Well shiiiiittt...Tuesday. Welp here we go again as we find ourselves at the corner of impulsivity and temptation as we near that janky ass pawn shop on the wrong end of town. As we turn the corner and near that alley we all secretly know too well we realize that it is silent. We peer down the dark alley to discover Twofer Tuesday fast asleep on a giant mound of pillows. So quiet, so peaceful, and such a waste of pillows. Like those pillows are fucking ruined with her sleeping on them. Don't touch them...dont even fucking look at them. If you want some...buy them here. She's pry got bed bugs or some shit.
Ha! I already have 8 of these fucking things. I love them, but I sure don't need any more. Pro pillow hoarder tip: if these are like all the others, you'll need to let them sit for a while and then throw them in the dryer on low heat to get them to fluff. (they come rolled and super compressed) Worth the effort.
@eyebrows I have two of those very pillows and love them. Was really hard paying $50 for a pillow but the reviews convinced me. Easily the best pillows I've ever had. One of them started to go a little flat about a week ago and I threw it in the dryer for 10 minutes and it was good as new. Probably going to pick up the two here today as extras.
Well, bought a set. We will see how comfortable these are when they arrive.
wearisome-valuable-carpenter. << Exactly what it says on the tin. Except I'm not a carpenter..., though most of my family thinks I'm not valuable enough to talk to much less acknowledge and I am growing quite wearisome of it.
Are these considered "firm support", "medium" or "luxury" (plushy soft "down alternative")?
I bought an expensive memory foam pillow at Sam's Club a couple of years ago and it's like sleeping with a brick under my head. I guess I don't have enough brains in there to squish down into the pillow. I had an awesome super soft down pillow a few years ago that I LOVED, but after a while all those little eider feathers just sort of balled up into a lumpy mess.
@erthwjim These aren't hard, but not soft like down either. I beat on mine to shape it for my head, then it pretty much stays in shape all night. You don't sink into them like a marshmallow, but you can shape them easily. Hope that helps for next time!
@ImTheDoctor Well I just wish they'd put more in the description about the firmness of these pillows. The ones I bought were off some other site and the firmness was not included, I just assumed all bamboo memory foam shredded pillows were the same. Unfortunately my assumptions left me with a pillow like a brick.
@conandlibrarian If you manage to finagle some queens, I'll take the kings. Sold out of everything by the time I was able to check the site. I have a king size bed so that's actually my preference. Weird huh?
I have seen people trying to sell these at some inflated price at sams many times, I never stick around to see if they are $60... or just wait $50... or what if I told you $40 each... seems since mypillow came around selling overpriced pillows is all the rage.
for $10 each... bought some... probably overpaid by $8 each :)
Meh, I have way too many pillows. If I have another box of pillows sent to the house I may be minus a husband. Oh, but wait! You've thoughtfully timed this sale for right after Valentine's Day and just a week before my birthday, so I can buy whatever I want! Saved the day again. Thanks, Meh! Now I hope these pillows are really comfy since I won't be able to get any more for at least a year.
I had sheets made out of bamboo fabric. They were lovely and soft but I would describe the fabric as having a shorter life span than cotton or a cotton blend. I don't know if that would be a factor with pillows because they would be protected by pillowcases. Also I don't get rid of sheets for decorating reasons, I use them until something interferes with their functionality. The bamboo sheets lasted for years before the bottom sheet tore.
I own two Queen sized already. Yep, I paid $30 each for them a year ago. They are great, but do go flat after a time and need a good fluffing. My neck pain went from 8 to 2 on the 'how bad does it hurt scale'. In for two King sized that I don't need! creamy-annoyed-assassin
Memory foam sucks! To get the best from a pillow search for and buy authentic Sobakawa buckwheat shell pillows. These are okay for some but they do get hot on your head while sleeping (it's the foam that does it). The shells do make a little noise but you get used to it quickly and then sleep right through it.
@RedOak .. Nah, your gourd crushes them like pecan shells but there's millions of 'em so it takes years to grind 'em down. The only draw back is you can't wash the pillow but you can wash the case by taking the shells out then replacing after it dries.. (not a quick task).
Meh. Love my buckwheat pillow. Way more versatile, just as pliable, comfy, and never gets hot. And not filled with fluffy plastic shreds. Just refill with cleaned quality hulls whenever. They grow more. Beans72 for me.
So it's "bamboo" because they used cellulose extracted from bamboo fibers to mix with with a strong base, followed by treatment of that solution with carbon disulfide to give a xanthate derivative. The xanthate is then converted back to a cellulose fiber in a subsequent step, and made into a pillowcase, which is then stuffed with shreds of "viscoelastic" polyurethane foam.
@MasterK999@nadroj ouch. That FTC piece is pretty unambiguous, even if the "bamboo" description above for this product is.
The PCH site carefully walks the does-it-contain-direct-bamboo or fibers-processed-from-bamboo(no actual bamboo properties surviving) line but the Amazon page description does say rayon from bamboo fibers.
Lacking clarity, this smacks of a tin-man product.
Peacefully resting on no-better or worse-covered pillows in the meantime... and will keep the bamboo on the floor and cutting board where it belongs.
hey, at this price maybe not. We paid $40 each for these at Sams and returned them the next day. Like most memory foam they only compress exactly where your weight falls so you're head ends up encased in foam. The pillow almost touched my checks when I laid on my back. This may be good for a mattress but not a pillow.
Bamboo is awesome but for whatever reason has been a marketing disaster.
The North Face made a bunch of bamboo shirts that were silky smooth, wicked like no tomorrow, and never got funky, but the discontinued them after one year.
There's a struggling company called TASC Performance, base in New Orleans, that makes amazing workout gear. Kinda pricey, but after trying them out, i wound up pitching every Hanes, fruit of the loom, Nike, and Under Armor tee I owned. Bought maybe two dozen tees for workout and as under shirts, plus another dozen for peejays. Only thing i ever wear for a base layer now. The stuff just works. And now all of that other dry-fit stuff feels like steel wool. But the company just isn't catching on.
Sweet, A Sellout... that I purchased! :) They shall go next to my other MEh pillows (I stocked up on the 4 packs last time... I Think I maxed out the purchase.) The 4 packs we purchased are great for about 2-3 months, then they flatten... and time to go to the next one... Which isn't bad considering the cost. However a part of me dies every time I have to throw away a pillow due to this. :( (The environment doesn't like the throw away culture.)
I saw these too late, and unfortunately was unable to get any sniff, sniff. They look awesome, and I would love to expand my bamboo clothing collection; I have bamboo socks, and they are the most comfortable things in the world. Edit: I realize pillows are not exactly clothing...
Mine came in a couple of days ago, I immediately opened them up to let them expand (I have a memory foam mattress from the mothership too) and the pillows are staying flat and really hard. Anyone else having this problem? Is there a way to get them to expand and fluff up?
@TBKHomeworld I'm having this problem too. I've tried bouncing them around, fluffing them by hand, tossing them in the dryer on air dry, and singing Billy Ocean to them. No response. Heartless pillows. I'll keep you posted if anything brings them to life.
@0oiiiiio0 Agreed on taking them out of the bag. Cutting is a good idea but I wanted to keep the source bags to re-use for other stuff. My pillows have yet to inflate (I will try the dryer trick everyone is talking about) and if they don't then I guess I can just re-use the bamboo case on my feather pillow. Disappointed in this meh deal. :(
@Beatheistitsfun I ended up throwing them in the washer on 'bulky' item setting and then in the dryer. It fluffed them up and I cannot feel any hard lumps anymore. Glad everyone was able to figure out a way to make them work better. :)
while looking at the one I am getting ready to break up the foam in I am seeing a slight puff to one side... so it appears that it does fluff up slowly if left in a giant mass and outside of the bamboo cover.
@KDemo I'm good, these are spares, and not my first time with shredded foam pillows... but... I will say these are the most compressed I've ever seen any memory foam compressed... like really compressed... like zero air in there... pretty impressive.
They were shipped in a big ol' box with lots of bagged air to keep their extreme lack of air from moving around in the big ol' box... which might be ironic? :)
@thismyusername these things will not inflate on their own. Hand shredding just results in lumpy awful pillows. No directions in the bag, on the pillow, or even on the phclife.com website. This video from the daily deal site makes me think that meh got bamboozled with the imposter pillows.
@thismyusername Like you, I've been unable to find anything on the web regarding unboxing/fluffing. They're cheap, so I'm putting one in the dryer with no heat to see how it compares to the other relatively untouched pillow. Here goes nothing...
@Jebbielax the hole isn't big enough that I can see, really. I decided it wasn't worth quicker fluffing to continue using the dryer. I don't think these are necessarily "counterfit" as the video above suggests. At this point, I think it's just possible to mess these pillows up if you handle them incorrectly. By tearing the foam into "big" chunks, for instance. I now have one pillow that is a big rectangle of foam, and another that I've torn into little shreds. I'm going to leave them alone for a couple of days and compare again when the untouched pillow finishes rising...if it ever does.
@forestoney I've worked on one this evening breaking up the chunks and now I'm just going to let it sit. If it's still too lumpy to sleep on by the weekend I'm just going to take the other to the dumpster rather than try to fight it out of that little bag. I was going to say "take it to Goodwill" but I think it'd be a little cruel to donate a lumpy, junk pillow. Fingers crossed!
@thismyusername Ditto. Magic formula appears to be a couple of rounds of hand fluffing and dryer tumbling. And a reminder to keep the outer cover on when you put them in the dryer. Mine are starting to resemble actual pillows!
ok many days later... I have just left them sitting out in their covers to help get rid of the memory foam smell a bit... they are ok.
I am used to using the serta shredded memory foam pillows as they are my most commonly used shredded foam pillow. I can't find a link to them on amazon (it's the old style case?) this item seems similar to them in a new case. I did not pay anything for them (that price they put on amazon is to make it seem like a deal when they "throw them in for free" on a deal for a mattress I suspect.)... anyway...
Compared to the serta memory foam pillows (which to be fair I am guessing serta has access to a LOT of cheap shredded memory foam ;) ) the bamboozle pillows are a bit under-filled.
The actual cover is pretty nice, I have already seen a run but that might be caused from extra time in a dryer undoing the super compression. Compared to the serta one, they are much thinner cases.. but they are not bad feeling when they are in a pillow case.
The inner foam net (the pillow inside the case) is considerably better on these 'bamboozle' pillows than the serta ones... the serta net ripped within the first week of receiving them... the 'bamboozle' net is going strong after a bunch of handling (once again breaking up the super-compressed chunks) and dryer tumbles outside and inside the case.
Which brings up cleaning... it seems with the upgraded net these pillows can be machine washed on cold (the serta ones clearly warn not to wash the inside net, only the case)... so that is a plus.
So final verdict? Typical under-filled memory foam chunk pillow... total rip off at $40 each. You can currently get much more overfilled washable for around $25 at the zon, and similar ones at savings clubs for 2 for $25.
I think at $20 for 2 I might have overpaid by around $10... I think these are worth $5 each but I am a cheap-skate, so...
My main sleeping pillow is a solid core memory foam with puffy cover (for side sleeping) and I prefer it immensely over any shredded memory foam pillow so to the spare they go.
I had a lot of luck with throwing them in the dryer one at a time on no-heat air fluff, but the real key has been breaking the lumps up manually. It helps a lot to take it out of the zippered case. Feel around for large clusters and then break them up into pieces.
@Moose I've been repeatedly slamming mine in the floor like splitting logs with an axe motion. It seems to be breaking them up pretty good. Then toss them in the dryer. I feel like taking them down to the local gym and having some meat heads rough them up. Feels like I'm doing cardio since I bought four of them.
So for those having issues getting them to puff up. Pull them out of the bag/plastic, throw them in the dryer with NO heat and a few clean tennis balls and let er roll for 30-45 minutes. I just received them today and they are ready to use tonight!
@ccws Follow up after one night on them - even though they were fluffed, and the cases themselves felt 80-90% full my head still found every solid chunk in both pillows so there is still some fluffing to do. Besides the few solid pieces the pillows were quite nice. I threw them in the dryer for an hour again before leaving for work and hoping that they'll be 100% inflated when I get home.
Mine were super flat like everyone else's. While I was sitting on the couch I just started smashing the sides together and rolling the pillows up and down like a wave. Basically breaking up the slab of foam but not ripping any or opening up the case at all. Then i punched the ends together a few times. Think I'll leave them out to expand but they got a pretty decent head start this way.
Last time I bought shredded memory foam pillows they came uncompressed so they were immediately ready to go. I think these might still need to expand for a day. Also, the box these came in was big enough to ship fully fluffed pillows in... The warehouse staff could have done us a favor and cut them out of the duffel bags and let Smartpost fluff them for us :)
Also am dealing with the flat pillows. After a few minutes they seemed a bit puffier than when shipped (maybe 1 inch think at widest to 2 inches?), but that growth has stalled and they seem to like being thin, slightly curled, and rather useless as pillows.
I may try dryer or hand break up, but I bought a bunch of these and I dont want to sit and deal with all of them.
Removing the outer pillowcase makes it easier to work with. I then grabbed both sides of the inner bag and pulled apart, so I had a big volume to mix the shredded pieces around in. After that, I agitated mine manually for a while, not really breaking up clumps but shaking it and moving stuff around. after ~25 minutes of admittedly half hearted work on this, I now have something that resembles a pillow. though it is truly underfilled & clumpy, reminds me of the terrible pillows my grandmother kept in her attic for when all 10 grandkids showed up.
I'm gonna let that one sit now, and see if time will make it plump up more. I think 25 minutes was overkill and I should have put it down after 5.
Same issue as others are reporting. After removing them from the packaging, un-rolling them, and leaving them sit for a few hours to expand, they've... well, not expanded. Still flat and rock hard, and they keep trying to curl back up.
@osodrac While washing them got them all nice and fluffy, they are still not both fully dry from the dryer a day later lol. Going through another cycle right now, then will prob just set them in the sun as it's 83 out today.
Broke up all the shredded pieces after taking the bamboo cover off, put cover back on and threw in dryer (no heat) for 20 minutes. Now after letting them sit for a couple of hours-they almost look normal. Now my wife can't hit me over the head with the flat hard pillows and injure me.
I had tossed mine in the dryer for about 30-40 minutes on low heat (don't have a no heat option), when they came out they were fluffier than when they went in but still had some spots that you could tell the foam was hugging the other foam and not wanting to let go, it had been so close for so long it was hard for it to give up that close bond it had. After manipulating it around to break up these foam marriages they seemed to puff up a lot better, I've been sleeping on one of them for a few days now and love it and it expands again every day and seems huge when I go to lay down on it again to sleep.
I put one (minus sausage casing and plastic) unrolled, in the garage as a control. The other went into the dryer, curled in reverse, with two dryer balls, for 40 minutes on no heat. #1 is still a plank after a few hours. #2 is about 6" thick but with large lumps still, and about half the pillow volume is filled. I beat up on the lumps until they were smaller, and now it's back in the dryer. Will repeat as needed, then both will air out for a few days.
@OldCatLady Pillow #2 is fully fluffed after a total of about 3 hours in the dryer with the dryer balls, as well as some manual breaking up of anything larger than an orange. The case is full. Probably don't have to wait for outgassing to complete, but I'm still going to let it sit for a day or so. Pillow #1 was still a plank, so clearly these aren't like mattress pads which will expand rapidly on their own. #1 is now in the dryer getting pounded.
Did anyone have difficulties getting these things out of their prison tubes? Mine just arrived today and after battling for five minutes to free the first one, I ended up ripping the cloth part of the tube. After that, all bets were off and I just went into Hulk mode, shredding both containers into fine powder.
Now it looks like I'll be putting them in the dryer as the preferred fluffing method.
@Thumperchick I'm not upset about it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Anyway, I'm just gonna leave them alone for a while and see what happens. If the lumps don't magically disappear, I'll use them in the dog's crate. She'll like that.
@Barney Did you manually break the interior rock down? It should have come with directions for deep tissue massage. Mine were slabs, then lumps, then after I spent awhile breaking up interior chunks, they're very satisfactory pillows. Hearing the noises the compressed foam makes as it breaks free is sort of like listening to ice floes.
Looks like we were all screwed! My pillows came like two slabs of bacon. I tried most of the suggestions to no avail and finally called for a return and refund. Thy gave me the phone number of PCH Life at firstname.lastname@example.org / 954-518-9777 I called them and was told To return the pillows to them with a check for $10 and thew would send replacements (((NO REFUND))) and I would also have to pay shipping charges to them....so...for about $25 I could get screwed again. I think i should just put the pillows back into the dryer with my wet snow boots and let them KICK THE HELL OUT OF PILLOWS????!! MEH YOU SCREWED US ALL!!!
Four days into expansion, starting to look like a pillow, just been fluffing and breaking up the hard bamboo foam or whatever it is. and it is starting to pillow. This was an annoying pillow, but you get what you pay for.
Fluff and Massage is all I have been doing. every 12-24 hours give it 10 minutes of your time.
I ordered pillows,they sent me frozen cannoli ! I've got six hours of labor in my $20 "pillows" and they still suck. I passed them through the dryer for 20 minutes and now I have a "pillow" with a big lump on each end and an 10 inch gap in the middle.
@jmbunkin When I first received them, I broke up the pieces a bit, then threw them in the dryer. I ended up with a pillow just like what you have now. I decided to wash and dry them this morning, and they look amazing!! It is taking a long time to dry them, but they fluffed up and feel super soft. I really thought all was lost, but the washer/dryer method works fantastically well.
@Disu Yes, cold water and no detergent. It was on the delicate cycle. Both came over full of water, so I took them to the tub real quick and squeezed out a bunch of water. I then threw them in the dryer on medium heat. I have read most people have used low heat, but low was just not working for me. I will post a pic shortly.
@usbank I live in an apartment and have a tiny washer in my unit. My pillows were full of water, so I took them to the tub and squeezed them a bit. Maybe someone with a full sized washer would not have this issue.
@conandlibrarian Thanks for the tip Conan but I washed one in the past(not one of these) and it got so heavy the washer would not spin and the washing machine kept shutting down. The pillow weighed about 25 lbs out of the washer. Sounds like you had much better luck.
(My Dog just said it all!) Having arthritis the pain became to great to give the pillow further massages so I decided to donate it to my dog for a bed..........He sat on it, pawed it, sniffed it, walked around it a couple of times and then hiked his leg and peed on it. I'm gonna send the still sealed one to my EX Wife as a "Thinking of you" Gift. Thanks MEH
Sweet, I always wanted a couple of sacks of concrete for my bed! I guess the fact that the box weighed almost 20 pounds and was big enough for a body should have been a clue. At least meh thoughtfully put air bags in the box to keep my "pillows" safe in transit.
Just not right. It's one thing to offer a piece of crap for sale and give a misleading description. (Chill, I didn't say lie, I said misleading) but altogether different event to offer a bath mat for sale and call it a pillow.
@afwaller I probably should have read all the comments, but thanks. Your instructions will be followed. It does seem pretty similar to stuff already tried but if it worked for you? How did you know to do that exact list of instructions? Just lucky? Persistent? Incredibility smart? Work at Livermore lab.? You sold the pillows to Meh? Just curious. Still have 3 lives left.
@Bkmack Someone several comments up recommended running them through the washer and dryer - it absolutely worked and fluffed them up for us. However, a few days and several dryer cycles later... they're still not 100% dry. So uh, you can totally get fluffy damp pillows! (If you live somewhere warm, you can probably dry them quickly by putting them out in the sun.)
@Bkmack I got mad because the pillows were terrible little bricks, came to the forum, and, crucially, read all the posts. Then I followed directions and was incredibly surprised by how well the dryer thing worked.
@afwaller There are over 100 comments on this post, many of which came after we received the item. If you expect users to read them all before complaining, you haven't been on the internet very long.
But on top of that, I expect items to come in a usable shape or at the least have instructions. These items were packed so poorly that they came unusable, no reasonable company should be doing that. To expect me to come onto the sales page & read 100 forum posts to figure out how to fix the item is ridiculous. And even when I did that - because I did - to expect me to follow the directions of a random user telling everyone to just rip apart the inside of the item is ludicrous. So I agree with @bkmack, in that this was a lousy experience.
Then again, ridiculous, ludicrous, and lousy is par for the course with meh. As a seasoned user, I feel its their brand. Good job guys! I'll keep buying the crap if you'll keep selling it.
@MrGlass my pillows came packed very well inside little tight rolled up carrying things. However, they were also extremely compressed. I agree there are a lot of comments, which is why I helpfully replied to several people with advice on what to do.
@MrGlass i think you nailed it. We know what we are getting into. They are genius at creating a disturbed segment of society that needs to apply self abuse. It's better than cutting, and self asphyxiation.
My wife has been very tolerant, if not amused, at my impulse purchases here at Meh. These pillows, tho, are the first time we've both felt conned. Seriously, did anyone at Meh actually see these in person before listing them?
@djslack Granted. And if the description had mentioned that a lot of that sort of effort would be required to make use of the pillows for their intended purpose, I would have happily clicked the Meh button and moved on. It's not that I cannot do the work. It's that I didn't intend to have to spend my time that way.
@shahnm well to be fair, selling us crap is sorta their business model... not sure conned is the term I would use when we're all willing fools.
Now think of those people who stood there for 30 minutes in the discount club listening to some fool tell them how great the bamboo pillow is and then talked them outta $40 each for them... that is a con job... I mean 40% of the cover material... that's not even 1/2 bamboo of something that is not even 1/2 of the product (not even 1/8th of the product)... the real con is the maker of this product here. ;)
I saw the email today. Took the small sides in each hand and acted like playing an accordion to break up the foam and then let them sit for hours. Then took them and put them in the dryer on no heat for 30 min. They seem to be pretty soft now. We shall see
Ok, I tried the drier thing after manually breaking up the foam and while it helped a little, they were still pretty much lumpy and horrible. Running them through the washing machine however, that did the trick. I ran them on the delicate cycle with cool water and then threw them in the drier again on low heat. It took about 2 hours in there to get them completely dry but it was so worth it. My pillows are now giant, soft, and fluffy. I'd buy these again.
@Foxborn You couldn't have bought one, anyway. They were a twofer. See @studerc's masterpiece. And I used the rubber dryer balls on mine, which worked very well- after I manually broke the slab down a little.
I tried the 'only dry method' and it doesn't do much, even after hand ripping the foam clumps. Instead I removed the covers, did a warm wash, gentle cycle, no detergent (still opted for high spin to get water out), then dried for two hours in low heat with a tennis ball. I have front loaders, and both queen-sized pillows fit fine together.
After that, the innards feel like one big soft piece of foam - no more pieces or clumps.
Dear future Mehsters who see this item up for sale again at a higher price: One month in and these pillows are good enough to stay in our bedroom. They are very lofty but your head tends to mash a pretty resilient divot into them after just one night.
I tried wet+dry fluff with one pillow and just dry with the other. The wet fluff pillow is still ever so slightly damp even weeks later. Both pillows ended up getting homogeneously fluffy, but the wet+dry one is the most even.
They still do have a faint foam smell, but it's not powerful enough to keep me from sleeping on them every night. I would make this purchase again.
So I finally get the pillows usable and put them on our bed. Then my wife tells me that because the case is made from bamboo, and bamboo is a grass, it could exasperate her allergies. I thought these were hypoallergenic? Now I'm confused... Damn you @stardate820926
After washing, then drying, then drying, then drying again... we dried them a few more times - then they were finally dry. These things fluffed up crazy big and soft. I didn't have the same issue with lumpiness that several others did. While they're a bit too much for use as my regular pillow, they have one very good use for me. I get some wicked nerve pain from fibromyalgia - lately it's been manifesting in my calves, making sleep impossible. Propping the leg in pain on one of these pillows relieves that pain and helps alleviate it enough to sleep. I use the other one when I'm on the couch to elevate the leg and it helps then, too.