@yakkoTDI Finally done. That was serious.

@mcemanuel I also bought them last time. Didn’t notice the gas, and I disagree that they’re “pretty good”. I have managed to eat maybe 5.

@wineplus or the endless knives!

@wineplus these too shall pass

@wineplus @lonocat Yeah, they’ll pass through my colon.

@wineplus what we need is some wireless bluetooth speakers

Lots of products ruined with sucralose nastiness pass me the snickers!

@vastomers Me, I get optional migraines from sweeteners. I eat sugar and I’m fine, but artificial sweet stuff in any great quantity, and hello screwed up vision in migraines that aren’t painful, but are still very disturbing.

Hard hard pass.

@vastomers I think actual blindness is a bit of a stretch, as is referring to sucralose as a ‘poison’.

@EvilSmoo @vastomers If your migraines are optional, then opt not to have them.

@vastomers There seemed to be a link (as there is this time) to the nutritional information which includes the ingredients. If someone was susceptible to blindness from sucralose, I’d expect them to be on the lookout for what artificial sweeteners are used in a product that touts zero added sugar and 3g net carbs, and click that link.

@vastomers From the Mayo Clinic:

"Health benefits linked to sugar substitutes
If you replace added sugar with sugar substitutes, it could lower your risk of getting tooth decay and cavities.

Sugar substitutes also don’t raise the level of sugar in the blood.

For adults and children with overweight or obesity, sugar substitutes also might help manage weight in the short term. That’s because sugar substitutes often are low in calories or have no calories. But it’s not clear whether sugar substitutes can help people manage their weight over the long term.

Over time, it’s most important to eat a healthy diet and get exercise.

Health concerns linked to sugar substitutes
Health agencies have clarified that sugar substitutes do not cause serious health problems.

Sugar substitutes also are not linked to a higher risk of cancer in people. Studies dating back to the 1970s linked the artificial sweetener saccharin to bladder cancer in rats. Since then, research has shown that those findings don’t apply to people.

Some research on long-term, daily use of artificial sweeteners suggests a link to a higher risk of stroke, heart disease and death overall. But other things people do, or healthy habits that people don’t do, may be the cause of the higher risk.

Other research is looking at long-term use of sugar substitutes and the gut. Many focus on how the gut and brain communicate. Researchers are checking to see if sugar substitutes affect cravings for sweets, the way people feel hunger and how the body manages blood sugar.

Sugar alcohols, stevia and luo han guo can cause bloating, gas and diarrhea. The amount of sugar alcohol that causes these symptoms varies from person to person.

In general, it is safest to take in small amounts of sugar substitutes. And it’s best to use sugar substitutes for a short time, or just every once in a while. So try to cut back if you use them a few times a day.

The bottom line
Artificial sweeteners can be a short-term way to help some people lessen their use of sugar and lose or manage weight. In general, sugar substitutes are safe for healthy adults.

But be aware of how sugar substitutes affect your food and drink choices. These ingredients may get your tastebuds used to sweetness. And that can make drinking enough water a challenge.

Products made with sugar substitutes also may give you the wrong message about processed foods. A snack labeled low sugar or no sugar may not be the most nutritious choice. Whole foods, such as fruits and vegetables, usually have the best mix of nutrients for the body.

But artificial sweeteners can help some people enjoy sweetness without excess calories. And if used in moderation, artificial sweeteners can be part of a healthy diet."

@Trinityscrew Moderation is a concept a lot of people have trouble with. Especially here.

@sammydog01 @Trinityscrew
/giphy ain’t THAT the truth!

@sammydog01 Yup! I definitely didn’t moderate that post.

@BedrQQmiii I bought them last time, and that explains some shit.

@BedrQQmiii Amen. I discovered the horrors of malitol an xylitol when I developed type 1 diabetes in my youth. I’d rather take more insulin for real sugar.

@BedrQQmiii There’s a photo of a box on the amazon review that begs to differ.

@ponagathos Because that is the business model of Meh.

@ponagathos Because they aren’t expiration dates, they’re “best by” dates. These things will probably be good until the end of time because there’s so little actual food in them. But even with real food, unless it’s something extremely perishable like meat or dairy, expiration dates aren’t real.

@merichmond @ponagathos Yeah, most protein bars dry out before they go bad. These ones look dry enough to begin with that only poor storage would make them go bad. Worth trying them out for me, anyways. Haven’t had any trouble yet with not-fresh products of this kind from Meh.

all of the above + kind bars suck imo: they come off the line tasting fossilized, no wonder they “last”.