@RiotDemon@sammydog01 Back home (western Montana) water is awesome, and I will happily drink tap water all goddamned day. Some Colorado tap water also tastes good to me.
Actually plain actual water is awesome—distilled or otherwise purified.
In most cases the “water” we drink comes per-infused with at least minerals, but it might also include a variety flora, bacteria, chlorine, industrial byproducts and residential effluent and all kinds of other shit. Not always actual shit, but it’s worth noting that even in the most pristine environments (I’ve hiked in mountains where there aren’t a lot of people), there is gonna be a little bit of shit in streams and springs, not to mention pools and lakes where the shit (literal or otherwise) just kind of accumulates and breeds other (not literal) shit.
I don’t care for the shit. Nor do I care for some of the chemicals that treat the shit. Nor in fact am I fond of every naturally-occurring mineral cocktail. I fucking hate expensive spring water. It tastes like shit to me; really it tastes like nasty minerals, but the taste is metaphorically shitty. It’s shitty and it’s expensive. What the actual fuck? There are places where there’s a shit ton of lime in the water. I hate that, along with many other naturally-occurring mineral combinations.
I like the minerals in most western Montana ground water and other minimally treated water. I like most of the not spring waters purified and minimally treated to enhance taste (Dasani and Deja Blue are probably my favorites; Nestle tastes good but they’re evil).
I don’t think I’ve ever tasted water from a Texas tap that didn’t make me gag, want to kill someone and doubt the long term viability of the planet and the human species.
Plain water is awesome (as are some variants). A lot of what we call “water” isn’t.
@joelmw@RiotDemon@sammydog01 Bottled water tastes like plastic to me. We keep two jugs of filtered water in the fridge at all times. It taste better after it sits for a while and is always cold.
Growing up in New Orleans, I’m rather fond of the taste of the local tap. Doesn’t stink of sulphur like the other Gulf Coast cities from Galveston to Tampa, or leave soap in your hair that cannot be rinsed out.
I appreciate the generosity of our upstream neighbors in dumping all those vitamins and minerals into our Mississippi River sourced tap water.
@callow@joelmw@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I don’t understand the general desire for cold water. I’ll take room-temperature, or even warm water any day.
And yes, pre-emptively, even if it’s a hundred degrees outside and I have been doing manual labor.
@callow@joelmw@Limewater@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I prefer my water to be ICY; I freeze a couple of inches into a tall sturdy glass and pour my water in on top; it stays cold longer than with ice cubes. A lot of restaurants now serve room-temperature water - so European - but I just ask for a tall glass of ice in that case.
@callow@joelmw@Kyeh@RiotDemon@sammydog01
Cold just makes it painful to drink in quantity. Ice water if alright if I’m going to be taking tiny sips, but I have no desire to do that.
I don’t eat at restaurants right now, but it seems to me that they are always way, way too cold in general. Trying to drink ice water on top of that just makes it worse.
@callow@joelmw@Kyeh@Limewater@RiotDemon@sammydog01 IMO water is best somewhere between chilled and room temperature. Just cool enough to feel good going down, but not cold enough that it hurts my sensitive teeth and chills my entire mouth and throat!
@joelmw@Kyeh@Limewater@PooltoyWolf@RiotDemon@sammydog01 You guys got me wondering if it’s true that tepid water is more easily absorbed, as I was told years ago. Bottom line: In the case of water temperature, preference wins; whichever temperature encourages us to drink more water is the one we should choose.
I prefer to start with cold water, no ice.
And read up on third-world marketing of baby formula as being superior to breast milk for infants; child labor practices; anti-union practices; attempts to take control of aquifers and to deny trad water rights to locals; pro-Putin policies in Ukraine; pollution; deforestation; money laundering and bribery; dictator-friendly policies; and so much more.
@callow@joelmw@Kyeh@Limewater@PooltoyWolf@RiotDemon@sammydog01 on absorbing water, temperature isn’t going to matter. It’s all going to be body temperature in minutes, and it all has to be absorbed through the intestines and into the bloodstream, before it can be removed from the kidneys. Unabsorbed water would end up being diarrhea, which doesn’t result from drinking cold water.
@callow@joelmw@Kyeh@Limewater@RiotDemon@sammydog01 The body supposedly has trouble processing ice-cold water, which is why you’re not supposed to drink it right after performing strenuous activities, such as exercising or sports.
On an ironic note, mom and I ate dinner at Chuy’s tonight, and they were out of lemons for our water…so we had literal @Limewater. Heh heh.
I wouldn’t argue that ice water is objectively better, but I like mine that way. However I can appreciate it at any temperature even approaching hot, depending on context. Room temperature is sometimes better than ice cold, for reasons you effectively elaborated, @Limewater. And if I could keep the water just chilled, I might generally prefer it as you described, @PooltoyWolf.
Truth be told, there isn’t just one kind of ice water, just as there isn’t only one kind of ice. And it affects not just the texture and mouthfeel, but temperature (and especially temperature consistency and sustainability). I put water bottles in the freezer, which even in itself produces at least three kinds of ice water (obviously with numerous in-betweens):
slush–best achieved by grabbing the bottle while the water is super chilled but still unfrozen, at which point it crystalizes. Bonus that it’s cool to watch. Yay, science! In fact, the texture of the slush can itself vary dramatically.
one solid chunk of ice in the middle with water surrounding. To be clear, this requires freezing and thawing. Best option when you desire sustained cold temperature. And in fact, if we’re going to be out, we put completely frozen water bottles in an insulated bag with other other bottles variously unfrozen–also works to keep other things chilled that should be.
crushed ice. Achieved by pulling the water out when it’s partly frozen and squeezing the bottle so that ice turns into shards
Not to mention the ice water you get with a warm freezer or cold refrigerator.
I probably enjoy the process and the variations as much as I like that my water is cold. It’s a simple science project. I’m surprisingly easily amused.
Sonic ice is nice. But I generally prefer the larger cubes (if not just one huge cube or sphere) and usually a consistent size.
@PooltoyWolf@sammydog01 I grew up just outside of Detroit. To me, Belle Isle will always be a kinda sketchy island in the Detroit River. Lots of parks, lots of beer cans and other trash of questionable origin leftover from weekend evening “cruising”, a now defunct zoo (that was sad when it was open) and, once a year, a big Indy car race.
@gt0163c@PooltoyWolf This Belle Isle is a tiny island. They used to have festivals there. Maybe again someday. You could maybe live there in a tent but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s sketchy too.
@gt0163c@PooltoyWolf@sammydog01
Belle Isle, hmmm, that actually sounds kind of yummy. I may have to see about adding lavender to my limoncello when I make it next time.
@gt0163c@sammydog01 No guest room, but there is a fully equipped elevated clubhouse in the backyard, complete with A/C, heat, carpet, a cot, TV and stereo.
Plain water is awesome!
VAN GOGH! MANGO! TANGO! AWESOME!
@RiotDemon
@RiotDemon @sammydog01 Back home (western Montana) water is awesome, and I will happily drink tap water all goddamned day. Some Colorado tap water also tastes good to me.
Actually plain actual water is awesome—distilled or otherwise purified.
In most cases the “water” we drink comes per-infused with at least minerals, but it might also include a variety flora, bacteria, chlorine, industrial byproducts and residential effluent and all kinds of other shit. Not always actual shit, but it’s worth noting that even in the most pristine environments (I’ve hiked in mountains where there aren’t a lot of people), there is gonna be a little bit of shit in streams and springs, not to mention pools and lakes where the shit (literal or otherwise) just kind of accumulates and breeds other (not literal) shit.
I don’t care for the shit. Nor do I care for some of the chemicals that treat the shit. Nor in fact am I fond of every naturally-occurring mineral cocktail. I fucking hate expensive spring water. It tastes like shit to me; really it tastes like nasty minerals, but the taste is metaphorically shitty. It’s shitty and it’s expensive. What the actual fuck? There are places where there’s a shit ton of lime in the water. I hate that, along with many other naturally-occurring mineral combinations.
I like the minerals in most western Montana ground water and other minimally treated water. I like most of the not spring waters purified and minimally treated to enhance taste (Dasani and Deja Blue are probably my favorites; Nestle tastes good but they’re evil).
I don’t think I’ve ever tasted water from a Texas tap that didn’t make me gag, want to kill someone and doubt the long term viability of the planet and the human species.
Plain water is awesome (as are some variants). A lot of what we call “water” isn’t.
PANS! GLANDS! CRAYONS! AWESOME!
@joelmw @RiotDemon @sammydog01 Bottled water tastes like plastic to me. We keep two jugs of filtered water in the fridge at all times. It taste better after it sits for a while and is always cold.
@callow @joelmw @RiotDemon @sammydog01
Dasani is owned by Coke, btw.
Growing up in New Orleans, I’m rather fond of the taste of the local tap. Doesn’t stink of sulphur like the other Gulf Coast cities from Galveston to Tampa, or leave soap in your hair that cannot be rinsed out.
I appreciate the generosity of our upstream neighbors in dumping all those vitamins and minerals into our Mississippi River sourced tap water.
@callow @joelmw @RiotDemon @sammydog01 I don’t understand the general desire for cold water. I’ll take room-temperature, or even warm water any day.
And yes, pre-emptively, even if it’s a hundred degrees outside and I have been doing manual labor.
@joelmw @Limewater @RiotDemon @sammydog01 Cold is refreshing. It becomes room temperature quick enough though.
@callow @joelmw @Limewater @RiotDemon @sammydog01 I prefer my water to be ICY; I freeze a couple of inches into a tall sturdy glass and pour my water in on top; it stays cold longer than with ice cubes. A lot of restaurants now serve room-temperature water - so European - but I just ask for a tall glass of ice in that case.
@callow @joelmw @Kyeh @RiotDemon @sammydog01
Cold just makes it painful to drink in quantity. Ice water if alright if I’m going to be taking tiny sips, but I have no desire to do that.
I don’t eat at restaurants right now, but it seems to me that they are always way, way too cold in general. Trying to drink ice water on top of that just makes it worse.
@callow @joelmw @Kyeh @Limewater @RiotDemon @sammydog01 IMO water is best somewhere between chilled and room temperature. Just cool enough to feel good going down, but not cold enough that it hurts my sensitive teeth and chills my entire mouth and throat!
@joelmw @Kyeh @Limewater @PooltoyWolf @RiotDemon @sammydog01 You guys got me wondering if it’s true that tepid water is more easily absorbed, as I was told years ago. Bottom line: In the case of water temperature, preference wins; whichever temperature encourages us to drink more water is the one we should choose.
I prefer to start with cold water, no ice.
@joelmw @RiotDemon @sammydog01 why is nestle evil?
@cristysue @joelmw @RiotDemon @sammydog01
See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestlé
Scroll down to the “controversies section”
(Or Google them)
And read up on third-world marketing of baby formula as being superior to breast milk for infants; child labor practices; anti-union practices; attempts to take control of aquifers and to deny trad water rights to locals; pro-Putin policies in Ukraine; pollution; deforestation; money laundering and bribery; dictator-friendly policies; and so much more.
@callow @joelmw @Kyeh @Limewater @PooltoyWolf @RiotDemon @sammydog01 on absorbing water, temperature isn’t going to matter. It’s all going to be body temperature in minutes, and it all has to be absorbed through the intestines and into the bloodstream, before it can be removed from the kidneys. Unabsorbed water would end up being diarrhea, which doesn’t result from drinking cold water.
@callow @joelmw @Kyeh @Limewater @RiotDemon @sammydog01 The body supposedly has trouble processing ice-cold water, which is why you’re not supposed to drink it right after performing strenuous activities, such as exercising or sports.
On an ironic note, mom and I ate dinner at Chuy’s tonight, and they were out of lemons for our water…so we had literal @Limewater. Heh heh.
@callow @joelmw @Kyeh @PooltoyWolf @RiotDemon @sammydog01 Hopefully they just gave you water with slices of lime and not a solution of calcium hydroxide.
@f00l @joelmw @RiotDemon @sammydog01 oh my!! Guess im giving up candy bars n hot chocolate!! Its all so disgusting!! Thank you.
@callow @joelmw @Kyeh @Limewater @RiotDemon @sammydog01 Yes, definitely the former lmao
@callow @Kyeh @RiotDemon @sammydog01
I wouldn’t argue that ice water is objectively better, but I like mine that way. However I can appreciate it at any temperature even approaching hot, depending on context. Room temperature is sometimes better than ice cold, for reasons you effectively elaborated, @Limewater. And if I could keep the water just chilled, I might generally prefer it as you described, @PooltoyWolf.
Truth be told, there isn’t just one kind of ice water, just as there isn’t only one kind of ice. And it affects not just the texture and mouthfeel, but temperature (and especially temperature consistency and sustainability). I put water bottles in the freezer, which even in itself produces at least three kinds of ice water (obviously with numerous in-betweens):
Not to mention the ice water you get with a warm freezer or cold refrigerator.
I probably enjoy the process and the variations as much as I like that my water is cold. It’s a simple science project. I’m surprisingly easily amused.
Sonic ice is nice. But I generally prefer the larger cubes (if not just one huge cube or sphere) and usually a consistent size.
I like sparkling water. With this in it.
@sammydog01 I live in Belle Isle!
@PooltoyWolf @sammydog01 I grew up just outside of Detroit. To me, Belle Isle will always be a kinda sketchy island in the Detroit River. Lots of parks, lots of beer cans and other trash of questionable origin leftover from weekend evening “cruising”, a now defunct zoo (that was sad when it was open) and, once a year, a big Indy car race.
@gt0163c @PooltoyWolf This Belle Isle is a tiny island. They used to have festivals there. Maybe again someday. You could maybe live there in a tent but I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s sketchy too.
@gt0163c @PooltoyWolf @sammydog01
Belle Isle, hmmm, that actually sounds kind of yummy. I may have to see about adding lavender to my limoncello when I make it next time.
@gt0163c @sammydog01 Clarification: I’m in Belle Isle, Florida.
@gt0163c @PooltoyWolf Sounds nice! Do you have a guest room? I’ll bring moonshine.
@gt0163c @sammydog01 No guest room, but there is a fully equipped elevated clubhouse in the backyard, complete with A/C, heat, carpet, a cot, TV and stereo.
@gt0163c @PooltoyWolf @sammydog01
That place sounds so nice i’d be willing to come live there in a tent.
/image “luxury tent”
I’m partial to the (unprovable) quote from W.C. Fields:
@chienfou Idunno, sounds kinky.