I think there is an unanswered time duration. Nails on a chalkboard send instant chills and anger. If you took a split-second from a baby’s meltdown, it wouldn’t phase anyone. 5 seconds, a minute, 5 minutes? I would be begging for nails on a chalkboard.
@KNmeh7 I’ve never understood/experienced the intense reaction to nails on a chalkboard. Does not affect me in the least - in fact, back in grade school I took evil delight in subjecting classmates to it.
Also, after raising 4 kids, I can completely tune out baby crying.
Nails on a chalkboard just hurts your ears in the moment. And you only hear that in the proximity of a chalk board when you can see it and know it’s coming. I would wager most of us have not seen a chalkboard in at least two decades. And those younger have never banged out erasers. But I’d take that over the cat hacking.
The sound of a cat throwing up can wake you from a dead sleep. And actually exists. Whether it motivates you out of bed in a panic or just makes you roll over resigned to find ‘it’ in the morning probably depends on what you think they are about to puke on. What your flooring is. Or if you’ve just given up.
@PooltoyWolf@unksol I’m sure the university I went to still has a bunch. At the end of one quarter I remember going into my physics lab and someone had made the most beautiful art from chalk dust on the room wide blackboard. It was mountains and ocean and a beautiful lady in a flowing gown stretched across the sky reaching to grasp the moon in her hand. I remember the details in her face, hair, hands and even her toes. It was stunning. I have never regretted so much not having a phone with a camera knowing that in an hour or two that picture would only be a memory.
@PooltoyWolf@tweezak nice. Lol. I do remember some of those giant sliding multi level chalkboards that were built into the front of the major engineering lecture halls at Purdue but he was not writing on them in class. Once we got beyond 101 stuff those went away. Smaller more focused stuff.
Either way… Not nails on a chalkboard. Just straight up.
EXCUSE ME SIR? IF YOU ARE GOING TO DISRUPT OUR CLASS YOU CAN LEAVE.
@PooltoyWolf@RiotDemon@unksol We had a chalk board paint blackboard (except it was more a greenish black color) when I was growing up. Andof course kids still use chalk to draw all over sidewalks and driveways and streets. I lived on a dead end street once and the kids would do things like lie all over the street tracing around themselves convinced the police would think dead bodies had been there.
@chienfou@RiotDemon I can’t remember who it is. I saw those videos several years ago. For reasons unknown they showed up on the list of videos on the right side in youtube when I was listening to music and I bit.
@RiotDemon You are my hero. How anyone listens to this is beyond me. I can listen to and appreciate musical styles that I don’t like. That 2 minute video reinforces my assertion that the human race is doomed.
@zinimusprime my brother listens to almost anything. If I’m road tripping with him, I have to ask after listening to stuff in these genres if he doesn’t mind changing it. He always laughs and says something like, “Oh, you don’t like it?” Noooooo, it’s fucking terrible.
It kills me because he likes rock and metal… Just listen to that when I’m in the car and you can listen to your garbage when alone, lol.
@chienfou@mike808@RiotDemon I’d rather listen to both of those things any day than some ignoramus tell me about his redneck lifestyle with literally no creativity.
On the flip side, I love all type of music and found a version of Snoop’s Gin & Juice that I feel safe sharing. I literally have this on my playlist and, without sarcasm, love it. If you grew up in the 90’s, give it a chance - it’s awesome.
in terms of noises i hear on a regular basis, it’s a tossup between motorcycles/cars that are extremely loud/pop/backfire for the hell of it, and kids left outside to wail or scream bloody murder. very excited for winter and to someday move away from the city.
the neighbor’s kid looks to be somewhere around 3-5 and he must be going through a phase this summer, idk. they spend a LOT of time in their yard and every time he’s out there he’s sobbing. at first i was just like “i feel ya, kid” but then it kept happening to the point i’d look out to see if something had happened and if he was alright, but none of the several adults that live there seem fazed at all. maybe he’s the kevin mccallister of his family now. our houses are quite close together but we’re also three floors up with the windows shut, an extremely loud a/c, fans, and the tv on louder than usual to be heard over aforementioned cooling devices and still you can hear his dramatics clear as day.
@jerk_nugget I know the feeling unfortunately. My neighbors have a son with severe autism. I really feel for them. He’s non-verbal except for liking to scream a lot. Plus he has a habit of banging on his bedroom walls and window. Our bedroom faces his, and though it’s about 50’ apart, it sounds like he’s banging on our window. On the weekend I wear earplugs so I can get some peaceful sleep.
@cinoclav ugh, that’s definitely no fun at all. i hope some day the universe grants you both some peace. my ex is the youngest of six and both his much older brothers are autistic, and both are non verbal. i think they must be in their 50s-60s now. i often wondered if things might have been different for them if they had access to some of the care and techniques we have now. they require round the clock care and his mom could only handle one of them, so the other (who was also physically dangerous to my ex as a baby) lives in a care facility. lots of autistic people do just fine in the world like anybody else (or fine and not like everybody else!) but it just always seemed to me they were two sweet guys trapped with no tools to communicate. wish we could get the resources and access to everyone who needs it.
@InnocuousFarmer I wish I would’ve tried this when my kids were younger. However, I was able to survive babies crying by some of the best advice ever handed to me, which was “no baby ever died from crying”.
To all the prospective parents out there - you’re welcome.
@macromeh@whogots If there is ever a fire, that’s when it will be silent. It is evil deviltry.
I swear it’s possessed. I give it 9 bolt batteries. Its behavior is unrelated to electricity. When it beeps, there is no logic, no meaning, just these intolerable piercing chirps from hell! Its chirps protest food, protest sleep, protest safety, protest sanity!
@InnocuousFarmer@macromeh@whogots I dread having to change the batteries so much that I usually miss the “supposed to” date and wait until the critters start their “low battery” chirp. Then I have to find an old pair of earplugs plus a set of noise-canceling headphones because as soon as the new batteries are in, the detectors go through their “helpful” self-check routine, complete with all of the screeching noises. And since the thing is in my hand - because I just put in new friggin’ batteries - they are close to my ears. Of course, there’s also a button on the smoke detector that will run a self-test. Since it’s a button that has to be pushed, I’ve yet to figure out a way to run the test while being several rooms away - other than getting an unsuspecting relative to do it. But it’s hard to find a new unsuspecting relative a couple of times a year.
There are new models that have non-replaceable batteries good for 10 years now. It also has to do with the radioactive decay of the ionizing sensor, so it is a major no-no on thinking they last forever replacing batteries. Every unit has a manufactured date, so check them.
Do yourself a favor and replace them all if they’re close to or over 10 years old or replace them when the batteries chirp. If you can handle a big bill replacing them all at once (and each 10-year cycle), then that’s probably best.
There are two types - hard-wired, meaning you run electricity to them on a special circuit and they all go off at once, or standalone stick anywhere kind, which are most common.
Note, the consumer fire alarm “brands” are all the same company, Kidde, Sentry, etc. as the industry consolidated. And, no surprise, the mounting brackets are not interchangeable by brand and likely model.
Also, CO (Carbon Monoxide) is heavier than air, so a ceiling-mounted combo fire/CO unit is a waste. There are optical and ionization detectors and both. So check the fine print/labeling carefully to match the kind (wired or not) and detectors you want before buying multi-packs.
@macromeh@mike808@rockblossom@whogots (Half) kidding aside, that’s actually useful information. If I ever move out of this apartment I’ll probably try to follow whatever the golden path is.
I seriously don’t think it’d be that hard to set these things up in a way that wasn’t a ratio of 100:1 wasteful and annoying to maybe helping in a fire (if you’re lucky). How expensive could it be to build in anything less obnoxious than a fire alarm to give you an indication when the batteries need changed.
Or, for the apartment people, not putting a fire alarm basically in the kitchen, goddamn psychos.
Maybe my problem is I’ve never seen the packaging or manuals.
@InnocuousFarmer Heh. I have one in the kitchen on purpose. It forcefully reminds me that letting things smoke is for an outside grill and not an inside stove. The problem I have is that the upwind neighbor burns trash and tree clippings, which sets off the smoke alarms. At least that happens in the daytime. More annoying is that a few days of excessive humidity will set off the CM alarm, always in the middle of the night. Hitting the button to silence it does no good since it will just come back on in a few minutes. The only real remedy is to remove the batteries and stuff the detector into the freezer for the rest of the night. By morning the moisture has frozen and been removed, and the detector is ready to go back in place.
When you own a house you will quickly realize that smoke/CM detectors, however annoying, are necessary. Beyond the obvious fire avoidance, your homeowners/fire insurance will skyrocket if an inspection ever finds them missing or otherwise out of operation.
Ditto on the inspection. Also, almost all of the units in the blue/orange big box stores (check Costco too) come with their matching mounting bracket, so if you’re replacing an old one, replace the bracket too. You do not want to paint them. Inspection no-no.
As for a CO (Carbon Monoxide) monitor, CO is heavier than air, so place a “portable” unit (i.e. don’t install the mounting bracket) near your bed low to the floor like an electrical outlet and away from a vent. You want to detect pooling of the CO before it rises to where you are in your bed. Another good place for a CO monitor is across the room from a gas fireplace, particularly the ventless kind (to detect unburned fuel - if there is no vent, where do you think it goes?). Put it near the floor or desk level. We put ours on the bottom of an end-table where it is out of sight but doing its job.
Nothing wrong with a little smoke in the kitchen. Sometimes some oil gets on the burner. No harm, no foul. I might have that particular alarm connected only when there’s visitors.
Being someone who works with computers, I will never agree that it’s my responsibility to play nice with other people’s bad systems.
People are lazy assholes, who basically never have the appropriate respect for their role as intermediaries stealing agency from other people. Some middle manager in firealarm-ville is personally responsible for waking up millions of people in the middle of the night for no reason, in the most annoying way possible. What a shitshow.
Working in computers, and InfoSec in particular (CISSP here), it pales to the shitshow that is mobile apps, everything-is-a-service, and internet-of-things from people that don’t have a fucking clue about operational and end-of-life design requirements. Or developers that rely on OJT DIY security (lack of skills) to just “wing it”, or at least until after the C round of financing closes. Fucktards, almost all of them.
Don’t sell yourself short. Pretty much every IT activity/job fulfills an InfoSec role.
Just a boring tape jockey in a data center? Well, ensuring backups and restores are performed meets a primary security deliverable - availability - ensuring information is available and minimizes risk from interruption of business activity.
That said, study/preparation is essential. It also helps to have a study group with other candidates and led by a CISSP or good study course materials. And I strongly recommend lots and lots and lots of practice questions. I highly recommend Clement Dupuis’ CCCure study materials. https://www.cccure.education/
Dentist’s drill, followed by nails on a chalkboard.
If I’m using a Dremel at high speed, it sounds like a dentist’s drill but doesn’t phase me. I think I over imagine what’s going on in the dentist’s office.
@mehcuda67 dentist drill only bothers me when I’m sitting in the chair. I had to go recently to have them put a crown back on. First it was a deburring type bit on what was left of my real tooth… No lidocaine. Then the high speed drill to make sure my bite was proper.
Last time I got a crown, the dentist dropped the drill. Not the most painful thing to have happened to me in a dentist’s chair, by a long shot. But I still have a dent in my gum 10 years later, so I assume it would have sucked pretty badly without novocaine.
If the parent(s) at least make an effort to address the situation, a baby crying doesn’t really bother me. My empathy for their situation trumps my irritation with the noise. If they are just sitting there and ignoring it, I positively seethe.
Some do it because they have used to it and it doesn’t really bother them any more. Some make a conscience choice to ignore baby meltdowns because they don’t want to positively re-enforce them. That’s all well and good when you are at home, but you can’t subject others to this racket on a plane or in a restaurant.
@DrWorm Tiny babies crying don’t bother me at all. Well, maybe on a plane, since it never stops. But generally, it happens because it’s their only mode of communication and everything is weird and terrifying. Nobody’s fault.
The sound of the garbage trucks pounding through the neighborhood at 5AM every Tuesday morning, followed by the driver taking a 20 minute break at 5:10AM on the street which runs along the side of my house. Same time, same spot every Tuesday. Radio blaring, big diesel engine running, occasional pressure balancing of air brakes and air bags…
@RiotDemon Yup. This has been going on every Tuesday for years. I started with the public works dept that manages solid waste collection, then the general city CS, then contacted a couple councilpersons. Most interactions were courteous, but netted the same party line: ‘we can’t reorganize collection routes and schedules to accommodate the whim of every resident’. The public works supervisor told me driver breaks are mandated into the route schedule, and suggested I sleep with ear plugs.
It’s frustrating because it’s about a 30 minute interruption so I’m unlikely to get back to sleep. I usually get up at 6AM anyway, so there’s little point to trying.
@RiotDemon Or even switch it up once in a while. Park around the corner or on the next block or something? Or at least turn down the frekin’ radio and shut off the engine. The street that runs long side my house allows them to park there without blocking anybody’s driveway, so it’s convenient I guess. For them anyway.
@RiotDemon@ruouttaurmind maybe a different approach. What are your cities noise ordinance rules? Locally that loud truck and blaring radio would be an offense prior to 7 am.
I had to investigate this a few weeks ago for my parents. Street crews were starting at 6 am to jackhammer concrete outside their house. They called the company and was given the run around. I did a bit of investigating found out the law. When mom called back armed with specific details the conversation went in a different direction. The next morning construction started at 7 am.
Things scrubbing or rubbing back and forth on a carpet… sends shivers down my spine. I hate the feeling when I have to scrub a spill, and I hate the sound (someone else scrubbing, or just rubbing their feet back and forth, etc.).