Here in Oklahoma, no, not too concerned. But I’m hearing about it on the national news. Hopefully they’re just being overly dramatic. It seems they do that a lot nowadays. I guess they’re scared of being wrong if a storm does end up being a big deal.
@therealjrn Generally, it’s the ones they think are just so so that do the real damage and when they hype them all up and everyone is well prepared in advance, it peters out so… hopefully… this too shall be a bust.
@RiotDemon I’ve heard that some walmarts are already clearancing air conditioners. Consider a portable unit instead of a window unit; no permanent (or semi-permanent) bracketing in your window, and easy to put away. Two-hose units better than one hose but also more expensive.
Depending on your window type you might want/need some hardboard or waterproofed cardboard to ‘fill gaps’ if the hose adapter is not large enough.
Fill up all the empty space in your freezer with whatever tupperware you have filled with tap water. Then you have ice to keep things cold that wont leak all over the place AND free drinking water that’s from before any boil order.
@char2na What’s this ‘empty space’? We’re dining on steak and shrimp and the expensive stuff from the freezer, because Jim Cantore is coming to town. I’m in Jacksonville. Oh, just the NE quadrant, you say? Riiight. Fuckity, fuckity, fuck.
@duodec I don’t have one, but I do fill my tub just in case so I can easily flush the toilet.
Last time we had a hurricane knock out power, I borrowed a water cooler from my neighbor because I didn’t have an adapter to plug in my well pump. I ended up buying all the parts, making one, and no lie, I was outside getting ready to hook it up, the power came back on. The water cooler was easy to sit up on the counter so I could wash my hands. I think I had forgotten to fill the tub that time.
@RiotDemon Tub can’t be considered potable water though, just grey water even if you bleach and clean it before filling. And if you get any sewer backflow during flooding, even worse. Water Bob makes your tub a potable water store.
We actually used one of the ones I bought here when we heard that they were going to have to turn off our water for up to 30 hours in order to repair a water main. Our water was still ok when I filled it. We only ended up using about 15 gallons (3.5 gallon toilets and washing up) but still nice to be able to flush! We also had a boil order afterwards so kept the rest until everything was settled.
I kept cases of 1/2 liter bottled water for drinking then. Now we use several 5 gallon dispenser bottles that we refill at the store. A weeks worth of drinking and coffee and cooking water minimum at all times.
Being in Orlando, we tend to be prepared for this. Honda inverter generator, a couple window A/Cs (which I trash picked and restored myself!), lots of water, flashlights, radios, and power banks for phones and other devices. And one giant inflatable wolf to snuggle with if things get scary!
@PocketBrain if you aren’t going to stay home, freeze a container of water and put a coin on top when it’s frozen. Depending on where the coin is when you get back, you’ll know how long the power was out.
@aetris oh my., that really is a hurricane decorated cookie. How strange. I still want to eat it though. I had to stare at it for a while because I thought it was a mermaid trying to hug florida for a while.
@PocketBrain Coleman stoves- the newer gas ones can burn white gas [“Coleman Fuel”] or regular- much more versatile than our propane grill.
In the winter, our wood stove has a cook top we can cook on.
We keep some mildly chlorinated water in 5-gallon buckets with spigots [from brewing supplier] to put on counter for drinking and washing, and refill from water bob, and/or our well water [when we run the generator…]
West Palm Beach here. Long lines at the pump and bare shelves aplenty. I seem to recall the cone covering more of the Miami area, but the cone has moved up some. I also noticed the forecasts keep pushing the day back to where this storm will hit. First I heard the weekend, but now I’m hearing it could be Monday. I have the feeling the cone will move further up again.
AMZN will deliver more batteries and disinfectant wipes Sat. Flower is discounted on Fridays at a local dispensary, so will stock up. All other meds are lined up. Sea bass and steak every day until we lose power, then a big neighborhood BBQ.
@OldCatLady love those discounts!. Unfortunately my neighborhood dispensary only gives to military or SNAP recipients. But they did a rolling sale in August so I got 25% off this week. I stocked up too
The newest update has the middle of the cone coming straight at me. It looks like I’m going to stay at someone else’s house.
Even though I have shutters, my roof is shingles. That worries me. My house is also a wood frame, but I have hardi plank siding. I’ve just never had a direct hit in this house so I have no idea how it’ll fare. The last storm that was close was Matthew and it turned North last minute. That left the house with shingle damage.
@JnKL it’s almost stalled at 1mph movement to the west. The track still has it going up the coast, but we are still going to get hurricane force winds. I’m hoping the 11am update shows it turning. It’s worrisome when it moves so slow.
Hey RD… hope all is going OK down your way. Hang onto your hat, it gonna blow pretty hard it looks like.
My FIL rode out a storm at his house on Pensacola Beach years ago. Felt pretty good about his decision until daylight when he realized the roof on the neighbor’s house across the street had blown off (the entire roof… virtually intact) and if it hadn’t gotten caught up in the powerlines and landed in his yard and the road, it would have taken out his house. Next time he evacuated…
I wonder what all those weather channel folks sent down on the coast will do now. Probably disappointed. It doesn’t make sense to tell everyone to run and then they shoot live scenes on location during the worst part. Maybe it will payoff and good sense people will learn to heed warnings. Nah. Selfie time.
@PlutoIsAPlanet They do it all the time. Cantore and his crew showed up in Mobile when big weather was expected there yr or 2 ago and it was a total bust (thankfully) because it totally broke up before landfall. They’ll just head home or move to the next potential. Generally, the locals have fun with him for a bit while he’s there tho.
@PlutoIsAPlanet Well I saw some photos and videos from the other year where the weather folks pretended to be in horrific weather and then were photo bombed by two kids causally walking down the road in shorts and t-shirts texting while the weather people were hanging on to dear life to a porch post in the driving rain (hose and fan I guess).
Sure, several hours, or a day or two of blackouts would be yucky, but my really big concern is the not-uncommon extended scenario where you don’t have electricity for weeks. While having a big enough generator to run appliances, the fridge, sound system, and even AC sounds great… those use up more and more fuel the bigger they are. Keeping one running for weeks would require way too much gas to store safely or in a practical way at home.
The very popular Honda eu2000 model uses 6-8 gallons/day to produce it’s max 2000 watt load, and about 3gal/day on 1/4 load, and won’t go much lower than that if you use less. Costs about $1000. Similar performing models at Harbor Freight cost a fraction of this though.
The also praised Honda eu7000is, which can produce a just-about-everything-but-central-AC-moving constant 5500 watts, requires 20 gallons per day to do so. Costs about $4000. Again, the HF model gets good reviews and costs much less money.
On the other end of the spectrum… the super cheap Sportsman 1000 inverter generator, uses less than 2gal/day to produce 500 watts (800 is its normal output, 1000 is surge). And these often go on sale for $100-$150. Yes, it’s an inverter generator too! Very quiet and light.
So, here’s my approach:
I figure in a nightmare extended-outage scenario, my main concern would be keeping the food good, a light bulb or two and having a fan. (Charging a phone,tablet, flashlights require negligible wattage.)
Most modern fridges (made in the last 10-15 years; with inverter-driven compressors) use very little power because they ramp up slowly and then run on as little as 80 watts to maintain temp. I checked mine with a kill-a-watt, and it’s like that. Then I’d need an LED bulb or two, plus an oscillating fan and bam… just a few hundred watts and the very basics are covered for an extended outage. So yeah, I’ve got a little Sportsman 1000 watt generator. After buying it, I came across a ridiculous deal on a 2000 watt inverter unit that can run on propane or gas. So, there’s (slightly thirstier) backup now.
My dream setup would be to have a huuuge whole-house inverter (not an engine-driven generator, an actual battery to AC inverter) that switches over automatically and can run the whole house for a day or two off of deep-cycle batteries. This would cover the nuisance outages of a few hours here and there that we seem to get multiple times a year. Then, once the outage goes beyond the battery capacity we switch over to frugal mode and get the little 1000 watt guy to run the fridge with minimal gas or propane consumption. Oh, and this has the added benefit that you’re one step away from adding solar panels later on and being off-grid (or just less grid dependent).
@jester747 what about natural gas whole house generators? At least around here everyone has natural gas, and unless a tornado comes through and wrecks the gas line/generator it should run in just about any outage, I think.
@djslack If I had utility-grade natural gas I’d certainly consider DIY-installing a whole-house generator for a couple grand (they easily cost way more than that though).
But still, the little 1000 watt things are just so practical. About the size of three shoeboxes. And that way if your gas line ever does get compromised you also have worst-case-scenario backup beyond the whole-house generator. And if you don’t need it yourself during an outage, you can be a superhero to somebody that doesn’t have one. Plus, take it camping, tailgating, etc.
@djslack@jester747 I’ve lived several places in the boonies where everything is powered by propane due to the generator not working much below -5 degrees F. Stuff is run from a tank on the property (in the summer electricity, but winter lights, etc. are propane; needed refilled once every 3 or 4 months). A bit of overkill for a “what if” scenario though.
@djslack@Kidsandliz Yeah, propane has some neat advantages… it burns extremely clean, hence why Zamboni machines and forklifts use it as fuel so they can be used indoors (cars can easily be retrofitted to run off of it or natural gas as is done safely in many other countries, and we have decades worth of the stuff in the US… so why oil?? That’s another discussion). Anyhow, it also basically keeps indefinitely. Common gasoline with ethanol starts to go bad after just a couple months I believe. Non-ethanol gasoline (available at a few stations, particularly those near boaters) can be stored up to a year. Propane… pfff… till the tank rusts out. Oh, and you can bury big tanks rather safely. Downside is that it has less energy than gasoline… so you only get something like 75-80% of the power that gasoline produces, and in my area a gallon of propane costs way more than gasoline (most of the world it’s the opposite, grrr).
@f00l newer homes have to meet the stricter hurricane codes. Most(if not all) new homes are CBS construction. Metal roofing is super popular where I live. Impact windows are more common, but not required. Impact windows/Shutters get you discounts on your homeowners insurance, so it’s worth it. Plus the new windows make the house super quiet and hold the ac better.
I watched a house be built around the corner from me. While the 1st floor was CBS, the second story was wood frame, but with a metal roof.
@f00l In 2001, FL required all new houses to have roofs that can withstand 120 mph winds. My house was built in 2003. Irma peeled the shingles off, but the roof had no structural damage, and insurance bought new shingles. My neighbors have held off replacing theirs, hoping for the same result.
We rode out Hurricane Michael in a 10 year old double wide. It was a Cat 5. We sat in the middle of a 1 acre plot of dense giant oaks and pines. Every tree, except the big sycamore next to the house, was mowed down. Our house was untouched.
It’s been almost 11 months and the area still looks ravaged. You can drive around and see houses still flattened. There are no standing forest anywhere for roughly 150 square miles. Small area but shit load of damage.
Right now I am under a Tropical Storm Watch. They said wind could be as high as 37 m.p.h…
It amazes me how many people are still buying D batteries and flashlights that run on D batteries. Every year the stores sell out of those fast. Truth be told, all the portable lights and fans that I own run on AA and/or AAA batteries.
And yes, many of them have been purchased on Meh (including batteries).
@therealjrn it’s true. Trying not to get complacent when it’s so far away but with the models changing as much as they have it’s tough knowing what to do. I’m in Tampa so I’m staying put but if it doesn’t turn, we’re ALL in for some serious shit down here.
@CaptAmehrican It isn’t going to be good that is for sure. I hope they are OK and get phones back sooner rather than later so they can contact you to let you know. When we used to sail there it seemed like so many of the houses, even if up the hills, were flimsy. Painted pretty colors but stick built and basic. I can’t imagine how they’d survive that wind, almost makes the spring tide issue seem minor in comparison.
@Kidsandliz during the eye reports were bad. Houses leveled, roofs off, 15 ft storm surge, boats and cars everywhere. So far no known casualties. However, the people who are able to report are at the highest and safest locations. Those in the lower or outter areas are not going to be able to report for a while. They are the most vulnerable.
Anyone who wants to donate
Hopetown Volunteer Fire Department is the emergency services for the Abaco and they are taking paypal as they start search and rescue .
The site includes
Storm news and modeling (I believe both NOAA and EU models);
Radar, satellite, storm plane images;
Projected timelines; damage reports, warnings, search and rescue info, news, from local authorities;
After storm: donation, recovery, search, rescue, emergency needs, survivor info;
Site seems businesslike and useful.
During big storms the site disables much historical and background info and aggregates current storm info on the home page.
@CaptAmehrican@RiotDemon@stolicat And it’s growing. Weakening, but widening. I’m glad it looks like the most devastating winds won’t hit Florida head on, but the flooding could be huge.
/giphy hang on to your buts
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@Kidsandliz all my close friends were American citizens and thus have been evacuated. Acquaintances are not all American and thus not getting evacuated.
Two of my close friends are still in hospitals in Florida
I got extremely lucky where I am. The storm has started to move again very slowly. I’m getting bands of rain and wind, but honestly, it could just be another summer day here. It’s pretty much almost the same amount of rain we’ve been getting all week.
I just know people are going to be complaining that they prepared for nothing. It happens every time a storm comes close. I wanna scream at those people sometimes.
Hopefully the majority of the storm will stay off the coast as predicted and everything will be ok.
@kdemo We’re fine, thanks for asking. I had zero damage, my neighbor has a small dead tree to cut up. Like @PooltoyWolf, I brought my big wind chimes inside, but didn’t check for critters. One small frog jumped out when I rehung them. It’ll be interesting to see whether any are still in the house. The cat will find them, and share any catches with me.
Supposed to be getting it near me tomorrow night in NE NC. I’m in enough from the OBX that it should just be wind and rain, but flooding is an issue in my town. At lest my place isn’t in a major flood zone.
Dorian officially missed us almost completely here in Belle Isle. In fact, it was mild enough that I was able to play Pokémon GO in it! Oh, and I made a video about finding tree frogs in my wind chimes, and it blew the fuck up and went viral, so there’s that!
@Kidsandliz Tree frogs have sticky pads on their toes that allow them to climb straight up walls. We usually have some frogs sleeping in the chimes during the day to avoid the heat, but this was more than usual, so we figured they sensed changes in the weather and wanted to hide.
@Kidsandliz@PooltoyWolf I’ve occasionally found things in mine… more often than not… damsel flies nests (those mud things) and I would imagine with a heavier frog, they aren’t going to clang too much generally. Obviously, with hurricanes that would be much different.
@PooltoyWolf Hope you are going to be paid well for it. Was it a well known company? Pretty cool. Hopefully they will now follow you there and see what else you post that they might like. Who knows. Some day you may be a famous pool toy wolf and we can all say we knew you before your head got so big it blew up (snicker). Seriously though, congrats.
One of my friends is raising money and trying to rebuild the infrastructure of the small island he is living on.
If anyone is feeling generous this is the help Lubbers Quarters Cay fundraiser
It is a small 2 mile long lovely island