@username My understanding is that CBD from industrial hemp is legal in all 50 states. The thing is it has to have less than .3% THC. That is the difference between medical marijuana and industrial hemp. It makes no actual sense, because it’s the same plant, but there you go.
@ConAndLibrarian@jst1ofknd there were tons of articles just few years ago about people with seizures etc who could not legally get CBD in US and had to travel to Europe or such… obviously I have not stayed on top of the news but seems like them feds didn’t like anything maryzhuanna derived
@ConAndLibrarian@jst1ofknd@username couple years ago, cbd products sprung up at health foods/ suppliment stores here in Ohio. Then 2 months ago the state pharmacy board declared their sale illegal outside the state authorized medical cannabis dispensaries, none of which are online yet…
@awk I thought the same thing. I loaded the site and it said gummy bears at the top, but then I was disappointed. If they sold the ones from December 26th, 2016 again for around the same price I would be in.
@CaptAmehrican Huh - I am nearing retirement and I’ve never taken a whiz quiz. Even at a couple employers that adopted testing while I worked there, I was grandfathered out. So it’s not something I’ve ever worried about.
@eeterrific pain and anxiety relief, etc. i know several people who use cbd pens or products with cbd oil and it’s useful for them. my partner and i have toyed with the idea as neither of us like weed in any thc-having form but have yet to bite the bullet and try cbd. these gummies aren’t likely to be as helpful tho i’m guessing
(i realize your comment may be rhetorical and for comic relief but a lot of people ask this genuinely, so.)
There are no guarantees that the label accurately reflects what’s in the product. For a 2015 study published in JAMA, researchers tested 75 products [cannabis] purchased in San Francisco, Los Angeles and Seattle and found that only 17 percent were accurately labeled. More than half of the products contained significantly lower levels of cannabinoids than the label promised, and some of them contained only negligible amounts of the compounds.
I take CBD on rare occasions to help with anxiety and pain. 1 20mg capsule def is pain relief, though not total its gone levels of relief. The ass tasting CBD tea is 100mg in 2 50mg servings and 50mg definitely takes the edge off anxiety wise to the point where I can actually tolerate being around other human beings without wanting to just disappear. Can’t vouch for these though, never heard of or bought them. I don’t think CBD is regulated though so the content is arbitrary?
@whogots I’m pretty broke too, I ended up getting some green mountain brand CBD 30ct 20mg capsules from Healthy Living market, mostly because they were the cheapest. I don’t think they are as potent as advertised though. The Tea is stupid expensive, its like $9 a bottle but it’s no joke, it definitely helps. It is the worst tasting thing I have ever had the displeasure of putting in my mouth however, and advise a lot of sweetener of your choice if you wanna try it. Here’s a picture I found of the bottle. Cause its so expensive I’ve only used it twice but it has had a marked improvement to my mood and pain, I’d use it more often if I could. I was planning on buying a 3rd bottle to just have on hand for situations in which I would need a more effective dose.
@jro2020 SD must have recently doubled down on this. CBD products were available at many places in Sioux Falls (largest city) but they all kind of disappeared over the summer. Unfortunate SD is always behind the curve.
@jro2020 I live in a small town in Kansas. Yes it’s legal. A local
Pharmacy carries it and advertises it. But apparently there are a ton of regulations just to be able to carry it, a vape shop doesn’t because of that. 1 sketchy tobacco shop does, but they probably aren’t ‘legal’ to do so.
@macromeh liquor laws are completely up to the locality. When I went to school in Brookings they had only one city run liquor store. I think it has since expanded but the state is full of crazy restrictive laws. Weird considering how elections have generally turned out. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@thewynner Hey, my wife went to SDSU. She still has family in the area, so we visit semi-regularly.
Here in Oregon, it’s hard stuff in the state liquor stores, beer and wine in the supermarkets/drug stores/quickie marts/etc. Just across the river in Washington, everything is available in the supermarkets.
There’s quite a bit of discussion regarding various aspects of this item, it’s legality, etc. But aside from all of that, I can’t help but wonder… what series of events led to Meh acquiring a large quantity of these things?
Which brings to mind additional, somewhat disturbing, questions. For example, what do the Meh folk do after clocking out for the day? Where do they go? What company do they keep? What, exactly, do they do for the many hours before their next day at the office?
I don’t require specific answers. I would prefer not to have specific answers, in fact. Some things should never be openly discussed.
But whatever it is that happens, whatever they do… They ended up with a large quantity of off brand CBD gummy bears, of somewhat suspect provenance.
Brand seems reasonably well-rated, science says expired CBD gummies (not saying these are expired, just we didn’t get information about that) are basically still good CBD wrapped in expired gummy, and my wife sleeps better with both CBD and melatonin already; sounds like a good deal to me.
@AE1360@Thumperchick balance for the sake of balance is not always a good thing. Presenting both sides of the story as if they both have equal weight regarding the truth is the same problem that leads to a lack of consensus on the truth and creates further political division in America through shitty news shows that refuse to take a stand on anything for the sake of viewer retention.
@Thumperchick Balance schmalance! Of course Diamond CBD’s self published report has glowing information. History is littered with similar situations:
“Cigarettes are perfectly safe!” - every cigarette manufacturer.
“Asbestos is the new wonder material and it’s perfectly harmless” - AMA (ie Asbestos Manufacturers Association)
“Love Canal homes are THE place to raise healthy kids!” - Love Canal Developer’s press release
I wonder if a Meh employee actually does the highlights of the forum or if it is artificial intellimehnce?
Where is Awuwu?
Meh you darling scared him off already. 3 days of the most enjoyable koolaid I have drank since my bris.
Speaking of what Meh I ask of you Meh to return? Dolby Atmos and Eurosocks. W8n on some of that.
If you melt these down will you find a nail and two thumb tacks? Sure would be nice hope I don’t sieze from playing with my food.
If Mehdiocrebot is the highlighter than she should answer for her blaspheming sin of not including meh in her Highlights, I imagine many girls are bots so tits only natural…
Answer me Medicare not what say you~ Sacrilege is uwr nam.
Is there any actual clinical proof that CBD might help with anxiety?
I’ve heard good things, but I’m not sure if it’s just the placebo effect or not.
And sure, the placebo effect produces real outcomes, however it usually doesn’t last more than a couple months.
If something works, it works: enteric coated peppermint oil pills help my IBD better than low dose opiates do, but I’m pretty thoroughly sick of that whole weed as snake oil thing, especially because getting high was sold as being helpful for anxiety not very long ago, and whenever SWIM actually had a panic attack specifically because of it, there was always some excuse: you’re taking the wrong strain, you took too much, you took too little, you need to vaporize it, eat it, imbibe it rectally, etc…
@Narwalt The problem is not enough research can be done because of it’s classification as an illegal drug. This leads to demonizing on one side and belief that CBD is the cure for every disease on the other.
I purchased CBD oil for anxiety, but I’m too chicken to try it. I may look on the reddit site to see if it’s reputable.
@naropa@Narwalt CBD is not classified as an illegal drug. Hemp oil is legal to use.
I’ve used it for a few months, and it’s not a miracle, but it does help with my Chiari-based migraines. It’s better than taking an ibuprofen every day.
There are countless research studies completed or going on at this time. You can do some basic research or check the r/CBD subreddit for more information. Major newspapers are endorsing it based on the evidence available, as well as several politicians.
It does not make you high, you are worrying over nothing, and if you are in pain you should try it.
Anxiety? It helps a little bit from what I know, but again, we’re not talking a miracle.
The main debate is about the dosage at this time, with some studies showing that 15mg works, and others in the 100s of mg’s.
@Narwalt it is known that while many people ingest thc in some way or form and it makes them happy, calm, tired, less nauseous, focused, etc or some combination thereof, that it can also have the opposite effect, esp in people with anxiety. and, in my experience with any drug once you’ve had a bad experience or several, it makes it increasingly harder to have a good one, even under the right circumstances. there are mental aspects to drug use. for years i used thc in various forms and life was good. then, it was like a switch flipped and it just no longer held any positive outcomes for me. so, i stopped using it. and it’s become a joke every time i turn it down how long it will take before i start hearing about needing “the right strain.” i’ve learned over the years that stoners are the only drug users that really try to push what they’re doing on you - they’re like the vegans of the drug world, basically and with all the infinite permutations of strains & formats combined with infinite permutations of moods, time, and space, is there a combination out there in which i might have an okay time, in theory? sure. but will i chance the overwhelming likelihood that instead i’ll feel horrible (and worse, with no way to fix the horrible feeling besides wait)? no, i will not.
(also please note i am not anti weed, anti thc, anti drug, or anti legalization. thc just isn’t my drug of choice. also in before #notallstoners )
The worst thing is that I waste hundreds of dollars on bunkem, buoyed by the placebo effect, where, for the course of a couple weeks to a couple months, I actually start feeling better, only because I have the expectation of feeling better, then when that finally wears off, I keep wasting money I don’t really have in the hope that the initial effect was a genuine one that will return.
Edit: Not to mention spending more money upping the dose and seeing if that has any effect.
CBD is horrible if ingested. Most bond to fat cells never making it to the receptors in the brain where if it was actual decent dosage would be of some use. This is just a sad attempt of a company trying to get rich on the CND trend.
This might be my favorite write-up, ever. “I refuse to read the beauty article as an act of self-care”, “the ROI is I threw up in my mouth”. Can I put this write-up in my gratitude journal for the November challenge (#blessed)?
According to the DEA, this would still be illegal. Legal (approved) CBD extracted from marijuana or hemp is a schedule V CDS, non-approved is schedule III. Just like marijuana, though, no one is federally enforcing this and it is being left up to the states to enforce. Each state is handling that differently.
“Marijuana and CBD derived from marijuana remain against the law, except for the limited circumstances that it has been determined there is a medically approved benefit. In those instances, such as here, the drug will be made appropriately available to the public for medical use.”
I’m neither for nor against its use, just wanted to provide a reference and some info.
@wood8176 This is true but to highlight your point, the states are being allowed to run the show here. Most states allow it as long as the THC content is less than 0.3%. THC naturally occurs in small amounts in the parts of the plant where CBD is extracted. Some states require CBD products to be THC free as is the case in Kansas.
Statement of Principles Concerning Industrial Hemp and the Agricultural Act of 2014 -
The U.S. Department of (USDA), in consultation with DEA and the FDA, also released a statement of principles concerning provisions of the Agricultural Act of 2014 relating to the cultivation of industrial hemp. Industrial hemp is a low-concentration THC variety of the cannabis plant intended to be used for industrial (e.g., fiber and seed). This is intended to inform the public, including institutions of higher education and State departments of agriculture, how Federal law applies to activities associated with industrial hemp that is grown and cultivated in accordance with Section 7606 of the Agricultural Act of 2014.
This statement of principles outlines the legalized growing and cultivating of industrial hemp for research purposes under certain conditions, such as in states where growth and cultivation are legal under state law. The 2014 Act did not remove industrial hemp from the list of controlled substances and, with certain limited exceptions, the requirements of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and the CSA continue to apply to industrial hemp-related activities. The statement of principles addresses questions including the extent to which private parties may grow industrial hemp as part of an agricultural pilot program, the circumstances under which the sale of hemp products is permitted, and other related topics.
You go out of your way to say “who knows?” about whether this stuff has any merit. Going into it, fair enough; but you could easily enlist your buyers to give honest feedback about its effects! I’m sure you’ll sell alot of this stuff, and people’s feedback could be tantamount to a crowd-sourced study into its effects.
Put together a Google Forms survey, and your results will come back as a spreadsheet, which should be easy to analyze (if you design the survey decently).
If this interests you, let me know. I’d be happy to give you a hand with the design and analysis.
Stay away. While these seem like a good deal at first, look at the ingredients. CBD is last on the ingredient list. Personally I use Everyday Optimal products. First ingredient is Pure Cannabidiol Oil… CBD.
Looking for a sleep aid, I recently tried some CBD oil (purchased at a legal, state-regulated pot shop). Five bucks for a tiny sampler vial that claimed to be about two doses. The one I bought also had something like 4% THC. Tasted pretty bad (kind of reminded me of bong water from back in the day). It produced a relaxed feeling with a very mild buzz. Comparable to a small glass of wine. No major aid to sleeping for me (or staying asleep, I should say). Not enough benefit for the price, IMHO.
@authent1ck’s warning re: Diamond CBD’s alleged use of synthetic, psychoactive additives (aka spice) should be more prominent. Click the star below if you agree. /r/CBD also has a sidebar warning to avoid Diamond CBD products. /shrug
Is reddit even a credible source for information? I just combed google and there’s no credible sources reporting what these folks are saying on reddit… There an actual news article that reported a store clerk selling a knockoff Diamond product that contained synthetics.
@fjp999 I actually got excited for a moment, My PM is going to put me on Medical Marijuana whenever Ohio finally starts selling this but then I read that it’s only approved for epileptic syndromes and mine is pain related so I guess I won’t be asking her about this on my next visit by hopefully by then the dispenser will finally be up and running which was suppose to be done back in Sept but now won’t be until January
@NoImNotNSA You could still talk to your PM. The article does talk about many doctors prescribing this new med “off-label” for other conditions. Of course no one knows if it will work for other conditions or about insurance coverage.
As a medical cannabis patient, I find high CBD strains to to be very effective for my various nausea and pain casing health conditions. However, these things look…sketchy. Even the “usual” price seems suspiciously low for a real CBD product as compared to what I see at the dispensary. I used experimental synthetic THC pills briefly before I lived in a medical state (the digestive disorder I had was very rare, so my doctor was trying all kinds of weird stuff), and those pills did nothing, unlike the actual THC I was able to get from cannabis. I wonder if this is a similar situation?
I am all for CBD but there no guarantee this is real.
From the reddit forums, it seems this stuff is either synthetic or a very low dose from what is stated. The fact that meh has picked this up should be a clear sign to stay away. (anyone remember how nasty the power blast energy gum was?)
Anything consumed or cosmetic (makeup to teeth whiteners) is best left to morningsave… let me consult my meh-gic 8-ball…
I freakin love the power blast gum (I got mixed berry). Not for the flavor - the first 2 minutes taste like berries, then chewing down a caffeine pill. I didn’t buy them for a taste treat. They serve the purpose intended. Ok back on topic…
Not a lot of love here in the forum for today’s product, but it’s the best-selling item in over a month by quantity, and the second-best-selling by revenue (only the Roomba has it beat), and there’s still more than eight hours left in the day.
@Yetithebear I think the warehouse workers love the sour ones and are chowing on them while they mess up packing the orders due to being so relaxed, sleepy and addicted to the sour sleepy goodness of the cbd gummies…
@Yetithebear they will respond. I received responses from 2 different reps. They are actually very good at rectifying any issues. I have been a member for over 3 years and I have ordered way more things from this site than I ever really needed. I think this may only be my second problem out of a zillion orders and I feel very confident they will make it right.
Just got mine today. I can honestly say they are the real deal and they work wonderfully (only had one).
Recovering from broken hip, spine and ribs. Stress eczema and I have never felt this calm in years!