Well shiiiiittt...Tuesday. Welp here we go again as we find ourselves at the corner of impulsivity and temptation as we near that janky ass pawn shop on the wrong end of town. As we turn the corner and near that alley we all secretly know too well we realize that it is silent. We peer down the dark alley to discover Twofer Tuesday fast asleep on a giant mound of pillows. So quiet, so peaceful, and such a waste of pillows. Like those pillows are fucking ruined with her sleeping on them. Don't touch them...dont even fucking look at them. If you want some...buy them here. She's pry got bed bugs or some shit.
I actually have a memory foam mattress topper from this company, and it's honestly the best topper I've ever had. Not sure about these pillows, but thought I'd throw it out there anyway.
@opivp99 it sounds like the problem is the memory foam went "stale" for lack of a better word. has any diligent, or sleepy, meh employee tried these for themselves?
Ha! I already have 8 of these fucking things. I love them, but I sure don't need any more. Pro pillow hoarder tip: if these are like all the others, you'll need to let them sit for a while and then throw them in the dryer on low heat to get them to fluff. (they come rolled and super compressed) Worth the effort.
@cutroil I love them as bolsters- I don't actually use them for sleeping. They're big, fluffy but firm, and make great back and arm rests for a chronic pain and fatigue sufferer.
@eyebrows I have two of those very pillows and love them. Was really hard paying $50 for a pillow but the reviews convinced me. Easily the best pillows I've ever had. One of them started to go a little flat about a week ago and I threw it in the dryer for 10 minutes and it was good as new. Probably going to pick up the two here today as extras.
Well, bought a set. We will see how comfortable these are when they arrive.
wearisome-valuable-carpenter. << Exactly what it says on the tin. Except I'm not a carpenter..., though most of my family thinks I'm not valuable enough to talk to much less acknowledge and I am growing quite wearisome of it.
Are these considered "firm support", "medium" or "luxury" (plushy soft "down alternative")?
I bought an expensive memory foam pillow at Sam's Club a couple of years ago and it's like sleeping with a brick under my head. I guess I don't have enough brains in there to squish down into the pillow. I had an awesome super soft down pillow a few years ago that I LOVED, but after a while all those little eider feathers just sort of balled up into a lumpy mess.
@ImTheDoctor i have some shredded ones that are hard, i didn't get in soon enough to get these, but I'd wonder if these are soft or firm shredded memory foam pillows as well.
@erthwjim These aren't hard, but not soft like down either. I beat on mine to shape it for my head, then it pretty much stays in shape all night. You don't sink into them like a marshmallow, but you can shape them easily. Hope that helps for next time!
@ImTheDoctor Well I just wish they'd put more in the description about the firmness of these pillows. The ones I bought were off some other site and the firmness was not included, I just assumed all bamboo memory foam shredded pillows were the same. Unfortunately my assumptions left me with a pillow like a brick.
@upbeatanime I'm pretty sure they think about it lots and buy up the kings that don't sell other places because they're less desirable and bundle them up to sell at low prices on tuesdays.
I really wanted the queen, but settled for the king. Hey @hollboll, @galmaegi, @moose, @mehcus, if any queen orders get cancelled, feel free to send them my way ;)
@conandlibrarian If you manage to finagle some queens, I'll take the kings. Sold out of everything by the time I was able to check the site. I have a king size bed so that's actually my preference. Weird huh?
I'm already laying on one. Its so comfy. I bought the one I currently have (Queen size) for $50. So getting two King size pillows for less than half the price is awesome.
I have seen people trying to sell these at some inflated price at sams many times, I never stick around to see if they are $60... or just wait $50... or what if I told you $40 each... seems since mypillow came around selling overpriced pillows is all the rage.
for $10 each... bought some... probably overpaid by $8 each :)
I'll bite - maybe these will work to replace my beat up unicorn pillow pets and various knock offs, whose job is to help prop up and/or cuddle me on pain days. compromising-tiresome-face
Meh, I have way too many pillows. If I have another box of pillows sent to the house I may be minus a husband. Oh, but wait! You've thoughtfully timed this sale for right after Valentine's Day and just a week before my birthday, so I can buy whatever I want! Saved the day again. Thanks, Meh! Now I hope these pillows are really comfy since I won't be able to get any more for at least a year.
I had sheets made out of bamboo fabric. They were lovely and soft but I would describe the fabric as having a shorter life span than cotton or a cotton blend. I don't know if that would be a factor with pillows because they would be protected by pillowcases. Also I don't get rid of sheets for decorating reasons, I use them until something interferes with their functionality. The bamboo sheets lasted for years before the bottom sheet tore.
@thismyusername no, I avoid eye contact and keep walking. Same thing with the DirectTV hawkers at Costco and SAMs (or I simply watch their inquisitive faces as I say "OTA").
I own two Queen sized already. Yep, I paid $30 each for them a year ago. They are great, but do go flat after a time and need a good fluffing. My neck pain went from 8 to 2 on the 'how bad does it hurt scale'. In for two King sized that I don't need! creamy-annoyed-assassin
I tried from midnight until they sold out to purchase a set of king pillows and it refused to take my billing address although it has never changed and i've used it many times.
Memory foam sucks! To get the best from a pillow search for and buy authentic Sobakawa buckwheat shell pillows. These are okay for some but they do get hot on your head while sleeping (it's the foam that does it). The shells do make a little noise but you get used to it quickly and then sleep right through it.
@RedOak .. Nah, your gourd crushes them like pecan shells but there's millions of 'em so it takes years to grind 'em down. The only draw back is you can't wash the pillow but you can wash the case by taking the shells out then replacing after it dries.. (not a quick task).
Meh. Love my buckwheat pillow. Way more versatile, just as pliable, comfy, and never gets hot. And not filled with fluffy plastic shreds. Just refill with cleaned quality hulls whenever. They grow more. Beans72 for me.
So it's "bamboo" because they used cellulose extracted from bamboo fibers to mix with with a strong base, followed by treatment of that solution with carbon disulfide to give a xanthate derivative. The xanthate is then converted back to a cellulose fiber in a subsequent step, and made into a pillowcase, which is then stuffed with shreds of "viscoelastic" polyurethane foam.
@MasterK999@nadroj ouch. That FTC piece is pretty unambiguous, even if the "bamboo" description above for this product is.
The PCH site carefully walks the does-it-contain-direct-bamboo or fibers-processed-from-bamboo(no actual bamboo properties surviving) line but the Amazon page description does say rayon from bamboo fibers.
Lacking clarity, this smacks of a tin-man product.
Peacefully resting on no-better or worse-covered pillows in the meantime... and will keep the bamboo on the floor and cutting board where it belongs.
Damn. Wish I hadn't missed these. I do have a problem with mildew in my pillows. I wash my hair before bed but don't dry it. It's super thick and just shy of waist length.
hey, at this price maybe not. We paid $40 each for these at Sams and returned them the next day. Like most memory foam they only compress exactly where your weight falls so you're head ends up encased in foam. The pillow almost touched my checks when I laid on my back. This may be good for a mattress but not a pillow.
Bamboo is awesome but for whatever reason has been a marketing disaster.
The North Face made a bunch of bamboo shirts that were silky smooth, wicked like no tomorrow, and never got funky, but the discontinued them after one year.
There's a struggling company called TASC Performance, base in New Orleans, that makes amazing workout gear. Kinda pricey, but after trying them out, i wound up pitching every Hanes, fruit of the loom, Nike, and Under Armor tee I owned. Bought maybe two dozen tees for workout and as under shirts, plus another dozen for peejays. Only thing i ever wear for a base layer now. The stuff just works. And now all of that other dry-fit stuff feels like steel wool. But the company just isn't catching on.
Sweet, A Sellout... that I purchased! :) They shall go next to my other MEh pillows (I stocked up on the 4 packs last time... I Think I maxed out the purchase.) The 4 packs we purchased are great for about 2-3 months, then they flatten... and time to go to the next one... Which isn't bad considering the cost. However a part of me dies every time I have to throw away a pillow due to this. :( (The environment doesn't like the throw away culture.)
The Malevolent Order Name Generator is being very cautious with me lately. Wonder why. reasonable-willing-history looks like this, because I'm saving the good stuff for tomorrow.
I saw these too late, and unfortunately was unable to get any sniff, sniff. They look awesome, and I would love to expand my bamboo clothing collection; I have bamboo socks, and they are the most comfortable things in the world. Edit: I realize pillows are not exactly clothing...
Mine came in a couple of days ago, I immediately opened them up to let them expand (I have a memory foam mattress from the mothership too) and the pillows are staying flat and really hard. Anyone else having this problem? Is there a way to get them to expand and fluff up?
@TBKHomeworld I'm having this problem too. I've tried bouncing them around, fluffing them by hand, tossing them in the dryer on air dry, and singing Billy Ocean to them. No response. Heartless pillows. I'll keep you posted if anything brings them to life.
@0oiiiiio0 Agreed on taking them out of the bag. Cutting is a good idea but I wanted to keep the source bags to re-use for other stuff. My pillows have yet to inflate (I will try the dryer trick everyone is talking about) and if they don't then I guess I can just re-use the bamboo case on my feather pillow. Disappointed in this meh deal. :(
@TBKHomeworld i go both of mine to expand you have to break the foam up into the individual squares. I did that then threw them in the dryer and they are all puffed up.
@Beatheistitsfun I ended up throwing them in the washer on 'bulky' item setting and then in the dryer. It fluffed them up and I cannot feel any hard lumps anymore. Glad everyone was able to figure out a way to make them work better. :)
For those of you who missed these.. not quite sure they are EXACTLY the same.. but as someone mentioned in the past, staples seems to be following Meh's lead...
while looking at the one I am getting ready to break up the foam in I am seeing a slight puff to one side... so it appears that it does fluff up slowly if left in a giant mass and outside of the bamboo cover.
@KDemo I'm good, these are spares, and not my first time with shredded foam pillows... but... I will say these are the most compressed I've ever seen any memory foam compressed... like really compressed... like zero air in there... pretty impressive.
They were shipped in a big ol' box with lots of bagged air to keep their extreme lack of air from moving around in the big ol' box... which might be ironic? :)
@thismyusername these things will not inflate on their own. Hand shredding just results in lumpy awful pillows. No directions in the bag, on the pillow, or even on the phclife.com website. This video from the daily deal site makes me think that meh got bamboozled with the imposter pillows.
@thismyusername Like you, I've been unable to find anything on the web regarding unboxing/fluffing. They're cheap, so I'm putting one in the dryer with no heat to see how it compares to the other relatively untouched pillow. Here goes nothing...
@Jebbielax Well, interesting. I succeeded on two fronts. 1. Expediting the fluffing process and 2. Destruction.
Small hole in the inside cover of the pillow from tumbling around in the dryer for about 20 minutes with no heat. It won't ruin the thing, but I think my mistake was removing the zippered cover.
@Jebbielax the hole isn't big enough that I can see, really. I decided it wasn't worth quicker fluffing to continue using the dryer. I don't think these are necessarily "counterfit" as the video above suggests. At this point, I think it's just possible to mess these pillows up if you handle them incorrectly. By tearing the foam into "big" chunks, for instance. I now have one pillow that is a big rectangle of foam, and another that I've torn into little shreds. I'm going to leave them alone for a couple of days and compare again when the untouched pillow finishes rising...if it ever does.
@thismyusername Thanks for the info, that's great news. I have a memory foam topper that I really like. I'm hoping that the pillows turn out to be as good as it.
@forestoney I've worked on one this evening breaking up the chunks and now I'm just going to let it sit. If it's still too lumpy to sleep on by the weekend I'm just going to take the other to the dumpster rather than try to fight it out of that little bag. I was going to say "take it to Goodwill" but I think it'd be a little cruel to donate a lumpy, junk pillow. Fingers crossed!
@thismyusername Ditto. Magic formula appears to be a couple of rounds of hand fluffing and dryer tumbling. And a reminder to keep the outer cover on when you put them in the dryer. Mine are starting to resemble actual pillows!
ok many days later... I have just left them sitting out in their covers to help get rid of the memory foam smell a bit... they are ok.
I am used to using the serta shredded memory foam pillows as they are my most commonly used shredded foam pillow. I can't find a link to them on amazon (it's the old style case?) this item seems similar to them in a new case. I did not pay anything for them (that price they put on amazon is to make it seem like a deal when they "throw them in for free" on a deal for a mattress I suspect.)... anyway...
Compared to the serta memory foam pillows (which to be fair I am guessing serta has access to a LOT of cheap shredded memory foam ;) ) the bamboozle pillows are a bit under-filled.
The actual cover is pretty nice, I have already seen a run but that might be caused from extra time in a dryer undoing the super compression. Compared to the serta one, they are much thinner cases.. but they are not bad feeling when they are in a pillow case.
The inner foam net (the pillow inside the case) is considerably better on these 'bamboozle' pillows than the serta ones... the serta net ripped within the first week of receiving them... the 'bamboozle' net is going strong after a bunch of handling (once again breaking up the super-compressed chunks) and dryer tumbles outside and inside the case.
Which brings up cleaning... it seems with the upgraded net these pillows can be machine washed on cold (the serta ones clearly warn not to wash the inside net, only the case)... so that is a plus.
So final verdict? Typical under-filled memory foam chunk pillow... total rip off at $40 each. You can currently get much more overfilled washable for around $25 at the zon, and similar ones at savings clubs for 2 for $25.
I think at $20 for 2 I might have overpaid by around $10... I think these are worth $5 each but I am a cheap-skate, so...
My main sleeping pillow is a solid core memory foam with puffy cover (for side sleeping) and I prefer it immensely over any shredded memory foam pillow so to the spare they go.
I had a lot of luck with throwing them in the dryer one at a time on no-heat air fluff, but the real key has been breaking the lumps up manually. It helps a lot to take it out of the zippered case. Feel around for large clusters and then break them up into pieces.
@Moose Any idea if that's the "official" method of handling these things? That we're supposed to break/fluff them? I can't find anything authoritative online.
@forestoney Nothing official. The pillows are shredded foam and it seems to me that the shreds get all stuck together and can't get air in, so splitting up the foam chunks helps.
@Moose I've been repeatedly slamming mine in the floor like splitting logs with an axe motion. It seems to be breaking them up pretty good. Then toss them in the dryer. I feel like taking them down to the local gym and having some meat heads rough them up. Feels like I'm doing cardio since I bought four of them.
So for those having issues getting them to puff up. Pull them out of the bag/plastic, throw them in the dryer with NO heat and a few clean tennis balls and let er roll for 30-45 minutes. I just received them today and they are ready to use tonight!
@ccws Follow up after one night on them - even though they were fluffed, and the cases themselves felt 80-90% full my head still found every solid chunk in both pillows so there is still some fluffing to do. Besides the few solid pieces the pillows were quite nice. I threw them in the dryer for an hour again before leaving for work and hoping that they'll be 100% inflated when I get home.
Mine were super flat like everyone else's. While I was sitting on the couch I just started smashing the sides together and rolling the pillows up and down like a wave. Basically breaking up the slab of foam but not ripping any or opening up the case at all. Then i punched the ends together a few times. Think I'll leave them out to expand but they got a pretty decent head start this way.
Last time I bought shredded memory foam pillows they came uncompressed so they were immediately ready to go. I think these might still need to expand for a day. Also, the box these came in was big enough to ship fully fluffed pillows in... The warehouse staff could have done us a favor and cut them out of the duffel bags and let Smartpost fluff them for us :)
@aaronhurt imagine how bitter she would be at $40 each ;)
The hand breakup then time then hand breakup some more then more time then dryer with no heat did the trick for mine, they are now acting very much like my other shredded memory foam pillows.
I have seen mattresses that you have to let sit for 5 days to expand up properly, so don't give up yet.
Also am dealing with the flat pillows. After a few minutes they seemed a bit puffier than when shipped (maybe 1 inch think at widest to 2 inches?), but that growth has stalled and they seem to like being thin, slightly curled, and rather useless as pillows.
I may try dryer or hand break up, but I bought a bunch of these and I dont want to sit and deal with all of them.
Removing the outer pillowcase makes it easier to work with. I then grabbed both sides of the inner bag and pulled apart, so I had a big volume to mix the shredded pieces around in. After that, I agitated mine manually for a while, not really breaking up clumps but shaking it and moving stuff around. after ~25 minutes of admittedly half hearted work on this, I now have something that resembles a pillow. though it is truly underfilled & clumpy, reminds me of the terrible pillows my grandmother kept in her attic for when all 10 grandkids showed up.
I'm gonna let that one sit now, and see if time will make it plump up more. I think 25 minutes was overkill and I should have put it down after 5.
Same issue as others are reporting. After removing them from the packaging, un-rolling them, and leaving them sit for a few hours to expand, they've... well, not expanded. Still flat and rock hard, and they keep trying to curl back up.
@osodrac While washing them got them all nice and fluffy, they are still not both fully dry from the dryer a day later lol. Going through another cycle right now, then will prob just set them in the sun as it's 83 out today.
Broke up all the shredded pieces after taking the bamboo cover off, put cover back on and threw in dryer (no heat) for 20 minutes. Now after letting them sit for a couple of hours-they almost look normal. Now my wife can't hit me over the head with the flat hard pillows and injure me.
I had tossed mine in the dryer for about 30-40 minutes on low heat (don't have a no heat option), when they came out they were fluffier than when they went in but still had some spots that you could tell the foam was hugging the other foam and not wanting to let go, it had been so close for so long it was hard for it to give up that close bond it had. After manipulating it around to break up these foam marriages they seemed to puff up a lot better, I've been sleeping on one of them for a few days now and love it and it expands again every day and seems huge when I go to lay down on it again to sleep.
I put one (minus sausage casing and plastic) unrolled, in the garage as a control. The other went into the dryer, curled in reverse, with two dryer balls, for 40 minutes on no heat. #1 is still a plank after a few hours. #2 is about 6" thick but with large lumps still, and about half the pillow volume is filled. I beat up on the lumps until they were smaller, and now it's back in the dryer. Will repeat as needed, then both will air out for a few days.
@OldCatLady Pillow #2 is fully fluffed after a total of about 3 hours in the dryer with the dryer balls, as well as some manual breaking up of anything larger than an orange. The case is full. Probably don't have to wait for outgassing to complete, but I'm still going to let it sit for a day or so. Pillow #1 was still a plank, so clearly these aren't like mattress pads which will expand rapidly on their own. #1 is now in the dryer getting pounded.
Did anyone have difficulties getting these things out of their prison tubes? Mine just arrived today and after battling for five minutes to free the first one, I ended up ripping the cloth part of the tube. After that, all bets were off and I just went into Hulk mode, shredding both containers into fine powder.
Now it looks like I'll be putting them in the dryer as the preferred fluffing method.
@Tin_Foil If you use the rubber bumper dryer balls, the dryer works well. Wrestling them out of their sausage prisons was really hard. It would have been nice if the zippers went along the length.
@Thumperchick I'm not upset about it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Anyway, I'm just gonna leave them alone for a while and see what happens. If the lumps don't magically disappear, I'll use them in the dog's crate. She'll like that.
@Barney Did you manually break the interior rock down? It should have come with directions for deep tissue massage. Mine were slabs, then lumps, then after I spent awhile breaking up interior chunks, they're very satisfactory pillows. Hearing the noises the compressed foam makes as it breaks free is sort of like listening to ice floes.
@OldCatLady I did. After the washing/drying routine, I'd come home every evening and do my "pillow exercises". My pillows are still lumpy, just like my mashed potatoes.
@dseyer take them out of the pillowcases and put them in an empty dryer for an hour. if you have a small dryer you'll need to do one at a time. they are great but only after "processing" in this way.
very fluffy and nice. like a rock before putting in dryer though.
Looks like we were all screwed! My pillows came like two slabs of bacon. I tried most of the suggestions to no avail and finally called for a return and refund. Thy gave me the phone number of PCH Life at info@pchlife.com / 954-518-9777 I called them and was told To return the pillows to them with a check for $10 and thew would send replacements (((NO REFUND))) and I would also have to pay shipping charges to them....so...for about $25 I could get screwed again. I think i should just put the pillows back into the dryer with my wet snow boots and let them KICK THE HELL OUT OF PILLOWS????!! MEH YOU SCREWED US ALL!!!
Four days into expansion, starting to look like a pillow, just been fluffing and breaking up the hard bamboo foam or whatever it is. and it is starting to pillow. This was an annoying pillow, but you get what you pay for.
Fluff and Massage is all I have been doing. every 12-24 hours give it 10 minutes of your time.
I ordered pillows,they sent me frozen cannoli ! I've got six hours of labor in my $20 "pillows" and they still suck. I passed them through the dryer for 20 minutes and now I have a "pillow" with a big lump on each end and an 10 inch gap in the middle.
@jmbunkin When I first received them, I broke up the pieces a bit, then threw them in the dryer. I ended up with a pillow just like what you have now. I decided to wash and dry them this morning, and they look amazing!! It is taking a long time to dry them, but they fluffed up and feel super soft. I really thought all was lost, but the washer/dryer method works fantastically well.
@Disu Yes, cold water and no detergent. It was on the delicate cycle. Both came over full of water, so I took them to the tub real quick and squeezed out a bunch of water. I then threw them in the dryer on medium heat. I have read most people have used low heat, but low was just not working for me. I will post a pic shortly.
@usbank I live in an apartment and have a tiny washer in my unit. My pillows were full of water, so I took them to the tub and squeezed them a bit. Maybe someone with a full sized washer would not have this issue.
@conandlibrarian Thanks for the tip Conan but I washed one in the past(not one of these) and it got so heavy the washer would not spin and the washing machine kept shutting down. The pillow weighed about 25 lbs out of the washer. Sounds like you had much better luck.
(My Dog just said it all!) Having arthritis the pain became to great to give the pillow further massages so I decided to donate it to my dog for a bed..........He sat on it, pawed it, sniffed it, walked around it a couple of times and then hiked his leg and peed on it. I'm gonna send the still sealed one to my EX Wife as a "Thinking of you" Gift. Thanks MEH
Sweet, I always wanted a couple of sacks of concrete for my bed! I guess the fact that the box weighed almost 20 pounds and was big enough for a body should have been a clue. At least meh thoughtfully put air bags in the box to keep my "pillows" safe in transit.
Just not right. It's one thing to offer a piece of crap for sale and give a misleading description. (Chill, I didn't say lie, I said misleading) but altogether different event to offer a bath mat for sale and call it a pillow.
@Bkmack I'm like a broken record but they need to be run through the dryer for an hour. Empty the dryer and run one pillow at a time. They become incredibly fluffy and great
@afwaller I probably should have read all the comments, but thanks. Your instructions will be followed. It does seem pretty similar to stuff already tried but if it worked for you? How did you know to do that exact list of instructions? Just lucky? Persistent? Incredibility smart? Work at Livermore lab.? You sold the pillows to Meh? Just curious. Still have 3 lives left.
@Bkmack Someone several comments up recommended running them through the washer and dryer - it absolutely worked and fluffed them up for us. However, a few days and several dryer cycles later... they're still not 100% dry. So uh, you can totally get fluffy damp pillows! (If you live somewhere warm, you can probably dry them quickly by putting them out in the sun.)
@Bkmack I got mad because the pillows were terrible little bricks, came to the forum, and, crucially, read all the posts. Then I followed directions and was incredibly surprised by how well the dryer thing worked.
@afwaller There are over 100 comments on this post, many of which came after we received the item. If you expect users to read them all before complaining, you haven't been on the internet very long.
But on top of that, I expect items to come in a usable shape or at the least have instructions. These items were packed so poorly that they came unusable, no reasonable company should be doing that. To expect me to come onto the sales page & read 100 forum posts to figure out how to fix the item is ridiculous. And even when I did that - because I did - to expect me to follow the directions of a random user telling everyone to just rip apart the inside of the item is ludicrous. So I agree with @bkmack, in that this was a lousy experience.
Then again, ridiculous, ludicrous, and lousy is par for the course with meh. As a seasoned user, I feel its their brand. Good job guys! I'll keep buying the crap if you'll keep selling it.
@MrGlass my pillows came packed very well inside little tight rolled up carrying things. However, they were also extremely compressed. I agree there are a lot of comments, which is why I helpfully replied to several people with advice on what to do.
@MrGlass i think you nailed it. We know what we are getting into. They are genius at creating a disturbed segment of society that needs to apply self abuse. It's better than cutting, and self asphyxiation.
Like everyone else, the pillow started flat as a pancake! I let it alone for a week to rise, but no improvement.
As suggested in this post, I threw it in the dryer for 40 minutes and low heat. It worked! It fluffed up some, so we dried it again and now we have a beautifully full lumpy pillow.
I plan to massage it while watching TV to bring it full circle. I've never invested this much time to bring a pillow to where it should of started! $20 and 4 hours invested. I hope its worth it!
I followed the direction for one of the pillows. I kneaded it, and put it in the drier for 30 minutes on air fluff.
Nope. It's fluffier, but it's not a "pillow". It's a collection of foamy rocks bound in a bamboo cover. I tried sleeping with it, but I didn't like it.
The one is a disaster. I still haven't opened the other one. I have no idea what to do with it. I'd give it away to charity, but I don't have anyone I hate that much.
My wife has been very tolerant, if not amused, at my impulse purchases here at Meh. These pillows, tho, are the first time we've both felt conned. Seriously, did anyone at Meh actually see these in person before listing them?
@shahnm There are plenty of people, myself included, who have turned the slabs we received into perfectly serviceable pillows without much trouble at all. You could try harder.
@djslack Granted. And if the description had mentioned that a lot of that sort of effort would be required to make use of the pillows for their intended purpose, I would have happily clicked the Meh button and moved on. It's not that I cannot do the work. It's that I didn't intend to have to spend my time that way.
@shahnm well to be fair, selling us crap is sorta their business model... not sure conned is the term I would use when we're all willing fools.
Now think of those people who stood there for 30 minutes in the discount club listening to some fool tell them how great the bamboo pillow is and then talked them outta $40 each for them... that is a con job... I mean 40% of the cover material... that's not even 1/2 bamboo of something that is not even 1/2 of the product (not even 1/8th of the product)... the real con is the maker of this product here. ;)
I saw the email today. Took the small sides in each hand and acted like playing an accordion to break up the foam and then let them sit for hours. Then took them and put them in the dryer on no heat for 30 min. They seem to be pretty soft now. We shall see
Ok, I tried the drier thing after manually breaking up the foam and while it helped a little, they were still pretty much lumpy and horrible. Running them through the washing machine however, that did the trick. I ran them on the delicate cycle with cool water and then threw them in the drier again on low heat. It took about 2 hours in there to get them completely dry but it was so worth it. My pillows are now giant, soft, and fluffy. I'd buy these again.
I didn't get one of these, though If they had been available when i checked I might have.
ANYWAY. What about putting them in the dryer with a couple of tennis balls in socks? I hear that's what you do to keep your pillow from getting lumpy when drying it after washing it.
@Foxborn You couldn't have bought one, anyway. They were a twofer. See @studerc's masterpiece. And I used the rubber dryer balls on mine, which worked very well- after I manually broke the slab down a little.
I tried the 'only dry method' and it doesn't do much, even after hand ripping the foam clumps. Instead I removed the covers, did a warm wash, gentle cycle, no detergent (still opted for high spin to get water out), then dried for two hours in low heat with a tennis ball. I have front loaders, and both queen-sized pillows fit fine together.
After that, the innards feel like one big soft piece of foam - no more pieces or clumps.
Dear future Mehsters who see this item up for sale again at a higher price: One month in and these pillows are good enough to stay in our bedroom. They are very lofty but your head tends to mash a pretty resilient divot into them after just one night.
I tried wet+dry fluff with one pillow and just dry with the other. The wet fluff pillow is still ever so slightly damp even weeks later. Both pillows ended up getting homogeneously fluffy, but the wet+dry one is the most even.
They still do have a faint foam smell, but it's not powerful enough to keep me from sleeping on them every night. I would make this purchase again.
So I finally get the pillows usable and put them on our bed. Then my wife tells me that because the case is made from bamboo, and bamboo is a grass, it could exasperate her allergies. I thought these were hypoallergenic? Now I'm confused... Damn you @stardate820926
After washing, then drying, then drying, then drying again... we dried them a few more times - then they were finally dry. These things fluffed up crazy big and soft. I didn't have the same issue with lumpiness that several others did. While they're a bit too much for use as my regular pillow, they have one very good use for me. I get some wicked nerve pain from fibromyalgia - lately it's been manifesting in my calves, making sleep impossible. Propping the leg in pain on one of these pillows relieves that pain and helps alleviate it enough to sleep. I use the other one when I'm on the couch to elevate the leg and it helps then, too.
Specs
Condition: New
Warranty: 1 Year PCHLife
Estimated Delivery: 2/25 - 2/27
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
2x Pillows
Pictures
Pillows
Packaging
Inner stuff
Now try sleeping
Price Comparison
$199.98 List, $65.98 (for 2 Kings) at Amazon (no reviews, not sold by Amazon)
$55.98 (for 2 Queens) at Amazon (no reviews, not sold by Amazon)
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Warranty
90 days
Well shiiiiittt...Tuesday. Welp here we go again as we find ourselves at the corner of impulsivity and temptation as we near that janky ass pawn shop on the wrong end of town. As we turn the corner and near that alley we all secretly know too well we realize that it is silent. We peer down the dark alley to discover Twofer Tuesday fast asleep on a giant mound of pillows. So quiet, so peaceful, and such a waste of pillows. Like those pillows are fucking ruined with her sleeping on them. Don't touch them...dont even fucking look at them. If you want some...buy them here. She's pry got bed bugs or some shit.
Nice pillows though.
I'm just here for my meh button
Can you get bamboo curtains to match?
Can't Wait To Get these. I see them at the fair every year. This was a way better price!
@estradacarrie these might be made from refurbished bamboo.
I would try these if I needed pillows, but I don't need pillows. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I shalln't be Bamboozled meh
How do we know these are legit or counterfeit ones? In other words, there are many cheap knockoffs on ebay and they do not feel the same.
I'll sleep on it.
@robm Hope it was just a nap or ya missed out.
I actually have a memory foam mattress topper from this company, and it's honestly the best topper I've ever had. Not sure about these pillows, but thought I'd throw it out there anyway.
My neck is ready!
Same ones, less than stellar reviews: http://www.overstock.com/Bedding-Bath/PCHLife-Rayon-from-Bamboo-Shredded-Memory-Foam-Pillow/9929377/product.html
@opivp99 it sounds like the problem is the memory foam went "stale" for lack of a better word. has any diligent, or sleepy, meh employee tried these for themselves?
Ha! I already have 8 of these fucking things. I love them, but I sure don't need any more. Pro pillow hoarder tip: if these are like all the others, you'll need to let them sit for a while and then throw them in the dryer on low heat to get them to fluff. (they come rolled and super compressed) Worth the effort.
@Pony What do you like about them? I'm not really sure what qualities are desirable in a pillow.
@cutroil I love them as bolsters- I don't actually use them for sleeping. They're big, fluffy but firm, and make great back and arm rests for a chronic pain and fatigue sufferer.
@cutroil theyre mooshy, but supportive and soft and they dont get all hot
FGDHDGGD I JUST BOUGHT THESE FOR TWICE AS MUCH PS THEY'RE GREAT tbh I might buy two more
well I guess not then
Lord knows I already have enough shitty pillows from this site.
that said, i still bought some.
¯(ツ)/¯
You lost an arm in the write up. Poor man. His hand is just floating there.
@Nexar Bobby Tables strikes again. Or, you know, the exact opposite.
Nobody will buy a shredded memory foam pillow you say? I beg to differ
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EINBSEW/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_121_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41-zKVKjJCL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C100_&refRID=1D631J9ND8YZNTN23C43
@eyebrows I have two of those very pillows and love them. Was really hard paying $50 for a pillow but the reviews convinced me. Easily the best pillows I've ever had. One of them started to go a little flat about a week ago and I threw it in the dryer for 10 minutes and it was good as new. Probably going to pick up the two here today as extras.
0 Reviews on Amazon, just how I like my purchases...
@rapiollymega zero reviews or 20 fake reviews - makes no diff these days on Amazon.
yikes the queens sold quick
@onikaze Yep, oh well, how much bigger could they really be?
waxy-teeming-way. In for one pair, may get another. Have one of these already. Won't sleep without it. Can't. Won't.
@JustKen apathetic-active-match. Couldn't help myself. Had to get the King this time, but pulled the trigger anyway.
A moment of silence for the fictional people that paid that inflated MSRP
Well, bought a set. We will see how comfortable these are when they arrive.
wearisome-valuable-carpenter. << Exactly what it says on the tin. Except I'm not a carpenter..., though most of my family thinks I'm not valuable enough to talk to much less acknowledge and I am growing quite wearisome of it.
So apparently there was just 1 set of Queen sized?
@Aractor Yes and i got them. Sorry about that.
@readnj @Aractor Sorry(ish). Also got one. So maybe 2 sets.
Are these considered "firm support", "medium" or "luxury" (plushy soft "down alternative")?
I bought an expensive memory foam pillow at Sam's Club a couple of years ago and it's like sleeping with a brick under my head. I guess I don't have enough brains in there to squish down into the pillow. I had an awesome super soft down pillow a few years ago that I LOVED, but after a while all those little eider feathers just sort of balled up into a lumpy mess.
@ruouttaurmind Thank you for that actual LOL!
@ruouttaurmind I hope you ordered these. I hated the brick models, but the shredded ones are great.
@ImTheDoctor i have some shredded ones that are hard, i didn't get in soon enough to get these, but I'd wonder if these are soft or firm shredded memory foam pillows as well.
@erthwjim These aren't hard, but not soft like down either. I beat on mine to shape it for my head, then it pretty much stays in shape all night. You don't sink into them like a marshmallow, but you can shape them easily. Hope that helps for next time!
@ImTheDoctor where can I buy a marshmallow big enough to sink into, must know...
@ImTheDoctor Well I just wish they'd put more in the description about the firmness of these pillows. The ones I bought were off some other site and the firmness was not included, I just assumed all bamboo memory foam shredded pillows were the same. Unfortunately my assumptions left me with a pillow like a brick.
Already sold out of the queen size??!! Whathafu? Now I feel like I reeeeaallyy lost out. Well played, meh.
Restricted weird pudding
@Nate311 hey puddin'
Does anyone know how these compare to the MYPillow advertised on TV?
@AGentleman they cost around 100 dollars less. ;)
habitual-glorious-gremlin
mostly king size inventory. does meh even thing about shit before they buy stuff to sell?
@upbeatanime I'm pretty sure they think about it lots and buy up the kings that don't sell other places because they're less desirable and bundle them up to sell at low prices on tuesdays.
Hmm, do I want king or queen? All out of queen? Okay, king it is. That VMP gets you every time.
Wife and oldest kid have been up puking all night...running out of sheets and pillows...hope these ship fast!
@Hskrjer99 That's probably the only thing that sucks about having kids. Sick kids. Well, perhaps not the only thing.
Not a flashlight, speaker, or vacuum. I'm in!
Target has thm, but not in stores. http://www.target.com/p/bluestone-rayon-from-bamboo-memory-foam-pillow-white/-/A-50557873?ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=50557873&ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google_pla_df&CPNG=PLA_Bedding%2BShopping&adgroup=Bed+Pillow_SC&LID=700000001170770pgs&network=g&device=t&location=9011562&gclid=CjwKEAiAi4a2BRCu_eXo3O_k3hUSJABmN9N1jTHJpyuTbdSDA8aPZNhsw3gENED83qQsMe6UhaeW3BoCpQ7w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
I really wanted the queen, but settled for the king. Hey @hollboll, @galmaegi, @moose, @mehcus, if any queen orders get cancelled, feel free to send them my way ;)
@conandlibrarian can i hijack your thread to make the same comment. Bought kings after the Twofer Tuesday write up since the queens were already gone.
Or shit...just tack on an order of Queens to my purchase. These are nice.
@studerc You sacrificed your Queens for the greater good twofer write-up you did.
@conandlibrarian If you manage to finagle some queens, I'll take the kings. Sold out of everything by the time I was able to check the site. I have a king size bed so that's actually my preference. Weird huh?
Just saw these at a BJ warehouse. Two for USD$49.99. Good deal, meh!
I'm already laying on one. Its so comfy. I bought the one I currently have (Queen size) for $50. So getting two King size pillows for less than half the price is awesome.
BAMBOO FIGHT!!
measured-gregarious-way
These pillows rule, I paid 50 for a queen a while back and to get more? holy shit
I have seen people trying to sell these at some inflated price at sams many times, I never stick around to see if they are $60... or just wait $50... or what if I told you $40 each... seems since mypillow came around selling overpriced pillows is all the rage.
for $10 each... bought some... probably overpaid by $8 each :)
Settled for King. Gotta weird sized bed anyway. European Queen, between a Queen and King.
@halnwheels Billy Ocean and I each have a Caribbean Queen. Now we're sharing the same dream...
@halnwheels I wish I had a European Queen to sleep with, I mean in!
I'll bite - maybe these will work to replace my beat up unicorn pillow pets and various knock offs, whose job is to help prop up and/or cuddle me on pain days.
compromising-tiresome-face
Meh, I have way too many pillows. If I have another box of pillows sent to the house I may be minus a husband. Oh, but wait! You've thoughtfully timed this sale for right after Valentine's Day and just a week before my birthday, so I can buy whatever I want! Saved the day again. Thanks, Meh! Now I hope these pillows are really comfy since I won't be able to get any more for at least a year.
I had sheets made out of bamboo fabric. They were lovely and soft but I would describe the fabric as having a shorter life span than cotton or a cotton blend. I don't know if that would be a factor with pillows because they would be protected by pillowcases. Also I don't get rid of sheets for decorating reasons, I use them until something interferes with their functionality. The bamboo sheets lasted for years before the bottom sheet tore.
They are nothing to sneeze about
I really, really hope that Meh has some king sized pillowcases up next, because a 36" long pillow is huge, and I am a pillowcase picky person.
@OldCatLady this was all an elaborate ruse to get pillow case sales up at Bed Bath and Beyonder.
If I buy these, will the table-hawkers who seem to be everywhere pushing these stop harassing me?
@RedOak no... have you ever stuck around to find out what they are selling for? I haven't... :)
@thismyusername no, I avoid eye contact and keep walking. Same thing with the DirectTV hawkers at Costco and SAMs (or I simply watch their inquisitive faces as I say "OTA").
@thismyusername @RedOak They were selling for $40 each last time I saw them at Sam's Club. My wife tried them and quickly returned them.
Amiable-Beige-Lace
Oh for fucks sake... Sold out right as I hit order??? GAAAAAH!!
No, wait....
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
@haydesigner you rang?
Saved me $20 for something that I don't need. Thanks impulse buyers!
I own two Queen sized already. Yep, I paid $30 each for them a year ago. They are great, but do go flat after a time and need a good fluffing. My neck pain went from 8 to 2 on the 'how bad does it hurt scale'. In for two King sized that I don't need! creamy-annoyed-assassin
I tried from midnight until they sold out to purchase a set of king pillows and it refused to take my billing address although it has never changed and i've used it many times.
Nice... one thing that I actually need: Sold out.
Damn, I saw this right at 11 and figured I could wait to buy when I got home. 10 minutes too late.
I approve of seeing more mannequin heads on here
Memory foam sucks! To get the best from a pillow search for and buy authentic Sobakawa buckwheat shell pillows. These are okay for some but they do get hot on your head while sleeping (it's the foam that does it). The shells do make a little noise but you get used to it quickly and then sleep right through it.
@unkabob
Are they still alive? Eek.
@RedOak Its them screaming as you crush the life out of them....
@RedOak .. Nah, your gourd crushes them like pecan shells but there's millions of 'em so it takes years to grind 'em down. The only draw back is you can't wash the pillow but you can wash the case by taking the shells out then replacing after it dries.. (not a quick task).
Meh. Love my buckwheat pillow. Way more versatile, just as pliable, comfy, and never gets hot. And not filled with fluffy plastic shreds. Just refill with cleaned quality hulls whenever. They grow more. Beans72 for me.
So it's "bamboo" because they used cellulose extracted from bamboo fibers to mix with with a strong base, followed by treatment of that solution with carbon disulfide to give a xanthate derivative. The xanthate is then converted back to a cellulose fiber in a subsequent step, and made into a pillowcase, which is then stuffed with shreds of "viscoelastic" polyurethane foam.
That's seriously green! Save the planet!! Woo!
@droopus I wish I had read your wonderful treatise before they sold out. Now I feel like I missed something really important.
Get some more, Meh...
The FTC actually does not allow these to be marketed as "Bamboo". Meh should pull this illegal product description listing.
Jake K got a new job?
@MasterK999 @nadroj ouch. That FTC piece is pretty unambiguous, even if the "bamboo" description above for this product is.
The PCH site carefully walks the does-it-contain-direct-bamboo or fibers-processed-from-bamboo (no actual bamboo properties surviving) line but the Amazon page description does say rayon from bamboo fibers.
Lacking clarity, this smacks of a tin-man product.
Peacefully resting on no-better or worse-covered pillows in the meantime... and will keep the bamboo on the floor and cutting board where it belongs.
Missed the pillows, now I'm going to be sleepless :'(
Damn. Wish I hadn't missed these. I do have a problem with mildew in my pillows. I wash my hair before bed but don't dry it. It's super thick and just shy of waist length.
@MsELizardBeth Now you are just bragging! But tell me more.
@ImTheDoctor I'm not good at being girly, so it's basically always just down. It was red when I was Penny and my son was Dr. Horrible Halloween 2014.
I hope these come back even though they sold out... I have felt these pillows before and I'd love to get some.
Woot has them or what appears to be identical for $34.99 / 2 + ship. So if you missed it and you want to pay more ....... this is for you !
Dang! Now I'm stuck with chewing bamboo on my so-so pillow.
Buyers Remorse in 3....2....1....
hey, at this price maybe not. We paid $40 each for these at Sams and returned them the next day. Like most memory foam they only compress exactly where your weight falls so you're head ends up encased in foam. The pillow almost touched my checks when I laid on my back. This may be good for a mattress but not a pillow.
Sam's and Costco both have the shredded memory foam pillows in a two pack for $9.99, just not the "bamboo" ones
Well godammit. Right when I'm ready to cancel my vmp.
Bamboo is awesome but for whatever reason has been a marketing disaster.
The North Face made a bunch of bamboo shirts that were silky smooth, wicked like no tomorrow, and never got funky, but the discontinued them after one year.
There's a struggling company called TASC Performance, base in New Orleans, that makes amazing workout gear. Kinda pricey, but after trying them out, i wound up pitching every Hanes, fruit of the loom, Nike, and Under Armor tee I owned. Bought maybe two dozen tees for workout and as under shirts, plus another dozen for peejays. Only thing i ever wear for a base layer now. The stuff just works. And now all of that other dry-fit stuff feels like steel wool. But the company just isn't catching on.
Sweet, A Sellout... that I purchased! :) They shall go next to my other MEh pillows (I stocked up on the 4 packs last time... I Think I maxed out the purchase.) The 4 packs we purchased are great for about 2-3 months, then they flatten... and time to go to the next one... Which isn't bad considering the cost. However a part of me dies every time I have to throw away a pillow due to this. :( (The environment doesn't like the throw away culture.)
@sohmageek use them for insulation somewhere?
The Malevolent Order Name Generator is being very cautious with me lately. Wonder why. reasonable-willing-history looks like this, because I'm saving the good stuff for tomorrow.
Can't believe I missed this deal! :/
dammit! something I actually really wanted. get more of these, please!
Whispering Horrified Wizard
I saw these too late, and unfortunately was unable to get any sniff, sniff. They look awesome, and I would love to expand my bamboo clothing collection; I have bamboo socks, and they are the most comfortable things in the world.
Edit: I realize pillows are not exactly clothing...
Can I get 1 for 20? lol do this sale again these are awesome jawsome!
Dang, I could have used these.
thank you aMeh.ricans, i didn't need these and was about to come back to buy them, well done!
Mine came in a couple of days ago, I immediately opened them up to let them expand (I have a memory foam mattress from the mothership too) and the pillows are staying flat and really hard. Anyone else having this problem? Is there a way to get them to expand and fluff up?
@TBKHomeworld I'm having this problem too. I've tried bouncing them around, fluffing them by hand, tossing them in the dryer on air dry, and singing Billy Ocean to them. No response. Heartless pillows. I'll keep you posted if anything brings them to life.
@Badfilms I got mine to fluff a little bit, but it's lump as all getout.
@TBKHomeworld one fluffed in the dryer and one stayed flat. The one that fluffed is all lump. Real MEHmory foam. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@TBKHomeworld I'm having the same problem. I was hoping when I saw this thread bumped that someone had a solution
@TBKHomeworld Mine came today, been a few hours and still flat. Taking them out of that bag was a pain until I just decided to cut it.
@0oiiiiio0 Agreed on taking them out of the bag. Cutting is a good idea but I wanted to keep the source bags to re-use for other stuff. My pillows have yet to inflate (I will try the dryer trick everyone is talking about) and if they don't then I guess I can just re-use the bamboo case on my feather pillow. Disappointed in this meh deal. :(
@TBKHomeworld you have to break up the foam by hand... it could take years to expand in that mega compressed form they forced it into.
@TBKHomeworld I think you are supposed to throw it in the dryer for 15 minutes.
@TBKHomeworld i go both of mine to expand you have to break the foam up into the individual squares. I did that then threw them in the dryer and they are all puffed up.
@Beatheistitsfun I ended up throwing them in the washer on 'bulky' item setting and then in the dryer. It fluffed them up and I cannot feel any hard lumps anymore. Glad everyone was able to figure out a way to make them work better. :)
For those of you who missed these.. not quite sure they are EXACTLY the same.. but as someone mentioned in the past, staples seems to be following Meh's lead...
http://www.staples.com/Bamboo-Rayon-Memory-Foam-Pillow-by-Remedy/product_1978211
@mikibell no one should be missing these.
This thread is about the time it will take for mine to puff up. I posted this at 11:06pm central on Feb 22, 2016.
Current status: very flat and curled.
ok experiment update... 1:04am
1 pillow left flat and on it's own - no significant puffing of pillow, still quite flat and curly
2nd pillow I manually broke up the memory foam pieces to see if more surface area would help - no longer curly but still not puffy
@thismyusername same here. Not quite sure what to do at this point
@selfmadelegend give it time, starting to see results
update 2:00am the one I broke up is starting to seem fluffier, breaking up the other pillow both now both removed from "bamboo" covers.
while looking at the one I am getting ready to break up the foam in I am seeing a slight puff to one side... so it appears that it does fluff up slowly if left in a giant mass and outside of the bamboo cover.
the broken up one continues to expand slowly
@thismyusername - Hope they improve so you can eventually get some sleep, or you might have to resort to other methods.
@KDemo I'm good, these are spares, and not my first time with shredded foam pillows... but... I will say these are the most compressed I've ever seen any memory foam compressed... like really compressed... like zero air in there... pretty impressive.
They were shipped in a big ol' box with lots of bagged air to keep their extreme lack of air from moving around in the big ol' box... which might be ironic? :)
@thismyusername these things will not inflate on their own. Hand shredding just results in lumpy awful pillows. No directions in the bag, on the pillow, or even on the phclife.com website. This video from the daily deal site makes me think that meh got bamboozled with the imposter pillows.
@thismyusername Like you, I've been unable to find anything on the web regarding unboxing/fluffing. They're cheap, so I'm putting one in the dryer with no heat to see how it compares to the other relatively untouched pillow. Here goes nothing...
@forestoney you are a brave man. Thanks for taking one for the team.
@Jebbielax Well, interesting. I succeeded on two fronts. 1. Expediting the fluffing process and 2. Destruction.
Small hole in the inside cover of the pillow from tumbling around in the dryer for about 20 minutes with no heat. It won't ruin the thing, but I think my mistake was removing the zippered cover.
@forestoney does the stuffing match the sampling from the video above?
@forestoney
@Jebbielax the hole isn't big enough that I can see, really. I decided it wasn't worth quicker fluffing to continue using the dryer. I don't think these are necessarily "counterfit" as the video above suggests. At this point, I think it's just possible to mess these pillows up if you handle them incorrectly. By tearing the foam into "big" chunks, for instance. I now have one pillow that is a big rectangle of foam, and another that I've torn into little shreds. I'm going to leave them alone for a couple of days and compare again when the untouched pillow finishes rising...if it ever does.
@forestoney @Jebbielax @thismyusername Did you get queen or king pillows?
@forestoney I tore the inside cover of the pillow as well. I did it while trying to fluff up the pillow manually (no dryer).
Time will tell I guess, but currently I'm quite disappointed with the pillows.
@Barney King
@Barney queen
Update 6:45pm 2/23/2016
Well they are still fluffing up slowly, I will toss them the dryer on no heat and see what happens.
@thismyusername Shoot, I was hoping that the queen pillows would be okay.
@Barney They are pretty puffy at this point, I tossed em in the dryer on air tumble for 20 mins.
This is pretty common for memory foam in general, I think they just compressed these a bit too much to reduce storage costs. :)
I'll give em a day or two before using them to let the smell of memory foam dissipate a bit more.
7:37pm 2/23/2016
They are pretty puffed up after 20 mins in the dryer on no heat.
@thismyusername Thanks for the info, that's great news. I have a memory foam topper that I really like. I'm hoping that the pillows turn out to be as good as it.
@forestoney I've worked on one this evening breaking up the chunks and now I'm just going to let it sit. If it's still too lumpy to sleep on by the weekend I'm just going to take the other to the dumpster rather than try to fight it out of that little bag. I was going to say "take it to Goodwill" but I think it'd be a little cruel to donate a lumpy, junk pillow. Fingers crossed!
@Barney King
@thismyusername Ditto. Magic formula appears to be a couple of rounds of hand fluffing and dryer tumbling. And a reminder to keep the outer cover on when you put them in the dryer. Mine are starting to resemble actual pillows!
ok many days later... I have just left them sitting out in their covers to help get rid of the memory foam smell a bit... they are ok.
I am used to using the serta shredded memory foam pillows as they are my most commonly used shredded foam pillow. I can't find a link to them on amazon (it's the old style case?) this item seems similar to them in a new case. I did not pay anything for them (that price they put on amazon is to make it seem like a deal when they "throw them in for free" on a deal for a mattress I suspect.)... anyway...
Compared to the serta memory foam pillows (which to be fair I am guessing serta has access to a LOT of cheap shredded memory foam ;) ) the bamboozle pillows are a bit under-filled.
The actual cover is pretty nice, I have already seen a run but that might be caused from extra time in a dryer undoing the super compression. Compared to the serta one, they are much thinner cases.. but they are not bad feeling when they are in a pillow case.
The inner foam net (the pillow inside the case) is considerably better on these 'bamboozle' pillows than the serta ones... the serta net ripped within the first week of receiving them... the 'bamboozle' net is going strong after a bunch of handling (once again breaking up the super-compressed chunks) and dryer tumbles outside and inside the case.
Which brings up cleaning... it seems with the upgraded net these pillows can be machine washed on cold (the serta ones clearly warn not to wash the inside net, only the case)... so that is a plus.
So final verdict?
Typical under-filled memory foam chunk pillow... total rip off at $40 each. You can currently get much more overfilled washable for around $25 at the zon, and similar ones at savings clubs for 2 for $25.
I think at $20 for 2 I might have overpaid by around $10... I think these are worth $5 each but I am a cheap-skate, so...
My main sleeping pillow is a solid core memory foam with puffy cover (for side sleeping) and I prefer it immensely over any shredded memory foam pillow so to the spare they go.
I've had mine unwrapped for 3 days with no improvement
@Jebbielax break up the clumps!
I had a lot of luck with throwing them in the dryer one at a time on no-heat air fluff, but the real key has been breaking the lumps up manually. It helps a lot to take it out of the zippered case. Feel around for large clusters and then break them up into pieces.
@Moose Any idea if that's the "official" method of handling these things? That we're supposed to break/fluff them? I can't find anything authoritative online.
@forestoney Nothing official. The pillows are shredded foam and it seems to me that the shreds get all stuck together and can't get air in, so splitting up the foam chunks helps.
@Moose I've been repeatedly slamming mine in the floor like splitting logs with an axe motion. It seems to be breaking them up pretty good. Then toss them in the dryer. I feel like taking them down to the local gym and having some meat heads rough them up. Feels like I'm doing cardio since I bought four of them.
the bedding department will be with you shortly
we're were sending out a representative to help pillow fluffing immediately
@Lotsofgoats you have a magic power to find gifs like this
@Jebbielax it involves a lot of dark goat magic, now if you'll excuse me I must deliver seventy human souls to G'vorlæt
So for those having issues getting them to puff up. Pull them out of the bag/plastic, throw them in the dryer with NO heat and a few clean tennis balls and let er roll for 30-45 minutes. I just received them today and they are ready to use tonight!
@ccws Follow up after one night on them - even though they were fluffed, and the cases themselves felt 80-90% full my head still found every solid chunk in both pillows so there is still some fluffing to do. Besides the few solid pieces the pillows were quite nice. I threw them in the dryer for an hour again before leaving for work and hoping that they'll be 100% inflated when I get home.
Mine were super flat like everyone else's. While I was sitting on the couch I just started smashing the sides together and rolling the pillows up and down like a wave. Basically breaking up the slab of foam but not ripping any or opening up the case at all. Then i punched the ends together a few times. Think I'll leave them out to expand but they got a pretty decent head start this way.
Last time I bought shredded memory foam pillows they came uncompressed so they were immediately ready to go. I think these might still need to expand for a day. Also, the box these came in was big enough to ship fully fluffed pillows in... The warehouse staff could have done us a favor and cut them out of the duffel bags and let Smartpost fluff them for us :)
Running into the still flat situation.... Going to follow some of the ideas. Wife is bitter.
@aaronhurt imagine how bitter she would be at $40 each ;)
The hand breakup then time then hand breakup some more then more time then dryer with no heat did the trick for mine, they are now acting very much like my other shredded memory foam pillows.
I have seen mattresses that you have to let sit for 5 days to expand up properly, so don't give up yet.
@aaronhurt
Not sure how wife tastes fits with pillow issue.
Mine have been super flat for about 5 hours. I'm going to give it a couple days and monitor this thread before I make my next move.
Sadly I took mine to a pillow fight and I think I killed four people.
These things are great if you like to rest your head on a tombstone
@jmbunkin Goddamnit, I scrolled down to this and literally shot hot coffee out my nose.
Also am dealing with the flat pillows. After a few minutes they seemed a bit puffier than when shipped (maybe 1 inch think at widest to 2 inches?), but that growth has stalled and they seem to like being thin, slightly curled, and rather useless as pillows.
I may try dryer or hand break up, but I bought a bunch of these and I dont want to sit and deal with all of them.
Removing the outer pillowcase makes it easier to work with. I then grabbed both sides of the inner bag and pulled apart, so I had a big volume to mix the shredded pieces around in. After that, I agitated mine manually for a while, not really breaking up clumps but shaking it and moving stuff around. after ~25 minutes of admittedly half hearted work on this, I now have something that resembles a pillow. though it is truly underfilled & clumpy, reminds me of the terrible pillows my grandmother kept in her attic for when all 10 grandkids showed up.
I'm gonna let that one sit now, and see if time will make it plump up more. I think 25 minutes was overkill and I should have put it down after 5.
Same issue as others are reporting. After removing them from the packaging, un-rolling them, and leaving them sit for a few hours to expand, they've... well, not expanded. Still flat and rock hard, and they keep trying to curl back up.
Man, these pillows are awesome with my gravel mattress.
(I'll try the dryer + hand fluff steps next.)
I threw mine in washer. Figured that would get the foam to expand. It worked. Then to the dryer on low heat. They are great. No lumps.
@osodrac are you for real?
@DEVILS for reals. I'd add pic but don't know how.
@osodrac that is so crazy it just might work...once
@osodrac . Save the picture, then download it to imgur.com. Copy the direct link provided and paste it here in the forum.
(TC edit - FTFY)
@osodrac What settings did you wash them on?
@harveydanger delicate cycle warm water. Then low heat in dryer.
@osodrac While washing them got them all nice and fluffy, they are still not both fully dry from the dryer a day later lol. Going through another cycle right now, then will prob just set them in the sun as it's 83 out today.
@osodrac Thanks!
@0oiiiiio0 I gave it 2 rounds in the dryer also.
@osodrac Thanks for sharing. I ran mine through the washer and 2 rounds in the dryer with my dryer balls and they're perfectly fluffy!
Broke up all the shredded pieces after taking the bamboo cover off, put cover back on and threw in dryer (no heat) for 20 minutes. Now after letting them sit for a couple of hours-they almost look normal. Now my wife can't hit me over the head with the flat hard pillows and injure me.
I had tossed mine in the dryer for about 30-40 minutes on low heat (don't have a no heat option), when they came out they were fluffier than when they went in but still had some spots that you could tell the foam was hugging the other foam and not wanting to let go, it had been so close for so long it was hard for it to give up that close bond it had. After manipulating it around to break up these foam marriages they seemed to puff up a lot better, I've been sleeping on one of them for a few days now and love it and it expands again every day and seems huge when I go to lay down on it again to sleep.
I put one (minus sausage casing and plastic) unrolled, in the garage as a control. The other went into the dryer, curled in reverse, with two dryer balls, for 40 minutes on no heat. #1 is still a plank after a few hours. #2 is about 6" thick but with large lumps still, and about half the pillow volume is filled. I beat up on the lumps until they were smaller, and now it's back in the dryer. Will repeat as needed, then both will air out for a few days.
@OldCatLady
@OldCatLady Ok, that was supposed to be:
@sammydog01 I liked the first one, actually.
@OldCatLady Pillow #2 is fully fluffed after a total of about 3 hours in the dryer with the dryer balls, as well as some manual breaking up of anything larger than an orange. The case is full. Probably don't have to wait for outgassing to complete, but I'm still going to let it sit for a day or so. Pillow #1 was still a plank, so clearly these aren't like mattress pads which will expand rapidly on their own. #1 is now in the dryer getting pounded.
Did anyone have difficulties getting these things out of their prison tubes? Mine just arrived today and after battling for five minutes to free the first one, I ended up ripping the cloth part of the tube. After that, all bets were off and I just went into Hulk mode, shredding both containers into fine powder.
Now it looks like I'll be putting them in the dryer as the preferred fluffing method.
@Tin_Foil did putting them in the dryer work well?
@Tin_Foil If you use the rubber bumper dryer balls, the dryer works well. Wrestling them out of their sausage prisons was really hard. It would have been nice if the zippers went along the length.
@OldCatLady I cut the pillow with a scissor trying to get it off.
This was my most disappointing purchase.
@Barney your friends*
Sorry :(
@Barney must not buy much here ehh? heheh
@thismyusername I buy through another account and have over 80 purchases.
@Barney and this is the most disappointing??? You must make better choices than me. ;)
@Barney :( Did you try the trick of running them through the washer and dryer? It worked really well for mine.
@Thumperchick Yep. Try as I might, I have not been able to delumpify my pillows and now the dog is asking for her tennis balls back. -sigh-
@Barney Aww, that super sucks. I'm sorry. Lumpy pillows are no fun.
@Thumperchick I'm not upset about it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Anyway, I'm just gonna leave them alone for a while and see what happens. If the lumps don't magically disappear, I'll use them in the dog's crate. She'll like that.
@Barney Did you manually break the interior rock down? It should have come with directions for deep tissue massage. Mine were slabs, then lumps, then after I spent awhile breaking up interior chunks, they're very satisfactory pillows. Hearing the noises the compressed foam makes as it breaks free is sort of like listening to ice floes.
@OldCatLady I did. After the washing/drying routine, I'd come home every evening and do my "pillow exercises". My pillows are still lumpy, just like my mashed potatoes.
@Barney I like lumpy mashed potatoes, probably not lumpy pillows though.
@Ignorant I guess you would like my mashed potatoes, they always have huge lumps, just like my pillows.
Day 4: I'm starting to suspect I've purchased a bamboo covered rock...
@dseyer gotta break up the shredded stuffing or it will never get air and will remain compressed!
@dseyer take them out of the pillowcases and put them in an empty dryer for an hour. if you have a small dryer you'll need to do one at a time. they are great but only after "processing" in this way.
very fluffy and nice. like a rock before putting in dryer though.
Hahahaha. This is the same product that caused my ugly break up with woot:
https://meh.com/forum/topics/help-me-solve-this-moral-dilemma-with-woot
I should have warned you suckers!
I am thinking about letting my cats do the job for me. @@
What? you want two bimbo pillows on Tuesday????
Looks like we were all screwed! My pillows came like two slabs of bacon. I tried most of the suggestions to no avail and finally called for a return and refund. Thy gave me the phone number of PCH Life at info@pchlife.com / 954-518-9777 I called them and was told To return the pillows to them with a check for $10 and thew would send replacements (((NO REFUND))) and I would also have to pay shipping charges to them....so...for about $25 I could get screwed again. I think i should just put the pillows back into the dryer with my wet snow boots and let them KICK THE HELL OUT OF PILLOWS????!! MEH YOU SCREWED US ALL!!!
@swadly bend the pillows, take them out of the pillow cases and toss them in the dryer on low heat for an hour. perfectly fluffy.
@swadly yea mine are typical shredded foam pillows... guess I lucked out?
I did hand breakup of the super compressed shreds and dryer on no heat (tumble) for a while.
Wonder if some got too hot and fused together.... hmm...
Four days into expansion, starting to look like a pillow, just been fluffing and breaking up the hard bamboo foam or whatever it is. and it is starting to pillow. This was an annoying pillow, but you get what you pay for.
Fluff and Massage is all I have been doing. every 12-24 hours give it 10 minutes of your time.
Broke up chunks..dryer with low heat for 30 minutes..let rest and continued to break chunks and do the dryer..have to say after a week its not bad
@jdjj929 I started at low heat, but cranked it up to medium. I think it made a big difference, and does not look like it caused any damage.
I ordered pillows,they sent me frozen cannoli ! I've got six hours of labor in my $20 "pillows" and they still suck. I passed them through the dryer for 20 minutes and now I have a "pillow" with a big lump on each end and an 10 inch gap in the middle.
@jmbunkin When I first received them, I broke up the pieces a bit, then threw them in the dryer. I ended up with a pillow just like what you have now. I decided to wash and dry them this morning, and they look amazing!! It is taking a long time to dry them, but they fluffed up and feel super soft. I really thought all was lost, but the washer/dryer method works fantastically well.
@conandlibrarian how did you wash them? just regular cold water w no detergent to rinse it out is good enough?
@Disu Yes, cold water and no detergent. It was on the delicate cycle. Both came over full of water, so I took them to the tub real quick and squeezed out a bunch of water. I then threw them in the dryer on medium heat. I have read most people have used low heat, but low was just not working for me. I will post a pic shortly.
@Disu I have not really fluffed them up yet. They are super soft.
@conandlibrarian looks good! Can we switch you mail them to me?? Lol jk
So how did you drian the water out? Would the washer automatic drain squeeze them too hard? Or ill have to drain the water by hand?
@usbank I live in an apartment and have a tiny washer in my unit. My pillows were full of water, so I took them to the tub and squeezed them a bit. Maybe someone with a full sized washer would not have this issue.
@conandlibrarian you said unit.
@conandlibrarian Thanks for the tip Conan but I washed one in the past(not one of these) and it got so heavy the washer would not spin and the washing machine kept shutting down. The pillow weighed about 25 lbs out of the washer. Sounds like you had much better luck.
Guess living on the prefered coast is not all that bad after all.
(My Dog just said it all!) Having arthritis the pain became to great to give the pillow further massages so I decided to donate it to my dog for a bed..........He sat on it, pawed it, sniffed it, walked around it a couple of times and then hiked his leg and peed on it. I'm gonna send the still sealed one to my EX Wife as a "Thinking of you" Gift.
Thanks MEH
Sweet, I always wanted a couple of sacks of concrete for my bed! I guess the fact that the box weighed almost 20 pounds and was big enough for a body should have been a clue. At least meh thoughtfully put air bags in the box to keep my "pillows" safe in transit.
@robson put them in the dryer for an hour. they are really really good once you do that. I wish I could have bought more.
Just not right. It's one thing to offer a piece of crap for sale and give a misleading description. (Chill, I didn't say lie, I said misleading) but altogether different event to offer a bath mat for sale and call it a pillow.
@Bkmack I'm like a broken record but they need to be run through the dryer for an hour. Empty the dryer and run one pillow at a time. They become incredibly fluffy and great
@afwaller I probably should have read all the comments, but thanks. Your instructions will be followed. It does seem pretty similar to stuff already tried but if it worked for you? How did you know to do that exact list of instructions? Just lucky? Persistent? Incredibility smart? Work at Livermore lab.? You sold the pillows to Meh? Just curious. Still have 3 lives left.
@Bkmack Someone several comments up recommended running them through the washer and dryer - it absolutely worked and fluffed them up for us. However, a few days and several dryer cycles later... they're still not 100% dry. So uh, you can totally get fluffy damp pillows! (If you live somewhere warm, you can probably dry them quickly by putting them out in the sun.)
@Thumperchick gracias
@Bkmack I got mad because the pillows were terrible little bricks, came to the forum, and, crucially, read all the posts. Then I followed directions and was incredibly surprised by how well the dryer thing worked.
@afwaller There are over 100 comments on this post, many of which came after we received the item. If you expect users to read them all before complaining, you haven't been on the internet very long.
But on top of that, I expect items to come in a usable shape or at the least have instructions. These items were packed so poorly that they came unusable, no reasonable company should be doing that. To expect me to come onto the sales page & read 100 forum posts to figure out how to fix the item is ridiculous. And even when I did that - because I did - to expect me to follow the directions of a random user telling everyone to just rip apart the inside of the item is ludicrous. So I agree with @bkmack, in that this was a lousy experience.
Then again, ridiculous, ludicrous, and lousy is par for the course with meh. As a seasoned user, I feel its their brand. Good job guys! I'll keep buying the crap if you'll keep selling it.
@MrGlass my pillows came packed very well inside little tight rolled up carrying things. However, they were also extremely compressed. I agree there are a lot of comments, which is why I helpfully replied to several people with advice on what to do.
@MrGlass i think you nailed it. We know what we are getting into. They are genius at creating a disturbed segment of society that needs to apply self abuse. It's better than cutting, and self asphyxiation.
@Bkmack @afwaller I think there is only 1 thing missing from my comment, and honestly I do not know how none of us got to this before.
I blame @lotsofgoats
Like everyone else, the pillow started flat as a pancake! I let it alone for a week to rise, but no improvement.
As suggested in this post, I threw it in the dryer for 40 minutes and low heat. It worked! It fluffed up some, so we dried it again and now we have a beautifully full lumpy pillow.
I plan to massage it while watching TV to bring it full circle. I've never invested this much time to bring a pillow to where it should of started! $20 and 4 hours invested. I hope its worth it!
I followed the direction for one of the pillows. I kneaded it, and put it in the drier for 30 minutes on air fluff.
Nope. It's fluffier, but it's not a "pillow". It's a collection of foamy rocks bound in a bamboo cover. I tried sleeping with it, but I didn't like it.
The one is a disaster. I still haven't opened the other one. I have no idea what to do with it. I'd give it away to charity, but I don't have anyone I hate that much.
I think this pillow was made for one customer:
My wife has been very tolerant, if not amused, at my impulse purchases here at Meh. These pillows, tho, are the first time we've both felt conned. Seriously, did anyone at Meh actually see these in person before listing them?
This is the first item of the many hundreds I've purchased from Meh that is going directly in the trash.
I know it's Meh. I know I'm not supposed to be happy or excited about the purchase. No worries. I'm down with that.
But it's Meh. I'm also not supposed to be ticked off and annoyed that I was deliberately tricked into buying otherwise unsaleable garbage.
The usual Meh (blase and neutral) is not the same as this imposter Meh (annoying and hateful).
Meh, you either blew it on this one or you conned me on purpose.
@shahnm There are plenty of people, myself included, who have turned the slabs we received into perfectly serviceable pillows without much trouble at all. You could try harder.
@djslack Granted. And if the description had mentioned that a lot of that sort of effort would be required to make use of the pillows for their intended purpose, I would have happily clicked the Meh button and moved on. It's not that I cannot do the work. It's that I didn't intend to have to spend my time that way.
Thanks for the sanctimonious lecture, though.
@shahnm well to be fair, selling us crap is sorta their business model... not sure conned is the term I would use when we're all willing fools.
Now think of those people who stood there for 30 minutes in the discount club listening to some fool tell them how great the bamboo pillow is and then talked them outta $40 each for them... that is a con job... I mean 40% of the cover material... that's not even 1/2 bamboo of something that is not even 1/2 of the product (not even 1/8th of the product)... the real con is the maker of this product here. ;)
I still think I overpaid by $10...
@shahnm Maybe the reference was too subtle. Cheer up, sucker.
I saw the email today. Took the small sides in each hand and acted like playing an accordion to break up the foam and then let them sit for hours. Then took them and put them in the dryer on no heat for 30 min. They seem to be pretty soft now. We shall see
Ok, I tried the drier thing after manually breaking up the foam and while it helped a little, they were still pretty much lumpy and horrible. Running them through the washing machine however, that did the trick. I ran them on the delicate cycle with cool water and then threw them in the drier again on low heat. It took about 2 hours in there to get them completely dry but it was so worth it. My pillows are now giant, soft, and fluffy. I'd buy these again.
@cjrhoades Glad it worked, thanks for the update!
Worst purchase ever.
I didn't get one of these, though If they had been available when i checked I might have.
ANYWAY. What about putting them in the dryer with a couple of tennis balls in socks? I hear that's what you do to keep your pillow from getting lumpy when drying it after washing it.
@Foxborn You couldn't have bought one, anyway. They were a twofer. See @studerc's masterpiece. And I used the rubber dryer balls on mine, which worked very well- after I manually broke the slab down a little.
After much effort and lots of time in the dryer I got mine to fluff up, now if I can just keep my Koala from eating my bamboo pillow all will be well.
@jmbunkin be glad you don't have a panda!
@djslack darn it, I wish I had said Panda. I feel like such a fool
@jmbunkin I can't resist pandas. I actually sent a panda video to customer support last night.
@jmbunkin Don't feel like a fool. Let's let the pandas and koalas have a cute-off. Right here. Right now.
Seriously: Wash and dry them. Works wonders.
I tried the 'only dry method' and it doesn't do much, even after hand ripping the foam clumps. Instead I removed the covers, did a warm wash, gentle cycle, no detergent (still opted for high spin to get water out), then dried for two hours in low heat with a tennis ball. I have front loaders, and both queen-sized pillows fit fine together.
After that, the innards feel like one big soft piece of foam - no more pieces or clumps.
Edit: spelling
So, how often do you all wash this pillow? I feel like it might absorb more than your average pillow, and may need to washed weekly.
Dear future Mehsters who see this item up for sale again at a higher price:
One month in and these pillows are good enough to stay in our bedroom. They are very lofty but your head tends to mash a pretty resilient divot into them after just one night.
I tried wet+dry fluff with one pillow and just dry with the other. The wet fluff pillow is still ever so slightly damp even weeks later. Both pillows ended up getting homogeneously fluffy, but the wet+dry one is the most even.
They still do have a faint foam smell, but it's not powerful enough to keep me from sleeping on them every night. I would make this purchase again.
So I finally get the pillows usable and put them on our bed. Then my wife tells me that because the case is made from bamboo, and bamboo is a grass, it could exasperate her allergies. I thought these were hypoallergenic? Now I'm confused... Damn you @stardate820926
@readnj oops
@readnj My bet is that they process the hell out of the bamboo and the pillows are pollen free.
After washing, then drying, then drying, then drying again... we dried them a few more times - then they were finally dry.
These things fluffed up crazy big and soft. I didn't have the same issue with lumpiness that several others did. While they're a bit too much for use as my regular pillow, they have one very good use for me.
I get some wicked nerve pain from fibromyalgia - lately it's been manifesting in my calves, making sleep impossible. Propping the leg in pain on one of these pillows relieves that pain and helps alleviate it enough to sleep. I use the other one when I'm on the couch to elevate the leg and it helps then, too.
I want more pillows.
These pillows suck