Product: 3-Pack: JoyJolt 32oz Triple Insulated Water Bottle with 2 Lids
Model: JVI10200, JVI10201, JVI10210, JVI10202, JVI10204, JVI10203, JVI10205
Condition: New
Stay hydrated longer with a 32-ounce insulated water bottle designed to keep your favorite drinks at the ideal temperature
Enjoy two convenient ways to sip with both a flip lid and sport straw lid included for everyday versatility
Triple-insulated construction helps maintain your beverage’s temperature while minimizing condensation on the outside
Spill-proof design lets you confidently take your water bottle to the gym, office, school, or wherever your day leads
Capacity
32 oz
Insulation
Triple Insulated
Lid Options
Flip Lid and Sport Straw Lid
Design
Spill Proof
Available Colors
Matte Black, Dove Grey, Forest Green, Blush Pink, Cloud Blue, Lilac, Goldenrod, Matte Black + Cloud Blue + Lilac, Dove Grey + Cloud Blue + Lilac, Blush Pink + Cloud Blue + Lilac, Matte Black + Dove Grey + Forest Green
So I’d get a 3-pack of triple insulation? (My house isn’t insulated that well.) Can it be healthy to drink through a total of 9 layers of insulation? Some of those colors do seem to need some pollen insulation though.
Only on Meh could you convince yourself, Just one more order of (Bluetooth speakers, power packs, or tumblers with or without speakers/battery packs built in)
@heartny If today’s offer came in that shade of purple, I’d probably buy them just on that basis. But lilac? Meh. Ditto for the rest of the pastels. Give me some real beachball shades. Even the “forest green” is desaturated. I’m done with all that muted crap,
Decent price, but I have to wonder how they are achieving “triple” insulation on these. I smell marketroid misunderstanding of the product by the brand owner.
@troy In other words, vacuum insulated. Copper is not an insulator, it’s an excellent heat conductor.
Ergo, the double wall stainless vessel is the structure that provides the evacuated space that is the only real insulation involved. Yup, the brand owner’s marketroids (who may also be the brand owners) don’t really understand the tech behind their private-label merch.
It is sad that people branding what is very likely a perfectly suitable item feel the need to engage in stupid puffery that most likely caused quite a few potential customers (like me) to think there must be something wrong with it (or them).
@troy@werehatrack The key is that the copper layer in a “triple insulated” bottle isn’t there to conduct heat between the walls. Instead, it’s an extremely thin reflective coating applied to one of the vacuum chamber surfaces.
The copper coating reduces radiative heat transfer because polished copper has very low emissivity. Instead of absorbing infrared radiation from the opposite wall, it reflects most of it back.
Think of it like this:
No copper: infrared heat radiates across the vacuum and is absorbed by the other wall.
With copper: much of that infrared energy is reflected back instead of being absorbed.
So despite copper being an excellent conductor, in this application it functions as a reflective barrier, not a thermal bridge.
The improvement is real but usually modest. S’well is a big water bottle company that also uses this method.
@robson Every brand of vacuum-insulated stainless bottle and mug and tumbler that I’ve seen says “hand wash only.” All of the ones I own have been through the dishwasher multiple times with nothing worse than some discoloration of the powdercoat or resin dip. I will note, however, that I have to scrub the interior with some CLR and a Scotchbrite pad periodically to remove the layer of mineral deposit that inevitably seems to form. (Caveat: Early on, I bought a “Bubba” mug that had plastic cladding around the top and bottom of the stainless vacuum vessel. The plastic cladding was not watertight, and collected water inside when run through the dishwasher. It took more work to get it back out than I wanted to repeat, so I gave that mug away and never bought another.)
My favorite 40 oz tumblers were bought from Academy, and have a grippy coating. The best ones are a very nice shade of purple. I added handles to them which have stayed firmly in place. I put the tumblers in the freezer, I placed the ring portion of the handles in boiling water, and then shrink-fitted the handles onto the tumblers.
@werehatrack I wish that were true that ones that say hand wash only could safely be put through the dishwasher.
I’ve bought several different offerings here before these, and they’ve been ruined in the dishwasher when it says “hand wash only”. The finish discolors, or the coating peels off after several rounds in said dishwasher.
The only ones I’ve had no issues with are from Yeti and Stanley, where they’ve actually said “dishwasher safe” on the mug or tumbler, or on the manufacturer literature…
@robson Maybe that’s why they ended up here. Come to think of it, most of mine are from WallyWorld or Academy. They still said “hand wash only”, and I ignored it, and very few had any discoloration or peeling. As you say, YMMV. It may depend on local water condition, the detergent used, and the temperature reached in the dishwasher. We keep “heat dry” and “extra heat during wash” turned off, to protect the various plastic things.
The key is that the copper layer in a “triple insulated” bottle isn’t there to conduct heat between the walls. Instead, it’s an extremely thin reflective coating applied to one of the vacuum chamber surfaces.
The copper coating reduces radiative heat transfer because polished copper has very low emissivity. Instead of absorbing infrared radiation from the opposite wall, it reflects most of it back.
Think of it like this:
No copper: infrared heat radiates across the vacuum and is absorbed by the other wall.
With copper: much of that infrared energy is reflected back instead of being absorbed.
So despite copper being an excellent conductor, in this application it functions as a reflective barrier, not a thermal bridge.
The improvement is real but usually modest. S’well is a big water bottle company that also uses this method.
@Christo196@craigcush@defragc@troy Given the way that stainless steel makes a relatively lousy heat conductor (for a metal) and a decent heat reflector all by itself, I’d go really heavy on the “modest” gains in my expectations. Since the “copper layer” is in a place where its details can’t be evaluated without destroying the unit, we can’t be sure if it’s implemented in a useful way. And tempered by the knowledge that so much of China’s design ethic is driven by chabuduo, I fully expect that any actual gains in insulative efficiency might be hard to measure.
Still, these are a good deal for bottles that don’t actually have that feature, so its quality hardly matters. If I needed some vacuum-insulated stainless steel bottles of this size and type, I’d buy these without a second thought.
I don’t particularly care about the insulation, but the sippy lid is extremely useful for those who need to drink water at night and don’t want to be fussing around with screw on caps, or complicated methods to safely drink without spilling if you’re too sleepy to do it right. I bought one of these a couple of years back and it’s my favourite bottle by far.
I love the little star on it that looks a lot like the star that Gemini puts on AI created images. I’m going to buy one and convince folks that if give Gemini the right prompt, it will create real items!!
Well that stinks! And trust me, I feel your pain…
I’ve spent countless hours searching for travel cups even though I only leave the house about once every 3 MONTHS. Lol I like to use them right here on my couch to keep my drink ice cold for as long as possible. Weight and the size of the opening is what I mostly compare, it can’t be too heavy and the opening has to be large enough for my HUGE sized ice cubes! It’s a real PITA!
I don’t have this specific bottle but I got the 20oz ones a while back from meh and so far they are great. The plastic straws I didn’t like but I had a metal one laying around so use that instead but if you don’t mind hard plastic straws I’m sure they would work fine. Also the insulated 12 oz coffee cup keeps coffee hot for a long time even without the lid on it.
Got mine. As advertised. With these, I’ve gotten rid of a number of my older plastic and less insulated bottles. The handle lock is a little stiff, but I’m sure it will loosen up over time.
Specs
Product: 3-Pack: JoyJolt 32oz Triple Insulated Water Bottle with 2 Lids
Model: JVI10200, JVI10201, JVI10210, JVI10202, JVI10204, JVI10203, JVI10205
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$62.34 (for 3) at Amazon
$89.85 (for 3) MSRP
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Jul 20 - Wednesday, Jul 22
Three-fer Wednesday
So I’d get a 3-pack of triple insulation? (My house isn’t insulated that well.) Can it be healthy to drink through a total of 9 layers of insulation? Some of those colors do seem to need some pollen insulation though.
Only on Meh could you convince yourself, Just one more order of (Bluetooth speakers, power packs, or tumblers with or without speakers/battery packs built in)
@mudir_nahya So far, they haven’t combined a vacuum-insulated bottle with a knife and an LED lantern.
Maybe I should not have mentioned this idea.
Nope, safe, Hell+Bowell doesn’t have anything like that.
/showme a combined a vacuum-insulated bottle with a knife and an LED lantern in purple with a meh.com logo on the side
@heartny Here’s the image you requested for “a combined a vacuum-insulated bottle with a knife and an LED lantern in purple with a meh.com log…”
@mediocrebot I’d probably buy that
@heartny If today’s offer came in that shade of purple, I’d probably buy them just on that basis. But lilac? Meh. Ditto for the rest of the pastels. Give me some real beachball shades. Even the “forest green” is desaturated. I’m done with all that muted crap,
Decent price, but I have to wonder how they are achieving “triple” insulation on these. I smell marketroid misunderstanding of the product by the brand owner.
@werehatrack double wall stainless with a copper layer
@troy In other words, vacuum insulated. Copper is not an insulator, it’s an excellent heat conductor.
Ergo, the double wall stainless vessel is the structure that provides the evacuated space that is the only real insulation involved. Yup, the brand owner’s marketroids (who may also be the brand owners) don’t really understand the tech behind their private-label merch.
It is sad that people branding what is very likely a perfectly suitable item feel the need to engage in stupid puffery that most likely caused quite a few potential customers (like me) to think there must be something wrong with it (or them).
@troy @werehatrack The key is that the copper layer in a “triple insulated” bottle isn’t there to conduct heat between the walls. Instead, it’s an extremely thin reflective coating applied to one of the vacuum chamber surfaces.
The copper coating reduces radiative heat transfer because polished copper has very low emissivity. Instead of absorbing infrared radiation from the opposite wall, it reflects most of it back.
Think of it like this:
So despite copper being an excellent conductor, in this application it functions as a reflective barrier, not a thermal bridge.
The improvement is real but usually modest. S’well is a big water bottle company that also uses this method.
@defragc @troy @werehatrack Dammit, I hate it when facts impose.
Too bad the interior lining isn’t copper (or brass); that would be a neat little disinfectant.
@pakopako Ugh, it would taste horrible.
@Kyeh okay, if it sits too long, the copper will leech (maybe add a copper filter to the straw)
@Kyeh @pakopako
Okay … now you’re just being silly!
Hand wash only (per Amazon), so definite meh.
@robson Every brand of vacuum-insulated stainless bottle and mug and tumbler that I’ve seen says “hand wash only.” All of the ones I own have been through the dishwasher multiple times with nothing worse than some discoloration of the powdercoat or resin dip. I will note, however, that I have to scrub the interior with some CLR and a Scotchbrite pad periodically to remove the layer of mineral deposit that inevitably seems to form. (Caveat: Early on, I bought a “Bubba” mug that had plastic cladding around the top and bottom of the stainless vacuum vessel. The plastic cladding was not watertight, and collected water inside when run through the dishwasher. It took more work to get it back out than I wanted to repeat, so I gave that mug away and never bought another.)
My favorite 40 oz tumblers were bought from Academy, and have a grippy coating. The best ones are a very nice shade of purple. I added handles to them which have stayed firmly in place. I put the tumblers in the freezer, I placed the ring portion of the handles in boiling water, and then shrink-fitted the handles onto the tumblers.
@werehatrack I wish that were true that ones that say hand wash only could safely be put through the dishwasher.
I’ve bought several different offerings here before these, and they’ve been ruined in the dishwasher when it says “hand wash only”. The finish discolors, or the coating peels off after several rounds in said dishwasher.
The only ones I’ve had no issues with are from Yeti and Stanley, where they’ve actually said “dishwasher safe” on the mug or tumbler, or on the manufacturer literature…
YMMV, but that’s been my experience…
@robson Maybe that’s why they ended up here. Come to think of it, most of mine are from WallyWorld or Academy. They still said “hand wash only”, and I ignored it, and very few had any discoloration or peeling. As you say, YMMV. It may depend on local water condition, the detergent used, and the temperature reached in the dishwasher. We keep “heat dry” and “extra heat during wash” turned off, to protect the various plastic things.
No mention of vacuum insulation or they would have said it. Thus “ triple “
@craigcush double wall vacuum with copper layer
@craigcush @troy
Copper is a conductor, the opposite of an insulator.
@Christo196 @craigcush @troy
The key is that the copper layer in a “triple insulated” bottle isn’t there to conduct heat between the walls. Instead, it’s an extremely thin reflective coating applied to one of the vacuum chamber surfaces.
The copper coating reduces radiative heat transfer because polished copper has very low emissivity. Instead of absorbing infrared radiation from the opposite wall, it reflects most of it back.
Think of it like this:
So despite copper being an excellent conductor, in this application it functions as a reflective barrier, not a thermal bridge.
The improvement is real but usually modest. S’well is a big water bottle company that also uses this method.
@Christo196 @craigcush @defragc @troy Given the way that stainless steel makes a relatively lousy heat conductor (for a metal) and a decent heat reflector all by itself, I’d go really heavy on the “modest” gains in my expectations. Since the “copper layer” is in a place where its details can’t be evaluated without destroying the unit, we can’t be sure if it’s implemented in a useful way. And tempered by the knowledge that so much of China’s design ethic is driven by chabuduo, I fully expect that any actual gains in insulative efficiency might be hard to measure.
Still, these are a good deal for bottles that don’t actually have that feature, so its quality hardly matters. If I needed some vacuum-insulated stainless steel bottles of this size and type, I’d buy these without a second thought.
I don’t particularly care about the insulation, but the sippy lid is extremely useful for those who need to drink water at night and don’t want to be fussing around with screw on caps, or complicated methods to safely drink without spilling if you’re too sleepy to do it right. I bought one of these a couple of years back and it’s my favourite bottle by far.
@nobile My husband often keeps a similar bottle on his night stand for exactly that reason.
“Can they make a margarita” – No, but the ones on Sidedeal absolutely can, and they totally missed the mark.
Who bought 10? Do you have a little league you’re outfitting?
@amazonateit More likely an eBay store.
I love the little star on it that looks a lot like the star that Gemini puts on AI created images. I’m going to buy one and convince folks that if give Gemini the right prompt, it will create real items!!
@rubix1138 I’m actually amused there isn’t a wireless Bluetooth charger or something inside
Thanks for watching folks!
Anybody know the radius/dimensions so we can know if these actually fit in normal size car cup holders?
@SaintO
On Amazon they say the dimensions are
Height: 9.46 inches (from the base to the top of the lid assembly)
Width / Diameter: 3.54 inches across the bottom base.
They have a coupon and you can get one, a two tone color, for $15.63 but… you CAN’T BEAT THIS DEAL HERE ON MEH so I’d definitely BUY IT HERE!
https://a.co/d/06bnukOs
@Lynnerizer unfortunately that is too large for my cup holders
@SaintO
I’ve spent countless hours searching for travel cups even though I only leave the house about once every 3 MONTHS. Lol
Bottle Diameter 3.59", Bottle Height 8.875"
Thanks for that, @user05975966 ! Pulls it out of the car-cupholder running
Does it come in Georgia red?
@user59380949 Nope.
Good deal I’m interested
What material are the straws?
@Not_Bot_Not
Looks like a hard plastic straw! Definitely NOT a metal one.
Here’s the Amazon link with lots of reviews if you’re interested.
https://a.co/d/06bnukOs
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I don’t have this specific bottle but I got the 20oz ones a while back from meh and so far they are great. The plastic straws I didn’t like but I had a metal one laying around so use that instead but if you don’t mind hard plastic straws I’m sure they would work fine. Also the insulated 12 oz coffee cup keeps coffee hot for a long time even without the lid on it.
32 oz. Barely a dampness worth of water.
Need 64 oz.
@f00l
You get three, so 96 oz! 50% more than what you’re looking for…
Got mine. As advertised. With these, I’ve gotten rid of a number of my older plastic and less insulated bottles. The handle lock is a little stiff, but I’m sure it will loosen up over time.