Bad food?
3China is taking a lot of heat already, but I got an email today with a link to a Facebook (which I generally avoid) post by “Michelle Rumpf” on Feb. 19. The email came from a member of a group of college profs that are usually pretty on top of things. Article has me greatly concerned, reinforces some of my previous thoughts, but I don’t have time to thoroughly vet it. I wonder if any of the good Meh people here have any founded knowledge of the claims here.
Smithfield Farms, the largest pork producing farm in the USA was sold
recently to China with the unanimous support of its stockholders!! The
hogs will still be raised here, but slaughtered and packaged for sale
there before being sent back here. This includes labels of Morrell,
Eckrich, Krakus, Cudahy, Premium Hams, Cook’s, Gwaltney, The same with
many chickens. They can now be shipped there, but when they come back
all that needs to be labeled is that they WERE RAISED IN THE USA. Not
that they were processed in China!!! Our great FDA at work again. The
chickens will be all processed and most sold to fast food restaurants
for sandwiches, along with schools and supermarkets. The China
slaughter and processing are not nearly equal to the requirements
here.*BAD FOOD::: We recently learned that Starkist Tuna is now owned by Korea , and is in big conflict with the U. S. concerning quality,
safety, and records, which Korea refuses to produce. Read several
articles on Google about this, and even one that was defending the
eating of tilapia said to avoid the fish that came from China Also,I
had just returned home from buying Albertson’s 4-day special of 4 bags
of frozen tilapia for the price of one.? Sure enough, on the top of
the bags, it read “farm raised”, and on the bottom in small print it
said, " China "read all the way down…Recently a Food inspector on TV… said he had lived overseas and he
had seen the filthy conditions their foods are raised and processed
in. It is enough to make you throw up. Some foreign workers have to
wear masks as they work in these places, because the food is so rotten
and filthy, it makes them want to throw up. Many of their fish on Fish
Farms are fed raw sewage daily. He said he has seen so much filth
throughout their food growing and processing that he would “never” eat
any of it. They raise this filth, put some food coloring and some
flavorings on it, then they ship it to the USA & Canada for YOU to
consume and feed to YOUR families. They have no Food & Safety
Inspectors. They ship it to you to buy and poison your families and
friends .Imported food we eat and the junk we buy: Green Giant frozen
vegetables are from China, and so are most of Europe 's Best. Arctic
Gardens are Okay. So is Birdseye. Never buy the grocery store garlic
unless it is clearly marked from USA or Canada, the other stuff is
grown in people poop (even worse than chicken droppings). China is the
largest producer of garlic in the world; U. S. is next. Buy only local
honey *, much honey is shipped in huge containers from China and
re-packed here.Cold-FX is grown and packed in China and is full of fecal bacteria.
Doesn’t work anyway, big scam.If the country of origin is not clearly marked beware. If produce, ask
an employee.Watch out for packages which state “prepared for”, “packed by” or
“imported by”. We don’t understand the lack of mandatory labeling,
especially the produce.The country of origin should be clearly shown on the item in the
store.Go to the local farmers’ markets in season and keep a wary eye open
the rest of the year.Please read this very carefully, and read to the very bottom. It’s
important for all of us.How is it possible to ship food from China cheaper than having it
produced in the U. S. or Canada?FOR EXAMPLE THE “OUR FAMILY” BRAND OF MANDARIN ORANGES SAYS RIGHT ON
THE CAN 'FROM CHINA '. SO, FOR A FEW MORE CENTS, BUY THE LIBERTY
BRAND.GOLD BRAND OR THE DOLE IS FROM CALIFORNIA.
Beware, Costco sells canned peaches and pears in a plastic jar that
come from China.ALL “HIGH LINER” AND MOST OTHER FROZEN FISH PRODUCTS COME FROM CHINA
OR INDONESIA . THE PACKAGE MAY SAY “PACIFIC SALMON” ON THE FRONT, BUT
LOOK FOR THE SMALL PRINT. MOST OF THESE PRODUCTS COME FROM FISH FARMS
IN THE ORIENT WHERE THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS ON WHAT IS FED TO THESE
FISH.Recently The Montreal Gazette had an article by the Canadian
Government on how Chinese feed the fish: They suspend chicken wire
crates over the fish ponds, and the fish feed on chicken droppings.If you search the internet about what the Chinese feed their fish,
you’ll be alarmed; e. g, growth hormones, expired anti-biotic from
humans.? Never buy any type of fish or shellfish that comes from these
countries: Vietnam, China, Philippines.Check this out personally. Steinfeld’s Pickles are made in India -
just as bad! Another example is in canned mushrooms. No-Name brand
came from Indonesia .Also, check those little fruit cups. They used to be made in Canada in
the Niagara region until about 2 years ago. They are now packaged in
China. Most sold in Aldi stores.While the Chinese export inferior and even toxic products, dangerous
toys, and goods to be sold in North American markets, the media wrings
its hands! Yet, 70% of North Americans believe that the trading
privileges afforded to the Chinese should be suspended.Well, duh! Why do you need the government to suspend trading
privileges?SIMPLY DO IT YOURSELF, CANADA AND THE U. S.
Simply look on the bottom of every product you buy, and if it says
'Made in China ’ or ‘PRC’ (and that now includes Hong Kong ), simply
choose another product, or none at all. You will be amazed at how
dependent you are on Chinese products, and you will be equally amazed
at what you can do without.THINK ABOUT THIS:
If 200 million North Americans refuse to buy just $20 each of Chinese
goods, that’s a billion dollar trade imbalance resolved in our
favor…fast! The downside? Some Canadian/American businesses will
feel a temporary pinch from having foreign stockpiles of inventory.Just one month of trading losses will hit the Chinese for 8% of their
North American exports. Then they will at least have to ask themselves
if the benefits of their arrogance and lawlessness are worth it.START NOW and don’t stop and tell your friends.
Send this to everybody you know. Let’s show them that we are
intelligent, and NOBODY can take us for granted. Start reading labels more closely and buy something else even if it cost a few cents more.*
TL;DR
China is taking over our food industry, and feeding us crap.
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There have been a lot of warnings about food products sourced in china (and some about other locations). Garlic grown with human waste or sewage fertilizer was known years ago; also crawfish (very cajun sounding brand at Walmart is from china) grown in polluted ‘farms’. Don’t forget the tainted pet food that killed animals here.
I try to avoid food products from china on general principles, and make a point to complain to stores if a product I buy is ‘switched’; that happened with several products at the restaurant supply house we frequent; salmon and shrimp that used to be european or American sourced was suddenly coming out of china. They still carry the chinese stuff and I pay more elsewhere to get quality salmon and shrimp.
Maybe, just maybe, the current situation will have the US and other nations finally take a real and public critical review of china sourced products. There are some quality items and products made and produced there but there is way too much utter shit being sold as food and other items.
@duodec Certainly, on more than one occasion, pet food made in china has been recalled.
Are you saying they’re shipping live animals to the other side of the globe to be slaughtered? Are you sure that’s right? It doesn’t sound right.
@sammydog01 It kind of doesn’t. I’ve heard of situations where chinese concerns that buy plants/factories/etc will often start replacing the workers with chinese (there were recent stories about Italian high end leather product production going that route) but the economics of doing live animals out, processed meat back sounds iffy.
There are issues with chinese food production but the post @phendrick reposted seems to be a bit hyperbolic…
@sammydog01 Because it isn’t. While there are a few nuggets of truth in the original article, they are definitely not worth diving into the giant pile of bullshit to find. Just as a start, here’s the info from Smithfield Farms: http://www.smithfieldfoods.com/madeinusa
I can’t really comment on food coming from China, but I lived and worked in South Korea, and ate the food there. They meet or exceed the safety/cleanliness standards for USA imports. I would trust packaged food from SK as much as I would those from Canada or the UK.
As for chickens, we are an exporter of chickens to China. They stopped imports (from USA to China) for a while because of an avian flu. All of the major producers of fresh poultry products to restaurants, fast food, etc. raise (and process) chickens in the USA. There might be chicken in some dried or canned food products imported from China. I dunno, because I don’t buy them.
@rockblossom @sammydog01 thanks for the clarification on smithfield foods
Smithfield Farms was sold to the Chinese about 8 years ago. There is no profit in shipping live hogs halfway around the world for slaughter.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/smithfield-foods-china/
@cranky1950 Wow. This was huge acquisition.
@cranky1950 As we are discovering with things needed for the pandemic, having critical items/portions of (or all of) industries off shored can create problems. If there is ever WW3, depending on who is on which side, there may well be no need to drop a bomb. Just stop exports to us (and our allies) and shut down the companies they own in the USA (and in other countries that don’t care who owns critical assets).
@cranky1950 @Kidsandliz Exactly. “Thanks” to Wall Street putting profits first, shutting domestic production and relying on imported goods means that if the logistics fails, we’re SOL. I’m the current crisis, even for domestic production, the non-woven material used to make N95 masks are imported. And no thanks to someone, China isn’t exactly the USA’s friend.
Electronics? Nearly every component needed are manufactured elsewhere. Even the simple light bulb; why manufacturer incandescent bulbs in the USA, in a factory that wasn’t upgraded for decades, that sells for 99 cents when we can shut it down, buy someone else’s product for even less, and charge consumers $6 for it? It’s great for the company’s bottom line!
Thanks for the info & reassurances, mehtizens.
@phendrick
Sorry to do this to any of you who have never seen this before… but stuff done here in the U.S. isn’t exactly squeaky-clean and wholesome either. I’m far from an activist, just a regular meat-eating-but-let’s-not-be-nasty-or-cruel-about-it kinda guy. I stumbled across this video a couple years ago. This is just a few hours from where I live! Turns out most of the warm-n-fuzzy labels on eggs are super misleading. Cage-free means no vertical dividers, but same cramped quarters. Free-roaming means they have “access” to the outside, but the openings are inlets for the huge ventilation fans causing storm force winds which the chickens can’t overcome. Vegetarian-fed is unnatural, they need protein (yes, worms and bugs) else they peck at each other. Even "organic’ isn’t that great.
Only solution is buying local from very small farms (the kind that knows their chickens by name). Or next best is buying eggs labelled Pasture-Raised and researching the farm to make sure they’re honest. If the yolk is a rich, saturated orange, you’re on to something. I"ve avoided nasty eggs ever since seeing this. Even if you’re somehow ok with these practices, pasture-raised eggs taste a hundred times better.
@jester747 Yes. I grew up with chickens that were allowed to roam free in the daytime, or herded into the garden to do bug patrol, before returning to their house at night. I will only buy eggs from pasture-raised or free-range hens, and their yolks are a deep orange. If the store is out, I don’t buy eggs. There’s a brand sold here that is also from a mix of chicken varieties, so a carton of eggs usually has brown, white, speckled, and blue-green ones.
@rockblossom Ditto. Except, I’ve gotten suspicious “Free-range” ones.
Also, forgot to mention before, those packs of brown eggs are no different than white-shelled eggs, it’s just another marketing tactic.
@jester747 We keep our own chickens, so we have a good supply of fresh eggs with known provenance - usually enough for our own use, some to give to family and the occasional donation to the local food bank.