@Kidsandliz Well there was that suggestion from a few weeks back about having two fridges, each storing batteries that were wired to power the other fridge… It’s a recursive, circular type of fridge-battery thing. Probably not suitable for a family website.
I’ve been buying a lot of silver lately, and even some gold. Not because I think the world’s gonna come to an end, though. Just because it’s fun! There’s nothing like the feel of a heavy silver coin in your hand. Plus, the history and geography I’m learning is pretty neat.
If the world comes to an end, I’ll be too devote to my 1931 Latvian 5 Lati coin to ever trade it for bread. So…don’t come to my house when TSHF.
Here’s where I would post a clip of Alex Keaton identifying a handful of coins by ear, from the “A, My Name is Alex” episode of Family Ties, if I could find one
What about accidental prepping? Like if you don’t actually have a bug out bag and a year’s supply of nonperishable food with a specific plan of "this is for the zombie apocalypse”, but you totally have all that stuff and more just in case. So you’re also prepared for the tool apocalypse, the craft apocalypse, the CD and DVD apocalypse, the clothes that used to fit/be in style apocalypse, and even the prophesied Great Kitchen Gadget Uprising of 2024. You’re just not prepped to be able to retrieve any of those particular items on demand.
@djslack the term you are looking for is hoarding, not prepping. But I think I’m prepared for a few of those too. Plus the clothes that fit 20 years ago and someday lll get in them again apocalypse. I mean hoard.
I keep natural disaster/weather prep kits around. They have that delicious mountain house beef stroganoff, some bottle water, canned food etc. Something to keep you going if a sharknado hits.
Hey meh, please put some moutain house on sale, it seems to vanish before any actual natural disasters occur.
@cranky1950 I just tried to find out if there is some other entity other than Latter Day Saints to which the acronym LDS would apply. In doing so, I learned that, 1) no, not really, and 2) the Latter Day Saints really are into prepping.
This information has not really affected the quality of my evening, or even blown my mind in any substantial sense. I mention it only because there isn’t anyone here stopping me from doing so, and also because it’s a bit of a slow night.
We’ve had three multi-day powerouts in the past month. (We live in the Northeast.)
I always have 10 gallons of gas in two cans, a full tank in the generator, the cables I have to run around the house coiled and color-coded and 50 gallons of Poland Spring in those huge bottles. That’s just for normal storm preparation.
As for serious prepping…lesseee…I feed my pets well for a cheap alternative to bootleg meat in case of food shortages? Not much beyond that.
There needs to be a “I’ve strongly considered making a couple bugout bags but never got around to it” choice between “suburban dad” and “krugerrands” because that’s about where I am.
I used to care more than I do now. I’m not all that sure that I want to survive the next cataclysm. I still have sensible preparations (including some water). I have enough of the essentials for three days (at least, but three days is the minimum).
If it’s truly the end of civilization, gold and silver won’t get you nearly as far as food and water, nor will it buy you any of the essentials.
Coffee and chocolate are essentials in my world; I know how to make sugar from sugar beets (not easy, but certainly possible).
A serious and useful book for those actually considering self-sufficiency is “The Encyclopedia of Country Living” by Carla Emory (R.I.P.). I own three different editions of it.
Hey, I know one of her kids! She and her husband do an off-grid YouTube channel by the name Fouch-o-Magic or something like that. I love their bike-powered washing machine…
@uninflammable - I used to work with a guy into prepping and I know because he talked about it ALL the time. He wouldn’t even drink tap water, he made his own drinking water. Did .50 caliber shooting competitively.
After hurricane Sandy I went through a prepping period, but couldn’t keep up with the expiration dates.
@aetris Expiration dates? Bah! Just another scam from the food industrial complex. I still have some Spam on the shelves from Y2K! (And I bet it is just as appealing now as when it was canned. )
I live waaaay in the boonies. Always prepped here. My husband was big on getting more stuff than I could find storage for. I could probably survive a year long siege here. My main concern would be the toilet paper supply.
I’m a city boy. If the shit hits the fan, I’m either gonna be among the first to die anyway, or I’ll be part of the people trying deal with all the survivors trying to seek shelter among us. Just depends on what the shit that hits the fan is.
Honestly, for most potential apocalypse scenarios, I think the city is the place to be. We’ve got infrastructure, civil services, lots of places to put people, and a society used to dealing with being around a bunch of other people. The only exceptions are nuclear war (we’d be the first to go), or an insanely infectious disease outbreak (close quarters, so easy to get infected).
@sanspoint I fear the influences of film, television and literature will lead the populace to believe anarchy is the expected reaction. As an example, I point to the looting which typically accompanies rioting and natural disaster. People may react and behave in the fashion they’ve been repeatedly exposed to.
In this case, avoiding others would offer the best possibility of safety and success. Wilderness and rural areas.
@ruouttaurmind@sanspoint - I USED to be a city boy and knew lots of wonderful people who would be great to call on in an emergency. Unfortunately I had occasional run-ins with people who were not so wonderful, and it doesn’t take more than one to ruin your day. Anyway I don’t think looting has much to do with pop culture.
In theory cities are transportation hubs and receive reliable resource deliveries, but we’ve found more choices at better prices in the 'burbs. Just based on winter storms I’d be a little iffy about urban infrastructure dealing effectively with extreme emergency situations.
On a semi-related subject, I always found the movie Witness irritating - Lancaster County produces (some of) the food, lumber, clothing, and other goods Philly consumes - Paradise is the real world, Philly is (a kind of) fantasy land. And I’ve only ever heard of anyone picking on Amish kids once!
Anyway I don’t think looting has much to do with pop culture.
I’m not necessarily referring pop culture, but rather television news coverage of looting. I don’t reject the idea this desensitizes people and possibly plants the notion that looting is just what you’re supposed to do.
@ruouttaurmind - I’m afraid I see television news as a subcategory of entertainment, and therefore pop culture. I’m willing to acknowledge that it does serve as a kind of announcement that the looting’s going on for anyone who wants to join in, though.
@Seeds
re: future crazy people reading this: I’m also into traps and good enough with them to not be worried about warning you. Barter with me, no stealings.
Are you familiar with the practice of stocking fish antibiotics? Much less expensive than pharmacy scripts, and in most cases the same chemical compounds. Although I doubt the fish antibiotics are manufactured with the same standards of cleanliness as the pharmacy stuff, but surely better than nothing, and you can order them online from Amz and Walmart without any kind of script.
Even if only used for barter, I suppose there would be great value there after the… whatever event.
Its funny how often discussion of prepping gets shuffled off into TEOTWAWKI or apocalypse or zombies or whatever, but what folks should really be doing is being ready for that bad storm that knocks out power and maybe water for days to a couple of weeks, or in many areas, an earthquake. No need to be stupid about it or go into debt. If you’ve got a little extra room and a little extra cash its pretty easy.
Some shelf stable food (cans of soup/veggies/stew), a sack of rice, a way to cook ($20 butane cassette burner and $10 for fuel cans), and a few cases of bottled water. Boom, you’re better prepared than 70-80% of the population.
Cold area, think about a Mr Heater, a couple bottles of propane, and a couple of blankets. Get them on clearance (like right now).
Got room for it and can store gas, generators start under $100 for one that can at least drive a fridge or a freezer, or some lights and a fan (you’ll also need a good extension cord of appropriate length). Bigger budget and/or can’t store gas, get a propane genset and run it off a BBQ bottle. The fuel won’t go bad and maintenance is much reduced. And you save all your fridge/freezer food.
@duodec - Your remarks should be the start of a very enlightening conversation, especially after what our fellow MEH-ers went through in Texas last year. FWIW my experience was superstorm Sandy, which left us without power for a week - we went on vacation and cleaned up when we got home. Relatives of ours recently had a fire at their housing complex and wound up having to deal with insurance, were lucky to have their pets found since they didn’t have any ‘pet inside’ sticker on their front door, and have been living with the in-laws for a couple weeks. Talk about needing survival skills…
@aetris Thats where things get a little more complicated. Nobody can prep for everything. And it takes space and lots of money to prep for many of the possible but increasingly unlikely things. So you do a scale of most likely to least. For me, not being in a tornado or hurricane zone, and low probability of a damaging quake (unless its the big one someday) it goes something like this:
1 - loss of power/heat/water for more than 1 days (because we’ll lose freezer/fridge food in 24 hours-ish)
2- event causes trapped or confined to home for a few days (flood or really bad storm) with possible impact on power and water, or if mobile not able to get food/water for any reason (like stores stripped and unable to restock quickly)
3 - event extends to 7 or more days
4 - event requires us to leave our home (hopefully by our own vehicle(s); we do not let tanks go below 1/2 normally, but don’t store gas at home due to code.
5 - event requires leaving home in a hurry, no time to pack up more than a little
6 - event requires leaving home in other transport (rescue/fema bus/oh shit), probably in a hurry and with tight limits on possessions. This might also be a wrecked home situation where you can’t get your most needed possessions regardless.
7 - things get really bad from this point on. Need a boat to get out, or are on foot, or a quake, or fires…
Somewhere around 4 or 5 for us, (for someone in storm areas that would be a lower number) would be where you consider where you’re going to (if its not a forced move to a FEMA tent city). Whether that’s a friend or relative, a vacation home, a hotel far enough away from the event, or your hidden bug out bunker… starts getting pricey and pre-planning is important.
We’re ready for 1 or 2 and could do a creditable job for 2 weeks on 3 (though if alternate bathroom facilities are needed, they’ll be unpleasant by then), and maybe a little beyond (depends on water, and a little bit on the season).
We need plan for 4. Got usable stuff but not staged; it in the kitchen and pantry. We still need to put together go-bags; we have starts on that but not the real thing.
No go on 5. If given 5-10 minutes to grab stuff and leave it would be a cluster-bleep.
No go on higher. If we’d been in Texas and had to get rescued by the Cajun Navy we’d have been badly flustered and not doing well, I expect.
Our worst case so far was a ~2.5 day event between stage 1 and 2. Really heavy snow and area power outage; it took a couple of days for the big plows to clear to our street, and the nearby stores were crippled by the power outage and lack of deliveries for a couple of days. We had non-utility light, heat, food, and city water, our pipes didn’t freeze and the generator kept the fridge/freezer food good and let us charge the phones and ipad and hotspot (cable was out too) so we had internet and comms. Not too shabby.
@Seeds Gold is shiny, doesn’t tarnish, is very rare, and you can make stuff out of it to show everyone else how much shiny rare stuff you have and they don’t. Chicks dig gold, and hence the term.
@Seeds Did you mean bitcoin or bitcoin-gold, or actual gold for the second option?
Gold will always have some value for a lot of people unless there’s a total collapse (and even then for a few). So its potential trading fodder towards something useful. And its a lot more compact (if heavy) compared to bulk toilet paper, which might otherwise be great trade fodder!
@Seeds Because they’re not thinking straight, or they’re being very optimistic about things turning around, or they’ve always wanted it, or they think since you’re offering that it might still have value as trading fodder for them, or… who knows? I just expect that there would be folks who don’t appreciate the gravity of a bad situation and would trade their precious viands for lumps of pretty gold metal…
My fridge is stocked up with batteries. Does that count?
@shahnm You’d also need a generator and gas to keep the fridge going… so no it doesn’t count unless you do that too.
@Kidsandliz Well there was that suggestion from a few weeks back about having two fridges, each storing batteries that were wired to power the other fridge… It’s a recursive, circular type of fridge-battery thing. Probably not suitable for a family website.
I’ve been buying a lot of silver lately, and even some gold. Not because I think the world’s gonna come to an end, though. Just because it’s fun! There’s nothing like the feel of a heavy silver coin in your hand. Plus, the history and geography I’m learning is pretty neat.
If the world comes to an end, I’ll be too devote to my 1931 Latvian 5 Lati coin to ever trade it for bread. So…don’t come to my house when TSHF.
@UncleVinny
@UncleVinny Silver coins also make a delightful sound on a hard surface; not like the dull clank a clad coin makes
@duodec so true! I’ve been buying a variety of junk silver coins because they all sound different when they click against each other.
Here’s where I would post a clip of Alex Keaton identifying a handful of coins by ear, from the “A, My Name is Alex” episode of Family Ties, if I could find one
What about accidental prepping? Like if you don’t actually have a bug out bag and a year’s supply of nonperishable food with a specific plan of "this is for the zombie apocalypse”, but you totally have all that stuff and more just in case. So you’re also prepared for the tool apocalypse, the craft apocalypse, the CD and DVD apocalypse, the clothes that used to fit/be in style apocalypse, and even the prophesied Great Kitchen Gadget Uprising of 2024. You’re just not prepped to be able to retrieve any of those particular items on demand.
@djslack the term you are looking for is hoarding, not prepping. But I think I’m prepared for a few of those too. Plus the clothes that fit 20 years ago and someday lll get in them again apocalypse. I mean hoard.
I keep natural disaster/weather prep kits around. They have that delicious mountain house beef stroganoff, some bottle water, canned food etc. Something to keep you going if a sharknado hits.
Hey meh, please put some moutain house on sale, it seems to vanish before any actual natural disasters occur.
@thismyusername Mountain House is so much better than that crap from Wise Foods. And much more convenient to prepare.
This county boy can survive.
@hchavers County boy…? Hmmm… Are you Luke or Bo?
@hchavers @shahnm
I think the ruggedness hierarchy goes like this:
@awk @hchavers @shahnm Where’s Rambo on that list?
@awk @hchavers I think I’m couch boy…
@shahnm why do I attempt to respond on my phone?
We visit the LDS a couple of times a year. Order from the website too.
@cranky1950 I just tried to find out if there is some other entity other than Latter Day Saints to which the acronym LDS would apply. In doing so, I learned that, 1) no, not really, and 2) the Latter Day Saints really are into prepping.
This information has not really affected the quality of my evening, or even blown my mind in any substantial sense. I mention it only because there isn’t anyone here stopping me from doing so, and also because it’s a bit of a slow night.
I do quite like Laura Prepon…
@curtise Her name always sounded like some product in the “feminine products” aisle of the drug store.
@curtise @droopus Laura?
@curtise @shahnm “That’s right, all new PREPON - in the discreet magenta box, complete with applicators. No one has to know but you.”
@curtise :
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@curtise I did when the show was on, but the last time I saw her (Castle, I think) she was a bit too polished and, something.
Jackie, however, aged well.
@craigthom @curtise
She did a stint in the Club Fed cathouse too.
@mike808 oh snap. I knew she looked familiar
We’ve had three multi-day powerouts in the past month. (We live in the Northeast.)
I always have 10 gallons of gas in two cans, a full tank in the generator, the cables I have to run around the house coiled and color-coded and 50 gallons of Poland Spring in those huge bottles. That’s just for normal storm preparation.
As for serious prepping…lesseee…I feed my pets well for a cheap alternative to bootleg meat in case of food shortages? Not much beyond that.
Unprepared.
Showing I’m closer to @djslack than @unclevinny, I had to look it up:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krugerrand
There needs to be a “I’ve strongly considered making a couple bugout bags but never got around to it” choice between “suburban dad” and “krugerrands” because that’s about where I am.
@awk :
I used to care more than I do now. I’m not all that sure that I want to survive the next cataclysm. I still have sensible preparations (including some water). I have enough of the essentials for three days (at least, but three days is the minimum).
If it’s truly the end of civilization, gold and silver won’t get you nearly as far as food and water, nor will it buy you any of the essentials.
Coffee and chocolate are essentials in my world; I know how to make sugar from sugar beets (not easy, but certainly possible).
A serious and useful book for those actually considering self-sufficiency is “The Encyclopedia of Country Living” by Carla Emory (R.I.P.). I own three different editions of it.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1570618402/
Hey, I know one of her kids! She and her husband do an off-grid YouTube channel by the name Fouch-o-Magic or something like that. I love their bike-powered washing machine…
I keep a few somewhat charged power banks around, and there’s usually some spare water in the toilet tanks.
Anyone talking openly about the prepping they do isn’t paranoid enough to be a real pepper
@uninflammable The first rule of prep club is don’t talk about prep club?
@uninflammable - I used to work with a guy into prepping and I know because he talked about it ALL the time. He wouldn’t even drink tap water, he made his own drinking water. Did .50 caliber shooting competitively.
After hurricane Sandy I went through a prepping period, but couldn’t keep up with the expiration dates.
@aetris Expiration dates? Bah! Just another scam from the food industrial complex. I still have some Spam on the shelves from Y2K! (And I bet it is just as appealing now as when it was canned.
)
@macromeh - That was from before I had a dog.
@uninflammable
@sligett - Did you find out who THIS is:
@aetris No, I didn’t see that image in my search. Who is it?
@sligett - Preppy Prepper Preppington? It’s what came up for ME under preppy prepper.
@aetris @sligett
Why, it’s Preppy McPreppypants, of course.
@aetris @mike808 Obviously.
How about
Survival skills, a bit of extra water, a manual can opener, and a full propane tank
@CaptAmehrican You forgot your Chef Boyardee
I live waaaay in the boonies. Always prepped here. My husband was big on getting more stuff than I could find storage for. I could probably survive a year long siege here. My main concern would be the toilet paper supply.
@lseeber - We’ll let you know the next time they’re selling the bidets.
Nah thanks. Just can’t wrap my… mind, around that.
I’m a city boy. If the shit hits the fan, I’m either gonna be among the first to die anyway, or I’ll be part of the people trying deal with all the survivors trying to seek shelter among us. Just depends on what the shit that hits the fan is.
Honestly, for most potential apocalypse scenarios, I think the city is the place to be. We’ve got infrastructure, civil services, lots of places to put people, and a society used to dealing with being around a bunch of other people. The only exceptions are nuclear war (we’d be the first to go), or an insanely infectious disease outbreak (close quarters, so easy to get infected).
@sanspoint I fear the influences of film, television and literature will lead the populace to believe anarchy is the expected reaction. As an example, I point to the looting which typically accompanies rioting and natural disaster. People may react and behave in the fashion they’ve been repeatedly exposed to.
In this case, avoiding others would offer the best possibility of safety and success. Wilderness and rural areas.
@ruouttaurmind @sanspoint - I USED to be a city boy and knew lots of wonderful people who would be great to call on in an emergency. Unfortunately I had occasional run-ins with people who were not so wonderful, and it doesn’t take more than one to ruin your day. Anyway I don’t think looting has much to do with pop culture.
In theory cities are transportation hubs and receive reliable resource deliveries, but we’ve found more choices at better prices in the 'burbs. Just based on winter storms I’d be a little iffy about urban infrastructure dealing effectively with extreme emergency situations.
On a semi-related subject, I always found the movie Witness irritating - Lancaster County produces (some of) the food, lumber, clothing, and other goods Philly consumes - Paradise is the real world, Philly is (a kind of) fantasy land. And I’ve only ever heard of anyone picking on Amish kids once!
@aetris
I’m not necessarily referring pop culture, but rather television news coverage of looting. I don’t reject the idea this desensitizes people and possibly plants the notion that looting is just what you’re supposed to do.
@ruouttaurmind - I’m afraid I see television news as a subcategory of entertainment, and therefore pop culture. I’m willing to acknowledge that it does serve as a kind of announcement that the looting’s going on for anyone who wants to join in, though.
@aetris @ruouttaurmind
You forget the ratings-driven alarmist propaganda that fuels them.
Antibiotics. Lots of antibiotics.
@Seeds
re: future crazy people reading this: I’m also into traps and good enough with them to not be worried about warning you. Barter with me, no stealings.
@Seeds
Are you familiar with the practice of stocking fish antibiotics? Much less expensive than pharmacy scripts, and in most cases the same chemical compounds. Although I doubt the fish antibiotics are manufactured with the same standards of cleanliness as the pharmacy stuff, but surely better than nothing, and you can order them online from Amz and Walmart without any kind of script.
Even if only used for barter, I suppose there would be great value there after the… whatever event.
@ruouttaurmind yes
yes, but not for, like, actual disasters. we stockpiled hard drives in 2011, for example. now it’s ddr4.
I have a gasoline-fuel generator beside my house for charging phones and stuff. I also drive it.
Its funny how often discussion of prepping gets shuffled off into TEOTWAWKI or apocalypse or zombies or whatever, but what folks should really be doing is being ready for that bad storm that knocks out power and maybe water for days to a couple of weeks, or in many areas, an earthquake. No need to be stupid about it or go into debt. If you’ve got a little extra room and a little extra cash its pretty easy.
Some shelf stable food (cans of soup/veggies/stew), a sack of rice, a way to cook ($20 butane cassette burner and $10 for fuel cans), and a few cases of bottled water. Boom, you’re better prepared than 70-80% of the population.
Cold area, think about a Mr Heater, a couple bottles of propane, and a couple of blankets. Get them on clearance (like right now).
Got room for it and can store gas, generators start under $100 for one that can at least drive a fridge or a freezer, or some lights and a fan (you’ll also need a good extension cord of appropriate length). Bigger budget and/or can’t store gas, get a propane genset and run it off a BBQ bottle. The fuel won’t go bad and maintenance is much reduced. And you save all your fridge/freezer food.
There you go, you prepper you.
@duodec - Your remarks should be the start of a very enlightening conversation, especially after what our fellow MEH-ers went through in Texas last year. FWIW my experience was superstorm Sandy, which left us without power for a week - we went on vacation and cleaned up when we got home. Relatives of ours recently had a fire at their housing complex and wound up having to deal with insurance, were lucky to have their pets found since they didn’t have any ‘pet inside’ sticker on their front door, and have been living with the in-laws for a couple weeks. Talk about needing survival skills…
@aetris Thats where things get a little more complicated. Nobody can prep for everything. And it takes space and lots of money to prep for many of the possible but increasingly unlikely things. So you do a scale of most likely to least. For me, not being in a tornado or hurricane zone, and low probability of a damaging quake (unless its the big one someday) it goes something like this:
1 - loss of power/heat/water for more than 1 days (because we’ll lose freezer/fridge food in 24 hours-ish)
2- event causes trapped or confined to home for a few days (flood or really bad storm) with possible impact on power and water, or if mobile not able to get food/water for any reason (like stores stripped and unable to restock quickly)
3 - event extends to 7 or more days
4 - event requires us to leave our home (hopefully by our own vehicle(s); we do not let tanks go below 1/2 normally, but don’t store gas at home due to code.
5 - event requires leaving home in a hurry, no time to pack up more than a little
6 - event requires leaving home in other transport (rescue/fema bus/oh shit), probably in a hurry and with tight limits on possessions. This might also be a wrecked home situation where you can’t get your most needed possessions regardless.
7 - things get really bad from this point on. Need a boat to get out, or are on foot, or a quake, or fires…
Somewhere around 4 or 5 for us, (for someone in storm areas that would be a lower number) would be where you consider where you’re going to (if its not a forced move to a FEMA tent city). Whether that’s a friend or relative, a vacation home, a hotel far enough away from the event, or your hidden bug out bunker… starts getting pricey and pre-planning is important.
We’re ready for 1 or 2 and could do a creditable job for 2 weeks on 3 (though if alternate bathroom facilities are needed, they’ll be unpleasant by then), and maybe a little beyond (depends on water, and a little bit on the season).
We need plan for 4. Got usable stuff but not staged; it in the kitchen and pantry. We still need to put together go-bags; we have starts on that but not the real thing.
No go on 5. If given 5-10 minutes to grab stuff and leave it would be a cluster-bleep.
No go on higher. If we’d been in Texas and had to get rescued by the Cajun Navy we’d have been badly flustered and not doing well, I expect.
Our worst case so far was a ~2.5 day event between stage 1 and 2. Really heavy snow and area power outage; it took a couple of days for the big plows to clear to our street, and the nearby stores were crippled by the power outage and lack of deliveries for a couple of days. We had non-utility light, heat, food, and city water, our pipes didn’t freeze and the generator kept the fridge/freezer food good and let us charge the phones and ipad and hotspot (cable was out too) so we had internet and comms. Not too shabby.
Interesting that the ONE WORD always associated with prepping is completely missing in this thread.
The sudden trending in ‘Prepper’ is dog-whistle for NRA-sponsored racist propaganda in reaction to March for Our Lives.
Don’t fall for it.
And keep a closer eye on that Mediocrebot. It’s been hanging out with some Russian bots it seems. It is no coincidence this poll was posed today
Could that word be… Spam?
@aetris
@mike808 - Just getting a broken link.
@mike808 - Got it! Protein bars.
For the financial system. Someone DID mention gold, though.
@aetris Panel #3. Batteries (no refrigerator, suck it, @shahnm, you are SOL when the SHTF), flashlight, and gold coins.
Serious question for preppers- why bitcoins/gold coins? Seems like a speculative currency would be near the bottom of the list of things you’d want.
@Seeds Gold is shiny, doesn’t tarnish, is very rare, and you can make stuff out of it to show everyone else how much shiny rare stuff you have and they don’t. Chicks dig gold, and hence the term.
Gold is the OG penis enlargement.
Proof for all of the above:
@Seeds Did you mean bitcoin or bitcoin-gold, or actual gold for the second option?
Gold will always have some value for a lot of people unless there’s a total collapse (and even then for a few). So its potential trading fodder towards something useful. And its a lot more compact (if heavy) compared to bulk toilet paper, which might otherwise be great trade fodder!
@duodec Actual gold. Why would people value it if they were actually in a “society is fucked” situation?
@Seeds Because they’re not thinking straight, or they’re being very optimistic about things turning around, or they’ve always wanted it, or they think since you’re offering that it might still have value as trading fodder for them, or… who knows? I just expect that there would be folks who don’t appreciate the gravity of a bad situation and would trade their precious viands for lumps of pretty gold metal…