@platkus I couldn’t find this exact stock number, but every listing I found for this brand using the nomenclature “$N-pack” explicitly stated that it was $N pairs.
I’m assuming this is 24 pairs of socks, right? The picture shows 24 individual socks which gives you with 8 pairs and 8 spares for when the dryer eats some. Normally that wouldn’t make any sense, but this is meh, so…
@Moustrp@troy meaning one for each foot assuming 2 feet per person, and if 24 people with naked feet showed up outside your office (or sofa or bedroom or hot tub, if you WFH) they would all get socks for both feet? but only socks, since they just got out of the hot tub. So that’s a weird visual.
@dannokun nothing but wood touches my body, is how I first read that. But that’s on me.
Now that I think about it, in the summer, I would choose wood, if those two materials were the only choices.
@pmarin@stinks Except perhaps the smell. I had long wondered why one of the nicknames for it was “skunk weed”. Unfortunately, now I understand. Too well.
@loudersoft You too can wear ancient plants, which transformed to petroleum over millions of years, which was then converted into a thin flexible fabric, on your feet. Like a king!
@cn@loudersoft Ancient plants mostly became coal, which has been made into rayon more than a few times. Polyester comes from ancient sea bottom slime, which is largely bacteria and other organic waste that fell from above. Yes, you, too, can wear things made from megalodon shit. (Exact amount will vary according to the location of feed stock source, and cannot be precisely measured.)
@cn@loudersoft@werehatrack Coal is made into nylon. Rayon comes from wood, so it’s considered a natural fiber, like cotton, and it breathes. However, dry-fit fabric is often polyester, so
In what situation can you wear these “low-cut” socks without looking (and feeling) like a dork? I guess around the house, but do I need special socks just for that?
@stolicat when did it become dorky for any amount of sock to dare to rise above and peek out over the edge of your shoe? I think those super short micro socks are uncomfortable and look dorky, but to each their own.
@katbyter I guess dork is in the eye of the beholder - I agree the micro socks can do that too, like someone trying to look like they’re not wearing socks but failing.
@katbyter@stolicat I just like him for a different reason. Part of my rationale for wearing socks at all is to reduce the number of mosquito bites I get on my ankles. These are useless for that. Plus, inevitably, they ride down over my heel and end up in a wad under my foot. Worthless!
@katbyter@stolicat OFFS. That’s what I get for entering a comment using the phone in speech-to-text mode. That should have been “I dislike them for a different reason.”
Why do people buy matched socks? I wouldn’t accept these with any less than about $10 payment, much less provide my own money in exchange for them?!
I can’t comprehend the true magnitude of extraneous thought that people must go through to match socks back together every single time they’re washed, to say nothing of the stress of losing a sock.
@brettpeirce I HATE matching socks up!
I was so glad when mismatched socks were ‘in style’ when my daughter was young! She still doesn’t match them, so it’s great just throwing them in her drawer, lol!
@brettpeirce@k4evryng I went the route of buying only one kind and color of socks. I figured that anyone who cares enough to be critical about that is someone whose opinion doesn’t matter!
@brettpeirce I buy matched socks, but I don’t bother matching them. All I really strive for is matching socks from the same pack, but even that’s a bit flexible if I have a close.enough match in style and fit from some other brand. They’re socks. They’re casual socks at that. People have already come to conclusions about my sartorial choices (or lack thereof) long before they get to my feet.
@brettpeirce@goodjuju I used to just buy a huge bunch of identical socks, with plenty of spares, and have nothing to match because every sock in the drawer was the same. When enough of them had worn out to depopulate the drawer enough, the tattered survivors got ditched and the whole process was repeated. It was easier than giving a shit about what I was wearing.
That changed. Now I have some interesting socks, ones that I actually like. None of them are “no show”; I despise that kind.
@Jesse60 - matched socks are what I can it where a set contains matched pairs of socks. Each sock in the set only has one match. One pair might have blue lines, while another has green circles.
After a web search, I think this might not be what people call sets of socks where each sock only has one twin, but I also see a very significant lack of discussion about how infuriatingly obnoxious these sets are. I also similarly don’t see consensus on the term for sets where all socks match all others, so I suppose I will just call those generic socks, even though sometimes they will be decorated, but they will all be decorated the same ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@werehatrack that’s what I did for my boys and husband and it was great! No matching and when they got holes, they went in the trash and they slowly dwindled in number.
However…it usually took about 2 years before needing to restock, and by then whatever brand I bought before had changed enough in style that they didn’t match the older (but still usable) socks. Then I wound up having to match again, lol! So I just gave up.
When my kids are all out of the house we will go down to just 2 kinds…his and mine.
Maybe a « down alternative » duvet?
and is the duvet really the thing inside that used to be down but now is polyester, or is the duvet the cover for it? if so what is inside? why do we have 1 word for 2 things, and why does it sound French just to confuse us?
Picked up the women’s socks on Side Deal. At less than a dollar a pair I couldn’t resist. Plus…they are 49% cotton, which (to me) is better than all polyester.
I’m sure my daughter will confiscate at least 20 pair of them, so this should keep her stocked up for the summer.
@k4evryng I too picked up the SD women’s socks and used a coupon code. I figure if I don’t like them when they arrive it will make a good donation to the local women’s shelter.
@steeltoesenator That’s a very nice idea! I think with the cotton content they should be a bit thicker and nicer than just polyester.
I don’t usually wear no shows, but I like to have a couple of pair in case I have to wear sneakers with shorts. My legs are too short to get away with ankle socks and they look stupid. I need all of the perceived leg length I can get. . But they are all my teenage daughter wears, so they’ll get used.
Strike #1: Ew. 97% sweaty kinda-plastic, and 3% stretchy sorta-rubber. Every claim ever of synthetic fiber being “absorbent” or “wicking” is an absolute lie, so this now says “breathable”… but not if you’re wearing shoes. Gross.
Strike #2: Ugly. No-show cut, so you can look like you’re wearing shoes with no socks at all. When did the homeless junkie look become a thing? Oh, I’m sorry… I’m supposed to call them “the unsocked” and “tweakers” now.
Strike #3: Phhhhbt! Get off my lawn!
(Does anyone even remember Ed Anger? Pig-biting mad!)
@blaadnort on point 1 I think that is subjective based on terminology and also the other material.
If we compare these to cotton then which is more comfortable to wear on a hot day?
Like outside where you can’t run the AC and your feet will sweat and the event is going to last more than an hour?
Obviously these will be the best choice but not because they ‘wick’, although what do YOU call it when you stealthily slip your shoes off at said event and these socks relatively dry out in 5 minutes while the cotton clad attendee does the same and puts their soaked socks back into their shoes?
@oldmantick Wot? How about I wear my cotton socks and avoid this entire scenario? I mean, OF COURSE cotton is more comfortable to wear on a hot day, because it’s less sweaty than polyester and doesn’t cause the wet-sock problem to begin with. Maybe slightly damp by the end of the day? But full-on soggy? Never happens, except with synthetics.
In my small sample of half-a-century-plus of cotton sock wearing, I’ve never had to “stealthily slip my shoes off [at an event to have my] socks relatively dry out”. Ew, gross. Seriously. People who wear poly sport socks are nose-blind to this, like smokers who think no one can smell them. We can. From a mile away. Ferkrissakes no. Please never do this.
On the few occasions that I have tried polyester or other primarily-synthetic socks, their lack of absorbency and heat retention are what cause a sweaty mess in the first place. So… telling me that they dry off quicker than cotton (which is true) after they cause the problem in the first place, is not exactly gonna sell me.
@gageaa75 6"2", which means that the sleeves are always at least 4" too short, usually 6" or more. OTOH, I can buy a fancy dress for a special occasion and not have to get it hemmed at all.
Is it me or what. There’s actually no mention of any size? Who does that? Who sells socks without telling you what size they are, and don’t tell me one size fits, all not in a goddamn sock.
@deer4445 Umm, really? In the men’s sock area of most stores, there are at most two sizes. One typically fits for shoe sizes up to about 11, and the other is for sizes up to about 13, and many stores don’t even bother with having two. (In many styles, the range is given as being for shoe sizes 6-12, and there’s only one size available.) Over in the women’s side, it’s typically only one size on hand, and it fits for shoe sizes 4-10. (Try shopping for women’s socks that fit a 13W. There effectively aren’t any.)
@fizban7 I would hazard a guess that two reasons are relevant. First, because they pretty obviously used a women’s mannikin foot for the photos, so they had to pull them past the heel to get them to not droop, but also because the socks are actually beyond-low-cut to the point of being “barely shows with loafers”, making them particularly abhorrent to someone like me who has way too much historic experience with socks that slump and clump.
@Pufferfishy This can’t be understated - these are not cotton or wool socks - they’re a poly blend. If you’re used to cotton socks these might not work for you.
@richrauch Counterpoint: The person writing copy on the frontpage is an adult with a strong vocabulary, and if richrauch ever tried to do that job, they would suck at it.
@customers Hey, in case you’re in need of more socks we’ve got the 24-pack of Steve Madden socks up on Meh today for a couple bucks less than when you got them.
And if you’ve got any thoughts on how you like the socks you got before, jump into our forum and let the community know.
@dave I do actually appreciate this and wouldn’t hate it if y’all kept doing it, but from a certain perspective, you made a point of telling me that I arguably paid more than I should have, goddamnit.
Specs
Product: 24-Pack: Steve Madden Men’s Flat Knit Low Cut Socks
Model: SMSKM0046
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$46.47 for 24 similar at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Jun 23 - Monday, Jun 26
Sock it to me baby!!
Sock it to me? Oh shit-you beat me by seconds.
Are there 24 pairs of socks or 24 socks meaning 12 pairs?
@platkus jinx
@platkus I couldn’t find this exact stock number, but every listing I found for this brand using the nomenclature “$N-pack” explicitly stated that it was $N pairs.
@platkus 24 pairs!
I’m assuming this is 24 pairs of socks, right? The picture shows 24 individual socks which gives you with 8 pairs and 8 spares for when the dryer eats some. Normally that wouldn’t make any sense, but this is meh, so…
@Moustrp Yup, 24 pairs
@Moustrp @troy meaning one for each foot assuming 2 feet per person, and if 24 people with naked feet showed up outside your office (or sofa or bedroom or hot tub, if you WFH) they would all get socks for both feet? but only socks, since they just got out of the hot tub. So that’s a weird visual.
@Moustrp The detailed discription shows you 6 @ 4 colors making it 24
@denvette73 Yeah, it does now… 9 hours ago, not so much.
Nothing but wool touches my body
@dannokun nothing but wood touches my body, is how I first read that. But that’s on me.
Now that I think about it, in the summer, I would choose wood, if those two materials were the only choices.
@dannokun Ewe don’t say!
@dannokun @phendrick I actually read it first as Woot, but not sure we can say that word here.
but yeah trying to cut my polyester profile as rapidly as possible. and no Meh-crofibers.
So it’s 8 x 1.5 pairs?
@grammarsheriff 8x3 pairs
Shoes? Where we’re going, nobody needs shoes.
@stinks i want what you’re smoking. not that there’s anything wrong with that. in this state.
@pmarin @stinks Except perhaps the smell. I had long wondered why one of the nicknames for it was “skunk weed”. Unfortunately, now I understand. Too well.
Meh.
@loudersoft Mehcrofiber in socks clothing.
@loudersoft You too can wear ancient plants, which transformed to petroleum over millions of years, which was then converted into a thin flexible fabric, on your feet. Like a king!
@cn @loudersoft Ancient plants mostly became coal, which has been made into rayon more than a few times. Polyester comes from ancient sea bottom slime, which is largely bacteria and other organic waste that fell from above. Yes, you, too, can wear things made from megalodon shit. (Exact amount will vary according to the location of feed stock source, and cannot be precisely measured.)
@cn @loudersoft So they’re organic! Nice.
@cn @loudersoft @werehatrack when you said
I was actually thinking it was the other Poly… Poly-ticians.
@cn @loudersoft @werehatrack Coal is made into nylon. Rayon comes from wood, so it’s considered a natural fiber, like cotton, and it breathes. However, dry-fit fabric is often polyester, so
you know these make really shitty margaritas, yeah?
@alacrity But they make great pruno!
Another Meh sausage fest. Notice the women’s socks on SideDeal include the word “Laundry.” Coincidence? I think not!
@ircon96 At least the women’s socks are partly cotton! (Edit - I said “mostly” but no, it’s 49%.)
@Kyeh Technically, they ARE mostly cotton, cuz every other material is less than 49%. It’s a cotton plurality, if you will.
@ircon96 Well, more than any single other fiber, but less than all the rest combined. Or as some catalogs like to say, "cotton rich."
@Kyeh Yep, “rich” does make them sound so much more luxurious, doesn’t it?
My first thought was Iron Covers, then I saw the last picture. What does that say of me when I start thinking like Meh?
@hchavers your fortune lies in on-line marketing
@hchavers I’Meh fraid it goes downhill from here.
In what situation can you wear these “low-cut” socks without looking (and feeling) like a dork? I guess around the house, but do I need special socks just for that?
@stolicat while they aren’t entirely no-show, they’re pretty close!
@troy Well, that’s actually fairly non-dorky. I would’ve thought they’d be higher up, but with the proper shoe…
I was envisioning with sandals or deck shoes. Or crocs.
@stolicat when did it become dorky for any amount of sock to dare to rise above and peek out over the edge of your shoe? I think those super short micro socks are uncomfortable and look dorky, but to each their own.
@katbyter I guess dork is in the eye of the beholder - I agree the micro socks can do that too, like someone trying to look like they’re not wearing socks but failing.
@katbyter @stolicat I just like him for a different reason. Part of my rationale for wearing socks at all is to reduce the number of mosquito bites I get on my ankles. These are useless for that. Plus, inevitably, they ride down over my heel and end up in a wad under my foot. Worthless!
@katbyter @stolicat OFFS. That’s what I get for entering a comment using the phone in speech-to-text mode. That should have been “I dislike them for a different reason.”
Why do people buy matched socks? I wouldn’t accept these with any less than about $10 payment, much less provide my own money in exchange for them?!
I can’t comprehend the true magnitude of extraneous thought that people must go through to match socks back together every single time they’re washed, to say nothing of the stress of losing a sock.
Has Irk discussed this?
@brettpeirce for the record I did decide several years ago that matched socks were silly so now I rarely do it.
@brettpeirce I HATE matching socks up!
I was so glad when mismatched socks were ‘in style’ when my daughter was young! She still doesn’t match them, so it’s great just throwing them in her drawer, lol!
@brettpeirce @k4evryng I went the route of buying only one kind and color of socks. I figured that anyone who cares enough to be critical about that is someone whose opinion doesn’t matter!
@Kyeh Amen!
@brettpeirce What is this matched socks you speak of?
@brettpeirce @Jesse60 Wouldn’t taking matches to them leave burn holes?
@brettpeirce I buy matched socks, but I don’t bother matching them. All I really strive for is matching socks from the same pack, but even that’s a bit flexible if I have a close.enough match in style and fit from some other brand. They’re socks. They’re casual socks at that. People have already come to conclusions about my sartorial choices (or lack thereof) long before they get to my feet.
@brettpeirce @goodjuju I used to just buy a huge bunch of identical socks, with plenty of spares, and have nothing to match because every sock in the drawer was the same. When enough of them had worn out to depopulate the drawer enough, the tattered survivors got ditched and the whole process was repeated. It was easier than giving a shit about what I was wearing.
That changed. Now I have some interesting socks, ones that I actually like. None of them are “no show”; I despise that kind.
@Jesse60 - matched socks are what I can it where a set contains matched pairs of socks. Each sock in the set only has one match. One pair might have blue lines, while another has green circles.
After a web search, I think this might not be what people call sets of socks where each sock only has one twin, but I also see a very significant lack of discussion about how infuriatingly obnoxious these sets are. I also similarly don’t see consensus on the term for sets where all socks match all others, so I suppose I will just call those generic socks, even though sometimes they will be decorated, but they will all be decorated the same ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@werehatrack that’s what I did for my boys and husband and it was great! No matching and when they got holes, they went in the trash and they slowly dwindled in number.
However…it usually took about 2 years before needing to restock, and by then whatever brand I bought before had changed enough in style that they didn’t match the older (but still usable) socks. Then I wound up having to match again, lol! So I just gave up.
When my kids are all out of the house we will go down to just 2 kinds…his and mine.
It always starts with « it’s just socks »
that’s where they get ya.
then some Mehcrofiber sheets
Maybe a « down alternative » duvet?
and is the duvet really the thing inside that used to be down but now is polyester, or is the duvet the cover for it? if so what is inside? why do we have 1 word for 2 things, and why does it sound French just to confuse us?
@pmarin Sacre bleu! It is because sounding French is the way to sound fancy in English!
@pmarin one is a duvet. The other is the duvet cover. I just use a quilt.
Picked up the women’s socks on Side Deal. At less than a dollar a pair I couldn’t resist. Plus…they are 49% cotton, which (to me) is better than all polyester.
I’m sure my daughter will confiscate at least 20 pair of them, so this should keep her stocked up for the summer.
@k4evryng I too picked up the SD women’s socks and used a coupon code. I figure if I don’t like them when they arrive it will make a good donation to the local women’s shelter.
@steeltoesenator That’s a very nice idea! I think with the cotton content they should be a bit thicker and nicer than just polyester.
I don’t usually wear no shows, but I like to have a couple of pair in case I have to wear sneakers with shorts. My legs are too short to get away with ankle socks and they look stupid. I need all of the perceived leg length I can get. . But they are all my teenage daughter wears, so they’ll get used.
Strike #1: Ew. 97% sweaty kinda-plastic, and 3% stretchy sorta-rubber. Every claim ever of synthetic fiber being “absorbent” or “wicking” is an absolute lie, so this now says “breathable”… but not if you’re wearing shoes. Gross.
Strike #2: Ugly. No-show cut, so you can look like you’re wearing shoes with no socks at all. When did the homeless junkie look become a thing? Oh, I’m sorry… I’m supposed to call them “the unsocked” and “tweakers” now.
Strike #3: Phhhhbt! Get off my lawn!
(Does anyone even remember Ed Anger? Pig-biting mad!)
@blaadnort on point 1 I think that is subjective based on terminology and also the other material.
If we compare these to cotton then which is more comfortable to wear on a hot day?
Like outside where you can’t run the AC and your feet will sweat and the event is going to last more than an hour?
Obviously these will be the best choice but not because they ‘wick’, although what do YOU call it when you stealthily slip your shoes off at said event and these socks relatively dry out in 5 minutes while the cotton clad attendee does the same and puts their soaked socks back into their shoes?
@blaadnort That’s why I wear merino wool socks (when I wear socks) year-round - they don’t bunch up like cotten when my feet sweat.
@oldmantick Wot? How about I wear my cotton socks and avoid this entire scenario? I mean, OF COURSE cotton is more comfortable to wear on a hot day, because it’s less sweaty than polyester and doesn’t cause the wet-sock problem to begin with. Maybe slightly damp by the end of the day? But full-on soggy? Never happens, except with synthetics.
In my small sample of half-a-century-plus of cotton sock wearing, I’ve never had to “stealthily slip my shoes off [at an event to have my] socks relatively dry out”. Ew, gross. Seriously. People who wear poly sport socks are nose-blind to this, like smokers who think no one can smell them. We can. From a mile away. Ferkrissakes no. Please never do this.
On the few occasions that I have tried polyester or other primarily-synthetic socks, their lack of absorbency and heat retention are what cause a sweaty mess in the first place. So… telling me that they dry off quicker than cotton (which is true) after they cause the problem in the first place, is not exactly gonna sell me.
My sock drawer and I miss when meh sold Unsimply Stitched fairly regularly.
Unfortunately, my shoe size is mehn’s 13.
@gageaa75 Mine is womehn’s 13, I know the feeling.
@werehatrack How tall are you?
@gageaa75 6"2", which means that the sleeves are always at least 4" too short, usually 6" or more. OTOH, I can buy a fancy dress for a special occasion and not have to get it hemmed at all.
What size are these?
@TheNewGuyHere Fits men’s shoe sizes 6 to 12.5
Umm, hopefully inside your shoes. “Beneath” means something else. You could look it up.
@werehatrack You are dampening the marketing people’s spirits.
@blaadnort I’d say their spirits could benefit from enough dilution to maintain cogency while composing that stuff.
Is it me or what. There’s actually no mention of any size? Who does that? Who sells socks without telling you what size they are, and don’t tell me one size fits, all not in a goddamn sock.
@deer4445 We have size listed in the specs (6-12.5)
@deer4445 Umm, really? In the men’s sock area of most stores, there are at most two sizes. One typically fits for shoe sizes up to about 11, and the other is for sizes up to about 13, and many stores don’t even bother with having two. (In many styles, the range is given as being for shoe sizes 6-12, and there’s only one size available.) Over in the women’s side, it’s typically only one size on hand, and it fits for shoe sizes 4-10. (Try shopping for women’s socks that fit a 13W. There effectively aren’t any.)
why do none of them have the heels in the right place in the photos?!
@fizban7 I would hazard a guess that two reasons are relevant. First, because they pretty obviously used a women’s mannikin foot for the photos, so they had to pull them past the heel to get them to not droop, but also because the socks are actually beyond-low-cut to the point of being “barely shows with loafers”, making them particularly abhorrent to someone like me who has way too much historic experience with socks that slump and clump.
mmmm - plastic socks.
@Pufferfishy This can’t be understated - these are not cotton or wool socks - they’re a poly blend. If you’re used to cotton socks these might not work for you.
@806D2701 @Pufferfishy TRUTH.
@806D2701 @lasdeauna @Pufferfishy
Awesome! The only kind of sock that lets me immediately know how bad my feet smell!
No more waiting for them, festering at the bottom of the hamper, or getting the build-up stoked in the shoes under the clothes with no ventilation.
Instant gratification!
EVERYTHING IS AWESOME!
You might want to search for an adult or at least someone with a stronger vocabulary to write your copy.
@richrauch Counterpoint: The person writing copy on the frontpage is an adult with a strong vocabulary, and if richrauch ever tried to do that job, they would suck at it.
Who cares? “Who cares?” he/she asks?
Discerning consumers. . . that’s who.
97% polyester? Nooooooo thank you? Anybody make socks nowadays out of a material that DON’T make your feet sweat profusely. #hardpass
My only problem with these is that that “one size fits most” is a lie.
@adr5 Tens of millions of Walmart customers apparently disagree.
Got these for my grown son and in his words “they’re fine.”
@customers Hey, in case you’re in need of more socks we’ve got the 24-pack of Steve Madden socks up on Meh today for a couple bucks less than when you got them.
And if you’ve got any thoughts on how you like the socks you got before, jump into our forum and let the community know.
@dave I do actually appreciate this and wouldn’t hate it if y’all kept doing it, but from a certain perspective, you made a point of telling me that I arguably paid more than I should have, goddamnit.