@Felton10 You can actually get a healthy discount on Apple stuff from Best Buy. They routinely discount the new stuff a couple hundred bucks. And they have deals on refurbs and open box stuff as well if you’re feeling brave
@Wtcher Are you defending this thing? It’s got the storage of a $20 micro-SD card, the processing power of the (now ancient) Surface Pro 2 I bought from here on Meh for less than half the price, and would have a good 85% chance of breaking badly if dropped three feet.
Oh, and the Surface Pro 2 has double the storage, also.
@Dizavid@Wtcher There’s so much more to a laptop than specs, man. It’s hard to argue that Apple laptops aren’t the highest quality in the industry. Personally, I think macOS and the trackpad alone are worth the money. It all depends on what you place value in - no need to be a jerk just because people see value in different things than you do.
@Dizavid@Wtcher The best score that any surface pro 2 has for geekbench multicore is 6522, the best score that this model of macbook air has is 8143, a 20% increase, the TDP of the Surface Pro’s CPU is 15 watts and the Macbook Pro’s CPU has a TDP of 7 watts, half the power usage. Real world benchmarks put the Surface at around 6 hours of video playback, the MacBook Air does around 10 and a half. The MacBook is also fanless.
As for your $20 SD card, you’re looking at about 80MB/s read speeds as stated by the manufacturer. Real-world benchmarks of the MacBook Air put its read speeds around 2000MB/s. Not all flash is created equal, cheap flash isn’t good and good flash isn’t cheap (though “good enough” is another matter).
That isn’t to say that this is worth buying necessarily, the base-model Pro from last year may be a better deal depending on what you’re doing. The point is that consumer-level specsheets are so bad as to be almost completely useless.
Let me also just throw it out there that I’d you’re spending smart on a $1000 laptop, you’re getting a top of the line portable death robot that can play any video game on the market, render and watch video better than any Mac on the market, have at least a terabyte SSD, etc.
I acknowledge the Mac OS is a great productivity tool. Macs are good to get shit done on. That’s it, though. There’s nothing else. You’re spending like 3x as much just for an OS that might make you like 5% more efficient, tops.
@kurrelgyre I just checked an install of macOS High Sierra, and there’s over 88GB free on this size of SSD. So if you stream your music and videos, this could be plenty of space. If you download everything, probably not.
@shahnm These batteries are more reasonably removable than in some MacBook models, but not so much that you’d want to put them into the fridge every night. Ifixit says – The battery is secured with a combination of screws and repair-friendly stretch-release adhesive—but you’ll have to remove the logic board and speakers for access.
@DarkHuD@sligett From what I have gathered online, if Meh obtained this via legit channels (and no reason why they wouldn’t) then it will have the typical 1 year Apple warranty, and AppleCare+ could likely be purchased as well. If Meh obtained this from less than legit channels, it will still have the 1 year warranty, but that warranty will have started already back when Apple first recorded the serial number as being “sold at retail”.
Okay, I actually am in the market for this product, but seriously, guys, WTF? For +$200 (and probably less, with research and/or patience), I can have total confidence in the warranty, secure delivery via the Mac store, often a discount on some related product, and probably some kind low or no-interest financing. No deal, guys.
And I’m not buying a toothbrush either, because now Quip seems super shady.
@stinks@whogots From what I have gathered online, if Meh obtained this via legit channels (and no reason why they wouldn’t) then it will have the typical 1 year Apple warranty, and AppleCare+ could likely be purchased as well. If Meh obtained this from less than legit channels, it will still have the 1 year warranty, but that warranty will have started already back when Apple first recorded the serial number as being “sold at retail”.
I won’t even consider anything with less than 16GB of RAM. The fact that you can’t upgrade (or even replace) the RAM and the HDD/SSD and are required to pay the Apple Tax on those components is the sole reason I won’t buy a new MacBook Pro and am still running on my Early 2011 model.
@lilsrm123 someone dialed it in… I mean, if I told my wife that I installed a brand new dishwasher, but only painted the front of our old one… I’d be in the dog house… probably sleeping on the couch until morningsave.
@mothmer I took the deal, then a Costco flyer comes in the mail this afternoon with “Mac Now Available on Costco.com”. Damn. So I go to Costco.com and the same Air model MRE82LL/A is $1149.49. So I’m not angry. Costco has the 13.3" airbook with backlit LED display (not Retina) for $899.
was in for $993.99 but now you are taking the spoon out of my childs mouth. Much like the Panama papers have been doing for the super rich. Have you heard of the papers? Its not like I have been raising awareness or anything.
@craigcush and that in my opinion is why Apple products are worth the price! Who’s still using an 11 yo PC? Likely no one because they don’t hold up as well. My MacBook Pro is early 2011 and still works beautifully-never had any issues! I believe if I’d have bought a PC at the time I bought my Mac, that the PC would’ve been long gone by now.
@craigcush Many people are still using 11 year old PCs. Most of the business world just recently started to switch away from windows XP, an 18 year-old operating system. Most ATMs you’ve interacted with have probably been running it. And I know many schools and businesses that are full of old Dell Optiplex machines that have been around forever. On the inside, macs are incredibly similar to PCs. It’s all about how you treat your machine, and it sounds like craigcush has been good to theirs.
Actually thought about this for awhile as a possible replacement to my 2015 13" MBP. Ultimately decided against it. The i5-5257U and Iris 6100 graphics in the MBP perform basically equivalently to or slightly better than the i5-8210Y and HD 617 graphics in the Air. Same retina display, same force touch trackpad, same 8GB of RAM (though 2133MHz in the Air vs 1866 in my MBP). The Air has TouchID and Thunderbolt 3, but the MBP has more connectivity otherwise and I barely use my Thunderbolt 2 ports as it is. Just wrote this up in case anyone else was thinking of a similar switch. That being said the $200 discount is pretty decent so it might be worth it if you really want the thinner, lighter, fanless design.
Don’t forget, the Thunderbolt ports are USB-C and are the only ports, one of which is reserved for the power cord. But then again, you could (would have to) get a hub/adapter for all your legacy USB. But then again, that same hub makes it easier to disconnect all the cables to pack it up. Hmm
It’s actually not the same Retina display - it’s worse. The display in your 2015 13" rMBP is brighter than the display in the new Air. And yes, the processors perform about the same. If you’re using it lightly, the 75 WHr battery will likely last a lot longer than the 50 WHr battery in the new MBA. Lastly, don’t forget the magnetic power cord - easily the best thing they got rid of.
I actually bought a 2015 rMBP last year because I wanted to avoid the new designs. It seems like you lose a lot to shave the 0.5 lbs off for the new MBP or 0.74 lbs off for the new MBA.
@cjrhoades@thechilipepper0 I wouldn’t call one of the ports “reserved” for power. You can easily make it through a longer day than you’d want to work anyway on battery, and if not, there are a lot of options that provide PD pass through + a port. (My USB-C to HDMI adapter comes to mind.)
@nenik For those who live in the clouds, this looks reasonable. My MBP has 8GB of RAM, and it’s no problem for me. And as I mentioned above, you’ll have about 88GB of that SSD for your apps and documents.
The fact this is on Meh proves that Crapple is no longer a viable computer. No longer does Crapple come with the software you need as they have killed or ruined all their programs and you can no longer upgrade any of the hardware. You can get a faster windows laptop for half as much that will last twice as long (anyone say planned obsolescence)
Steve Jobs is dead and so is Crapple!