According to an in-depth review I found, the actual native resolution is 800x480 (480p). 720p and 1080p are supported inputs, but are downscaled to 480. https://nerdtechy.com/vankyo-leisure-410-review
@ilovereality@kensey that’s definitely a mistake. Maybe lux, but no possible way lumens. And that review sounds like it was written by the manufacturer’s marketing guy
@dam091@robson You take that back. Look at how well Isuzu is doing in America right now.
Actually it was a really successful campaign. The vehicles just weren’t that good.
@Fodder650@robson ok so, we got this guy, he’s gonna say good things about the cars, but he’s a liar, see? And that’s gonna make our cars seem really good… Somehow…
“I am not a crook”
“Mission Accomplished”
“You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie”
COVID is “totally under control”
“The election was rigged”
“It was a perfect phone call”
"Republicans will always protect people with pre-existing conditions”
@DoctorOW
it means its bullshit. It is actually 480p, and the inputs are accepted at 720p by default, and 1080p is allowed.
But those are only the inputs. The output is 480p. And output is what you see on the wall or whatever you’re projecting against. So this is a regular “SD” projector, and you will be disappointed.
@DoctorOW Its deceptive marketing BS. The projector is a 1280x720 projector period. If you hook a device to it that is incapable of outputting a resolution below 1820x1080, the projector will gk ahead and scale that down to 1289x720 for you.
1280x720 actually is a great spec for the price believe it or not. Most in this price range are the 480p that the other guy is talking about and the spec of the old version of this projector which I think has a few people confused.
The real garbage spec here is the 90 lumens… Again that’s understandable for the price but you are going to need a pretty dark room.
@dam091@ohhwell
And had I first checked elsewhere for specs, I would not have called it “crummy”, because really it’s not. It’s Discontinued, which is not automatically the same as Crummy by any means.
@dtwsportsfan
IDK I could be wrong, but…
With ONLY 30 irks to be gotten at a time (as of late) I’m thinking the winners must be into far better equipment! However, I think it’s a really neat gift for any young child, how cool would it be to watch your favorite movie or cartoon OVER & OVER again, (as they LOVE to do) lifesize, on the wall?! WAY COOL if you ask me!
480p input isn’t as bad as it sounds, since the crappy optics in these projectors make it impossible to get the whole screen in focus regardless. 90 lumens however means the thing is only useful in pitch black or projecting on a very small screen.
@narfcake honestly, the quality of that write-up is excellent. And, I’m sad to say, so much better than the current standard. There are constant spelling and grammar mistakes that I can’t understand how don’t get caught in editing. But more than that, the writing is just lazy sometimes. Personally, I find it off-putting when a bunch of curses are thrown in to write-ups. It’s lazy. It’s unprofessional. And it should be unnecessary.
When I’m making my consumption choices, I employ a discerning eye to seek out the crummiest, flimsiest, and, yes, crappiest of everything. The condo right above the dumpster. The boat that was the scene of a quadruple-homicide after a drug deal gone bad. The wine that comes in a styrofoam jug.
@Narwalt Yeah, 90 lumens is so low that I wonder if it’s an error. The tiny USB powered flashlight that I keep on my keyring and is considerably smaller than my pinky puts out 300 lumens, so I don’t get how they could make it so bad unless they are trying to.
@brennyn@dam091@Narwalt
That’s an obvious error in the specs. All other sources show that if this is the 2017 model, it’s 2500, and if it’s the 2020, it’s 4000. At 90 lumens, it would not even produce a color-discernible image. I have no idea where that figure comes from, unless they are measuring it at the projection screen - which they might, if they’re adhering to a “standard” for measurement that apparently no one else is using.
@brennyn@dam091@Narwalt
And having looked at the ISO21118 document now, I think I see what’s going on. That is almost certainly a misstatement, and should be 90 lux per square meter, which is the form of brightness measurement specified in the document. This seems about right for a 2500-4000 lumen light source output, which is NOT what that document addresses. US marketing, like that of many other nations, will generally fasten on to the most impressive specification about a device even when it’s deceptive (often because it’s deceptive), and the cited ISO doc is an attempt to establish a more meaningful standard; the measurable light reaching the screen under a specified set of conditions. I have a query in to Vankyo seeking clarification.
@dam091@Narwalt@werehatrack Thanks for looking into this, lumen and lux getting mixed up somewhere along the line seems like a very likely and simple explanation.
Ok. Seriously. I have no idea why you choose to comment as many times as you do sharing incorrect information. I’m gonna try and clear things up for you as best I can.
Here’s a definition of lux vs lumen: The lux (symbol lx), latin for light, is a unit of illumination: 1 lux is the illuminance produced by 1 candela on a surface perpendicular to the light rays at a distance of 1 meter from the source.
The lux thus corresponds to the illuminance that is obtained when each square meter of the considered surface receives a luminous flux of one lumen. The number of lux is thus found as the quotient of the total received luminous flux, expressed in lumens, and the size of the illuminated area expressed in square meters; therefore 1 lux = 1 lumen / m².
Lumen is never measured at the projection screen, and lux is never measured at the source. What’s more, you don’t measure lux per square meter, as lux is the measure of lumens per square meter.
90 lumens is perfectly accurate for this projector. Compare Anker’s nebula portable projector, far superior to this model, at 100 lumens. Anker’s top of the line Cosmos projector, on the other hand, is 1500 lumens.
Please, please stop flooding the comments with reply after reply that does nothing productive. You’re confusing and misleading people because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@dam091@Narwalt@werehatrack We know the difference between lumen and lux and that is not the source of confusion here. Different places around the web are reporting wildly different numbers.
@ohhwell
And unless they’ve brought the light output up to something substantially more than 90 lumens, the 720p isn’t going to make a bloody bit of difference.
@mandirose@ohhwell
And dredging through all the comments (in-house and outhouse), it looks like the illumination level of 90 lumens is wrong, with 2500 mentioned in one cite. Maybe it’s bothering me less than it should, but those numbers make this look like a reasonably good deal instead of “WTF have I just done?”
@ohhwell@werehatrack I can tell you we personally tested this model against several others and I wouldn’t have bought it if I thought it wasn’t a great deal! As always, I’m biased because I’m the buyer of this product.
@mandirose@werehatrack Yeah, that 2500 number wasn’t lumens and the reviewer immediately acknowledged that the lux rating without specifics on measurement was incredibly misleading.
My god, if this projector was 2500 Lumens it would be the literal absolute deal of the century!
@mandirose Thank you for the legit confirmation. I am teetering on buying one just for the hell of it. I guess if the 90 lumens tanks it I can gift it to my nephew or something…
@kensey@ohhwell@werehatrack I’ll just be here patiently waiting for you to either berate me or tell me I’m amazing… @ohhwell we are actually gifting this and a chromecast to our Niece and Nephew for the holidays so worse come to worse, you’ll for sure have a hit of a gift on your hands
@kensey@mandirose@werehatrack If it gets here fast enough, I will try to remember to leave my thoughts on it. I don’t expect much from this for the price so I will be very fair.
And yeah, I am going to be VERY careful with the unboxing if I end up gifting it.
@kensey@mandirose@werehatrack OK so, I just got mine yesterday evening (thanks Meh) and I have to say… OK I am actually impressed for the price!
It looks to be way more than 90 lumens but it’s hard to say for sure just by eyesight. All I have on hand to test against it is an old Dell 3400mp rated at 1500 lumens. Yes, the dell is quite a bit brighter but the Vanko keep up better than I thought. I can’t even begin to estimate the lumens by eye but it feels more like maybe 500…
In our bedroom with just the cheap horizontal blinds closed and sun shining right on the front window, this Vanko is actually quite usable for media at 55". That really surprised me.
It certainly is 1280x720 native and is just as sharp as that spec should be. The colors are also surprisingly quite nice if maybe a little saturated but again, it’s a really nice picture. One thing that also surprised me is how much I like mechanical keystone over digital!
It feels rather well built. Being LED, it is instant on and only pulls 46 watts when running. Standby was 1 watt.
Yes, you were right. This is a really nice little projector for $50. I wouldn’t built a home theater room around it but man this would be amazing for a kid with a streaming device and their game console. Or shoot, really, if you have a dark enough room and are on a low budget, this could really be your main entertainment screen for 55"to65" or even 100" if your room is dark enough.
This may be suitable for halloween projections in your window, speaking of which I have to track down my even crappier xmas/halloween meh projectors, how many lumens do you think those bad boys put out
@oldmantick That’s what I was thinking. I have a couple from Home Depot too that probably out-perform the Meh ones. Somewhere around here. I guess I don’t need more.
Okay, doing the Research that I ought to have done before believing the yammers above, here’s some specs for the unit, including a Big Effing Hint about why Meh ended up with them; the magic word “Discontinued”:
The site shows that any supported resolution other than 720 is interpolated, not native, but 720 ain’t crap. The lumen output is given as 2500, which is adequate for the image size supported, but the gotchas include “fixed focal length” and a maximum distance to the screen of 21.7 feet. That explains the “leisure” label pretty well; this is not big-room-capable, though it probably would do well enough in a conference room. But any business that needs to be using video presentations had better be able to afford better than this, and the manufacturer seems to have had a good grip on that.
And I still don’t need it, even though it’s not crummy and it’s actually a reasonably good value.
@mandirose
Erm for me, your link is broken. Interface issue?And having looked at ISO 21118, I’m pretty sure I know what the source of the confusion about the numbers is.
Please note we’ve updated the specs and the comp. Unfortunately, we linked to the non-upgraded version previously. These are the 2020 upgraded version that are 720P Native. Additionally, worth mentioning, we tested this model and several others and can say confidently (albeit somewhat biased, since I am the buyer of these) that we think these are a great deal at $49.
And here’s a link to a review of the 2020 upgraded model, which states that it has an output of 4000 lumens, which still makes it a “darkened room only” device.
That’s not quite right - the review says the following…
4000 Lux brightness (lux is a measurement of brightness over an area, so this statistic is unfortunately meaningless since they don’t specify the size of area measured)
@meauxfaux
And 4000 lux brightness has to be just as wrong, since Vankyo’s own measurments hint that total incident light across the screen would likely be closer to 400 lux or less, possibly 200-220. They claim 90 something, and the doc they cite specifies that the “something” is lux per square meter, so I’m going to combine the apparently reliable information available (the light output is not laughably low, the specs are supposed to be in lux/sq. m, an LED output of 2500-4000 lumens is consistent with that level of incident light at the screen) and go with “All The Published Information Contains Errors, But This Is What Would Make Sense”
I have one of these, the 480p model bought last year. After a while dust accumulates inside the lense. I’m tempted to try opening it and see if I can figure a way to use some canned air on it.
Everything is wired including sound output, so not so portable. need at least need a Bluetooth.
BTW they took down their Amazon listing and its reviews. was checking out last night and gone this morning … lolz
@mkalband aww, I was hoping there would be some reviews. But clearly, this thing is just one of those generic cheap Chinese pieces of junk. Every one on Amazon probably has exactly the same insides.
Summary: For a sub $100 projector, it’s very nice. Not super bright, but plenty of light with the drapes drawn or at night. Image quality is good (for the price) and certainly good enough to watch a movie with. OK quality from a computer, but hard to get the entire screen 100% in focus, but plenty good focus adjustment for videos or games. I tested the HDMI and SD card inputs, it also includes USB stick, composite and VGA inputs.
Fan is a bit noisy, included tripod head isn’t rigid enough to support the projector without falling over, the remote mostly works well except for playing videos/photos from an SD card or USB stick (which need you to push the OK button on the projector body itself for some odd reason.)
I actually quite happy with the one I received. 90 lumens isn’t much, but, it doesn’t require a fully dark room to use. Image is very sharp. The internal sound is surprisingly good. Quite portable. Just used it last night in a motel room watching movies and Dr. Who off my iPad with a lightening to HDMI adapter. About a 96" diagonal screen equivalent on the wall was pretty nice…;^)
@waterdog Agreed. Just got mine in spite of FedEx wanting to kick it into another loop round the Midwest.
(Seriously, Meh, FedEx SUCKS in the upper Midwest.)
Image isn’t super-bright but is OK for maybe 60 or 70 inches in a darkened room. Definitely looks like 720p, and quite sharp. Much better than expected.
Fan noise isn’t bad, pretty quiet even when close to the projector.
I normally don’t care about cases at all, but yeah the case is nice and holds the projector, paperwork, and all the cables and tripod, neat and secure.
Minor complaint: The rubber lens cap needs to have the lens focused fully “inwards” to go on.
Specs
User Manual
Random 3rd Party Review
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$99.99 at Walmart
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Jan 27 - Thursday, Jan 30
Will this run Doom?
@yakkoTDI
Only if you add the optional PC.
Wow shitty
@arbdef
/giphy explain dalek
Vanks, but no Vanks.
According to an in-depth review I found, the actual native resolution is 800x480 (480p). 720p and 1080p are supported inputs, but are downscaled to 480. https://nerdtechy.com/vankyo-leisure-410-review
@kensey So it’s as good (bad) as we should expect?
@kensey hmmm that review says " the VANKYO 410 pushes out an impressive 2500 lumens"
@kensey There are 2 versions of the Leisure 410: 480p & 720p. Meh is selling the native 1280x720(720p) not the 480p model.
Here’s a review for the 720p model:
https://the-gadgeteer.com/2020/05/23/vankyo-leisure-410-2020-upgraded-mini-projector-review/
720p User manual-
https://cdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0268/7015/3313/files/Leisure_410_720P_User_Manual_V4.01_EN.pdf
@kensey the one we are selling is 720p. They did make a 480p version, this one we are selling is not it though.
@kensey @mehod this review feels like it was written by someone with zero experience in protectors. Or video products, for that matter
@ilovereality @kensey that’s definitely a mistake. Maybe lux, but no possible way lumens. And that review sounds like it was written by the manufacturer’s marketing guy
@mandirose Ugh, I hate when manufacturers do that. Model numbers should be immutable, dammit.
90 Lumens, so you get the full effect of The Invisible Man, no matter what you are watching.
@hchavers
It’s a leisure projector, so don’t use it at work.
Hey baby, wanna see my vanky leisure projector? I hear it looks like 200 inches if you use your imagination
How exactly does this project leisure?
@robson
Giphy doesn’t want to project leisure so.
@Fodder650 @robson worst marketing campaign in history
@dam091 @robson You take that back. Look at how well Isuzu is doing in America right now.
Actually it was a really successful campaign. The vehicles just weren’t that good.
@Fodder650 @robson ok so, we got this guy, he’s gonna say good things about the cars, but he’s a liar, see? And that’s gonna make our cars seem really good… Somehow…
@dam091 @Fodder650 @robson Kinda like certain former presidents, especially the last one.
“I am not a crook”
“Mission Accomplished”
“You’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie”
COVID is “totally under control”
“The election was rigged”
“It was a perfect phone call”
"Republicans will always protect people with pre-existing conditions”
@dam091 @Fodder650 @mike808 @robson “You can keep your existing insurance.”
What does this mean? Does it do 1080p or not?
@DoctorOW
it means its bullshit. It is actually 480p, and the inputs are accepted at 720p by default, and 1080p is allowed.
But those are only the inputs. The output is 480p. And output is what you see on the wall or whatever you’re projecting against. So this is a regular “SD” projector, and you will be disappointed.
@DoctorOW Its deceptive marketing BS. The projector is a 1280x720 projector period. If you hook a device to it that is incapable of outputting a resolution below 1820x1080, the projector will gk ahead and scale that down to 1289x720 for you.
1280x720 actually is a great spec for the price believe it or not. Most in this price range are the 480p that the other guy is talking about and the spec of the old version of this projector which I think has a few people confused.
The real garbage spec here is the 90 lumens… Again that’s understandable for the price but you are going to need a pretty dark room.
@DoctorOW @mike808 this is 720p native. It is not 480p
Meh you can do better than selling a very poor performing projector at a slight discount. This item should be 29.95.
Thanks for not having a Mehrathon tonight. Not that it would’ve kept me up, but I do have to work tomorrow.
Based on quick Google research, 90 lumens is enough for a 30-inch image in a pitch black room.
A 200-inch image in a dim room would need thousands of lumens.
Solution: buy thirty of these and align them carefully.
@awk Hey, whose side are you on?
Uggg. This is something I want to buy because I’m addicted to tinkering but then it will sit in my closet.
@Num1Zero Meh is not the place for you if you are trying to quit hording crap.
@Num1Zero @tweezak Stay away from the light!
Since I don’t need a projector at all when I can just echo the laptop’s screen to the 65" flat panel TV, I really don’t need a crummy projector.
@werehatrack A TV flex in the meh comments… SMH
@ohhwell @werehatrack 65" is hardly a flex
@dam091 Oh, I agree and yet, there it is lol.
@dam091 @ohhwell
And had I first checked elsewhere for specs, I would not have called it “crummy”, because really it’s not. It’s Discontinued, which is not automatically the same as Crummy by any means.
Linky to actual specs instead of spec-ulations.
@ohhwell @werehatrack your specs are incorrect. As has been mentioned, this is the 720 model. You posted specs for the 480.
Meh, keep them in the warehouse for the next IRK’s.
@dtwsportsfan Based on the 480p and the 90 lumens, I would certainly regret the IRK that included it.
@dtwsportsfan
I could be wrong, but…
IDK
With ONLY 30 irks to be gotten at a time (as of late) I’m thinking the winners must be into far better equipment! However, I think it’s a really neat gift for any young child, how cool would it be to watch your favorite movie or cartoon OVER & OVER again, (as they LOVE to do) lifesize, on the wall?! WAY COOL if you ask me!
@dtwsportsfan @Odysseus1001 I would be VERY happy getting one of these for $5!!
@dtwsportsfan @Odysseus1001 I’m not sure where everyone is seeing that’s it’s 480p but this is 720p
@dtwsportsfan @mandirose @Odysseus1001 the previous version was 480. When people search the model number, they keep getting results for that one.
Not sure why they wouldn’t just choose a new model number for the new model.
@dam091 @dtwsportsfan @mandirose @Odysseus1001 yeal that really stumps me as well. 489p to 720p is a big enough change for a new model.
480p input isn’t as bad as it sounds, since the crappy optics in these projectors make it impossible to get the whole screen in focus regardless. 90 lumens however means the thing is only useful in pitch black or projecting on a very small screen.
@jandrese it’s 720p, not 480p
@jandrese
And 2500 lumens, not 90.
@jandrese @werehatrack no it’s not. It’s 90
@jandrese @mandirose This 480/720 stuff is slowly leaving repetitive-land and entering The Hilarious Zone.
This brings back memories of the World’s Crappiest Projector.
@narfcake I almost bought one of those
@narfcake Somehow I think that title belongs to that one which plays short Halloween/Christmas snippets.
@narfcake wow, 12 years ago! What a different world woot was back then. What with the blatant honesty
@narfcake Thank you for my morning LOL.
@dam091 The pre-buyout days, when there wasn’t corporate oversight that was devoid of humor.
Some of the writers from back then are working here at meh (Mercatalyst) nowadays.
@narfcake honestly, the quality of that write-up is excellent. And, I’m sad to say, so much better than the current standard. There are constant spelling and grammar mistakes that I can’t understand how don’t get caught in editing. But more than that, the writing is just lazy sometimes. Personally, I find it off-putting when a bunch of curses are thrown in to write-ups. It’s lazy. It’s unprofessional. And it should be unnecessary.
@narfcake
/giphy smirk
If the brightness is really only 90 lumens, then any larger than 33" and the image would be too dim to see.
@Narwalt Yeah, 90 lumens is so low that I wonder if it’s an error. The tiny USB powered flashlight that I keep on my keyring and is considerably smaller than my pinky puts out 300 lumens, so I don’t get how they could make it so bad unless they are trying to.
@brennyn @Narwalt
90 lumens is wrong. It’s 2500.
@brennyn @Narwalt @werehatrack no it’s not. It’s 90.
@brennyn @dam091 @Narwalt
That’s an obvious error in the specs. All other sources show that if this is the 2017 model, it’s 2500, and if it’s the 2020, it’s 4000. At 90 lumens, it would not even produce a color-discernible image. I have no idea where that figure comes from, unless they are measuring it at the projection screen - which they might, if they’re adhering to a “standard” for measurement that apparently no one else is using.
@brennyn @dam091 @Narwalt
And having looked at the ISO21118 document now, I think I see what’s going on. That is almost certainly a misstatement, and should be 90 lux per square meter, which is the form of brightness measurement specified in the document. This seems about right for a 2500-4000 lumen light source output, which is NOT what that document addresses. US marketing, like that of many other nations, will generally fasten on to the most impressive specification about a device even when it’s deceptive (often because it’s deceptive), and the cited ISO doc is an attempt to establish a more meaningful standard; the measurable light reaching the screen under a specified set of conditions. I have a query in to Vankyo seeking clarification.
@dam091 @Narwalt @werehatrack Thanks for looking into this, lumen and lux getting mixed up somewhere along the line seems like a very likely and simple explanation.
@brennyn @Narwalt @werehatrack deep exhale
Ok. Seriously. I have no idea why you choose to comment as many times as you do sharing incorrect information. I’m gonna try and clear things up for you as best I can.
Here’s a definition of lux vs lumen:
The lux (symbol lx), latin for light, is a unit of illumination: 1 lux is the illuminance produced by 1 candela on a surface perpendicular to the light rays at a distance of 1 meter from the source.
The lux thus corresponds to the illuminance that is obtained when each square meter of the considered surface receives a luminous flux of one lumen. The number of lux is thus found as the quotient of the total received luminous flux, expressed in lumens, and the size of the illuminated area expressed in square meters; therefore 1 lux = 1 lumen / m².
Lumen is never measured at the projection screen, and lux is never measured at the source. What’s more, you don’t measure lux per square meter, as lux is the measure of lumens per square meter.
90 lumens is perfectly accurate for this projector. Compare Anker’s nebula portable projector, far superior to this model, at 100 lumens. Anker’s top of the line Cosmos projector, on the other hand, is 1500 lumens.
Please, please stop flooding the comments with reply after reply that does nothing productive. You’re confusing and misleading people because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@dam091 @Narwalt @werehatrack We know the difference between lumen and lux and that is not the source of confusion here. Different places around the web are reporting wildly different numbers.
@brennyn @Narwalt @werehatrack you might know, but the other person clearly does not. That’s who I was responding to.
Nope. I’ll stick with the ancient one I own. 720p and loud. But 2600 lumens.
Meh, you probably should have linked to a listing for the updated 2020 model that is native 720p.
Actually… Can we get a confirmation that this is the updated 720p model because the old 480p projector screams “meh”…
@ohhwell
And unless they’ve brought the light output up to something substantially more than 90 lumens, the 720p isn’t going to make a bloody bit of difference.
@werehatrack Well, if you mean that if you can’t see it, the resolution doesn’t mean a damn anyhow then yeah lol!
@ohhwell yes it’s native 720p.
@mandirose @ohhwell
And dredging through all the comments (in-house and outhouse), it looks like the illumination level of 90 lumens is wrong, with 2500 mentioned in one cite. Maybe it’s bothering me less than it should, but those numbers make this look like a reasonably good deal instead of “WTF have I just done?”
@ohhwell @werehatrack I can tell you we personally tested this model against several others and I wouldn’t have bought it if I thought it wasn’t a great deal! As always, I’m biased because I’m the buyer of this product.
@mandirose @ohhwell @werehatrack lumens and lux are not the same thing.
@mandirose @werehatrack Yeah, that 2500 number wasn’t lumens and the reviewer immediately acknowledged that the lux rating without specifics on measurement was incredibly misleading.
My god, if this projector was 2500 Lumens it would be the literal absolute deal of the century!
@mandirose Thank you for the legit confirmation. I am teetering on buying one just for the hell of it. I guess if the 90 lumens tanks it I can gift it to my nephew or something…
@mandirose @ohhwell @werehatrack Hell, I went ahead and bought one after all.
@kensey @mandirose @werehatrack lol, me too. Then an hour later has minor remorse then said F it, it’s only $50, I am sure I can find a use for it.
@kensey @ohhwell @werehatrack I’ll just be here patiently waiting for you to either berate me or tell me I’m amazing… @ohhwell we are actually gifting this and a chromecast to our Niece and Nephew for the holidays so worse come to worse, you’ll for sure have a hit of a gift on your hands
@kensey @mandirose @werehatrack If it gets here fast enough, I will try to remember to leave my thoughts on it. I don’t expect much from this for the price so I will be very fair.
And yeah, I am going to be VERY careful with the unboxing if I end up gifting it.
@kensey @mandirose @werehatrack OK so, I just got mine yesterday evening (thanks Meh) and I have to say… OK I am actually impressed for the price!
It looks to be way more than 90 lumens but it’s hard to say for sure just by eyesight. All I have on hand to test against it is an old Dell 3400mp rated at 1500 lumens. Yes, the dell is quite a bit brighter but the Vanko keep up better than I thought. I can’t even begin to estimate the lumens by eye but it feels more like maybe 500…
In our bedroom with just the cheap horizontal blinds closed and sun shining right on the front window, this Vanko is actually quite usable for media at 55". That really surprised me.
It certainly is 1280x720 native and is just as sharp as that spec should be. The colors are also surprisingly quite nice if maybe a little saturated but again, it’s a really nice picture. One thing that also surprised me is how much I like mechanical keystone over digital!
It feels rather well built. Being LED, it is instant on and only pulls 46 watts when running. Standby was 1 watt.
Yes, you were right. This is a really nice little projector for $50. I wouldn’t built a home theater room around it but man this would be amazing for a kid with a streaming device and their game console. Or shoot, really, if you have a dark enough room and are on a low budget, this could really be your main entertainment screen for 55"to65" or even 100" if your room is dark enough.
This may be suitable for halloween projections in your window, speaking of which I have to track down my even crappier xmas/halloween meh projectors, how many lumens do you think those bad boys put out
@oldmantick That’s what I was thinking. I have a couple from Home Depot too that probably out-perform the Meh ones. Somewhere around here. I guess I don’t need more.
Earlier this year we put up our own outdoor theater for less than $350. (No place in the house for a big screen.
For the most part, our weather is temperate and it’s fun to lay back in our gravity chairs with blankets over us and watch a movie.
I’m glad I didn’t wait, because I think this meh projector for sale would have had me pretty disappointed.
Okay, doing the Research that I ought to have done before believing the yammers above, here’s some specs for the unit, including a Big Effing Hint about why Meh ended up with them; the magic word “Discontinued”:
Stinky linky to site with specs
The site shows that any supported resolution other than 720 is interpolated, not native, but 720 ain’t crap. The lumen output is given as 2500, which is adequate for the image size supported, but the gotchas include “fixed focal length” and a maximum distance to the screen of 21.7 feet. That explains the “leisure” label pretty well; this is not big-room-capable, though it probably would do well enough in a conference room. But any business that needs to be using video presentations had better be able to afford better than this, and the manufacturer seems to have had a good grip on that.
And I still don’t need it, even though it’s not crummy and it’s actually a reasonably good value.
@werehatrack lumens and lux are not the same thing.
@werehatrack The correct link is actually https://www.projectorcentral.com/Vankyo-Leisure_410.htm
@mandirose
Erm for me, your link is broken. Interface issue?And having looked at ISO 21118, I’m pretty sure I know what the source of the confusion about the numbers is.
@mandirose @werehatrack Their link works for me and is indeed the correct one for this new version that is 720p.
Please note we’ve updated the specs and the comp. Unfortunately, we linked to the non-upgraded version previously. These are the 2020 upgraded version that are 720P Native. Additionally, worth mentioning, we tested this model and several others and can say confidently (albeit somewhat biased, since I am the buyer of these) that we think these are a great deal at $49.
@mandirose Need movie of one showing the TMBG video of the meh theme in a dark room.
And here’s a link to a review of the 2020 upgraded model, which states that it has an output of 4000 lumens, which still makes it a “darkened room only” device.
2020 model review, the “not discontinued” version
@werehatrack lumens and lux are not the same thing!
heyj, @werehatrack
That’s not quite right - the review says the following…
@meauxfaux
And 4000 lux brightness has to be just as wrong, since Vankyo’s own measurments hint that total incident light across the screen would likely be closer to 400 lux or less, possibly 200-220. They claim 90 something, and the doc they cite specifies that the “something” is lux per square meter, so I’m going to combine the apparently reliable information available (the light output is not laughably low, the specs are supposed to be in lux/sq. m, an LED output of 2500-4000 lumens is consistent with that level of incident light at the screen) and go with “All The Published Information Contains Errors, But This Is What Would Make Sense”
There are only positive reviews on Gxxgle and they are in depth and pretty convincing. That sold me!
I have one of these, the 480p model bought last year. After a while dust accumulates inside the lense. I’m tempted to try opening it and see if I can figure a way to use some canned air on it.
@Larry1977
The old Kodak slide projectors often had that issue, too, but they made it easy to pop the lens out for cleaning.
Yeesh, I still have an old Kodak carousel…
Everything is wired including sound output, so not so portable. need at least need a Bluetooth.
BTW they took down their Amazon listing and its reviews. was checking out last night and gone this morning … lolz
@mkalband do you have a link? I’d like to see it
@mkalband it does have built in speakers….
@dam091 https://www.amazon.com/VANKYOMINI-Projector-Supported-Portable-Compatible/dp/B098T9KWG7/ref=asc_df_B098T9KWG7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532476227910&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16407721442609536943&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027285&hvtargid=pla-1444254538967&psc=1
@mandirose im not a great fan of full wire setup but its just me
@mkalband aww, I was hoping there would be some reviews. But clearly, this thing is just one of those generic cheap Chinese pieces of junk. Every one on Amazon probably has exactly the same insides.
Seems luminous, yet luxurious at the same time, but I could be projecting my own views.
For $50, I’m quite impressed:
Summary: For a sub $100 projector, it’s very nice. Not super bright, but plenty of light with the drapes drawn or at night. Image quality is good (for the price) and certainly good enough to watch a movie with. OK quality from a computer, but hard to get the entire screen 100% in focus, but plenty good focus adjustment for videos or games. I tested the HDMI and SD card inputs, it also includes USB stick, composite and VGA inputs.
Fan is a bit noisy, included tripod head isn’t rigid enough to support the projector without falling over, the remote mostly works well except for playing videos/photos from an SD card or USB stick (which need you to push the OK button on the projector body itself for some odd reason.)
It draws 45 watts when on, 0.8 watts when off.
@summetj thanks for posting such a thorough review! Glad to hear you were as impressed for the price as we hoped you would be
I actually quite happy with the one I received. 90 lumens isn’t much, but, it doesn’t require a fully dark room to use. Image is very sharp. The internal sound is surprisingly good. Quite portable. Just used it last night in a motel room watching movies and Dr. Who off my iPad with a lightening to HDMI adapter. About a 96" diagonal screen equivalent on the wall was pretty nice…;^)
@waterdog Agreed. Just got mine in spite of FedEx wanting to kick it into another loop round the Midwest.
(Seriously, Meh, FedEx SUCKS in the upper Midwest.)
Image isn’t super-bright but is OK for maybe 60 or 70 inches in a darkened room. Definitely looks like 720p, and quite sharp. Much better than expected.
Fan noise isn’t bad, pretty quiet even when close to the projector.
I normally don’t care about cases at all, but yeah the case is nice and holds the projector, paperwork, and all the cables and tripod, neat and secure.
Minor complaint: The rubber lens cap needs to have the lens focused fully “inwards” to go on.
Overall, pretty decent for the price!