@jc283 I contacted the company. Living in Vermont they tend to get get weird about people using the states name. Well they don't really have anything to do with vermont. They haven't since 1961. Also quality wise. About 1 in 6 pieces were broken before the packaging was opened.
@baqui63 Slight difference between "cannot stay up" and "have 8am jobs with 1 hour commutes". Not to imply I sympathize with any "whiners", just saying I understand where they come from. I myself have missed out on more deals than I could count on a shop-class teacher's hand.
@Sane you are completely correct. I misspoke. I apologize to all. I should have said: not part of the bunch of frakking whiners who think that others should make up for their choices, regardless of the motivation behind said choices.
I don't own tools and if I had to borrow any it would not be any of these things -And I have never had anybody ask if they could borrow any of these tools.. Hammer yes these things.................meh
@kyle170 Thank you. I bought the last round also. Quality is adequate for 90% of what 90% of the population would need it for. The other 10% don't speak for me.
I'm lible to kill and or maim myself considering you included a saw, so I'll pass. My mandoline already claimed the pad of my finger, and I'm terrified of sharp objects since.
@brhfl I've injured myself with less. I'm a walking disaster, and the many cuts and scars I have all over are a testament to it. If I'd stop cutting/burning/bruising/injuring myself I'd be thrilled to bits.
What the meh? I was half tempted...but then I realized, I got similar...and better quality tools (not by much mind you) already that do everything I need. So, yeah thanks but no thanks.
@YahSah15 Also known as Allen heads, after Allen T. Fuckphilips, genius inventor of yet one more screw. In all seriousness, hex/allen screws are advantageous in applications where you need torque, as they won't cam out like philips, or slip and get stabby like flat.
@YahSah15 They place bewitching magic spells on people. Or they help you when you are using a system of numerical notation that has 16 rather than 10 as its base. They might also assist in designating a crystal system in which three coplanar axes of equal length are separated by 60° and a fourth axis of a different length is at right angles to these. They only come in sets of six. I starred my own reply.
That banana saw just oozes uselessness and/or potential for injury. The screw driver and hex keys are a decent value if you're a VMP. But since I'm suburban man with a 25-year accumulation of tools, meh.
@cengland0 The 25% off aren't as common anymore, but I do have bunch of tape measures! And 6-piece screwdriver sets! As for "at least 25% better", that's being generous, @RedOak. I'd put them on par with each other; VA isn't the same VA as in the olden days. :(
@narfcake The 25% coupons appear during holidays. The 20% ones come in the mail all the time and I have a huge stack of those. I also have a box full of flashlights, screwdrivers, tape measures, and tarps. Some of the other free items aren't even worth free such as the scissors.
@cengland0 Yeah, their scissors suck big time. The 9-led lights are meh, but the occasional 27-led magnetic ones kickass. The magnetic trays are super handy too; I bought those before they were ever offered with coupon.
@narfcake I love those 27-led lights. I get them every single time I can and have an ammo case full of them. I remove the batteries so they don't leak when stored. I don't know why I have so many because those are the ones I don't give away as gifts. I give away the 9 led ones instead. What am I going to do with all those lights? You know you have a problem when you collect so much of the same crap that you cannot possibly ever use them all.
Oh.Oh. East Coast here and I almost forgot! Not tonight though Meh, I'm giving this a personal Meh, but a global Yeah. And what is it with everyone pushing hex sets the last few months? I blame this on a saturated IKEA market.
Our last set of VA tools were really hit n miss whether they worked or not. But buying this thing because of the hex keys and meaningful-pleasing-chipmunk
Might pull the trigger on this for the hex keys. Ok to leave in the panniers of my bike for emergencies and I won't give a damn if they are stolen... Like my substantially nicer tools.
@DM396 Yeah, it's a small group starting up that has had explosive growth. You get what you pay for: You can either have it cheap, fast, or good, pick 2. (And sometimes you'll only get one, them's the breaks.)
ugh expectations dashed to the ground what do then? you will not get my money today sirs! GOOD DAY, and you can pay someone else to buy this off you this time I will not do such things!
I am almost certain I bought this screwdriver set from Home Depot rebadged to their HDX brand for $5 or $6. I mainly wanted the flexible extension to get some screws into an awkward position on the back side of some equipment racks and it worked great for that. The bits are fairly small and the quality is about what you'd expect for the price. Nothing to build a house with, but good for smaller things needing assembly or electronics.
@wishod Would that be a #0 phillips? Or a #00? What if the screws aren't phillips but are allen or torx? Do I run out and buy "one solid" one of those too so I can remove the cover to this one doodad? And is it a T5, T8, or a combination of both? Not everyone needs tools that are designed to last a lifetime; they just need the tool for very occasional use. And these fulfill that role.
To further expand on this, it's a reason to Harbor Freight's success. Yes, they're cheap; sometimes, very cheap. But if someone only needs the tool for occasional use, such cheap tools are perfect. And heck, sometimes cheap tools still work great in production use. At the shop where my dad used to work, the welding department runs several sub-$10 HF angle grinders, already mounted with different cutting and grinding discs. In use, it's faster to just grab the next grinder than to switch discs mid work, and by not running all the time, they've collectively outlasted the $80 name brand angle grinder.
@wishod Because a screwdriver failing while I'm trying to fix something that's already broken is a bigger risk than saying "fuck it, I won't even try!", so I'm just going to spend more money replacing this instead of seeing if it's just something minor like a loose wire? A piece of plastic fell in between the vent hole on the oven door, which was secured with Robertson screws, so I should say "no, since these screwdriver bits are crap, I'm just going to ignore it and spend $1k for a new oven."? I don't understand your logic.
BTW, the 13-piece driver and bit set that came from a 98-cents store (yep, not even 99-cents store quality!) worked just fine in removing the door panel. I also know of no other appliance here that uses a S1 drive.
I have other tools, but this is cheap enough to throw in the luggage for emergencies. If it breaks, whatever, it's cheap, but it'll still probably get the job done.
@willoneal No. Just the basic vanilla screw/unscrew stuff. I've also used mine to disassemble smaller electronic items.. The ones with the impossibly small screws.. My "Mac" reference was a throw-back to the good old days of woot.com...
@petrosclark for everyday, small household duty, these will probably stand up just fine. However, they just don't have the durability of better crafted tools for daily work, especially the hex keys where some extra elbow grease or torque would be needed. Cheaper plastic handle construction. By the same token, I have a set of the drivers (similar, anyway - purchased at Home Depot for $4), and they're perfect for getting into tight spots - especially PC's or other electronic equipment. If you're looking for the driver set alone, this one isn't worth the money... Truly a 'meh' for me.
@lumpthar Barney must be busy. No "I love purple" anytime a color is mentioned. I've always wondered if he has a notification set up anytime that happens and then he chimes in
I've got a garage-full of tools. I also keep a set of screwdrivers (one flathead, one phillips) plus a pair of pliers on each floor of the house to tighten drawer pulls, doorknobs, faucet knobs, etc. This is a decent set of extra tools for someone starting out (apartment dweller, etc; easier than calling the super), but it ain't all you'll need; but you can stash them in a drawer "just in case."
The problem is that once you start using tools, you find you need more tools. You'll need a pair of regular pliers, plus needle-nose, channel locks, and maybe diagonal cutters (AKA dikes). It would be nice to have a simple voltmeter so you could see if the power is really off before you start replacing that ceiling light fixture. A big-ass hammer is always good, but so is a rubber mallet which doesn't deform the wonkus that you're working on. Vise-grips are useful to hold the wonkus with. Then you need a box to hold all this shit in. And so it goes.
The bottom line is that if you're buying this because you need an extra set of hex keys or screwdrivers, go for it. If you're buying it with the thought that these are all the tools you'll ever need, think again. And if you're buying it in hopes that @snapster will send you a HDTV in the same box just because, well, good luck on that.
I think the saw would be quite useful for camping - I use a larger version pruning saw, but this would fit in a pocket. In for 1 (and in CST, not EST :) !
Specs
Condition: New
Warranty: 1 Year Vermont American
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
Estimated Delivery: 1/27 - 1/29
What’s in the Box?
1x 23-Piece precision screwdriver set
1x Folding Saw
1x SAE hex key set
1x Metric hex key set
Pictures
The set
Hex keys
Saw
Precision screwdriver set
Safety first
Warranty
90 days
Banana for scale!
Yikes
Notice they didn't give a price for Amazon or MSRP...that's because it's literally worthless!
Meh
omg I can cut so many bananas
@rmf83 and put them back together with the Hex keys and screwdriver
@stryper2000 Yes! This set is a must have for people who love mutilating bananas
@rmf83
Bath?
@spencer060 Couldn't even fix your bath with these.
I'm a tool so I bought one.
vermehnt amehrican
@Lotsofgoats Vermin Supreme?
@Saffer49 only if I get that free pony
Are these bath safe?
Mehrica !!!
@somf69 Mehff yeah!
I've already bought a lifetime supply of "dad tools" from you meh.
I didn't know Vermont was a part of China now.
@jc283 I contacted the company. Living in Vermont they tend to get get weird about people using the states name. Well they don't really have anything to do with vermont. They haven't since 1961.
Also quality wise. About 1 in 6 pieces were broken before the packaging was opened.
@jc283 said Fox News whenever they get the chance
@jc283 VA is a Bosch brand, but a very low-end one
@somf69 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
Who are you calling a tool? Oh, never mind...
Why is everyone asking if they're bath safe, the real question is if they are machine washable!
@nchew003 nope. I tried and they got wrinkled. I recommend hand washing and air drying to stay on the safe side.
@nchew003 cuz bath is the secret word.
why am I tempted to buy three of these?
@baqui63 So they'll sell out and the east coast folks will be all whiney again!
@narfcake I'm an East Coast folk. not part of the bunch of fraking whiners that cannot stay up until midnight tho.
@baqui63 Slight difference between "cannot stay up" and "have 8am jobs with 1 hour commutes". Not to imply I sympathize with any "whiners", just saying I understand where they come from. I myself have missed out on more deals than I could count on a shop-class teacher's hand.
@Sane you are completely correct. I misspoke. I apologize to all. I should have said: not part of the bunch of frakking whiners who think that others should make up for their choices, regardless of the motivation behind said choices.
@baqui63 werd
How do you use these with a sansa?
@eeterrific Need a vice to hold the Sansa. Also wear gloves and goggles.
Wow, I've been trying to find a good banana saw. Thank goodness for meh!
I said , Meh why not. In for a bundle. Even if they are probably shoddy
@stryper2000 curious what it might do to that "annoying orange".
I love purple.
you'd have to use Harbor Freight as the comparison store.
pass.
I don't own tools and if I had to borrow any it would not be any of these things -And I have never had anybody ask if they could borrow any of these tools.. Hammer yes these things.................meh
This is actually pretty good stuff. I ordered some last time and I'm in for one again because I was happy with the quality of the stuff :)
@kyle170 Thank you. I bought the last round also. Quality is adequate for 90% of what 90% of the population would need it for. The other 10% don't speak for me.
Banana
@ACraigL Saw is for cutting.
aww man, put up some more of the screwdrivers from the last Vermont American sale!
I'm lible to kill and or maim myself considering you included a saw, so I'll pass. My mandoline already claimed the pad of my finger, and I'm terrified of sharp objects since.
@Tiamat114 I'm guessing the saw isn't really sharp…
@brhfl I've injured myself with less. I'm a walking disaster, and the many cuts and scars I have all over are a testament to it. If I'd stop cutting/burning/bruising/injuring myself I'd be thrilled to bits.
Same brand as the tools up for sale on December 12, 2014. https://meh.com/forum/topics/vermont-american-tool-bundle
https://meh.com/deals/vermont-american-3-piece-tool-set
@cengland0 Yep, but now you get a mini saw. Glad you saw that last $ale.
@kylewood And hex keys.
If your bananas are a little over ripe, you will want to freeze them before sawing.
@hamjudo True. An don't bring a banana to a saw fight.
What the meh? I was half tempted...but then I realized, I got similar...and better quality tools (not by much mind you) already that do everything I need. So, yeah thanks but no thanks.
What does a hex set do? Seriously.
Or should I phrase it 'what is a hex tool used for'?
@YahSah15 Most IKEA furniture and Rollerblades
@kylewood These do look slightly less likely to make me want to kill myself then using the little one that comes with ikea stuff
@YahSah15 Also known as Allen heads, after Allen T. Fuckphilips, genius inventor of yet one more screw. In all seriousness, hex/allen screws are advantageous in applications where you need torque, as they won't cam out like philips, or slip and get stabby like flat.
@kylewood Also bicycles.
@brhfl Thank you....I think.
@YahSah15 They place bewitching magic spells on people. Or they help you when you are using a system of numerical notation that has 16 rather than 10 as its base. They might also assist in designating a crystal system in which three coplanar axes of equal length are separated by 60° and a fourth axis of a different length is at right angles to these. They only come in sets of six. I starred my own reply.
@Pavlov I failed base 1. don't make fun of this oldster whose sibling has been a programmer since the '70's! (...and an IT honcho)
@YahSah15 I wasn't making fun . . . just having a little. Hell, the "I starred my own reply" part gave that away! HA!
@Pavlov ...:)
My meh button is broken! What have the mehtagods wrought!!!!
@eeterrific you may need to resign into your account..... I think.
@kylewood @eeterrific then how did he/she post that message if not signed in?
@kylewood resign as in quit? heh
That banana saw just oozes uselessness and/or potential for injury. The screw driver and hex keys are a decent value if you're a VMP. But since I'm suburban man with a 25-year accumulation of tools, meh.
Harbor Freight not-so-exact comparison:
Total price @ HF, $18.
@narfcake so these meh tools are 44% of the HF price... and thankfully the meh tools are at least 25% better than the HF tools.
@narfcake And then you can get 25% off coupons for Harbor Freight and get a free flashlight with your purchase.
@cengland0 The 25% off aren't as common anymore, but I do have bunch of tape measures! And 6-piece screwdriver sets! As for "at least 25% better", that's being generous, @RedOak. I'd put them on par with each other; VA isn't the same VA as in the olden days. :(
@narfcake The 25% coupons appear during holidays. The 20% ones come in the mail all the time and I have a huge stack of those. I also have a box full of flashlights, screwdrivers, tape measures, and tarps. Some of the other free items aren't even worth free such as the scissors.
@cengland0 Yeah, their scissors suck big time. The 9-led lights are meh, but the occasional 27-led magnetic ones kickass. The magnetic trays are super handy too; I bought those before they were ever offered with coupon.
@narfcake I love those 27-led lights. I get them every single time I can and have an ammo case full of them. I remove the batteries so they don't leak when stored. I don't know why I have so many because those are the ones I don't give away as gifts. I give away the 9 led ones instead. What am I going to do with all those lights? You know you have a problem when you collect so much of the same crap that you cannot possibly ever use them all.
@cengland0 Looks towards closet. Sooo ... when is shirt.woot printing on purple AA shirts again? :)
@narfcake And you are world-famous for your collection of shirts.
@cengland0 Well with enough meh battery purchases you ought to be set for lights if the power grid goes down for days...
@Kidsandliz Those lights take AAA batteries, which hasn't shown up here that much.
@cengland0 make your own tanning bed.
@dharr18 They're not UV LEDs.
@narfcake details…minor details lol
I love purple.
These tools do not have pagination. I'm out.
Saw is useless to me.
Other two, though... meh, all right.
Oh.Oh. East Coast here and I almost forgot! Not tonight though Meh, I'm giving this a personal Meh, but a global Yeah. And what is it with everyone pushing hex sets the last few months? I blame this on a saturated IKEA market.
Thank you, meh.
Haven't I meh'd these already?
Picked up the bundle last time. The precision set has been used a few times already and come in quite handy.
I'll give you $4 for the two things that aren't the thing I bought in the last Vermont American bundle.
Our last set of VA tools were really hit n miss whether they worked or not. But buying this thing because of the hex keys and
meaningful-pleasing-chipmunk
Might pull the trigger on this for the hex keys. Ok to leave in the panniers of my bike for emergencies and I won't give a damn if they are stolen... Like my substantially nicer tools.
I wanted to buy one of these, but since my first order from 1/7/15 hasn't shipped yet, meh!
@DM396 dude, everything you order from this site will take at least 2 weeks to arrive.;
@communist Yes, I know it will take awhile to arrive after it ships with Smartpost, but it hasn't even shipped yet!!!
@DM396 Yeah, it's a small group starting up that has had explosive growth. You get what you pay for: You can either have it cheap, fast, or good, pick 2. (And sometimes you'll only get one, them's the breaks.)
@DM396 u can trust that meh will ship. They aren't out to screw ya . . . granted it does take a while but hey that's the game . . .
ugh expectations dashed to the ground what do then? you will not get my money today sirs! GOOD DAY, and you can pay someone else to buy this off you this time I will not do such things!
elite-reclusive-louse
junky junk junk. meh
I am almost certain I bought this screwdriver set from Home Depot rebadged to their HDX brand for $5 or $6. I mainly wanted the flexible extension to get some screws into an awkward position on the back side of some equipment racks and it worked great for that. The bits are fairly small and the quality is about what you'd expect for the price. Nothing to build a house with, but good for smaller things needing assembly or electronics.
Already own too many quality tools, I'll pass on crappy ones. Meh!
Mega meh.
Buying cheap tools is stupid. It's better to buy 1 solid philips screwdriver than this whole set.
@wishod Would that be a #0 phillips? Or a #00? What if the screws aren't phillips but are allen or torx? Do I run out and buy "one solid" one of those too so I can remove the cover to this one doodad? And is it a T5, T8, or a combination of both? Not everyone needs tools that are designed to last a lifetime; they just need the tool for very occasional use. And these fulfill that role.
To further expand on this, it's a reason to Harbor Freight's success. Yes, they're cheap; sometimes, very cheap. But if someone only needs the tool for occasional use, such cheap tools are perfect. And heck, sometimes cheap tools still work great in production use. At the shop where my dad used to work, the welding department runs several sub-$10 HF angle grinders, already mounted with different cutting and grinding discs. In use, it's faster to just grab the next grinder than to switch discs mid work, and by not running all the time, they've collectively outlasted the $80 name brand angle grinder.
@narfcake It's better not to own a tool, than own a tool which may fail you at a very inappropriate moment.
@wishod Because a screwdriver failing while I'm trying to fix something that's already broken is a bigger risk than saying "fuck it, I won't even try!", so I'm just going to spend more money replacing this instead of seeing if it's just something minor like a loose wire? A piece of plastic fell in between the vent hole on the oven door, which was secured with Robertson screws, so I should say "no, since these screwdriver bits are crap, I'm just going to ignore it and spend $1k for a new oven."? I don't understand your logic.
BTW, the 13-piece driver and bit set that came from a 98-cents store (yep, not even 99-cents store quality!) worked just fine in removing the door panel. I also know of no other appliance here that uses a S1 drive.
deserted-tangy-land
I have other tools, but this is cheap enough to throw in the luggage for emergencies. If it breaks, whatever, it's cheap, but it'll still probably get the job done.
You all seem to be overlooking the important question!,,
Will these work with a Mac?
@andrewkl If you mean the specialty screwdrivers to remove batteries, no.
@andrewkl https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Pro-Tech-Toolkit/IF145-072-1
@willoneal No. Just the basic vanilla screw/unscrew stuff. I've also used mine to disassemble smaller electronic items.. The ones with the impossibly small screws.. My "Mac" reference was a throw-back to the good old days of woot.com...
@andrewkl I tried that a week ago and got taken literally too.
I work in an IT area where screwdrivers walk away as fast as a stripper when the CC gets maxed out...
stiff-handsomely-experience
I don't get it, are these made of plaster or something? Why is everyone complaining about quality?
@petrosclark for everyday, small household duty, these will probably stand up just fine. However, they just don't have the durability of better crafted tools for daily work, especially the hex keys where some extra elbow grease or torque would be needed. Cheaper plastic handle construction. By the same token, I have a set of the drivers (similar, anyway - purchased at Home Depot for $4), and they're perfect for getting into tight spots - especially PC's or other electronic equipment. If you're looking for the driver set alone, this one isn't worth the money... Truly a 'meh' for me.
Hey! These are in Georgia red, but not purple.
@lumpthar red is the new purple
@lumpthar Barney must be busy. No "I love purple" anytime a color is mentioned. I've always wondered if he has a notification set up anytime that happens and then he chimes in
I love purple.
@kylewood Boo!
meh. I would've bought for $5 but $8 is a bit much
Important safety reminder: ALWAYS wear your safety goggles when cutting bananas.
$10 for just hex set at Home Depot, I'm in.
Nebraska hates (these) tools.
@ACraigL Ah! Someone from Nebraska just caved in. Banana.
the Baby Arm needed to be cutting that banana
I've got a garage-full of tools. I also keep a set of screwdrivers (one flathead, one phillips) plus a pair of pliers on each floor of the house to tighten drawer pulls, doorknobs, faucet knobs, etc. This is a decent set of extra tools for someone starting out (apartment dweller, etc; easier than calling the super), but it ain't all you'll need; but you can stash them in a drawer "just in case."
The problem is that once you start using tools, you find you need more tools. You'll need a pair of regular pliers, plus needle-nose, channel locks, and maybe diagonal cutters (AKA dikes). It would be nice to have a simple voltmeter so you could see if the power is really off before you start replacing that ceiling light fixture. A big-ass hammer is always good, but so is a rubber mallet which doesn't deform the wonkus that you're working on. Vise-grips are useful to hold the wonkus with. Then you need a box to hold all this shit in. And so it goes.
The bottom line is that if you're buying this because you need an extra set of hex keys or screwdrivers, go for it. If you're buying it with the thought that these are all the tools you'll ever need, think again. And if you're buying it in hopes that @snapster will send you a HDTV in the same box just because, well, good luck on that.
@Sarahsda HDTV = (H)andy (D)andy (T)ools from (V)ermont.
@narfcake Hadn't thought of that. Now I need a BATH -- Big-Assed Tool Holder.
@Sarahsda I have needle nosed pliers but they live in my knife kit. I use them for pulling bones out of fish fillets.
awry-vexing-banana
Did I win?
No Georgia Red. . . for that alone, meh.
I love purple.
@jrwofuga Bu-bu-but they are red and black! If that's not Georgia, what is?
I think the saw would be quite useful for camping - I use a larger version pruning saw, but this would fit in a pocket. In for 1 (and in CST, not EST :) !
@ManBehindPan You are the bravest man in the world putting a saw in your pocket.
@ManBehindPan Well,..... it does fold up.
@editorkid I didn't say I would put it in my pocket
woolly-vacant-perch for me