@jc283 I contacted the company. Living in Vermont they tend to get get weird about people using the states name. Well they don't really have anything to do with vermont. They haven't since 1961. Also quality wise. About 1 in 6 pieces were broken before the packaging was opened.
@baqui63 Slight difference between "cannot stay up" and "have 8am jobs with 1 hour commutes". Not to imply I sympathize with any "whiners", just saying I understand where they come from. I myself have missed out on more deals than I could count on a shop-class teacher's hand.
@Sane you are completely correct. I misspoke. I apologize to all. I should have said: not part of the bunch of frakking whiners who think that others should make up for their choices, regardless of the motivation behind said choices.
@brhfl I've injured myself with less. I'm a walking disaster, and the many cuts and scars I have all over are a testament to it. If I'd stop cutting/burning/bruising/injuring myself I'd be thrilled to bits.
@YahSah15 Also known as Allen heads, after Allen T. Fuckphilips, genius inventor of yet one more screw. In all seriousness, hex/allen screws are advantageous in applications where you need torque, as they won't cam out like philips, or slip and get stabby like flat.
@YahSah15 They place bewitching magic spells on people. Or they help you when you are using a system of numerical notation that has 16 rather than 10 as its base. They might also assist in designating a crystal system in which three coplanar axes of equal length are separated by 60° and a fourth axis of a different length is at right angles to these. They only come in sets of six. I starred my own reply.
That banana saw just oozes uselessness and/or potential for injury. The screw driver and hex keys are a decent value if you're a VMP. But since I'm suburban man with a 25-year accumulation of tools, meh.
@cengland0 The 25% off aren't as common anymore, but I do have bunch of tape measures! And 6-piece screwdriver sets! As for "at least 25% better", that's being generous, @RedOak. I'd put them on par with each other; VA isn't the same VA as in the olden days. :(
@narfcake The 25% coupons appear during holidays. The 20% ones come in the mail all the time and I have a huge stack of those. I also have a box full of flashlights, screwdrivers, tape measures, and tarps. Some of the other free items aren't even worth free such as the scissors.
@cengland0 Yeah, their scissors suck big time. The 9-led lights are meh, but the occasional 27-led magnetic ones kickass. The magnetic trays are super handy too; I bought those before they were ever offered with coupon.
@narfcake I love those 27-led lights. I get them every single time I can and have an ammo case full of them. I remove the batteries so they don't leak when stored. I don't know why I have so many because those are the ones I don't give away as gifts. I give away the 9 led ones instead. What am I going to do with all those lights? You know you have a problem when you collect so much of the same crap that you cannot possibly ever use them all.
Oh.Oh. East Coast here and I almost forgot! Not tonight though Meh, I'm giving this a personal Meh, but a global Yeah. And what is it with everyone pushing hex sets the last few months? I blame this on a saturated IKEA market.
@DM396 Yeah, it's a small group starting up that has had explosive growth. You get what you pay for: You can either have it cheap, fast, or good, pick 2. (And sometimes you'll only get one, them's the breaks.)
I am almost certain I bought this screwdriver set from Home Depot rebadged to their HDX brand for $5 or $6. I mainly wanted the flexible extension to get some screws into an awkward position on the back side of some equipment racks and it worked great for that. The bits are fairly small and the quality is about what you'd expect for the price. Nothing to build a house with, but good for smaller things needing assembly or electronics.
@wishod Would that be a #0 phillips? Or a #00? What if the screws aren't phillips but are allen or torx? Do I run out and buy "one solid" one of those too so I can remove the cover to this one doodad? And is it a T5, T8, or a combination of both? Not everyone needs tools that are designed to last a lifetime; they just need the tool for very occasional use. And these fulfill that role.
To further expand on this, it's a reason to Harbor Freight's success. Yes, they're cheap; sometimes, very cheap. But if someone only needs the tool for occasional use, such cheap tools are perfect. And heck, sometimes cheap tools still work great in production use. At the shop where my dad used to work, the welding department runs several sub-$10 HF angle grinders, already mounted with different cutting and grinding discs. In use, it's faster to just grab the next grinder than to switch discs mid work, and by not running all the time, they've collectively outlasted the $80 name brand angle grinder.
@wishod Because a screwdriver failing while I'm trying to fix something that's already broken is a bigger risk than saying "fuck it, I won't even try!", so I'm just going to spend more money replacing this instead of seeing if it's just something minor like a loose wire? A piece of plastic fell in between the vent hole on the oven door, which was secured with Robertson screws, so I should say "no, since these screwdriver bits are crap, I'm just going to ignore it and spend $1k for a new oven."? I don't understand your logic.
BTW, the 13-piece driver and bit set that came from a 98-cents store (yep, not even 99-cents store quality!) worked just fine in removing the door panel. I also know of no other appliance here that uses a S1 drive.
@willoneal No. Just the basic vanilla screw/unscrew stuff. I've also used mine to disassemble smaller electronic items.. The ones with the impossibly small screws.. My "Mac" reference was a throw-back to the good old days of woot.com...
@petrosclark for everyday, small household duty, these will probably stand up just fine. However, they just don't have the durability of better crafted tools for daily work, especially the hex keys where some extra elbow grease or torque would be needed. Cheaper plastic handle construction. By the same token, I have a set of the drivers (similar, anyway - purchased at Home Depot for $4), and they're perfect for getting into tight spots - especially PC's or other electronic equipment. If you're looking for the driver set alone, this one isn't worth the money... Truly a 'meh' for me.
I've got a garage-full of tools. I also keep a set of screwdrivers (one flathead, one phillips) plus a pair of pliers on each floor of the house to tighten drawer pulls, doorknobs, faucet knobs, etc. This is a decent set of extra tools for someone starting out (apartment dweller, etc; easier than calling the super), but it ain't all you'll need; but you can stash them in a drawer "just in case."
The problem is that once you start using tools, you find you need more tools. You'll need a pair of regular pliers, plus needle-nose, channel locks, and maybe diagonal cutters (AKA dikes). It would be nice to have a simple voltmeter so you could see if the power is really off before you start replacing that ceiling light fixture. A big-ass hammer is always good, but so is a rubber mallet which doesn't deform the wonkus that you're working on. Vise-grips are useful to hold the wonkus with. Then you need a box to hold all this shit in. And so it goes.
The bottom line is that if you're buying this because you need an extra set of hex keys or screwdrivers, go for it. If you're buying it with the thought that these are all the tools you'll ever need, think again. And if you're buying it in hopes that @snapster will send you a HDTV in the same box just because, well, good luck on that.