These look pretty sweet! I already have a 55L pack, which is enough for the Cub Scout trips I take my son on… but the 20L might be nice… is it actually a size of pack that an adult might wear? What is the use-case for it?
@123abc988 given the pretty specific and fairly limited washing instructions, the price seems justified. This isn’t for some fly by night wash everything in hot type - you need to be committed to hand washing as “Washing machine is not available” and then, make sure to “Please hanging dry in the shade”.
@sanman9781 One of my biggest problems with buying a backpack ‘sight unseen’ (i.e. on-line) is that the dimensions are sort of like the lumen counts for light bulbs and seem to totally arbitrary. Doing the math above, the 30L is only about 15% bigger than the 20L. Which begs the question, are the above dimensions wrong, or are the packs so weirdly rounded as to make the numbers useless for comparison?
(and don’t even get me started on whether they are actually anywhere near 20L and 30L volumes…)
The volume capacity is probably akin to refrigerator, car interior, or trunk space volume measurements - fill it to every single nook and cranny and that’s its volume. Actual usable space is a different story, of course.
Here’s what i could find, note website listed as Northpoleltd is for sale and the US 800 numb is for an investment firm. But at least we get some history of the alpine design.
Most recently, the name “Alpine Design” has been used by The Sports Authority for its house-brand camping gear. Sports Authority Alpine Design tents are manufactured by NorthPole USA. Other Alpine Design products made be made by other companies.
Originally, Alpine Design of Boulder, Colo., was named Alp Sport, which was founded by George Lamb in the 1960s. Lamb sold Alpine Design to General Recreation, Inc. of Ithaca, N.Y., took a break, then created his final outdoor company, Camp 7. Lamb was known for his innovative sleeping bag designs.
NorthPole, a multinational company based in Hong Kong, is the largest tent manufacturer in the world.
Consumer service lines:
(800) 366-1599 (U.S.)= Number is for some investment co.
(800) 625-8772 (Canada)
fax: (636) 390-5798
Monday-Friday, 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. Central Standard Time
(allow 24-48 hours for a response during the summer season)
23 Town and Country Drive
Washington, MO 63090
NorthPole manufactures tents for a variety of brands. However, not every tent sold under the brands below is made by NorthPole. If a tent is a NorthPole tent, its manual, tag on the inside of the tent, and carry bag will indicate it is a NorthPole product.
Tent brands currently manufactured and supported by NorthPole include:
Field & Stream (Dick’s Sporting Goods)
Terra Gear (Canada)
Please note: In many cases, NorthPole is not the only manufacturer that produced and/or still produces gear under these names. NorthPole can only provide customer service for tents that are NorthPole products (look on your tent’s manual, tag on the inside of the tent, and/or carry bag for information)
Hope this helps you decide how to carry your candy corn.
@chienfou Back in the early days of the Internet my sister was looking for some sports gear for her son and decided to look at prices on Dicks.com… needless to say, that was not the type of gear she was searching for . (Dicks sporting goods has since obtained that domain and it now redirects to their site.)
Alpine Designs used to be a premium brand many years ago (I used to take people camping, etc. for a living). The guy who founded this company, sold it, founded Camp 7, I believe sold that… I recall that they went downhill some after they were sold. I wouldn’t necessarily trust the backpacking one on a long trip until you have tested it on a weekend trip to see if it is comfortable or not. That it is adjustable is a plus, although usually the better brands also make several sizes and then they are adjustable within each size.
A good backpacking one is several hundred dollars so this is a bargain in comparison, presuming you find it comfortable - and comfort can vary by the amount of junk you put in it (thus the weight and how you distribute it). I wouldn’t buy the backpacking one for a kid unless said kid is at least around 5’2" simply because last I knew usually backpacks for “adults” presume you are at least that tall and they make a scaled down one for kids (and adults shorter than that - in which case you win as they are cheaper but not “cheapened”). On the other hand if the kid is only hiking a couple of miles it is likely irrelevant unless they are a lot shorter.
One mistake people make is thinking, well I’ll only use it to backpack once a year so a cheap one is fine. The draw back is that the expensive ones are generally more comfortable and that does make a difference in the pleasure you can have on a trip due to comfort. Looking at the pictures I’d suspect this is not a bottom of the barrel one, but it isn’t a top of the line one either. For the price it is better than what you could buy at a Walmart equivalent type store. And if you hate it you likely could resell it (and break even) on craigslist to a family with kids who are scouts.
So, @skemmehs , if you don’t mind me asking, what takes you to Hong Kong? Do Meh buyers travel the globe searching for great deals, or are you a remote employee? I certainly hope it’s the former, but I’m impressed either way!