@ihaveyoursox I feel like not being connected to Amazon is a good thing. It would give me so much anxiety to let Alexa buy stuff with my credit card without first comparison shopping and checking reviews.
@ihaveyoursox It’s good to spread your surveillance around 4-5 different companies rather than concentrate on one. For instance Amazon has your credit card and address, but only Google knows what kind of porn you like.
@Brasssong Three Google Homes for the hipsters blogging online,
Seven for the forum trolls posting from the basements of mom’s home,
Nine for everyone doomed to impulsively buy,
One for The Donald spamming Tweets from his phone,
In the land of unconstitutional wiretapping where our freedoms die.
One Google Home to record them all, One Google Home to spy on them,
One Google Home to self-incriminate them all and with subpoenas indict them,
In the land of unconstitutional wiretapping where our freedoms die.
@awk Fine then! You ungrateful little brats think it’s so easy to just get what you want all of the time!? That you can just press a few buttons and the thing you want will magically appear at your doorstep in exactly two days!? That it would at most be ten or so bucks more than what I paid for your god-damn present after slaving away at my job!? You ingrates have no idea about the world of online shopping, a world whose darkness I bathe in every day! All you do is sit here and eat your candy corn and play with your knives and speaker docks while I lose my sanity keeping track of a dozen different deal aggregate sites every d…
"Domestic disturbance detected. Dialing 911."
What the hell!? This thing isn’t even plugged in!
@username Can Google Assistant turn lights on & off or play media on in-home devices? I don’t think I ever used it much but I love being able to say: “OK Google: turn on the kitchen lights”, “OK Google: turn on the living room media player.”, “OK Google: play ‘Redbone’ on all speakers”, etc.
The speaker in it isn’t bad at all and it can be put in synced audio-groups with Chromecast audios, so you can have whole-home audio really cheaply.
@elspic Google Assistant can turn lights on and off with the caveat that fewer device manufacturers have done the integration. For example, it works as well as Alexa for my Phillips Hue lights and my TP Link outlet, but my cheap Chinese RGB bulb works with Alexa but not Google Assistant (or IFTTT).
Alexa has been around longer, and this is likely to improve.
I haven’t messed with playing music to different devices. I’m not big on playing music through little speakers like those in the Echo and Home (or Bluetooth speakers).
@craigthom Aren’t you comparing 2 different things though? Google Assistant is just a phone app and Alexa is a hardware/software device. I didn’t realize that Google Assistant could work with Hue lights and thought that was something hardware related in the GH.
I’m using Home Assistant for my home automation hub and it works with Google Home via Hue emulation, which isn’t perfect but, as long as I can get the device into Home Assistant, GH can see it.
@elspic That’s not direct integration, though. I think people running Home Assistant or OpenHAB or Domoticz or something similar will know the details.
For people who just want to buy the Google Home or Alexa and have it work directly with their home automation devices, then it’s important that they work natively. I think that’s most people. They want to buy the bits and just have them work.
I think I’m being pretty specific when I’m comparing Alexa with Google Assistant (the AI part) and the Echo with Google Home (the hardware).
I can do both Google Assistant and Alexa from my phone. I can do Alexa from my Echo. I don’t have a Google Home at this point.
@craigthom But the Google Assistant app is NOT the same as the Google Home app. You use the Google Home app instead of Google Assistant, when you have a Google Home hardware device and it’s my understanding that the Google Home app is more capable than Google Assistant, especially in regards to home automation. It does sound like the Echo currently integrates with more services than the Home but the OP was asking about how the Home is different from Google Assistant.
Sorry if this sounds argumentative, I’m just trying to understand, as well as be clear for anyone else.
I actually really like this device. I love the ability to makes calls, play music, set alarms, and do spelling and counting lessons with my son just by using my voice vs logging on/logging in or booting up to do these same things. My only major complaint is that it does not have the ability to recognize if you have more than one Google Calendar account under a single user. They are supposedly working on this. The only thing that makes me mad as that Alexa does have this function and google doesn’t. I just don’t understand that seeing as its their program. Other than that I am really happy with it. It also has some fun features (ie the magic crystal ball, singing songs, telling jokes etc) that my 3 year old son really loves. So it gives us another chance to interact in have fun together.
I really don’t care if it’s spying on me as I have a pretty boring existence… and thats cool because that translates to no drama.
@dagirlgenius Alexa can tell bad dad jokes and sing songs, too. Apparently the latter was in response to Google Assistant. She can also give me a beat, rap, and autotune.
Google Assistant is better at playing trivia games; Alexa numbers the answers and wants me to give the number of the answer, which is really confusing when the answers are numbers.
I’ve had an Echo for a few weeks, and I’ve been playing with Google Assistant on my phone for around six months, after playing with my brother’s Google Home for a couple of days, and I’m still not sure which one I like better.
Amazon does have much better integration with third party devices. It’s always “Works with Alexa” first, then Google and Apple, maybe, in smaller print. This will likely change as the market changes, but, right now, if you want to control smart home devices, Alexa is a better choice.
I am undecided about which way I’m going to go for the rest of the house. I’m going to wait at least a couple of months to see how things develop.
I have an Echo and use it/like it. A week or so ago I was watching a live stream on utube and the dude said Alex, woke Alexa, I let him know in the chat. He apologized.
At the end of the stream, the dude, that has dogs that love to fetch asked Alexa to send to tennis balls. Alexa responded
Oh, well you had to be there .
BTW, it was Lawful Masses with Leonard French, you favorite copyright attorney. Interesting stuff.
I only clicked the “Meh” button because I have had one for over a year (and like it) and I bought a second during your Meh multi-item sale day (whatever you called it!) recently.
I also thank you for saying “raising the question” rather than “begs the question” which means, as per Wikipedia, “to assume the truth of the conclusion of an argument in the premises in order for the conclusion to follow. One of the simplest examples is the claim, “Paranormal activity is real because I have experienced what can only be described as paranormal activity.””
Also, a close relative used to work at Google security and felt that Google was not interested in spying on our kitchen conversations. And why would you think Google is but Amazon is not?
@Rentalsoul if you still want one and you don’t get one let me know. I bought one on impulse here last time and it’s still in its shipping box as I’m not finding anything I particularly want to use it for. I was thinking about posting it on Craigslist. If you’re willing to pay $79 + postage it’s yours.
@payindigo It lacks the microphone array that makes it able to hear you while music is playing, and, out of the box, you need to press a button to play with it.
Back in the Spring I played with this software and AlexaPi on an Orange Pi Zero. And they worked, but by the time I got everything set up it would cost more than a Dot on sale, and I suspect Google will have something similar, too.
It’s a fun toy, but it’s not a practical replacement.