I haven’t lost my keys in years and don’t use them enough to justify another tile device, but I want this. It’s poking some weird, gadget addiction I did not know I had.
@aleohansen I bought two Pros last time. The tracking has already come in handy, and Tile just updated their app to make it quite a bit more user-friendly.
My only gripe with the design is that, if you’ve actually got something bulky like one of those newfangled electronic car keys attached to the bottle opener/keychain loop, it gets in the way of the key next to it. That makes it hard to extend the adjacent key fully, so you end up inserting the key and twisting at more like a 90° angle. But the integrated light comes in handy, and I don’t have the pocketed keys jabbing my leg anymore when I’m cycling.
i got one before, and was, like “meh . . .”. but after month or so of daily use, the “meh” turned to “WOW!”. the screw at each end holding the keys somehow adjusted itself to JUST the right tension, so i can now open the right key with ONE HAND, which, admittedly, is kinda slick. i’ve become so happy with mine that i bought three more! they somehow get better with more use.
@blaineg I thought everyone did that anyway. I have my big car fob key and three others on my small key ring. I can feel which side the car key is facing and know where all the others are.
Y’all know what? I’ve had one for years and I dig it. It keeps my keys less…jingly…and I like that. So get one it if you want to keep things tidy and shit, i don’t know, less…candy corn-ish? That feels like the right adjective.
If there was one of these that could be programmed to replace remote fobs, that would be a winner. I use duplicate/ non-electronic/ valet keys for my vehicles to avoid having fobs in my pocket, as they just end up getting pushed and draining the battery. The kids just have to wait for dad to unlock the door like it’s 1982.
Beyond two potentially bulky vehicle keys, I only routinely carry one more. This is an electronic age: one key card can open many doors.
@earmstrong ive literally owned fobs for 10+ years and enever even heard of a battery draining from being in your pocket. especially since fobs dont continuously send a signal. os if you hold down a button it only transmits once.
@Hexxman007
Are you a woman, despite your alias? Or do you, perchance, wear naught but Hammer pants?
They do if:
A) they are stored in typical jeans/ pants pocket and you engage in outrageous activities like "sitting."
C) Add in in pocket change, and you are asking for it.
The separate fobs, with their bigger buttons, are easier to unintentionally depress than those that are integrated into the key.
It’s much less of an issue with roomier storage, as in a coat pocket or a purse.
@neko You won’t. I’m 53 years old and this is the best key “ring” holder I’ve ever owned. I love mine. I just ordered two Pro models (with Tile) because they were sold out when I ordered my first one. Giving one Pro to my father-in-law, keeping one, and giving the original to my 16-year-old son.
My BF bought me a Tile for my birthday last year, and I was like “Meh.” And never used it. I didn’t really get what it did until I read the description of this one! I thought it only helped find my keys, the reciprocal ability to find my phone is awesome.
I’ll be setting it up in the morning. An amazing Duh moment.
@therealjrn Plastic is cheap. It’s the building/managing/maintaining the printer that’s expensive. If @ELUNO can get me the .STL files I’ll print one out and provide feedback.
I guessed on the length of the 3M bolt, since it depends on how many keys you want to fit into this thing. Also, washers you can’t just buy 3, you have to buy them in larger quantity packs for a couple bucks. Price also ignores shipping costs.
I’ve started printing one in green since that’s what I had in the free printer. Assuming the print doesn’t fail, I’ll report back this evening with assembly and feedback.
@ELUNO@therealjrn Sorry for not following up… I have it printed out and assembled (used 3Mx20 screws and just regular 3M nuts because my 3M nylock nut supply is getting low), but… Other than 1 house key, I don’t have any normal keys… I’ve tried to convince my wife to let me use her work keys, but she’s resistant and I’m not sure why.
@Kidsandliz nope…fully trained in it’s operation…I take the responsibility to heart…and i don’t keep a round in the pipe. The Pico has a LONG double action trigger.
8 keys packed into the KeySmart Extended (longer body)
I did some initial fiddling with key location and spacer washers to get everything to fit and stay, and now it does.
View from the other edge.
My most used keys (house and work) are on the outer edges of the stacks, and on opposite ends, so I can get them purely by touch. Just catch the key head with thumb or nail, rotate it out, and it couldn’t be any easier.
The lesser used keys are in the middle somewhere. When I need them, it’s ok to fish for them a bit.
The dangling car key is to my wife’s car, and the little dangler is a recent addition. I may de-plastic the head and work it into the Keysmart body someday.
My other key is simply the Camaro with a NiteCore Tube rechargable flashlight. Bright little thing (or dim, two settings). They’re separate from the KeySmart because I don’t like a lot of crap dangling from the ignition switch.
So that’s one guy’s approach. It works great for me, and it’s the best setup I’ve found over many years of trying different things.
I bought an aluminum one without the extension posts four months ago for ten bucks. I put two door keys and three padlock keys on it. I could get rid of one of the padlock keys if I could figure out which one (one of the locks is in another city).
I can’t say it’s changed my life, but it hasn’t annoyed me enough to take the keys out. The screws haven’t come loose, and I can rotate the door keys out with one hand.
And it’s occasionally a conversation piece.
Last time I ordered some plastic ones as gifts, but I didn’t get them, even though the post office said it delivered the package.
@Thumperchick I did not. USPS shows it delivered. I guess it could have been picked up by someone, but it would be the first package in four years, and I get a lot of packages.
Does the tile quickly become obsolete, unsupported by its dark overlords, forcing one to replace it? All of mine did that until I got a decent off brand through Meh.
@hafner I am not talking about battery life. I have two of these buggers that work just fine, but for the fact that the manufacturer stopped supporting them as a gambit to get me to replace them. It worked, once. No doubt this one will hold a charge for years, but I predict 12 months tops before it’s useless.
I am not complaining, but I ordered the cheap ones as 2 packs (really great deal at $4 a pop), but now they are in my history as extension packs (still a good deal at $8, but not as great). Did anyone else notice the switch here?
@elberto I just received mine and only 1 keysmart with an extension pack. My email still says 1 BLACK ALUMINUM 2-PACK @ $8 so I’m going to make sure I get both since thats what I ordered. I’ll update once we get it settled.
@watchmen I’m in the same boat. this is the entire text of the email I received from Tyler:
“Sorry for the delayed response, but there was an error on the page from a past sale for about 45 minutes. We fixed it, buuuut, some people still bought when it said 2-pack.“
@squirrelsuit I asked for half a refund since I only got a half the product and they ended up giving me a full refund. I was perfectly fine with a half refund but they ended up giving me a full.
@watchmen So they gave you a full refund when you only asked for half. I understand half a refund would have been fine but they gave you a full one. Nice!
OK-- So these are pretty neat-- I’m glad meh is offering the correct ones now with the expansion pieces, instead of shorting us and telling us “oh, you can get the extension screws from keysmart, blah, blah”
Some keys (even plain metal ones) are thicker than others, like Schlage keys are actually about 30% wider than Kwikset, so the # of keys may vary
It’s good that there’s a keyring for attaching ones keyfob. When I assembled my keysmart back in about August, I didn’t put my car key fob on it, so guess what happened, I lost my keysmart and I blame @2many2no for that
That said, when I woke up in the middle of the night (baby requested diaper service) and saw the keysmart for sale, I remembered that I’ve been missing ~6 of my keys on that damn keysmart that got away from me. So, I decided to dial it up a notch and get one with the tile on it, and bought a second for some lucky family member that also tends to lose keys.
Now, Losing a little bit of sleep thinking of the keys I lost back in August, I started reminiscing when/where I had last seen them(thus reinforcing my latest purchase, with, hopefully this shouldn’t happen again)
Still losing sleep over this, I did a little bit of fumbling around in stuff from my last inter-state trip, (Made easier with the help of my obnoxiously bright “MAX Safety Security Light”) and suddenly I found my lost keysmart in a bag of crap that I usually take with me on trips(to which my wife refers to as my man-purse), so I unblame @therealjrn for helping me find the keys that I lost in August because of @2many2no
@2many2no It’s your fault that I lost my keys back in August, but @therealjrn is now unblamed for helping me find them last night… Regardless, with a Pro- keysmart, misplacing my keys should be a thing of the past!
In all honesty what good are these? My house unlocks with a keypad on the deadbolt or my phone, my car requires a fat fob, my office opens with my ID being swiped. My current keychain is my fob, 4 keys that went to my old house (throwing those out now) a key chain with my employers logo and the ship these back if you find it address. Otherwise I have no keys I need to consolidate. As for the few pad locks I have, they all require a combination and a key, I honestly have no clue where the keys are.
Now Meh, what I could use is a wallet with a tile locator built in, my wife takes my cards and money and never has the common courtesy to return it to where she found it. Every morning I hunt for the wallet, please fix my marriage woes Meh.
I know it’s tough, but consider that other people may not have electronic locks everywhere and may still use keys. Now consider, and I know this will be difficult, that products may be useful to other people even if they aren’t to you.
@craigthom Hold on there buckaroo. Are you saying that I should think about other people and not be a selfish a-hole? That is a strange notion. If we can put our country first why can’t I MBMGA?
So to anyone that I offended by my comment questioning the usefulness of these please accept my sincerest sorry, not sorry.
@bleedmichigan Yeah, that shit pisses me off. Wife will steal a card to order pizza online or something. (because my wallet is always found in the same place unlike her purse which could be in the car, on the kitchen counter, on the chair, on the kitchen table, etc…) I’ll be paying for something at a store, open my wallet, and see my card is missing. The initial reaction is panic that I lost it somewhere. Luckily, I carry other forms of payment so I don’t have to ditch my items and run.
Got 3 tile ones and so far they have saved a ton of time for keys being misplaced in bags and vice versa for phones. If you have someone to leaves things and forgets it’s worth the cost. And rechargable!!
Specs
What’s in the Box?
1x Aluminum Keysmart
1x Loop Piece
1x Expansion pack
or
1x Pro Keysmart
1x Micro USB cable
Pictures
Price Comparison
Aluminum: $19.98 at Amazon
Pro: $59.99 at Amazon
Warranty
90 day Mediocre
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Nov 11 - Tuesday, Nov 15
@blaineg shares their EEC, with photos!
Jesus! Again?!?!?!
PLEEESE - NOT THESE AGAIN!!!
NO ONE WANTS THESE THINGS!!!
Not even for Secret Santa or stockings!
@mcemanuel only thing that was even slightly interesting to me in months and it sold out in less than 2 hours.
@devolve Well you can buy one now as they are not sold out.
@devolve $15 over on Amazon, I paid $20 for mine about 1.5 years ago.
I haven’t lost my keys in years and don’t use them enough to justify another tile device, but I want this. It’s poking some weird, gadget addiction I did not know I had.
@Thumperchick Mine is Tile-free, and it’s great.
I bought one before, they’re not bad. But I mean come on, how many times do you have to sell these.
@MarilynOnMars you know those jokes that are so overtold, they eventually become funny again? It’s like that.
@MarilynOnMars Until they’ve sold all the ones they bought.
I have the regular aluminum version now and after having misplaced it a couple times I’m in for the Pro.
Who bought these last time? Any good? Pro?
@aleohansen I bought two Pros last time. The tracking has already come in handy, and Tile just updated their app to make it quite a bit more user-friendly.
My only gripe with the design is that, if you’ve actually got something bulky like one of those newfangled electronic car keys attached to the bottle opener/keychain loop, it gets in the way of the key next to it. That makes it hard to extend the adjacent key fully, so you end up inserting the key and twisting at more like a 90° angle. But the integrated light comes in handy, and I don’t have the pocketed keys jabbing my leg anymore when I’m cycling.
@mcemanuel RUPRICK, Leave the cork on the fork!
@mcemanuel
How do you remember which key goes to what without all the different keychains?
@mtb002 location location location
@mtb002 multiple key holders of course
@uninflammable that will only justify the need for a keysmart keysmart (pro) to hold all of your keysmarts.
@mtb002 cut some keys that are different colors
I’m going to bring back candy corn, you all complaining about “these again”
@dave /buy 3
@dave Candy Corn? Shoot me while i’m ahead JK
@Dave I’m saying combo pack. Call it Keys and Corn.
i got one before, and was, like “meh . . .”. but after month or so of daily use, the “meh” turned to “WOW!”. the screw at each end holding the keys somehow adjusted itself to JUST the right tension, so i can now open the right key with ONE HAND, which, admittedly, is kinda slick. i’ve become so happy with mine that i bought three more! they somehow get better with more use.
@docflash yes the rest of us have to use two hands to turn a key…
@docflash Yep, grab it out of my pocket, flick open the key I want by touch, and open the door without ever having to LOOK at the silly keys.
@blaineg I thought everyone did that anyway. I have my big car fob key and three others on my small key ring. I can feel which side the car key is facing and know where all the others are.
Y’all know what? I’ve had one for years and I dig it. It keeps my keys less…jingly…and I like that. So get one it if you want to keep things tidy and shit, i don’t know, less…candy corn-ish? That feels like the right adjective.
I got the pro with tile last time around. I haven’t had to use the tile yet but the flashlight is kinda handy. Overall I do like Keysmart.
Helpful posts in this thread. I know it’s been up before, but like someone else, I’m getting an itchy ‘buy’ finger.
I bought one of these at Ollie’s and realized that in this day & age, all my keys are far too big for this thing. And I only spent $3 for it there.
Plus, “aircraft aluminum” is just a buzzword that means it’s one of three alloys and is lightweight. But so is soda can aluminum and aluminum foil.
@aristan and they can all be mashed and disfigured quite easily
@aristan Was it this brand or a Chinese knockoff?
@craigthom it was the brand. Ollie’s is a place that does close outs, so they likely bought them off a store going out of business.
How do you put the keys into the apparatus? I have some wide keys. Do you have to file them down or something?
@Bukaroo It comes apart, you put the keys in and then put it back togeather.
Some people have said larger/longer keys won’t fit and keys that have those rubber gribs on the top part won’t fit inside either
If there was one of these that could be programmed to replace remote fobs, that would be a winner. I use duplicate/ non-electronic/ valet keys for my vehicles to avoid having fobs in my pocket, as they just end up getting pushed and draining the battery. The kids just have to wait for dad to unlock the door like it’s 1982.
Beyond two potentially bulky vehicle keys, I only routinely carry one more. This is an electronic age: one key card can open many doors.
Pass.
@earmstrong ive literally owned fobs for 10+ years and enever even heard of a battery draining from being in your pocket. especially since fobs dont continuously send a signal. os if you hold down a button it only transmits once.
@earmstrong Stop wearing skinny jeans.
@Hexxman007
you engage in outrageous activities like "sitting."
Are you a woman, despite your alias? Or do you, perchance, wear naught but Hammer pants?
They do if:
A) they are stored in typical jeans/ pants pocket and
C) Add in in pocket change, and you are asking for it.
The separate fobs, with their bigger buttons, are easier to unintentionally depress than those that are integrated into the key.
It’s much less of an issue with roomier storage, as in a coat pocket or a purse.
@cinoclav
Reasonable advice to all.
These would be awesome if it were 1980 when I actually had a bunch of keys. A decade or more too late.
@katbyter Everything’s already unlocked in 2017?
@obxer I have two car keys that are fobs and can’t fit in this. My house has keypads, so no keys. No work keys either – badge access.
It says it comes with an expansion pack. Is that the loop ring or something else?
@Laypin The expansion pushes them a little further apart so you can fit a couple more keys in.
@dave In other words, little M-F studs that lengthen the screw that goes through the key heads. Longer screws = more keys.
@blaineg LIke so:
These things are going to become the next Camping Gear & Candy Corn
I’ve actually been wanting one of these, and this is a better price than massdrop.
I hope I don’t regret it.
@neko My keys don’t poke at me anymore since I fold them neatly into my Keysmart.
@neko You won’t. I’m 53 years old and this is the best key “ring” holder I’ve ever owned. I love mine. I just ordered two Pro models (with Tile) because they were sold out when I ordered my first one. Giving one Pro to my father-in-law, keeping one, and giving the original to my 16-year-old son.
My BF bought me a Tile for my birthday last year, and I was like “Meh.” And never used it. I didn’t really get what it did until I read the description of this one! I thought it only helped find my keys, the reciprocal ability to find my phone is awesome.
I’ll be setting it up in the morning. An amazing Duh moment.
You can make your own if you own a 3D printer.
The Tile one looks useful, but highly overpriced.
@ELUNO How much does the material cost to make one on a 3D printer?
@therealjrn i am not sure to be honest, but most likely cheaper than this. You would need to supply your own screws tho.
@ELUNO and you can walk on the moon if you own a space company.
@devolve lol no. You also have to be physically and mentally fit enough to do so.
@therealjrn Plastic is cheap. It’s the building/managing/maintaining the printer that’s expensive. If @ELUNO can get me the .STL files I’ll print one out and provide feedback.
@Bogie There are many versions you can find online. Here are some:
http://www.yeggi.com/q/key+holder/?s=tt
@Bogie https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:92847
@ELUNO I’ll print out the swiss army one since it’s a straight forward print. @therealjrn - You’re looking at 11.5g of plastic (~$0.53) + 3 x 3Mx16 (??) (~$0.72), 3 x M3 Nylock nuts ($0.12), M3 washers ($~0.10). So you’re looking at ~$1.50
I guessed on the length of the 3M bolt, since it depends on how many keys you want to fit into this thing. Also, washers you can’t just buy 3, you have to buy them in larger quantity packs for a couple bucks. Price also ignores shipping costs.
I’ve started printing one in green since that’s what I had in the free printer. Assuming the print doesn’t fail, I’ll report back this evening with assembly and feedback.
@ELUNO @therealjrn Sorry for not following up… I have it printed out and assembled (used 3Mx20 screws and just regular 3M nuts because my 3M nylock nut supply is getting low), but… Other than 1 house key, I don’t have any normal keys… I’ve tried to convince my wife to let me use her work keys, but she’s resistant and I’m not sure why.
@Bogie lol. I almost got a printer yesterday, but really couldn’t pull the trigger…
This would have been my first print, but oh well. Maybe next time!
I wanted two - and have actually been looking for them - but everything but the Pro are sold out…
DO DO
NOT NOT
NEED WANT
there’s only TWO rigid things I ever want in my pocket…one of them is this…
@fastharry You will be single for the rest of your life.
@devolve but safe.
@Hexxman007 unless it goes off by accident.
@devolve nope…married a hot blond attorney 3 months ago…
@Kidsandliz nope…fully trained in it’s operation…I take the responsibility to heart…and i don’t keep a round in the pipe. The Pico has a LONG double action trigger.
@Hexxman007 thats right…
So here’s mine in use, after 1.5 years:
8 keys packed into the KeySmart Extended (longer body)
I did some initial fiddling with key location and spacer washers to get everything to fit and stay, and now it does.
View from the other edge.
My most used keys (house and work) are on the outer edges of the stacks, and on opposite ends, so I can get them purely by touch. Just catch the key head with thumb or nail, rotate it out, and it couldn’t be any easier.
The lesser used keys are in the middle somewhere. When I need them, it’s ok to fish for them a bit.
The dangling car key is to my wife’s car, and the little dangler is a recent addition. I may de-plastic the head and work it into the Keysmart body someday.
My other key is simply the Camaro with a NiteCore Tube rechargable flashlight. Bright little thing (or dim, two settings). They’re separate from the KeySmart because I don’t like a lot of crap dangling from the ignition switch.
So that’s one guy’s approach. It works great for me, and it’s the best setup I’ve found over many years of trying different things.
I bought an aluminum one without the extension posts four months ago for ten bucks. I put two door keys and three padlock keys on it. I could get rid of one of the padlock keys if I could figure out which one (one of the locks is in another city).
I can’t say it’s changed my life, but it hasn’t annoyed me enough to take the keys out. The screws haven’t come loose, and I can rotate the door keys out with one hand.
And it’s occasionally a conversation piece.
Last time I ordered some plastic ones as gifts, but I didn’t get them, even though the post office said it delivered the package.
@craigthom did you write in to CS about that?
@Thumperchick I did not. USPS shows it delivered. I guess it could have been picked up by someone, but it would be the first package in four years, and I get a lot of packages.
It wasn’t a lot of money.
@craigthom Okay…
@craigthom For future reference, USPS geo-tracks every trackable delivery. Sometimes things get delivered to the wrong address.
Does the tile quickly become obsolete, unsupported by its dark overlords, forcing one to replace it? All of mine did that until I got a decent off brand through Meh.
@tpward this one the only Tile product that is rechargable (AFAIK). So far so good, I do wonder how many recharges before end of life though.
@hafner I am not talking about battery life. I have two of these buggers that work just fine, but for the fact that the manufacturer stopped supporting them as a gambit to get me to replace them. It worked, once. No doubt this one will hold a charge for years, but I predict 12 months tops before it’s useless.
@tpward It’s bluetooth 4.2 and with Bluetooth 5 out I’m sure they will drop support for these at some point.
Damn, all the cheapy ones are sold out. C’mon Meh, keep the stocking stuffers coming!
I am not complaining, but I ordered the cheap ones as 2 packs (really great deal at $4 a pop), but now they are in my history as extension packs (still a good deal at $8, but not as great). Did anyone else notice the switch here?
@elberto I just received mine and only 1 keysmart with an extension pack. My email still says 1 BLACK ALUMINUM 2-PACK @ $8 so I’m going to make sure I get both since thats what I ordered. I’ll update once we get it settled.
@watchmen I’m in the same boat. this is the entire text of the email I received from Tyler:
“Sorry for the delayed response, but there was an error on the page from a past sale for about 45 minutes. We fixed it, buuuut, some people still bought when it said 2-pack.“
@squirrelsuit I asked for half a refund since I only got a half the product and they ended up giving me a full refund. I was perfectly fine with a half refund but they ended up giving me a full.
@watchmen So they gave you a full refund when you only asked for half. I understand half a refund would have been fine but they gave you a full one. Nice!
i finally decide to buy a meh and it’s sold out…
OK-- So these are pretty neat-- I’m glad meh is offering the correct ones now with the expansion pieces, instead of shorting us and telling us “oh, you can get the extension screws from keysmart, blah, blah”
@caffeineguy
@therealjrn What month is this?
I’m pretty sure I’m not the one that’s confused.
@2many2no It’s your fault that I lost my keys back in August, but @therealjrn is now unblamed for helping me find them last night… Regardless, with a Pro- keysmart, misplacing my keys should be a thing of the past!
@caffeineguy
one side should be a swiss knife or at least a screwdriver
/giphy swiss knife
@username I kinda prefer the certainty that I’m not going to find a blade while fishing for my keys.
@username Though it looks like your wish has been granted:
https://getkeysmart.com/products/folding-knife
@blaineg Nnnnnnnggggg no.
I have a key-shaped screwdriver thing on my key ring already, so I’ve got that part covered.
Not putting a stabby thing in my pocket, though.
Will any of the sold out non-pro units be available at 4pm for us legacy VMPs?
In all honesty what good are these? My house unlocks with a keypad on the deadbolt or my phone, my car requires a fat fob, my office opens with my ID being swiped. My current keychain is my fob, 4 keys that went to my old house (throwing those out now) a key chain with my employers logo and the ship these back if you find it address. Otherwise I have no keys I need to consolidate. As for the few pad locks I have, they all require a combination and a key, I honestly have no clue where the keys are.
Now Meh, what I could use is a wallet with a tile locator built in, my wife takes my cards and money and never has the common courtesy to return it to where she found it. Every morning I hunt for the wallet, please fix my marriage woes Meh.
@bleedmichigan What good are they?
I know it’s tough, but consider that other people may not have electronic locks everywhere and may still use keys. Now consider, and I know this will be difficult, that products may be useful to other people even if they aren’t to you.
@craigthom Hold on there buckaroo. Are you saying that I should think about other people and not be a selfish a-hole? That is a strange notion. If we can put our country first why can’t I MBMGA?
So to anyone that I offended by my comment questioning the usefulness of these please accept my sincerest sorry, not sorry.
@bleedmichigan Yeah, that shit pisses me off. Wife will steal a card to order pizza online or something. (because my wallet is always found in the same place unlike her purse which could be in the car, on the kitchen counter, on the chair, on the kitchen table, etc…) I’ll be paying for something at a store, open my wallet, and see my card is missing. The initial reaction is panic that I lost it somewhere. Luckily, I carry other forms of payment so I don’t have to ditch my items and run.
It’s an impulse purchase. A $34 one, but still. We’ll see if it proves useful.
Got 3 tile ones and so far they have saved a ton of time for keys being misplaced in bags and vice versa for phones. If you have someone to leaves things and forgets it’s worth the cost. And rechargable!!