… come to think of it, I haven’t actually read more than the first issue or two, so no promises it’s, uh, good. My hazy memory is that it’s some kind of thriller… in a sort of post-disaster setting.
Anyways, the point is, gravity lends things a kind of order and reliability. I wouldn’t take it for granted. Might just turn off some day in a fit of scientific implausibility.
@Fuzzalini@hchavers@InnocuousFarmer On one of the cancer lists I am on people discuss snake oil on occasion, sometimes more often than that. I (generally fruitlessly) argue with them about this thing called science and it would probably be useful to use science based stuff as the treatments (and not, for example, apricot seed interior stuff which turns into arsenic. Yeah that will kill cancer cells, and brain cells, and heart cells, etc.) anyway I tell them science, just like gravity, works all the time - not just when we want it to. .
Stuck to a magnet on the side of the fridge. This is basically my version of “on a hook by the door” because I walk by the fridge on the way to the garage.
The purpose of a key is to restrict entry to persons or beings not wanted. If I tell people where I keep the keys, wouldn’t that be defeating the purpose?
@AuntMean67 Keys I think are more of a removal of plausible deniability. Moves actions in the category of opportunism into more of an actively-criminal-activity category. Keeps the mildly dishonest people honest. Or, for the inept criminal, it makes it harder to be sneaky, which makes things riskier.
Most locks are crap, is what I’m saying. I have picked a few, and I’m unpracticed and bad at it, and it still wasn’t that hard.
It seems like an interesting question whether revealing key location information would have a substantial effect on security. I could imagine it going either way, especially if we’re talking about acquaintances who would be afraid to be caught snooping but not afraid to take a quick photo of keys for reproduction for easier opportunistic theft. All that effort and this person can’t even pick a lock…
That would change, I imagine, if we’re talking about locked things in the house, like in a safe, and then difficult to pick keyed locks, and if those are keys you leave behind when you go out. But house keys at rest in your house, when you are also in your house… dunno.
@AuntMean67@InnocuousFarmer long read… But yes most door locks are ridiculously easy to newer keys with rfid you might be able to query from outside the front door.
Locks and security measures are minor deterents. Usually to make them go steal someone else’s crap
@AuntMean67@InnocuousFarmer@unksol I like good locks because if my house is going to be burgled, I want it done by a professional, not some rank amateur. I have standards!
@InnocuousFarmer@narfcake lol every time he picks one I’m like should I get better locks. Well statistically 0 out of all locks I ever owned anyone has attacked… So…
Everyone does this. The alternative is ever chasing your keys around, whistling for them like they’re an itinerant dog and hoping they didn’t find a skunk or mud puddle.
It took me years to become wise enough to always and consistently put them in the same place (a certain shelf on my credenza hutch). Now I never go anywhere.
@ThunderChicken Yeah I do that too with my keys. Same place and do 99% of the time I know where they are. Also with my glasses and my phone. I have the same place I put them over and over too. Amazing how I can lose stuff in 2 rooms though. Who would have thunk? LOL
I have a key box I mounted inside my entry closet door. I use around 40 of the 60 hooks available. All the keys have a number of which only I have the corresponding list. It will take a dishonest person a very long time to figure out which keys are for which locks. I know because I had to run around the house figuring it out.
Currently they are hanging from a clip on my backpack since I am at work.
Tonight when I get home they will be hanging from the key hook immediately inside the front door.
BTW… they have a trackr on them… which primarily gets used to find the phone, since I can ALWAYS find my keys.
Sitting on the cabinet in the hallway between the door and the kitchen. Why, do you need to borrow my car?
@cinoclav, no, I need to steal it.
@kittykat9180 I love my car but I’m probably due for a new one soon. I’ll just turn my back for a minute.
They are conveniently attached to an Airtag.
Different keys are in different places. Those places are where I put the keys.
Fishbowl should have been an answer. It’s always fun learning a little bit more about mehizens.
@njfan Don’t the fish get annoyed?
@awk @njfan Nah, now they’ve got keys to the barracuda.
Dresser
On the piano…
@phendrick fancy!
@phendrick Interesting choice for a key fob, but while it certainly would be hard to lose, it seems a bit unwieldy.
@macromeh @phendrick
At least they aren’t on his organ…
@macromeh https://www.amazon.com/Carry-Folding-Piano-Rechargeable-Electronic/dp/B08M1L9KNJ/ref=sr_1_5
@chienfou Aw, you’ve been looking through my window.
Being held down by oppressive gravity.
@hchavers I never thought of gravity as oppressive, but you’re absolutely right.
@Fuzzalini @hchavers Have I got a comic book for you!
https://www.comixology.com/Skyward-1/digital-comic/636019
… come to think of it, I haven’t actually read more than the first issue or two, so no promises it’s, uh, good. My hazy memory is that it’s some kind of thriller… in a sort of post-disaster setting.
Anyways, the point is, gravity lends things a kind of order and reliability. I wouldn’t take it for granted. Might just turn off some day in a fit of scientific implausibility.
@Fuzzalini @hchavers @InnocuousFarmer On one of the cancer lists I am on people discuss snake oil on occasion, sometimes more often than that. I (generally fruitlessly) argue with them about this thing called science and it would probably be useful to use science based stuff as the treatments (and not, for example, apricot seed interior stuff which turns into arsenic. Yeah that will kill cancer cells, and brain cells, and heart cells, etc.) anyway I tell them science, just like gravity, works all the time - not just when we want it to.
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I never leave my pocket stuff anywhere but my pockets or the tray on my nightstand meant for holding it.
Leave them in the vehicle, every time someone steals it, they bring it back, with a note saying how sorry they are for me…
Stuck to a magnet on the side of the fridge. This is basically my version of “on a hook by the door” because I walk by the fridge on the way to the garage.
@awk I make it a rule to not eat in the car.
In the car, of course — otherwise I’d lose them.
I can’t believe this isn’t an option.
Hanging on the thinger over by the thingy, right next to that one thing.
Sitting on the console in the vehicle. That way, I seldom forget to bring them.
On a key shaped key hanger just outside the kitchen.
The purpose of a key is to restrict entry to persons or beings not wanted. If I tell people where I keep the keys, wouldn’t that be defeating the purpose?
@AuntMean67 Keys I think are more of a removal of plausible deniability. Moves actions in the category of opportunism into more of an actively-criminal-activity category. Keeps the mildly dishonest people honest. Or, for the inept criminal, it makes it harder to be sneaky, which makes things riskier.
Most locks are crap, is what I’m saying. I have picked a few, and I’m unpracticed and bad at it, and it still wasn’t that hard.
It seems like an interesting question whether revealing key location information would have a substantial effect on security. I could imagine it going either way, especially if we’re talking about acquaintances who would be afraid to be caught snooping but not afraid to take a quick photo of keys for reproduction for easier opportunistic theft. All that effort and this person can’t even pick a lock…
That would change, I imagine, if we’re talking about locked things in the house, like in a safe, and then difficult to pick keyed locks, and if those are keys you leave behind when you go out. But house keys at rest in your house, when you are also in your house… dunno.
@AuntMean67 @InnocuousFarmer long read… But yes most door locks are ridiculously easy to newer keys with rfid you might be able to query from outside the front door.
Locks and security measures are minor deterents. Usually to make them go steal someone else’s crap
@AuntMean67 @InnocuousFarmer @unksol I like good locks because if my house is going to be burgled, I want it done by a professional, not some rank amateur. I have standards!
@InnocuousFarmer Confirmed. I’ve watched way too much of the LockPickingLawyer.
@InnocuousFarmer @narfcake lol every time he picks one I’m like should I get better locks. Well statistically 0 out of all locks I ever owned anyone has attacked… So…
Then he makes it look so easy anyway
Pocket or key drawer. Always one or the other.
Everyone does this. The alternative is ever chasing your keys around, whistling for them like they’re an itinerant dog and hoping they didn’t find a skunk or mud puddle.
Right now? In the key bowl.
I can see them from here. Keep you paws off
I hope in the jacket pocket from yesterday but we just went camping and they could have gone rogue.
Either they are where I can find them, or they aren’t.
They’re very unwilling to modify this recalcitrant behavior, to date.
They’ve got some here, over 30,000: https://www.travelsandcuriosities.com/the-baldpate-inn-key-collection
Actually this lodge has been sold and is reopening as The Seven Keys Lodge, but the key collection is still there.
I should probably add trackers to mine.
It took me years to become wise enough to always and consistently put them in the same place (a certain shelf on my credenza hutch). Now I never go anywhere.
@ThunderChicken Yeah I do that too with my keys. Same place and do 99% of the time I know where they are. Also with my glasses and my phone. I have the same place I put them over and over too. Amazing how I can lose stuff in 2 rooms though. Who would have thunk? LOL
/google Milo the cat burglar
Milo The Cat Burglar Steals 20 Sets Of Keys With Magnetic Collar …
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/milo-the-cat-burglar_n_2271664
/image Milo the cat burglar
I have a key box I mounted inside my entry closet door. I use around 40 of the 60 hooks available. All the keys have a number of which only I have the corresponding list. It will take a dishonest person a very long time to figure out which keys are for which locks. I know because I had to run around the house figuring it out.
@goldnectar OMG you have 40 different locks in your house? I’d never keep up.
Currently they are hanging from a clip on my backpack since I am at work.
Tonight when I get home they will be hanging from the key hook immediately inside the front door.
BTW… they have a trackr on them… which primarily gets used to find the phone, since I can ALWAYS find my keys.
@chienfou Nice job of inverting the paradigm.
In my car otherwise I’d misplace them. The spare key fob is in my jewelry box.