A fly is mandatory for me, but a poorly designed fly is worse than none at all.
My wife once bought me a set from Europe (from a large brand, no less) that clearly hadn’t had an adult male in the design or test team. Literally couldn’t walk 100 yards in them without something bad happening. To make it worse, a large fraction of my coworkers were female, and keeping things non-obvious around them was a challenge. I seriously considered going into the bathroom and wearing them inside out or backwards or chancing nothing at all (can’t remember what my solution was). I tossed the set when I got home and wondered how many million men had had to deal with them, given it was a major brand.
This isn’t a topic that has ever come up in my real-life conversations, but some things said previously in this forum has made me wonder:
Does anybody actually “use” the fly in their underwear?
(obviously not asking about any insects—hopefully those are never in human underwear)
I ask this as a lifelong male whose underwear has always had a fly. I’ve never understood its utility.
I mean, I think I know why it’s there: tradition.
From the old, stereotypically-red, one-piece, thermal underwear — with the gated community in the front and the trapdoor in the back. Those openings allowed using the outhouse (or the open range) without completely undressing.
I’ve spent my whole life just pushing the waistband down in the bathroom. It’s elastic; it stretches; it easily moves out of the way. And in my small sample size of volunteers (i.e. just me), that’s immensely easier than maneuvering in such a way as to keep the waistband in place.
Yet some comment(s) here on Meh (probably on one of the other underwear offerings, though I don’t remember or care which) indicated that [some] other men use their underwear’s fly as the shortest path to the urinal. That seems like too much extra work with no benefit, but I’m willing to admit that I’m either
ᵃ⁾ weird, or
ᵇ⁾ have a different situation than others (such as a different body type or clothing style).
After all, I know that “boxers vs briefs [vs other options]” is a very individual question, and every answer is a personal opinion.
@xobzoo Reading a “do you stand or sit to wipe after number two?” debate made me give up all hope on understanding WTF is happening in a typical bathroom.
@xobzoo For me, it depends on the pants I’m wearing. Some, like dress pants or shorts, have a tendency to slip down too far if I undo the belt. For these, I go with the fly. Jeans rarely have this issue for me, so over the top it is.
@brennyn@xobzoo I definitely get you. And under normal circumstances I’d be saying the same thing.
But I’m kinda fat, and this one time kinda recently I was kinda electrolyte depleted and went to wipe while sitting down, and the act of bending to the side set off an absolutely agonizing and violent muscle spasm in my flank. I had to sit bolt upright for ten minutes for it to go away. Then when I did it again, it came back immediately. I am not a smart man, so I had to go for a third before I discovered the pattern. So this was like a 35 minute poop break when all was said and done.
Eventually I decided to try to wipe standing up, because I work an IT job and wasn’t about to go back to work riding dirty.
Boss was a little concerned. So I told him exactly what happened and he believed me because nobody trying to make shit up to get away with a 35 minute reddit check on the toilet would have excused it in such an enormously unflattering way.
@donpratt Thank you, that provides at least one reason… and it makes sense.
I haven’t [yet] run into that problem, so it wouldn’t be fair for me to claim that I’d deal with it a different way.
@donpratt@xobzoo@smyle Odd. My jeans fit tighter than my skin. Formalwear are usually locked into place like a piece of armor by waistbands and the like. I need that engineered flap to open (though I agree with brennyn, zippers are nasty). The only times I would deign to “pull everything down” are when it’s sweatpants (which have no fly) or kilts (which have enough “up” to let me pull the elastic down).
But I also dislike stretching the elastic in my underoos so much.
There’s a certain “garden” variety that makes a horizontal fly instead of the typical vertical. I was skeptical, but now they’re my go-to! Typical flies apply some side pressure, so they don’t get used. These just let it ride low and natural when you pull him out to pee. No need to pull the elastic.
I’m a girl so there’s nothing to pull out. But my dad’s so crazy about the fly in his underwear he has to have a certain kind of underwear bc of the fly and even has to have it in his pjs too. He’s 81 and blind so I let him have it.
Yes, for several reasons:
1: Habit/early training
2: Slim build - my pants would try to fall to my ankles without a hand holding them up if the waist/belt was unfastened
3: Contributing factors for reason 2 - I usually have stuff in my pockets and/or attached to my belt, making a secured waist even more necessary
I’m morbidly obese and if it’s cold out, there’s no way I’m fishing Jimmy the One-Eyed Pirate out of his stateroom unless I want a mess on my hands, both figuratively and literally. Otherwise all it does is just get sweaty and distended and let my rod and reel sneak out to go fishing for zippers when it’s hot.
No penis don’t need one
@Cerridwyn You would if you had one of these.
pStyle | Stand to Pee with Ease While Fully Clothed https://a.co/d/3I5aKDC
@lisagd hell no
@lisagd That’s super interesting; I don’t hike a lot right now but if I get back to it I might try that out. Have you used it?
No peen, no need.
Some times, but I don’t use it! If the boxer brief have it, if not that’s ok too!
My stance neither requires nor prohibits one
I’d like a fly-hole if it is to let me out, not to let flies in!
My lady bits don’t require ventilation.
Yes, definitely. Convenience in old age is more than a luxury.
A fly is mandatory for me, but a poorly designed fly is worse than none at all.
My wife once bought me a set from Europe (from a large brand, no less) that clearly hadn’t had an adult male in the design or test team. Literally couldn’t walk 100 yards in them without something bad happening. To make it worse, a large fraction of my coworkers were female, and keeping things non-obvious around them was a challenge. I seriously considered going into the bathroom and wearing them inside out or backwards or chancing nothing at all (can’t remember what my solution was). I tossed the set when I got home and wondered how many million men had had to deal with them, given it was a major brand.
I need it even though I never put the D through it
@reidk5307 What do you need it for, then?
Just tradition? (or for looking “correct”?)
(I’m not saying you’re wrong at all, just curious.)
NO fly hole needed, I am a girl!
This isn’t a topic that has ever come up in my real-life conversations, but some things said previously in this forum has made me wonder:
Does anybody actually “use” the fly in their underwear?
(obviously not asking about any insects
—hopefully those are never in human underwear)
I ask this as a lifelong male whose underwear has always had a fly. I’ve never understood its utility.
I mean, I think I know why it’s there: tradition.
From the old, stereotypically-red, one-piece, thermal underwear — with the gated community in the front and the trapdoor in the back. Those openings allowed using the outhouse (or the open range) without completely undressing.
I’ve spent my whole life just pushing the waistband down in the bathroom. It’s elastic; it stretches; it easily moves out of the way. And in my small sample size of volunteers (i.e. just me), that’s immensely easier than maneuvering in such a way as to keep the waistband in place.
Yet some comment(s) here on Meh (probably on one of the other underwear offerings, though I don’t remember or care which) indicated that [some] other men use their underwear’s fly as the shortest path to the urinal. That seems like too much extra work with no benefit, but I’m willing to admit that I’m either
ᵃ⁾ weird, or
ᵇ⁾ have a different situation than others (such as a different body type or clothing style).
After all, I know that “boxers vs briefs [vs other options]” is a very individual question, and every answer is a personal opinion.
So what’s with underwear flies?
@xobzoo Reading a “do you stand or sit to wipe after number two?” debate made me give up all hope on understanding WTF is happening in a typical bathroom.
@xobzoo You perfectly articulated why I’m reading these comments. Please, somebody who answered “yes” to the question respond to this thread
@xobzoo For me, it depends on the pants I’m wearing. Some, like dress pants or shorts, have a tendency to slip down too far if I undo the belt. For these, I go with the fly. Jeans rarely have this issue for me, so over the top it is.
@brennyn @xobzoo
That was a topic? WTF, so glad I didn’t read that.
@brennyn @xobzoo I definitely get you. And under normal circumstances I’d be saying the same thing.
But I’m kinda fat, and this one time kinda recently I was kinda electrolyte depleted and went to wipe while sitting down, and the act of bending to the side set off an absolutely agonizing and violent muscle spasm in my flank. I had to sit bolt upright for ten minutes for it to go away. Then when I did it again, it came back immediately. I am not a smart man, so I had to go for a third before I discovered the pattern. So this was like a 35 minute poop break when all was said and done.
Eventually I decided to try to wipe standing up, because I work an IT job and wasn’t about to go back to work riding dirty.
Boss was a little concerned. So I told him exactly what happened and he believed me because nobody trying to make shit up to get away with a 35 minute reddit check on the toilet would have excused it in such an enormously unflattering way.
@donpratt Thank you, that provides at least one reason… and it makes sense.
I haven’t [yet] run into that problem, so it wouldn’t be fair for me to claim that I’d deal with it a different way.
@donpratt @xobzoo @smyle Odd. My jeans fit tighter than my skin. Formalwear are usually locked into place like a piece of armor by waistbands and the like. I need that engineered flap to open (though I agree with brennyn, zippers are nasty). The only times I would deign to “pull everything down” are when it’s sweatpants (which have no fly) or kilts (which have enough “up” to let me pull the elastic down).
But I also dislike stretching the elastic in my underoos so much.
There’s no upside to including a way for my dong to flop out and get smashed against a zipper.
@brennyn Use buttons.
Yes. For the same reason as Rosie O’Donnell.
I don’t want flies going into my underwear. And I certainly hope that region isn’t attracting flies in the first place.
There’s a certain “garden” variety that makes a horizontal fly instead of the typical vertical. I was skeptical, but now they’re my go-to! Typical flies apply some side pressure, so they don’t get used. These just let it ride low and natural when you pull him out to pee. No need to pull the elastic.
I’m a girl so there’s nothing to pull out. But my dad’s so crazy about the fly in his underwear he has to have a certain kind of underwear bc of the fly and even has to have it in his pjs too. He’s 81 and blind so I let him have it.
Yes, for several reasons:
1: Habit/early training
2: Slim build - my pants would try to fall to my ankles without a hand holding them up if the waist/belt was unfastened
3: Contributing factors for reason 2 - I usually have stuff in my pockets and/or attached to my belt, making a secured waist even more necessary
“It’s a sex thing” - Pulp Fiction
I couldn’t care less. Even when it has a fly, I don’t use it… So much easier to just pop it over the top than try and squeeze it through the fly
I don’t want one, and the reason is no one else’s concern.
Absolutely not.
I’m morbidly obese and if it’s cold out, there’s no way I’m fishing Jimmy the One-Eyed Pirate out of his stateroom unless I want a mess on my hands, both figuratively and literally. Otherwise all it does is just get sweaty and distended and let my rod and reel sneak out to go fishing for zippers when it’s hot.
This thread has been disturbingly visual…or is that visually disturbing…I vote both
I was always told that the fly-hole was there to allow oxygen to get to the brain.
@heartny
