@Felton10 That’s funny, because I thought this was a heck of a deal. Still waiting on refurbs from Apple, but this is likely every bit as good a deal. Tempting.
@Felton10 You can actually get a healthy discount on Apple stuff from Best Buy. They routinely discount the new stuff a couple hundred bucks. And they have deals on refurbs and open box stuff as well if you’re feeling brave
@Felton10@FightingMongoos However, if you look at Best Buy and at appleinsider.com, you won’t find any other deal this good on this laptop. The competing Amazon deal, at $100 more, is the closest.
Generally speaking, $600 laptops are very fragile and aren’t designed to take much wear and tear.
You see things like hinges screwed directly into [cheap] plastic and layouts designed to minimise the use of screws, replacing them with snap-together plastic parts.
@Wtcher Are you defending this thing? It’s got the storage of a $20 micro-SD card, the processing power of the (now ancient) Surface Pro 2 I bought from here on Meh for less than half the price, and would have a good 85% chance of breaking badly if dropped three feet.
Oh, and the Surface Pro 2 has double the storage, also.
@Dizavid@Wtcher There’s so much more to a laptop than specs, man. It’s hard to argue that Apple laptops aren’t the highest quality in the industry. Personally, I think macOS and the trackpad alone are worth the money. It all depends on what you place value in - no need to be a jerk just because people see value in different things than you do.
Just to add one more thought to that - it’s absolutely reasonable to have a personal preference, but it’s important to remember that different people have different use cases.
@Dizavid@Wtcher The best score that any surface pro 2 has for geekbench multicore is 6522, the best score that this model of macbook air has is 8143, a 20% increase, the TDP of the Surface Pro’s CPU is 15 watts and the Macbook Pro’s CPU has a TDP of 7 watts, half the power usage. Real world benchmarks put the Surface at around 6 hours of video playback, the MacBook Air does around 10 and a half. The MacBook is also fanless.
As for your $20 SD card, you’re looking at about 80MB/s read speeds as stated by the manufacturer. Real-world benchmarks of the MacBook Air put its read speeds around 2000MB/s. Not all flash is created equal, cheap flash isn’t good and good flash isn’t cheap (though “good enough” is another matter).
That isn’t to say that this is worth buying necessarily, the base-model Pro from last year may be a better deal depending on what you’re doing. The point is that consumer-level specsheets are so bad as to be almost completely useless.
Let me also just throw it out there that I’d you’re spending smart on a $1000 laptop, you’re getting a top of the line portable death robot that can play any video game on the market, render and watch video better than any Mac on the market, have at least a terabyte SSD, etc.
I acknowledge the Mac OS is a great productivity tool. Macs are good to get shit done on. That’s it, though. There’s nothing else. You’re spending like 3x as much just for an OS that might make you like 5% more efficient, tops.
@kurrelgyre I just checked an install of macOS High Sierra, and there’s over 88GB free on this size of SSD. So if you stream your music and videos, this could be plenty of space. If you download everything, probably not.
@shahnm These batteries are more reasonably removable than in some MacBook models, but not so much that you’d want to put them into the fridge every night. Ifixit says – The battery is secured with a combination of screws and repair-friendly stretch-release adhesive—but you’ll have to remove the logic board and speakers for access.
@DarkHuD@sligett From what I have gathered online, if Meh obtained this via legit channels (and no reason why they wouldn’t) then it will have the typical 1 year Apple warranty, and AppleCare+ could likely be purchased as well. If Meh obtained this from less than legit channels, it will still have the 1 year warranty, but that warranty will have started already back when Apple first recorded the serial number as being “sold at retail”.
Okay, I actually am in the market for this product, but seriously, guys, WTF? For +$200 (and probably less, with research and/or patience), I can have total confidence in the warranty, secure delivery via the Mac store, often a discount on some related product, and probably some kind low or no-interest financing. No deal, guys.
And I’m not buying a toothbrush either, because now Quip seems super shady.
@stinks@whogots From what I have gathered online, if Meh obtained this via legit channels (and no reason why they wouldn’t) then it will have the typical 1 year Apple warranty, and AppleCare+ could likely be purchased as well. If Meh obtained this from less than legit channels, it will still have the 1 year warranty, but that warranty will have started already back when Apple first recorded the serial number as being “sold at retail”.
@stinks
Did you mean soldered?
Yeah, it sucks, but that is the drawback of having super thin and portable devices. Their mistake is advertising it as expandable.
I won’t even consider anything with less than 16GB of RAM. The fact that you can’t upgrade (or even replace) the RAM and the HDD/SSD and are required to pay the Apple Tax on those components is the sole reason I won’t buy a new MacBook Pro and am still running on my Early 2011 model.
@lilsrm123 someone dialed it in… I mean, if I told my wife that I installed a brand new dishwasher, but only painted the front of our old one… I’d be in the dog house… probably sleeping on the couch until morningsave.
@hammi99 Out of curiosity tried to apply the discount at morningsave and received an invalid message. Guess they thought of that, not that I had any interest in this even if the discount worked.
@mothmer I took the deal, then a Costco flyer comes in the mail this afternoon with “Mac Now Available on Costco.com”. Damn. So I go to Costco.com and the same Air model MRE82LL/A is $1149.49. So I’m not angry. Costco has the 13.3" airbook with backlit LED display (not Retina) for $899.
was in for $993.99 but now you are taking the spoon out of my childs mouth. Much like the Panama papers have been doing for the super rich. Have you heard of the papers? Its not like I have been raising awareness or anything.
@craigcush and that in my opinion is why Apple products are worth the price! Who’s still using an 11 yo PC? Likely no one because they don’t hold up as well. My MacBook Pro is early 2011 and still works beautifully-never had any issues! I believe if I’d have bought a PC at the time I bought my Mac, that the PC would’ve been long gone by now.
@craigcush Many people are still using 11 year old PCs. Most of the business world just recently started to switch away from windows XP, an 18 year-old operating system. Most ATMs you’ve interacted with have probably been running it. And I know many schools and businesses that are full of old Dell Optiplex machines that have been around forever. On the inside, macs are incredibly similar to PCs. It’s all about how you treat your machine, and it sounds like craigcush has been good to theirs.
Actually thought about this for awhile as a possible replacement to my 2015 13" MBP. Ultimately decided against it. The i5-5257U and Iris 6100 graphics in the MBP perform basically equivalently to or slightly better than the i5-8210Y and HD 617 graphics in the Air. Same retina display, same force touch trackpad, same 8GB of RAM (though 2133MHz in the Air vs 1866 in my MBP). The Air has TouchID and Thunderbolt 3, but the MBP has more connectivity otherwise and I barely use my Thunderbolt 2 ports as it is. Just wrote this up in case anyone else was thinking of a similar switch. That being said the $200 discount is pretty decent so it might be worth it if you really want the thinner, lighter, fanless design.
Don’t forget, the Thunderbolt ports are USB-C and are the only ports, one of which is reserved for the power cord. But then again, you could (would have to) get a hub/adapter for all your legacy USB. But then again, that same hub makes it easier to disconnect all the cables to pack it up. Hmm
It’s actually not the same Retina display - it’s worse. The display in your 2015 13" rMBP is brighter than the display in the new Air. And yes, the processors perform about the same. If you’re using it lightly, the 75 WHr battery will likely last a lot longer than the 50 WHr battery in the new MBA. Lastly, don’t forget the magnetic power cord - easily the best thing they got rid of.
I actually bought a 2015 rMBP last year because I wanted to avoid the new designs. It seems like you lose a lot to shave the 0.5 lbs off for the new MBP or 0.74 lbs off for the new MBA.
@cjrhoades@thechilipepper0 I wouldn’t call one of the ports “reserved” for power. You can easily make it through a longer day than you’d want to work anyway on battery, and if not, there are a lot of options that provide PD pass through + a port. (My USB-C to HDMI adapter comes to mind.)
Ugh!?
It’s 2019, selling anything with soldered 8GB RAM and 128GB Flash should be illegal by now. Maybe watches should get exception or something, but a laptop?
@nenik For those who live in the clouds, this looks reasonable. My MBP has 8GB of RAM, and it’s no problem for me. And as I mentioned above, you’ll have about 88GB of that SSD for your apps and documents.
The fact this is on Meh proves that Crapple is no longer a viable computer. No longer does Crapple come with the software you need as they have killed or ruined all their programs and you can no longer upgrade any of the hardware. You can get a faster windows laptop for half as much that will last twice as long (anyone say planned obsolescence)
Steve Jobs is dead and so is Crapple!
I honestly feel stupider simply for having seen this being offered. I hope the (inevitably copious) remaining stock will be donated to employees and/or the homeless.
@tirams For internet browsing and general usage, it’s fine. If you’re doing heavy work (photoshop, large code compilation, running a VM), 8g is not nearly enough these days.
It’s a good deal – especially if you compare it to buying through Amazon or Apple, because you don’t have to factor in taxes. A superb price, assuming AppleCare is still in tact.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
1x Macbook Air
1x 30W USB-C power adapter
1x USB-C charge cable (2 m)
Price Comparison
$1199 List, $1099.99 at Amazon
Warranty
1 Year Apple
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Friday, July 17th
An apple a day…
@Stallion keeps early retirement away
Worst discount ever at meh. A whole $ 100 wow
@Felton10 That’s funny, because I thought this was a heck of a deal. Still waiting on refurbs from Apple, but this is likely every bit as good a deal. Tempting.
@Felton10 You can actually get a healthy discount on Apple stuff from Best Buy. They routinely discount the new stuff a couple hundred bucks. And they have deals on refurbs and open box stuff as well if you’re feeling brave
@Felton10 @FightingMongoos However, if you look at Best Buy and at appleinsider.com, you won’t find any other deal this good on this laptop. The competing Amazon deal, at $100 more, is the closest.
@Felton10 @FightingMongoos @sligett $999 at Microcenter. (in store only.)
$100 off something that’s already marked up by like 2000%?
You guys have finally lost your God damn minds.
Generally speaking, $600 laptops are very fragile and aren’t designed to take much wear and tear.
You see things like hinges screwed directly into [cheap] plastic and layouts designed to minimise the use of screws, replacing them with snap-together plastic parts.
I used to fix laptops.
@Wtcher Are you defending this thing? It’s got the storage of a $20 micro-SD card, the processing power of the (now ancient) Surface Pro 2 I bought from here on Meh for less than half the price, and would have a good 85% chance of breaking badly if dropped three feet.
Oh, and the Surface Pro 2 has double the storage, also.
Apple makes overpriced bullshit.
@Dizavid @Wtcher windows is a fucking piece of shit. Don’t be a hater because you can’t afford one.
@Dizavid @ThatsHeadly @Wtcher
/giphy abandon thread
@Dizavid
The Surface Pros are very nice devices! My office had one special-ordered for someone. I think they’ve been very satisfied with the device.
I’m happy that you have a machine that you feel fits your needs. I would recommend against trusting $20 SD cards for mission critical work however.
Cheers.
@Dizavid @Wtcher There’s so much more to a laptop than specs, man. It’s hard to argue that Apple laptops aren’t the highest quality in the industry. Personally, I think macOS and the trackpad alone are worth the money. It all depends on what you place value in - no need to be a jerk just because people see value in different things than you do.
@TBoneZeOriginal
Just to add one more thought to that - it’s absolutely reasonable to have a personal preference, but it’s important to remember that different people have different use cases.
These arguments are a lot like Coke vs. Pepsi.
@Dizavid @Wtcher The best score that any surface pro 2 has for geekbench multicore is 6522, the best score that this model of macbook air has is 8143, a 20% increase, the TDP of the Surface Pro’s CPU is 15 watts and the Macbook Pro’s CPU has a TDP of 7 watts, half the power usage. Real world benchmarks put the Surface at around 6 hours of video playback, the MacBook Air does around 10 and a half. The MacBook is also fanless.
As for your $20 SD card, you’re looking at about 80MB/s read speeds as stated by the manufacturer. Real-world benchmarks of the MacBook Air put its read speeds around 2000MB/s. Not all flash is created equal, cheap flash isn’t good and good flash isn’t cheap (though “good enough” is another matter).
That isn’t to say that this is worth buying necessarily, the base-model Pro from last year may be a better deal depending on what you’re doing. The point is that consumer-level specsheets are so bad as to be almost completely useless.
@telepheedian In @Dizavid’s defense, he just said “the storage of”, not the speed of.
Let me also just throw it out there that I’d you’re spending smart on a $1000 laptop, you’re getting a top of the line portable death robot that can play any video game on the market, render and watch video better than any Mac on the market, have at least a terabyte SSD, etc.
I acknowledge the Mac OS is a great productivity tool. Macs are good to get shit done on. That’s it, though. There’s nothing else. You’re spending like 3x as much just for an OS that might make you like 5% more efficient, tops.
Apple is crapple.
@Dizavid no wireless, less space than a Nomad, lame.
Meh, only because they shouldn’t even make them with disks this small.
@kurrelgyre I just checked an install of macOS High Sierra, and there’s over 88GB free on this size of SSD. So if you stream your music and videos, this could be plenty of space. If you download everything, probably not.
Not even refurbed?
Cool!
Also great clickface.
OTOH, perhaps there will be one left over that Meh can slip into my next IRK bag.
But can we please talk about the batteries?!?
@shahnm These batteries are more reasonably removable than in some MacBook models, but not so much that you’d want to put them into the fridge every night. Ifixit says – The battery is secured with a combination of screws and repair-friendly stretch-release adhesive—but you’ll have to remove the logic board and speakers for access.
@shahnm sure! You go first.
/giphy you go first Indiana jones
@sligett I call BS. There’s no way any Apple product contains anything with “logic” in the name…
@UncleVinny Oooh, nice quality gif!
@shahnm
Nearly regular price without the warranty or apple care option? Hard pass on an already overpriced meh deal.
@DarkHuD It’s new, so it would have the regular warranty and I’d bet money you can purchase AppleCare for it still.
@DarkHuD Hmm - odd that there’s no mention of the warranty in the listing.
@DarkHuD @sligett From what I have gathered online, if Meh obtained this via legit channels (and no reason why they wouldn’t) then it will have the typical 1 year Apple warranty, and AppleCare+ could likely be purchased as well. If Meh obtained this from less than legit channels, it will still have the 1 year warranty, but that warranty will have started already back when Apple first recorded the serial number as being “sold at retail”.
@Collin1000 @DarkHuD But what if they got it from Quip? What then?
@Collin1000 @DarkHuD @sligett
Touché!
@DarkHuD Oh, I see they say
now.
I’m confused. This is meh right? When did they get high end stuff? Although it DOES have Bluetooth…
@seraphimcaduto also speakers, but no knives or vacuum features that I’m aware of
@guyfromhawthorn @seraphimcaduto
“vacuum features”
Well… Apple does suck…
@seraphimcaduto
This is high-end? But it doesn’t even have DDR4 RAM or a dedicated graphics card.
@seraphimcaduto Are you forgetting the high end teethbrushes already?
Okay, I actually am in the market for this product, but seriously, guys, WTF? For +$200 (and probably less, with research and/or patience), I can have total confidence in the warranty, secure delivery via the Mac store, often a discount on some related product, and probably some kind low or no-interest financing. No deal, guys.
And I’m not buying a toothbrush either, because now Quip seems super shady.
@whogots If it’s new, why wouldn’t Apple honor the typical one year warranty?
@stinks @whogots From what I have gathered online, if Meh obtained this via legit channels (and no reason why they wouldn’t) then it will have the typical 1 year Apple warranty, and AppleCare+ could likely be purchased as well. If Meh obtained this from less than legit channels, it will still have the 1 year warranty, but that warranty will have started already back when Apple first recorded the serial number as being “sold at retail”.
Anyone have a spare $994 laying around to spare? Couch cushions…under the car seat… second pair of jeans pockets perhaps?
Would reeaaallly appreciate it!
@lilsrm123 If only you had mentioned the coffee table.
@lilsrm123 me too. My 5.5 year old one has the screen going out or something anyway. Apple says video card checks out OK.
Hey meh! That’s wrong. The memory is sautered in. You can’t upgrade it. What you buy is what you get.
You can buy them with 16 [elsewhere], but you can’t upgrade them.
@stinks
Did you mean soldered?
Yeah, it sucks, but that is the drawback of having super thin and portable devices. Their mistake is advertising it as expandable.
@stinks soldered
@DVDBZN Yes, soldered. I thought that looked funny. It was, in my defense, after midnight.
/giphy after midnight
@DVDBZN @stinks Soldered, sucks, solder sucker. Got you covered:
@stinks Thanks for the callout – we removed mention of “expandable”
I won’t even consider anything with less than 16GB of RAM. The fact that you can’t upgrade (or even replace) the RAM and the HDD/SSD and are required to pay the Apple Tax on those components is the sole reason I won’t buy a new MacBook Pro and am still running on my Early 2011 model.
@SpenceMan01 agreed.
FASTEST MEH CLICK EVER.
Too many doll hairs.
And cmon meh… You also post this on morningsave
But for the same price! Usually its slightly more discounted here for the one day!
@lilsrm123 someone dialed it in… I mean, if I told my wife that I installed a brand new dishwasher, but only painted the front of our old one… I’d be in the dog house… probably sleeping on the couch until morningsave.
@lilsrm123 even cheaper at morningsave if VMP
@hammi99 Out of curiosity tried to apply the discount at morningsave and received an invalid message. Guess they thought of that, not that I had any interest in this even if the discount worked.
@hammi99 @Raider Ignorant confirmed that the VMP code doesn’t work on these items.
@hammi99 @lilsrm123 VMP discount does not work on this, frustratingly.
Does it work with a Mac?
Most expensive deal since Meh’s inception, right?
First one sold! 20 minutes past!
I hear Costco has some sick deals on Mac products… so… yeah… hard pass.
@mothmer I took the deal, then a Costco flyer comes in the mail this afternoon with “Mac Now Available on Costco.com”. Damn. So I go to Costco.com and the same Air model MRE82LL/A is $1149.49. So I’m not angry. Costco has the 13.3" airbook with backlit LED display (not Retina) for $899.
@dbmittens 10-4. I was not sure of the deal from Costco, but Warranty, new, etc… I’m not saying that it was not a good deal, just not the deal for me
was in for $993.99 but now you are taking the spoon out of my childs mouth. Much like the Panama papers have been doing for the super rich. Have you heard of the papers? Its not like I have been raising awareness or anything.
No floppy drive??
Meh…
I’ve got a 11 year old Mac book pro just as fast, yes heavier but same ram i5 and 500gb. Great service from apple
@craigcush and that in my opinion is why Apple products are worth the price! Who’s still using an 11 yo PC? Likely no one because they don’t hold up as well. My MacBook Pro is early 2011 and still works beautifully-never had any issues! I believe if I’d have bought a PC at the time I bought my Mac, that the PC would’ve been long gone by now.
@craigcush Many people are still using 11 year old PCs. Most of the business world just recently started to switch away from windows XP, an 18 year-old operating system. Most ATMs you’ve interacted with have probably been running it. And I know many schools and businesses that are full of old Dell Optiplex machines that have been around forever. On the inside, macs are incredibly similar to PCs. It’s all about how you treat your machine, and it sounds like craigcush has been good to theirs.
You could literally sell us a thousand meh face pop sockets for this much.
Pass. That’s a lot of Meh face pop sockets I could buy with the same money I’m not spending on this junk.
@deathbyboodlez
Day 115
I would do this if I didn’t just pay rent! And I get a better deal on em at work!
Actually thought about this for awhile as a possible replacement to my 2015 13" MBP. Ultimately decided against it. The i5-5257U and Iris 6100 graphics in the MBP perform basically equivalently to or slightly better than the i5-8210Y and HD 617 graphics in the Air. Same retina display, same force touch trackpad, same 8GB of RAM (though 2133MHz in the Air vs 1866 in my MBP). The Air has TouchID and Thunderbolt 3, but the MBP has more connectivity otherwise and I barely use my Thunderbolt 2 ports as it is. Just wrote this up in case anyone else was thinking of a similar switch. That being said the $200 discount is pretty decent so it might be worth it if you really want the thinner, lighter, fanless design.
@cjrhoades
Don’t forget, the Thunderbolt ports are USB-C and are the only ports, one of which is reserved for the power cord. But then again, you could (would have to) get a hub/adapter for all your legacy USB. But then again, that same hub makes it easier to disconnect all the cables to pack it up. Hmm
@cjrhoades
It’s actually not the same Retina display - it’s worse. The display in your 2015 13" rMBP is brighter than the display in the new Air. And yes, the processors perform about the same. If you’re using it lightly, the 75 WHr battery will likely last a lot longer than the 50 WHr battery in the new MBA. Lastly, don’t forget the magnetic power cord - easily the best thing they got rid of.
I actually bought a 2015 rMBP last year because I wanted to avoid the new designs. It seems like you lose a lot to shave the 0.5 lbs off for the new MBP or 0.74 lbs off for the new MBA.
@cjrhoades @thechilipepper0 I wouldn’t call one of the ports “reserved” for power. You can easily make it through a longer day than you’d want to work anyway on battery, and if not, there are a lot of options that provide PD pass through + a port. (My USB-C to HDMI adapter comes to mind.)
Bath
@lichme very nice try.
$1000 is a lot to spend on toilet paper
Only 6 sold and the days draws to a close…
Does this Mac run on Crack rocks. That’s all I have right now. 994 = 2031 crack rocks. Pass
Way to go with the wootoff killer, Meh.
And there’s not even a fuko at the end.
Ugh!?
It’s 2019, selling anything with soldered 8GB RAM and 128GB Flash should be illegal by now. Maybe watches should get exception or something, but a laptop?
@nenik For those who live in the clouds, this looks reasonable. My MBP has 8GB of RAM, and it’s no problem for me. And as I mentioned above, you’ll have about 88GB of that SSD for your apps and documents.
Why would I want a $1000 paper weight? Safari is a trash browser and apple support is useless.
It definitely says something when a current “late 2018” model Apple device is showing up on a “deal a day” site.
Things are a changing for Apple, or maybe things are a changing for Meh!, and we’ll see some “late 2018” LV bags here for two fer Tuesdays.
@bbf It’s the former, and I’ve been saying it for years–yes, I’m the “You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” person everyone loves to hate.
To be fair, meh is just doing their job and offering cost-effective overstock at a discount.
Even if I hang these on the walls they won’t let light in…
I was actually looking for a pre-retina model because of the increased upgradeability.
The fact this is on Meh proves that Crapple is no longer a viable computer. No longer does Crapple come with the software you need as they have killed or ruined all their programs and you can no longer upgrade any of the hardware. You can get a faster windows laptop for half as much that will last twice as long (anyone say planned obsolescence)
Steve Jobs is dead and so is Crapple!
@SoftAsFur Oh to be that dead:
Mkt cap 736.12B
@sligett Oh very much alive to the shareholders, but dead to the consumer!
MEH lists warranty info on a 10 dollar set of Bluetooth headsets but not on a 1000 dollar Mac?..
I know, you can just say it was a gift…That will work with APPLE with a know it all Genius…
@fastharry it’s up now.
I honestly feel stupider simply for having seen this being offered. I hope the (inevitably copious) remaining stock will be donated to employees and/or the homeless.
Never heard of this…
@Bumplepimp why can’t meh go with name brands instead of brands we’ve never heard of?
@Bumplepimp @OnionSoup
/image genuine panaphonic
So excited… A 9% OFF SALE!
Meh…
@bjvangundy in Meh’s defence, apple rarely has any of their products discounted so any sale is fairly “surprising”.
@bjvangundy I wholeheartedly expect that one day, meh will pull off a CAH Black Friday deal in which they are purposely $5 higher than normal.
Since another daily site has their OMG deal, this would have to be the opposite.
/giphy GMO lead
@bjvangundy @OnionSoup @narfcake
you guys are just tired of all the winning
https://thewirecutter.com/deals/
@snapster Meh is the Patriots of deal-a-day sites.
Dang, wish I had not used my 20% coupon on Morningsave the other day. I could have scored this for $795 and would have been all over it. Oh well…
@davidd13 hmmmm…i had totally forgotten about that coupon.
@davidd13 don’t feel too bad, it doesn’t work for this deal as confirmed somewhere higher up in this thread.
meh
/giphy pc-master-race
Finally, I can dust off my top hat and monocle and act like I can afford considering buying a $1000 computer on Meh.com.
Let the hate flow through you!
Too bad it’s the 128GB model
https://9to5toys.com/2019/01/28/meh-macbook-air-deal/
EW!
Is 8gig memory very limited? I can always get an external drive for more disk space but not sure about memory limits
@tirams For internet browsing and general usage, it’s fine. If you’re doing heavy work (photoshop, large code compilation, running a VM), 8g is not nearly enough these days.
It’s a good deal – especially if you compare it to buying through Amazon or Apple, because you don’t have to factor in taxes. A superb price, assuming AppleCare is still in tact.
The last picture is a perfect example of the average Apple user.