Working yourself mostly to death for an employer who doesn’t give a shit about you or your health.
When you’re exhausted every night, it’s pretty easy to fall asleep quickly.
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@werehatrack@xobzoo Yeah been through that at times. If speaking California, throw in an added 1-hour drive home. You just want to get home and crash, and hope the crash does not happen in the car before you make it home.
@mediocrebot@mycya4me so, a spiky fish, a smokey candle, and potted asparagus in a bedroom with an imitation four-poster? (I don’t think I’ve ever seen a separate bed canopy like this, or one that stops at the third quarter of the bed…)
@jsfs@mediocrebot@mycya4me Where’s the spiky fish? I think the thing on the bed is meant to be a bundle of lavender, as is the thing next to the smoking candle. Is that perhaps a sleep sounds machine inside the nightstand below?
@jsfs@mediocrebot@mycya4me@PooltoyWolf I agree, lavender. I’ve never quite understood why it’s supposed to be such a soporific scent, though - I like it well enough but it doesn’t smell relaxing to me.
@jsfs@Kyeh@mediocrebot@mycya4me@PooltoyWolf That much lavendar would give me a raging headache that would keep me from getting any sleep at all. Not that I can get any sleep with the covers stretch-tucked like that. The first thing I have to do when getting ready to sack out in a hotel room is yank the tucked stuff out along my side and across that half of the foot of the bed.
@jsfs@mediocrebot@PooltoyWolf
Has anyone tried one of those large Pink salt crystals, the ones that have a light inside that is to heat up & the Salt is to start giving off with Ions/ Smell ect… I got one & I found out the “Lite” in side is an LED, which is not known to get hot so all you have is pretty nite lite!
@jsfs@mediocrebot@mycya4me I have never seen any research that proves Himalayan salt lamps contribute anything other than light and heat to the surrounding ecology, to the point I believe it’s mostly marketing hokum. They sure do look nice, though! I’ve got a night light sized one in my bathroom.
@jsfs@mediocrebot@mycya4me@PooltoyWolf I have a globe-shaped one like this, and I agree - it’s just a pleasant soft light that I have by my bed because they say it’s good to have warm light before you go to sleep rather than blue light. I’m not even sure if that affects me but I like the look of it!
It’s honestly amazing just how many people (almost everybody?) have substantial problems falling/staying asleep… let alone getting enough sleep.
I know it’s not new new thing, but is it a fairly modern one with the revolution of electronics? (To be clear, I’m basically suggesting that TV was the start of that era.)
Some of the most effective natural sleep herbs would be melatonin, magnesium supplements, and chamomile, as they help you in regulating sleep patterns as well as induce calmness.
@macromeh@TimTaylor14 I keep forgetting that (GABA). I swear melatonin doesn’t work for me, or maybe it does but on a timing different than predicted. (like get sleepy many hours later). I believe it might be helpful for “jet lag” for the purpose of “resetting” but haven’t done any International trips for a long time.
As long as the brain weasels aren’t active, I get to sleep quickly. If they are, I need to get up and do something to chase them away. The solutions are situational.
@werehatrack I usually initially drop off within ~10 minutes of my head hitting the pillow. Going back to sleep after waking in the wee hours is another thing entirely.
@blaineg@werehatrack “brain weasels” brought to “mind” a Kurt Vonnegut book “Galapagos” I read when I was in high school. Here is an AI Overview I found (AI is getting scary because it parsed all this which is fairly accurate): Kurt Vonnegut’s novel Galapagos explores the idea that big brains are the cause of humanity’s problems and that removing knowledge from the equation would help humans return to a more natural place in the animal kingdom. Some of his ideas about big brains include:
Big brains are too large
Big brains are destructive
Big brains invent nuclear weapons
Big brains terrify the planet
Big brains are restless
Big brains demand constant amusement
The last 2 points help explain our sleep problems.
@pmarin@werehatrack You know the stereotype that the Japanese cannot pronounce “L”? It’s true. I worked closely with some Japanese customers for several years, and they always, always referred to me as Brain-san.
For some reason my cow-orkers found this extremely amusing.
@blaineg@werehatrack I like that! Yes I worked with Japanese people many times and yes I agree it’s true. No “L” in my name though.
My wife is Dutch (Holland, Netherlands, what do you really call their country anyway?) and to this day I cannot say “Keukenhof” and “Scheveningen” correctly. It is actually worse because I studied German (my mother’s native language, though Swiss-German which is a bit different). My wife says I pronounce those Dutch words like a German. Apparently (this appears to be true) this was a way of finding German agents/spies during WW-II. Talk about growing up in Scheveningen and seeing if they pronounce it like a German.
@blaineg@pmarin@werehatrack (My notes show that I actually got this one from somewhere here in the Meh forum. This happens more than I would have expected. In this case I actually copied it twice — once from Feb 2023, the other from Sept 2023. Since it’s been a year, I think I’m allowed to post it again?)
I usually put on a tv show or recording of one that I’ve seen a zillion time and when I shut eyes or my eye lids get heavy for the first time, turn off the TV. Don’t like to watch any new shows or news as I would have to concentrate on both and that would keep me awake.
@Felton10 I can ignore “the news” really easily since all of it got dressed up with fancy sets and talking heads that are basically meat emojis delivering the “content”. Because they are often shown on the pacifier monitors in waiting areas, I’ve sat through too many news programs that contained less than a minute of content that wasn’t engineered rage-stoking or fluffybunny crap.
@Felton10@werehatrack Another tip for good sleep. If you DO get up at 2 or 3 AM and watch TV, do NOT watch news. That is what I usually do, which I know is bad. If the news here is “stale” (from last night) I go to Sky News from England or other international sources. It’s not a good idea. Don’t do this!
I had heard that the first 30 minutes or so after waking, you are weaker in terms of building up your natural resistance to bad stuff going into your brain, so when in the semi-awake state it’s a direct route to mess up your brain. Later in the day after coffee or whatever substance and up for a few hours, you are better equipped to filter out stuff or take it as what it is.
@Felton10@pmarin@werehatrack Yeah, why don’t you put on Animal Planet?!
I get the NHK channel on cable (it’s connected to one of the PBS channels) and I often put that on when I just want something calming and pleasant to half-watch. They have lovely little stories about rural communities and people doing things the traditional way, crafting amazing things the way their great-grandparents did, cooking demos, “Bicycling in Japan” - just the most soothing programs. It does have brief news segments but then it’s back to something like “A Cat’s Eye View of Japan.”
I don’t watch the weekend sumo competitions though.
@Felton10@Kyeh@werehatrack wow, rabbit hole you led me to there. Go to the NHK global English site and search for “cats” — you get lots of 5-minute “A Cat’s Eye View of Japan” and also longer programs. One was a 30-minute program (watched part of it so far) about a “cat temple.” Cats and temples seem to go together. Both spiritual.
Domo Arigato for the hint. (See what I did there? cross-language reference)
Being tired and sleepy…
(It helps to turn everything off.)
@2many2no yep!
Drugs lots of drugs (rx of course)
@lonocat Yep that always works!
Working yourself mostly to death for an employer who doesn’t give a shit about you or your health.
When you’re exhausted every night, it’s pretty easy to fall asleep quickly.
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This information is for entertainment purposes only and is not intended to diagnose or treat any disease.
@xobzoo Way too true
@werehatrack @xobzoo Yeah been through that at times. If speaking California, throw in an added 1-hour drive home. You just want to get home and crash, and hope the crash does not happen in the car before you make it home.
@pmarin @werehatrack @xobzoo I knew someone that commuted from San Diego to LA. Insanity.
Listening to ASMR videos.
@chuckf1 Really? Got any suggestions? Pretty much every ASMR video I have heard sounds like LOUD whispering recorded with a bad microphone.
Knowing my alarm is set to go off in ten minutes.
Watching some Boring just before you want to go to bed
/showme the best sleep aid
@mediocrebot @mycya4me so, a spiky fish, a smokey candle, and potted asparagus in a bedroom with an imitation four-poster? (I don’t think I’ve ever seen a separate bed canopy like this, or one that stops at the third quarter of the bed…)
@jsfs @mediocrebot @mycya4me Where’s the spiky fish? I think the thing on the bed is meant to be a bundle of lavender, as is the thing next to the smoking candle. Is that perhaps a sleep sounds machine inside the nightstand below?
@jsfs @mediocrebot @mycya4me @PooltoyWolf I agree, lavender. I’ve never quite understood why it’s supposed to be such a soporific scent, though - I like it well enough but it doesn’t smell relaxing to me.
@jsfs @Kyeh @mediocrebot @mycya4me I was never terribly fond of the scent, and it likely wouldn’t help me sleep.
@jsfs @Kyeh @mediocrebot @mycya4me @PooltoyWolf That much lavendar would give me a raging headache that would keep me from getting any sleep at all. Not that I can get any sleep with the covers stretch-tucked like that. The first thing I have to do when getting ready to sack out in a hotel room is yank the tucked stuff out along my side and across that half of the foot of the bed.
@jsfs @mediocrebot @PooltoyWolf
Has anyone tried one of those large Pink salt crystals, the ones that have a light inside that is to heat up & the Salt is to start giving off with Ions/ Smell ect… I got one & I found out the “Lite” in side is an LED, which is not known to get hot so all you have is pretty nite lite!
@jsfs @mediocrebot @mycya4me I have never seen any research that proves Himalayan salt lamps contribute anything other than light and heat to the surrounding ecology, to the point I believe it’s mostly marketing hokum. They sure do look nice, though! I’ve got a night light sized one in my bathroom.
@jsfs @mediocrebot @mycya4me @PooltoyWolf I have a globe-shaped one like this, and I agree - it’s just a pleasant soft light that I have by my bed because they say it’s good to have warm light before you go to sleep rather than blue light. I’m not even sure if that affects me but I like the look of it!
@jsfs @Kyeh @mediocrebot @PooltoyWolf
Well mine is a Crystal, rough in shape!
@jsfs @mediocrebot @PooltoyWolf
I waited to I could get one at a Discount place. I got it cheap!
@jsfs @mediocrebot @mycya4me @PooltoyWolf I got mine at a deep discount too, when a store in town went out of business.
@jsfs @Kyeh @mediocrebot @PooltoyWolf sad!
/giphy booze
@Wookee Onslow!
Bob Ross video
@tricityladytn …happy little trees.
@pmarin @tricityladytn So glad all his shows are on YouTube.
It’s honestly amazing just how many people (almost everybody?) have substantial problems falling/staying asleep… let alone getting enough sleep.
I know it’s not new new thing, but is it a fairly modern one with the revolution of electronics? (To be clear, I’m basically suggesting that TV was the start of that era.)
I sleep with a small inflatable canine every night. Best sleep aid.
@PooltoyWolf, inflatable?
@kittykat9180 Like this! (Face reveal…maybe? Y’all have surely seen me before)
@PooltoyWolf, oh, so literally. I thought it was a typo but couldn’t figure out what you actually meant. Ha ha
@kittykat9180 I’m pretty well known around here for inflatables haha
Username does indeed check out, @PooltoyWolf
Several 7% IPAs. Usually Swami.
Sit down in front of a movie / TV show I’ve been wanting to see.
Some of the most effective natural sleep herbs would be melatonin, magnesium supplements, and chamomile, as they help you in regulating sleep patterns as well as induce calmness.
@TimTaylor14 I find that GABA works well, too.
@macromeh @TimTaylor14 I keep forgetting that (GABA). I swear melatonin doesn’t work for me, or maybe it does but on a timing different than predicted. (like get sleepy many hours later). I believe it might be helpful for “jet lag” for the purpose of “resetting” but haven’t done any International trips for a long time.
Routine. Wash up, change, read a little, and fall asleep and wake up at nearly the same time every day, even weekends. Works for me.
I can’t believe this wasn’t already here
Weed. Pot. Cannabis. Etc, etc.
would work).
Specifically Indica (the “9-lb Hammer” strain is fantastic for sleep - although I guess an actual
Sex. But if that not available then some valerian root tea.
@kittykat9180 Yep, nothing like a soothing release of endorphins.
For me simply getting horizontal works wonders.
As long as the brain weasels aren’t active, I get to sleep quickly. If they are, I need to get up and do something to chase them away. The solutions are situational.
@werehatrack I usually initially drop off within ~10 minutes of my head hitting the pillow. Going back to sleep after waking in the wee hours is another thing entirely.
@werehatrack
I’m stealing that.
@blaineg @werehatrack “brain weasels” brought to “mind” a Kurt Vonnegut book “Galapagos” I read when I was in high school. Here is an AI Overview I found (AI is getting scary because it parsed all this which is fairly accurate):
Kurt Vonnegut’s novel Galapagos explores the idea that big brains are the cause of humanity’s problems and that removing knowledge from the equation would help humans return to a more natural place in the animal kingdom. Some of his ideas about big brains include:
Big brains are too large
Big brains are destructive
Big brains invent nuclear weapons
Big brains terrify the planet
Big brains are restless
Big brains demand constant amusement
The last 2 points help explain our sleep problems.
@pmarin @werehatrack I love big brains, and I cannot lie.
@werehatrack To @blaineg, might I suggest the username @ braineg instead?
@pmarin @werehatrack You know the stereotype that the Japanese cannot pronounce “L”? It’s true. I worked closely with some Japanese customers for several years, and they always, always referred to me as Brain-san.
For some reason my cow-orkers found this extremely amusing.
@blaineg @werehatrack I like that! Yes I worked with Japanese people many times and yes I agree it’s true. No “L” in my name though.
My wife is Dutch (Holland, Netherlands, what do you really call their country anyway?) and to this day I cannot say “Keukenhof” and “Scheveningen” correctly. It is actually worse because I studied German (my mother’s native language, though Swiss-German which is a bit different). My wife says I pronounce those Dutch words like a German. Apparently (this appears to be true) this was a way of finding German agents/spies during WW-II. Talk about growing up in Scheveningen and seeing if they pronounce it like a German.
@blaineg @werehatrack
In Soviet Russia, brain weasels steal you!
(I have no idea if that makes falling asleep easier or harder.)
“Listening” to whatever it is my wife wants me to listen to but not offer advice or fix… Out cold in minutes!
A down pillow.
Or my chair in front of the computer.
@blaineg Both of those would work for a cat too. Wait, are you are cat?
@pmarin Possibly, how do I check?
@blaineg @pmarin Is your base philosophy “if I can’t eat it or shred it, I’ll sleep on it”?
@pmarin @werehatrack Not really, so maybe I’m not a cat after all.
@pmarin @werehatrack
@blaineg @pmarin @werehatrack
(My notes show that I actually got this one from somewhere here in the Meh forum. This happens more than I would have expected. In this case I actually copied it twice — once from Feb 2023, the other from Sept 2023. Since it’s been a year, I think I’m allowed to post it again?)
@blaineg @pmarin @werehatrack @xobzoo You probably got it from @narfcake.
I usually put on a tv show or recording of one that I’ve seen a zillion time and when I shut eyes or my eye lids get heavy for the first time, turn off the TV. Don’t like to watch any new shows or news as I would have to concentrate on both and that would keep me awake.
@Felton10 I can ignore “the news” really easily since all of it got dressed up with fancy sets and talking heads that are basically meat emojis delivering the “content”. Because they are often shown on the pacifier monitors in waiting areas, I’ve sat through too many news programs that contained less than a minute of content that wasn’t engineered rage-stoking or fluffybunny crap.
@Felton10 @werehatrack Luckily my dentist office usually has Animal Planet playing on the pacifier monitor (never heard that term but I like it).
@Felton10 @werehatrack Another tip for good sleep. If you DO get up at 2 or 3 AM and watch TV, do NOT watch news. That is what I usually do, which I know is bad. If the news here is “stale” (from last night) I go to Sky News from England or other international sources. It’s not a good idea. Don’t do this!
I had heard that the first 30 minutes or so after waking, you are weaker in terms of building up your natural resistance to bad stuff going into your brain, so when in the semi-awake state it’s a direct route to mess up your brain. Later in the day after coffee or whatever substance and up for a few hours, you are better equipped to filter out stuff or take it as what it is.
@Felton10 @pmarin @werehatrack Yeah, why don’t you put on Animal Planet?!
I get the NHK channel on cable (it’s connected to one of the PBS channels) and I often put that on when I just want something calming and pleasant to half-watch. They have lovely little stories about rural communities and people doing things the traditional way, crafting amazing things the way their great-grandparents did, cooking demos, “Bicycling in Japan” - just the most soothing programs. It does have brief news segments but then it’s back to something like “A Cat’s Eye View of Japan.”
I don’t watch the weekend sumo competitions though.
@Felton10 @Kyeh @werehatrack wow, rabbit hole you led me to there. Go to the NHK global English site and search for “cats” — you get lots of 5-minute “A Cat’s Eye View of Japan” and also longer programs. One was a 30-minute program (watched part of it so far) about a “cat temple.” Cats and temples seem to go together. Both spiritual.
Domo Arigato for the hint. (See what I did there? cross-language reference)
@Felton10 @pmarin @werehatrack Si, senor. Dō itashimashite!
I love the Cats Eye View programs.
@pmarin @werehatrack Did you see the cat islands? Here’s one, Aoshima: