@Limewater My wife (who has read 5 or 6 of the novels and watched all the previous seasons of the series on Amazon with me) says that they are faithful in spirit but many details are different. For example, the time period is different: in the novels Bosch is a Vietnam vet; the TV series is set in current times and he served in Afghanistan. But she recognizes many of the characters and major plot points from the books.
@elimanningface@kdemo Are you kidding? Tiger King has everything! Tigers! Lions! Ligers! Polygamy! Genital Piercing! Libertarianism! Country Music! Guns! Shaq! Inspirational Music Videos! A guy who looks like Mitch McConnell!
If it were a nightclub, Stefan would be there.
@mbimeh I wouldn’t (and don’t) feel guilty about any of those!
Only started watching Rick & Morty about a month ago, I think I’m caught up now and excited for the new season, next month.
Wubba lubba dub dub, bitches!
@DVDBZN@InnocuousFarmer@katsuronishi It’s NOT! That’s what’s so amazing about it! I never thought I’d be saying anything along the lines of “My favorite one is the time-travel one.”
The books are all good. The movies peak early and and then the last few kind of suck, in my opinion.
@DVDBZN@f00l@katsuronishi@Limewater Time travel has this problem: there is no causality outside time. As a result, with I’m sure a few exceptions, time travel plots always have this “big time”, or whatever you’d want to call it – linear causality – that the multiple timelines sit inside. And then the writers don’t bother treating that in a consistent way within the bounds of a single story. And even when they’re consistent, it’s narratively meaningless. Offends the hell out of me. You might as well just have a narrator pause every so often to say “… I was only kidding! Never mind!”
A counterexample: I liked The Peripheral, William Gibson’s second-to-latest book. Has sort-of time travel, but all the timelines are alternate / parallel histories, after points of divergence. It avoids the whole mess.
Time travel has this problem: there is no causality outside time
It’s not like there is a clear model or understanding of causality within linear time. There isn’t. There is simply casual experience. That’s true even within science; because we don’t know how to model or then test for any alternative to causality that we can make strong human-level sense of.
And a rigorous mathematical model of any particular proffered form of causality might be just that and little more; just a mathematical model.
Even within the heights of experimental physics and particle study, this is true.
We simply have v crude and human-perspective based models of what causality is. And, even with all our engineering successes and experimental results, that’s all we’ve got.
And: is time linear?
In our daily casual experience, it appears so. In our daily scientific experience it appears so.
This ain’t enough to make it so in any final way.
All we know is that “the universe appears to be that way, more or less, consistently”. To us. A highly limited species.
We currently have no serious means to test beyond those appearances and assumptions.
And perhaps we are biologically modeled to experience it in that way.
But, no offense to Einstein. Hawking, and other serious mathematical modelers of time, we simply have no idea.
Stories are stories. They’re only supposed to be scientifically valid if they occur strictly within the boundaries of the scientific disciplines.
Within a story, if a plot hole or invalidity alienates the audiences; if it kills “suspension of disbelief”: then it’s a storytelling problem.
Stories incapsulate portions of our shared experiences and our shared capacities for imagination into a specific emotionally and intellectually interesting narratives. Perhaps fictional or speculative. . Perhaps partially historical. Perhaps explanatory, or even seriously and rigorously explanatory. Depends on setting and context.
Any story has “real world plot or reality holes” if you look with a microscope. That’s not the point.
If those plot holes etc go “too far”, or the story isn’t evocative, it fails. It never catches on with the larger intended audience, or the audience rejects it.
Each of us has our own personal hangups here about fictional story elements that bug us.
I forget what mine are at the moment; I seem to have recently managed to avoid fictional etc books that tick me off.
But, why do “stories” work? At all?
Because stories are built into us. They are, in a sense, mentally, what we are to ourselves.
The short explanations given to toddlers by their parents are actually v short “stories” of how the world works.
We tell ourselves snd each other stories all day long, making sense of our experiences to ourself; explaining our experiences and selves to others. We explain to ourselves until we have a model that satisfies us at a given time. This is storytelling.
When we gather for special events as families, we tell each other informal “stories” of our lives.
Stories are fiction. And history. And news. And social glue. And, even, in a sense, science and mathematics.
And those things are, in their own ways, stories.
It’s cool to hate time travel tropes. Just don’t expect everyone to agree.***.
@DVDBZN@f00l@katsuronishi@Limewater That’s my point! We only have human sense-making, and time travel tropes violate that aggressively, and worse, often inconsistently!
It’s ok. I’m used to everyone else being wrong.
@ahacksaw Literally same, hahaha. I was so thrilled when I discovered the Boston Park Plaza Hotel had HLN on the room TVs, so I didn’t have to miss the premiere of Forensic Files II while I was away from home!
Not a binger, don’t have the attention span for TV type stuff to binge. Haven’t done so since well before there were streaming services. 2 episodes in a row is the best I’ve done.
On DVD, the only thing I remember doing was Sex in the City.
Back when broadcast TV called them marathons, I remember Twilight Zone and Star Trek
Bosch-The new season begins tonight, as someone above mentioned. I have not seen any of the shows in Meh’s list, but have watched some of the others noted in the comments. We kind of binged watched the original Arrested Development when our son brought the discs, before, I believe, there was online streaming.
When I am beyond stressed, I absolutely LOVE reality TV. Lately, I’ve been watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, but my all-time favorites are Rock of Love, Joe Schmoe, Mad Mad House, and pretty much any show that involves weddings or marrying a rich person. I’m not happy to admit this, but it’s how I’m coping with life at the moment.
@Goofmont enterprise is corny and terrible but i still find it slightly more watchable than the original. but mostly because i watch it nightly to fall asleep and the original series has too many random/pointless and loud background sound effects or soundtrack crescendos. TNG is my favorite, but currently watching voyager.
The original show can be dumb, or heavy-handed, or obvious, or over the top (hi, Shatner!),
… or brilliant.
And the so-called “special effects” … ouch.
But it reflects its time. It carries a record of the crazy, overdone, naive arguments and issues from that era.
And nothing like it had been made for TV before. And because “set in space”, it could directly target topics most shows wouldn’t touch.
When I watch it, it seems in part a kind of historical reference of portions of 60’s culture.
@Goofmont I love Star Trek, grew up with TOS. The Wrath of Khan is a great movie (not just a good “Trek” movie).
But the “it was only a dream” episode of DS9 where they “killed off” most of the crew ticked me off so bad I walked away and never went back. I tried Voyager, but it was meh. I’ve tried Enterprise a couple of times and wandered off.
Discovery is great. Pike has my vote as the best Starfleet captain ever. And Captain Lorca is the worst ever, but then again, he was supposed to be. And I’m a sucker for Mirror Universe epsiodes.
@jerk_nugget I couldn’t take Enterprise at all but then again, Next Gen took a minute to grow on me so there’s hope I suppose.
Voyager was awful the first 3 seasons but it did build the story.
I’m really digging The Orville but now that’s it’s gone to streaming I’m not so sure I’ll continue to follow. A little disappointed it didn’t stay on tv but that’s the way of things these days I suppose.
@f00l@jerk_nugget I never made it through TOS, but I did like TNG, DS9, and Voyager (probably my favorite), and Enterprise too. IMO, they all tend to pick up steam as they go, if they start a little rough.
Haven’t finished Enterprise, still waiting for the writers to give up on this Captain-Vulcan… thing. Points for the cheesecake decontamination room, I guess? I’m in season 2 someplace, I think… even the pop song is starting to not sound horrible.
Discovery didn’t do much for me. Haven’t watched Picard yet.
@Meh_is_Meh your premise is flawed. many of us aren’t going out because we don’t have the luxury to go outside and be away from others, not because we think merely stepping outside will turn us to dust. there is no land, there is no front or back yard, and we want to protect those that have to go out if we can in a very densely populated area.
where i live, most people still have to go to work outside the home and as a result the city is now a hotspot and hundreds of people have died. it’s not the same as “i better not go outside because i might get hit by a bus.”
I have watched between 1 and 3 episodes of a thing at a time on Netflix, but that’s about all I can take. Dramas are kind of… demanding high-attention things on the one hand, and oppressive on the other hand. Other things tend to satisfy you with whatever it is they offer after an episode or two.
I mistook Gossip Girls for Gilmore Girls, above. Never binged Gilmore Girls, but it would be a guilty pleasure if I did. I mean, I think. I remember they talked a lot, and it was network television enough to not be too heavy.
i don’t have guilty pleasures - i’m really not ashamed of anything i watch, eat, wear, etc.
something i binge most often though would probably be dateline or 20/20. since switching to youtubeTV we’ve regained access to both ID and OWN so there’s always a story about someone who lit up a room getting murdered to be had.
i also could leave the tastemade channel on for hours. good background noise including commercials, lots of cooking.
i am also about to binge the newest season of ozark, and i need to catch up on the walking dead as well.
I so want to like “The Office”, as I think I would like the humor, but I loathe the shaky cam and needless, random zooming. I have tried watching it a few times, but after a couple of minutes, I just can’t hang
I think “Parks & Recreation” does this also?
Does the original UK version of “The Office” employ shaky cam?
Babylon 5, Firefly, The Expanse, The Wild Wild West, Sherlock (both the Butterscotch Cabbage Patch and Jeremy Brett versions), The Twilight Zone, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, UFO, anything with Supermarionation.
@blaineg The originals (there are NOT any remakes!) of Hawaii 5-0 and Magnum PI. Columbo, and any of the other NBC Mystery Movie series like Banacek. Mannix, Longstreet, Baretta, Perry Mason, Ironside.
TV hasn’t been on this year so I don’t know what stations do marathons anymore. The ones I will sit down and watch are How It’s Made, Burn Notice, The Twilight Zone (original) and Robot Chicken.
Anything else I just watch 2 to 4 episodes at a time if they play that many in a row.
@sammydog01 True Blood does not really get less pornographic.
Completely different from True Blood, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt on Netflix is really good. It’s a lot less likely to be awkward to watch with your daughter.