!
@ravenblack haha, glass might not be high on my survival list.
ER treatment methods would be.
And lay person medical diagnostic info.
That stuff is not difficult to find.
Really, for me it is more of a fun mental exercise and challenge than a reality.
That 1 year warranty is good, same as new, and if it’s Amazon refurbished, in my experience, it is in virtually brand new condition.
@RedOak That is a good point, makes me wonder if these are “used” at all, or just old stock that Amazon is clearing out. It’s happened before that something sold as “refurb” is actually just excess stock of a previous model that never left the warehouse shelves.
@pmarin @RedOak just got mine today, I would say there’s no way this one is new. Scratches on the case and the screen.
I use my phone. With various ereaders, nook, & kindle. My son was doing it & I thought he was nuts until I tried it
I like it. & I always have the book I am currently reading with me. My productivity at work has suffered slightly though.
I ordered one but no shipping notification yet…
@ryanruppe Estimated delivery July 22-29 (see the top of this page)
@sammydog01 I didn’t see that. Thanks!!
@ryanruppe mine is still processing as well. I was worried, especially after getting my IRK so quickly, but I guess now that they aren’t doing the two week or longer shipping they can send it out a lot closer to the estimated received date.
Ok, this may be a long shot: has anyone not received their Kindle yet, and is NOT interested in jailbreaking it?
Mine arrived, and I stupidly set it up and connected to WiFi. It then, without prompting from me, updated itself to the newest firmware. Now the only way to jailbreak is if I do a hardware mod I do not trust myself with!
Would someone who has not set theirs up yet be willing to swap with me? I’ll pay for shipping both ways, plus at least $10 (and open for negotiation)! I can also provide any, uh, totally legit ebooks you request.
Just received mine. Looks like it went through a wood chipper. Missing chunks of plastic and scratched up. Maybe chewed by an animal? This is not refurbished quality.
@rherzek same here, there is absolutely no way this has been refurbished and I am not going to accept the condition it’s in
Ok folks. There are two times companies use the word ‘refurbished.’ One is the Apple-esque ‘someone touched this once outside of China so we cleaned, inspected, and reboxed it,’ where you can’t tell the difference between it and new unless you get out gloves and a magnifying glass.
The other is when they think ‘used’ would force them to make it cheaper.
This is the second one. Scratched screen, scratched case, dead flat battery. The word is ‘used.’
@kizen99 except it says refurbished, which in no way implies the condition the one I received. “Used” is even generous for how bad the one I got is. It’s being taken care of, but if you don’t mean like-new refurbished then it needs to be made very clear that is the case.