@Comedian@lichen For that kind of power outage, you need an actual generator, not a battery pack that will barely last a day with minimalcritical items powered - and possible not even hours, depending on what’s critical. That said, as an adjunct to such a generator, these packs can be damned handy. I had - and used - both during the week after Beryl hit Houston. I need a bigger generator and a switchover box if we’re going to run the A/C.
@duodec@sligett maybe. This is just cheap re wrapped battery pack made by the lowest bidder for a 3rd party to sell through Costco and now to sell through meh to you. You’d have to be nuts to buy this, check out slick deals. Plenty of quality offers ( at least there were before Hurricane) and panels are getting very inexpensive these days too.
@duodec@sligett nuts might be too strong of a word, but this offering is stale. 600 is a good chunk of change to buy something that has been sitting in multiple warehouses because no one wants them, better features elsewhere for this price range imo.
@duodec Lithium-ion is the blanket descriptor of every lithium-based battery chemistry made. It tells the buyer precisely nothing about which chemistry is used. I could be generous and posit that they used it because the typical buyer wouldn’t be able to tell you the difference between LiCoO2, LiMnO4, LiNiMnCoO2, LiNiCoAlO2, Li2TiO3, and LiFePO4 with a road map and a native guide, but I suspect the real reason is a combination of their marketing people knowing that salient fact and their bean counters wanting the highest profit possible per unit sold without risking major customer service issues because of crap quality. Do I think they probably used the crappiest chemistry? No. Do I think they used LiFePO4? Also no, but I could be wrong. Oh, and Lithium-ion is not shorthand for Lithium-polymer; those batteries can use any of several of the chemistries listed, but their electrolyte is a gel instead of a liquid. I doubt that these packs use polymer, simply because that’s primarily employed where the highest power density to volume is required, such as in cell phones and high-performance cordless tool battery packs.
I have one of these packs. I am not curious enough about the battery chemistry to want to crack it open and read the markings on the cells (nor do I place 100% confidence in those markings being reliable).
@FredWilbur If your EV charges from a 110V socket and has a battery capacity less than 70% as large as this pack, sure. (It might charge a kid’s e-scooter.)
@FredWilbur@werehatrack This unit has a storage capacity of 0.991 KWH. I believe the average for a Tesla is around 3 to 5 miles per KWH. Some EVs might be higher, but I doubt by much. So even if you could dump all the energy stored in this into an EV, you won’t go far, but you could get there in style.
@FredWilbur@kuoh@werehatrack The 2024 Tesla Model 3 uses 25kWh/100 miles or 250Wh/mile. The 991Wh in this pack will provide three or four miles of range (leave the climate control off and drive slow & steady to maximize range).
@ohhwell Harbor Freight sells both a monocrystalline and an amorphous panel, but those are supplied with their laughable automotive-accessory-style connectors. You would have to clip the lead and install a proper plug on it before you could hook it up to these power packs. I’ve seen panels with this style of plug in a couple of places, but there’s not much standardization as far as I can tell.
I am going to hold out on these. Maybe we’ll start seeing them in IRKs? Better yet: someone gets a full pallet of them, like back in the day when someone’s BOC was a pallet of car wax.
@omally Some of those were IK, orhers not so much. I got lucky, mine was good. We used all three of our units after Beryl, plus the generator. The packs provided portable spot power, the generator ran fixed things like fridge, freezer and microwave.
Specs
Product: Energizer 1200W Generator & 200W Solar Panel Bundle
Model: ENBG1000BUN
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$1199.99 at Amazon
Was $1400 at Costco
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Oct 28 - Tuesday, Oct 29
This should help keep the trunk lights on.
@yakkoTDI And run the air purifier.
/giphy popping eyeballs
/giphy throwing money
Hits a bit close to home with about 1,000,000 homes without power in Georgia right now.
@Comedian I guess they should have bought this when it was offered before here on Meh!
@Comedian great time to emphasize the need for basic prepping!
@Comedian @lichen For that kind of power outage, you need an actual generator, not a battery pack that will barely last a day with minimalcritical items powered - and possible not even hours, depending on what’s critical. That said, as an adjunct to such a generator, these packs can be damned handy. I had - and used - both during the week after Beryl hit Houston. I need a bigger generator and a switchover box if we’re going to run the A/C.
Lithium Ion batteries. Older tech, less safe, and considerably shorter life expectancy than more current LiFePO4 batteries. So no thanks.
@duodec But the lifetime could still be tens of years.
https://blog.ecoflow.com/us/how-long-do-lithium-batteries-last/
@sligett
still doesn’t make it a good deal. grab an ecoflow delta 2 @ $499
1024Wh LiFePO4 (LFP) Battery, 1800W
and find some crappy 200w panel similar to the one in this bundle.
@duodec @sligett maybe. This is just cheap re wrapped battery pack made by the lowest bidder for a 3rd party to sell through Costco and now to sell through meh to you. You’d have to be nuts to buy this, check out slick deals. Plenty of quality offers ( at least there were before Hurricane) and panels are getting very inexpensive these days too.
@duodec @sligett nuts might be too strong of a word, but this offering is stale. 600 is a good chunk of change to buy something that has been sitting in multiple warehouses because no one wants them, better features elsewhere for this price range imo.
@duodec Lithium-ion is the blanket descriptor of every lithium-based battery chemistry made. It tells the buyer precisely nothing about which chemistry is used. I could be generous and posit that they used it because the typical buyer wouldn’t be able to tell you the difference between LiCoO2, LiMnO4, LiNiMnCoO2, LiNiCoAlO2, Li2TiO3, and LiFePO4 with a road map and a native guide, but I suspect the real reason is a combination of their marketing people knowing that salient fact and their bean counters wanting the highest profit possible per unit sold without risking major customer service issues because of crap quality. Do I think they probably used the crappiest chemistry? No. Do I think they used LiFePO4? Also no, but I could be wrong. Oh, and Lithium-ion is not shorthand for Lithium-polymer; those batteries can use any of several of the chemistries listed, but their electrolyte is a gel instead of a liquid. I doubt that these packs use polymer, simply because that’s primarily employed where the highest power density to volume is required, such as in cell phones and high-performance cordless tool battery packs.
I have one of these packs. I am not curious enough about the battery chemistry to want to crack it open and read the markings on the cells (nor do I place 100% confidence in those markings being reliable).
Sure, it’ll run your blender, but will it render my blender?
/giphy demon_blender
@TheMonkeyKing
/giphy demon blender
@TheMonkeyKing
/giphy blender rendering a demon
Can this device, if fully charged, be used to charge my EV?
@FredWilbur If your EV charges from a 110V socket and has a battery capacity less than 70% as large as this pack, sure. (It might charge a kid’s e-scooter.)
@FredWilbur @werehatrack This unit has a storage capacity of 0.991 KWH. I believe the average for a Tesla is around 3 to 5 miles per KWH. Some EVs might be higher, but I doubt by much. So even if you could dump all the energy stored in this into an EV, you won’t go far, but you could get there in style.
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@FredWilbur @kuoh @werehatrack The 2024 Tesla Model 3 uses 25kWh/100 miles or 250Wh/mile. The 991Wh in this pack will provide three or four miles of range (leave the climate control off and drive slow & steady to maximize range).
How many times are they going to run this deal at the exact same price?
@chrylis as long as people are buying, Meh will be selling. IIRC, SideDeal always has these packs ready to go.
@chrylis Until there are no more.
If the display is ‘Intelligent’, why does it need a label to tell you what it is?
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@werehatrack
/giphy Captain Obvious
I still just want the solar panel…
@ohhwell same
@ohhwell Harbor Freight sells both a monocrystalline and an amorphous panel, but those are supplied with their laughable automotive-accessory-style connectors. You would have to clip the lead and install a proper plug on it before you could hook it up to these power packs. I’ve seen panels with this style of plug in a couple of places, but there’s not much standardization as far as I can tell.
I am going to hold out on these. Maybe we’ll start seeing them in IRKs? Better yet: someone gets a full pallet of them, like back in the day when someone’s BOC was a pallet of car wax.
@Jasongb i got one in my last IRK!
/giphy noice
@Jasongb @omally but did the one you got in an irk actually work?
@Kidsandliz I’ve only had it for a few days, but it holds a charge, which is more than I can say for the no-name brand one I actually bought here.
@omally Was that other one small and blue, and sold a couple of years ago? (Not the Puleida, this was prior to those.)
@werehatrack no, I’m pretty sure I bought the Puleida, which would drain entirely after being unplugged for like an hour.
@omally Some of those were IK, orhers not so much. I got lucky, mine was good. We used all three of our units after Beryl, plus the generator. The packs provided portable spot power, the generator ran fixed things like fridge, freezer and microwave.
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