@narfcake
Got it. Everyone here “gets” the industry. Family members work in various parts of the legal and site-services sections.
The fracking industry must dispose of its hazardous waste products “safely”, so…
New earthquake zones! Nothing like yours tho.
Not wishing to go near politics - but in case I have implied otherwise, i will just mention that my own views on the politics and related issues are complex.
@f00l There’s some fracking going on here in California too, but not to the extent as it is in other states.
As for politics … it’s got to be at least as complex here too, as some areas lean extremely towards one side or another. Heck, even between some cities it’s evident. On a major street, passing through a city that’s a mix of residents and commercial, but not “business friendly”, it’s reasonably smooth. Down a few blocks, through a city that’s low in taxes and has a lot of commercial/industrial, the same street is pock-marked and about as smooth as a dirt and gravel.
@narfcake
Here, the city of Denton, TX voted to ban fracking and related industries. The state legislature, in its wisdom, decided Not To Allow That. Various legal challenges went in favor of the legislature. Of course no way $ was involved in that vote. Corruption? In Austin? No way it’s worse now than in the LBJ era, and that was squeaky-clean. Every votes their conscience. Fer sher.
And the massive environmental probs, water supply probs, health issues.
Otoh, some degree of financial growth, new industries, new tech, new income streams for people I know. And… with fracking, the US has enormous petrochemical reserves, as large as elsewhere in the world, within these borders. In certain imaginable circumstances, that’s a huge deal.
@SHS - I’m from California, I lived <5 miles from the Loma Prieta quake (and virtually on the San Andreas Fault). So scary, especially when they’re rare where you live and the building codes do not account for quake-proofing. It takes a while to get over the trauma, hope you’re handling it okay. My thoughts are with you.
We had a 5.8 one here, too. Woke me. It seemed to last forever! Aftershocks have been as large as 3.5. I hope you and yours are OK. I don’t know about the 5.8 ones, But I have noticed that when there is a really big earthquake then there will be another big one on the other side of the planet. Perhaps the earth’s crust must readjust.
I’m sorry. I’m here for you.
I just read that these are the strongest ever in S. Korea although they are calling them moderate strength. Hopefully the aftershocks will stop soon.
I thought the cause of these earthquakes was North Korea. What did I miss?
@melwin
Yeah. I thought the quakes were caused by N Korea doing nuclear testing?
@SHS, I hope things get better. Scary times right now.
Oh no…
I hope everyone back home is safe and sound.
Is it bad that I’m kind of jealous @SHS? I’m from California and miss the earthquakes. We don’t get all that many in Texas. None that I feel anyway.
@hollboll Were you in California in 94? That was my first. I don’t miss earthquakes.
@hollboll
You didn’t feel the Pawnee Oklahoma quake from last week? Have a friend who felt it in Austin.
@f00l I live not too far from Oklahoma and it was freaky. I think they upgraded it to a 5.8 too. Earthquakes caused by humans are weird.
@melwin
Woke me up in the MetroMess.
Yeah, never experienced an earthquake until fracking.
Now… Ha ha ha another one!
@melwin @f00l
It’s all a myth! /s
Technically, it’s not the fracking process that’s causing the quakes, but the disposal of the chemical wastewater underground afterwards.
https://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/tag/earthquake/
@narfcake
Got it. Everyone here “gets” the industry. Family members work in various parts of the legal and site-services sections.
The fracking industry must dispose of its hazardous waste products “safely”, so…
New earthquake zones! Nothing like yours tho.
Not wishing to go near politics - but in case I have implied otherwise, i will just mention that my own views on the politics and related issues are complex.
@f00l There’s some fracking going on here in California too, but not to the extent as it is in other states.
As for politics … it’s got to be at least as complex here too, as some areas lean extremely towards one side or another. Heck, even between some cities it’s evident. On a major street, passing through a city that’s a mix of residents and commercial, but not “business friendly”, it’s reasonably smooth. Down a few blocks, through a city that’s low in taxes and has a lot of commercial/industrial, the same street is pock-marked and about as smooth as a dirt and gravel.
@narfcake
Here, the city of Denton, TX voted to ban fracking and related industries. The state legislature, in its wisdom, decided Not To Allow That. Various legal challenges went in favor of the legislature. Of course no way $ was involved in that vote. Corruption? In Austin? No way it’s worse now than in the LBJ era, and that was squeaky-clean. Every votes their conscience. Fer sher.
And the massive environmental probs, water supply probs, health issues.
Otoh, some degree of financial growth, new industries, new tech, new income streams for people I know. And… with fracking, the US has enormous petrochemical reserves, as large as elsewhere in the world, within these borders. In certain imaginable circumstances, that’s a huge deal.
@MrGlass I was! I kind of miss it.
@f00l nope, slept right through it. I guess I don’t wake up for anything less than a 6.0
@hollboll
I hope you will forgive me for hoping that no earthquake awakens you as long as you are very near me then.
@hollboll My first earthquake was the Loma Prieta in the SF area. They are dangerous and scary. You do not miss them.
@hollboll That’s kinda me. If it’s not strong enough to shake some bricks out of the buildings in Pioneer Square, chances are I’m sleeping through it.
Here’s hoping all is alright, @SHS!
M5.4 - 8km S of Kyonju, South Korea
(I live in SoCal, so I’ve felt my fair share of larger ones over the years - Northridge, Landers, Whittier, Palm Springs, to name a few.)
@narfcake
I hope your family and your shirt collection have always been ok!
@f00l We’re fine. And the shirts will be fine too.
Then again, one time, catshirtswoot did ship the randoms in a box with bags of texas air, so I dunno …
@narfcake
Dunno exactly where you are, but Texas Ait might be better than your air. Or not.
@f00l Decades ago, no doubt. These days, maybe a lesser difference.
https://www.kcet.org/shows/lost-la/las-smoggy-past-in-photos
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150304-los-angeles-smog-children-health-environment/
Keep us updated @SHS
@SHS - I’m from California, I lived <5 miles from the Loma Prieta quake (and virtually on the San Andreas Fault). So scary, especially when they’re rare where you live and the building codes do not account for quake-proofing. It takes a while to get over the trauma, hope you’re handling it okay. My thoughts are with you.
That sounds really scary, @SHS. Hope all’s well for you and your country.
We had a 5.8 one here, too. Woke me. It seemed to last forever! Aftershocks have been as large as 3.5. I hope you and yours are OK. I don’t know about the 5.8 ones, But I have noticed that when there is a really big earthquake then there will be another big one on the other side of the planet. Perhaps the earth’s crust must readjust.
@spiralroad
My guess is that it works kind of like this:
@DVDBZN Can’t. Stop. Watching.
What an ugly swimming pool, though.
I blame North Korea and the nuclear testing.
@jml326 That was a 5.3 magnitude.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us10006n8a#executive
I blame The Ring of Fire with its volcanoes and movement of tectonic plates.