@hchavers for instance the dark one is currently swirling around me and about to consume my soul. Thankfully she knows that her continued survival depends on me buying more cat food and she can only survive so long on my dead corpse
@ThatsHeadly I was a latecomer to the series and only started watching a few months after the series ended. But as is the case with many AMC series, it was quite good and really drew me in. I’ll definitely spool it up on Netflix.
Maybe it’s the precursor to a spinoff. Like Better Call Saul.
ha ha. Nope, no spoiler. In the opener for BCS, they show Saul in the present day fixing himself a lonely drink and watching a VHS tape of his old TV commercials. He’s living under the name of Gene Taković and working at a Cinnabon in a Omaha mall.
I’m hoping that Kim Wexler is working at the GAP in that same mall, but alas, there’s no sign of her.
@llangley@therealjrn@tinamarie1974 I’ve tried several times to get into The Wire, but can’t make it past the first couple of episodes. Breaking Bad on the other hand, is one of the best TV shows of all times!
I really loved the series but by the 5th season Walt had no redeeming qualities and needed to die. I don’t know that I’ll watch the movie yet. But I can’t wait for the next season of Better Call Saul!!
@lseeber I tried watching it and quit early in season two. I thought it was well written and had intriguing plot-lines, but at that time, I had already “given up” on Walt (who had been so likable when the series started) and saw the writing on the wall.
I realize it is my hangup, but I need to be invested in at least one of the characters to maintain viewership for an on-going series (it’s less important in a 2 hour film). I don’t necessarily have to be rooting for the “good guy to come out on top” (e.g. it can be anticipation of the bad guy getting his come-uppance ) but “Breaking Bad” gave me no such rooting interest.
@DrWorm (SPOILERS) I totally understand. I think it was actually the 4th season (when he started scaring his wife) that I really was like… this guy has to die. If my husband hadn’t been watching it too, I would have quit then. As it was… it got better again and I did enjoy it thru the end. By the end, you were rooting for Jesse. Well… I was, lol.
@lseeber I have had some of my friends echo the sentiment that by the end, the story had flipped and you were rooting for Jesse. At the time I bowed out, he was almost impossible to like.
@FrankieP72 Yeah… I knew it was supposed to be like a yr and half between seasons. Since I’m not watching any other series at all anymore, I’ll look for it. Otherwise, that’s when they usually lose me.
Breaking Bad is perfection and shouldn’t be resurrected. I’m afraid that adding a movie (or anything) to the pristine perfection might put a stain on the franchise. However, Vince is an amazing storyteller, so I might have to trust his decision to make a movie. In sum, I’m cautiously optimistic.
I hope the movie is of a higher quality than the trailer.
I legitimately thought it was some kind of fan-made trailer.
It’s mostly the music, which is like the exact stock-loop “suspenseful strings” that you hear in every “dark” student film made in the last 10 years.
But the performance is pretty schlock, too. And that’s the director’s fault, not the actor’s.
Heavy handed, overly dramatic lighting doesn’t help, either.
I really hope this was just some hastily thrown together teaser made by P.A.s at the production company and not an indicator of the style of the movie.
I’ll watch it anyway, 'cuz I’m a fan of the series, but not expecting much based on that short clip.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I quit watching Breaking Bad in… probably season 3? Lost interest.
I get uncomfortable with television when it tries to straddle some middle ground between naturally long running formats like anthologies and single, ideally coherent stories (i.e. most television). You always wind up with a soap opera. And these days it’s usually a depressing soap opera, some ode to corruption and failure. Blegh.
And movies don’t bother, these days, actually telling firsthand the stories they’re purportedly aiming for – it’s all references to known tropes, with no room for anything present in the movie itself. The popular-type movies, anyways. Not my thing.
@InnocuousFarmer You quit just before it really got good! The last few seasons were amazing. It was the ultimate payoff if you watched it through to the end. It moves slowly the first few seasons then really takes off.
On a scale from zero to the fucking Downton Abby movie, I’d rate this a zero. Downton Abby’s a fucking zero too, of course — the trailer for that shitpile made me angrier than I usually get at shit trailers for the endless shit piñata that is modern moviegoing.
“If you saw a trailer, Uncle Vinny, that must be because you were in a movie theater! Ah HA! So what movie were you seeing?”
@UncleVinny oooh I want to see that one! The ladies on the “Women Who Sail” group(s) on FB have mentioned that it’s wonderful and wasn’t Maiden docked in Elliott Bay a couple weeks ago too?
Made curious by this topic, I watched the Downton trailer.
Apart from the trailer being “pretty” and not telling the viewer much, it seems well-composed visually, and reasonably inoffensive. I can’t figure out why one might get angry at it; even if one hates the show/genre from which the movie originated.
I dislike going to movies in theaters altogether. I dislike the pre-film intro stuff and I’m likely to dislike a superhero franchise trailer most (likely over-simplified storytelling and too much cgi in the underlying film.)
However: if i go to a movie theater, I know what I’m in for. Ads and trailers and other pointless promos which make me wish I hadn’t come at all. But the theaters are under contract to show this crap.
That’s the biz. If I walk into the lobby, I understand what I agreed to sit thru.
@f00l growing up with PBS, I was overexposed to the Victorian/Edwardian era, and for starters the whole retread of the same old upper crust/castle life BS just bores me to tears. Having seen none of DA, and knowing it’s phenomenally popular, I was hoping it was a better show than I’d feared. Idolizing the lazy/entitled/sneering rich and their trivial “problems” just gives me hives.
I’m (as is my wont about everything everywhere at all times even while I sleep) exaggerating my furiousness, but still…it’s the kind of drama that I wish people could see through and not be entertained by, along with my long list of other complaints about the modern world: football, macho bullshit, superheroes, revenge/retaliation stuff, gore, trashy gossipy hysterical “reality shows”, etc etc ad nauseum.
I’m super fun at parties! (I’m actually really fun and interesting at insufferable quiet-music-and-polite-chit-chat parties.)
@f00l wait! Against type, I thought the Joker trailer was pretty cool, and may go see the movie. I am very into Joaquin Phoenix, and would be keen to see him all skinny and going mad.
The bad news is it’s directed by Todd Philips, and his track record with me is shaky as hell. But…the trailer speaks for itself. Maybe he’s been redeemed?
it’s the kind of drama that I wish people could see through and not be entertained by, along with my long list of other complaints about the modern world: football, macho bullshit, superheroes, revenge/retaliation stuff, gore, trashy gossipy hysterical “reality shows”, etc etc ad nauseum.
There so much bullshit. And there are some things that might appear to be bullshit but turn out not be be, at all.
And there are things that annoy some people, entertain others, but really do little harm.
(Reality shows other than Survivor are not excused, tho. Pretty much terrible, those.)
So I will likely be one of those who, deliberately, does not see through whatever, including shows that are, at least in part, about the UK aristocracy.
There are a natural curiosity about that historical lifestyle (and the rules and customs that came with) for many viewers. And the fact that a show is about, or not about, “rich people and their problems” means nothing in terms of quality.
I saw a couple of early seasons of this show.
It was quite decent. Often v good. Well written. And it’s a show about the personal lives of those from upstairs and downstairs. Tho I hear that it kinda become the “Lady Mary show” over time.
I don’t usually understand blanket prejudices very well.
@f00l Bast save us from comic book movies. I enjoyed 2 out of the 10+ I saw, so I threw in the towel. Very nearly no more for me. Once the Joker comes out, common sense will likely prevail and I’ll skip it. We’ll see! Also, I guess I hadn’t heard much about JP’s off-set life. I do tend to avoid art by assholes. Dead assholes are Ok in my book, somehow.
The only reality show I can get behind is the Great British Bake-Off. People are generally cheerful, focused on their craft, supporting each other, trying to learn. It’s decadent, but it’s also a very very uplifting show.
I grew up enveloped in A Church – like, I was swaddled in a staggering amount of Church, so I’m very much about blanket prejudices. It’s a dreadful habit, and I don’t try hard enough to shake it.
My sympathies re growing up in an oppressive atmosphere.
I refer not to churches or religion here:
but rather to families in which adults rigidly force-feed their own beliefs, and don’t tolerate natural questioning or dissent; when they could have allowed the kids to grow naturally and openly into their own perspectives.
Aren’t most movies broken and bad already?
@hchavers most have super heros break some bad now it seems
@hchavers for instance the dark one is currently swirling around me and about to consume my soul. Thankfully she knows that her continued survival depends on me buying more cat food and she can only survive so long on my dead corpse
Should there really be !s on meh opinions?
@unksol Ambivalence rocks!!
Original cast? If so maybe.
@ThatsHeadly Written by Vince Gilligan, starring Aaron Paul. No Bryan Cranston.
@ruouttaurmind Well, Walter went to Belize so that makes sense. I have Netflix so I will probably watch this.
@ThatsHeadly I was a latecomer to the series and only started watching a few months after the series ended. But as is the case with many AMC series, it was quite good and really drew me in. I’ll definitely spool it up on Netflix.
Maybe it’s the precursor to a spinoff. Like Better Call Saul.
@ruouttaurmind @ThatsHeadly Jessie Pinkman is the only guy left standing at the end of BB.
I guess Slippin’ Jimmy McGill is now sippin’ Gene Taković in his Omaha condo too.
I’d watch a spin-off.
@therealjrn I haven’t seen the most recent two seasons of Saul, so I’m assuming that’s a dangling spoiler and I’m gonna leave it alone.
@ruouttaurmind WHAT!?!?? IS MY SPOILER DANGLING?
ha ha. Nope, no spoiler. In the opener for BCS, they show Saul in the present day fixing himself a lonely drink and watching a VHS tape of his old TV commercials. He’s living under the name of Gene Taković and working at a Cinnabon in a Omaha mall.
I’m hoping that Kim Wexler is working at the GAP in that same mall, but alas, there’s no sign of her.
@therealjrn I guess it’s been so long since I’ve watched Saul I totally forgot where and who he was.
I love Kim Wexler. If she was real I would steal her away from Jimmy.
@ruouttaurmind I know that’s right! Loves me the Kimmy Wexler!
Can’t get past the first episode, so meh!
@tinamarie1974 I never even tried. But people seem to like it
@llangley I guess, but I wonder why?!?!?!?!
@llangley @tinamarie1974 You people are such quitters. The first episodes are to set the story up.
@llangley @therealjrn but if I can’t get through the set-up, why would I like the action?
/giphy yawn
@llangley @tinamarie1974
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your loss then. I bet you people never saw The Wire either huh.
@llangley @therealjrn uummm what?
@llangley @tinamarie1974 The Shield? How bout that one?
@llangley @therealjrn uummmm
@llangley @therealjrn @tinamarie1974 I’ve tried several times to get into The Wire, but can’t make it past the first couple of episodes. Breaking Bad on the other hand, is one of the best TV shows of all times!
I really loved the series but by the 5th season Walt had no redeeming qualities and needed to die. I don’t know that I’ll watch the movie yet. But I can’t wait for the next season of Better Call Saul!!
@lseeber I tried watching it and quit early in season two. I thought it was well written and had intriguing plot-lines, but at that time, I had already “given up” on Walt (who had been so likable when the series started) and saw the writing on the wall.
I realize it is my hangup, but I need to be invested in at least one of the characters to maintain viewership for an on-going series (it’s less important in a 2 hour film). I don’t necessarily have to be rooting for the “good guy to come out on top” (e.g. it can be anticipation of the bad guy getting his come-uppance ) but “Breaking Bad” gave me no such rooting interest.
@DrWorm (SPOILERS) I totally understand. I think it was actually the 4th season (when he started scaring his wife) that I really was like… this guy has to die. If my husband hadn’t been watching it too, I would have quit then. As it was… it got better again and I did enjoy it thru the end. By the end, you were rooting for Jesse. Well… I was, lol.
@lseeber I have had some of my friends echo the sentiment that by the end, the story had flipped and you were rooting for Jesse. At the time I bowed out, he was almost impossible to like.
@DrWorm Yup… I recall not liking him either up 'til a point.
Word has it that Better Call Saul will be back in 2020…dang
It would be hard to make a movie, which runs 2 hours+ be as riveting as an episodic run. Still stoked though!
@FrankieP72 Yeah… I knew it was supposed to be like a yr and half between seasons. Since I’m not watching any other series at all anymore, I’ll look for it. Otherwise, that’s when they usually lose me.
Am I the only one who suspects that the movie and the Cranston/Paul mezcal videos make very convenient cover to keep a BCS appearance under wraps?
@djslack I actually didn’t think about it until this thread started.
lol. I read this a “Baking Bread” movie
@Aggie83 Breaking Bread: The real story of Passover
@Aggie83 hi! Welcome to the group. Why don’t you tell us about yourself!
@tinamarie1974 Lol. Living the life in the Great State of Texas, raising goats, minding me own bidness.
@Aggie83 well welcome! Hopefully you enjoy it here. We are a bit of a crazy group, but a lot of really good people.
@mfladd @therealjrn. Looks like our new member @Aggie83 raises goats. I wonder what she can do with @nolrak?!?!?!?
@Aggie83 @mfladd @nolrak @therealjrn @tinamarie1974 I think there’s a significant difference between raising goats and raising goats.
@Aggie83 @mfladd @nolrak @therealjrn @tinamarie1974 But what a month to add a goat farmer to the group! Welcome!
/giphy goat raisins
Breaking Bad is perfection and shouldn’t be resurrected. I’m afraid that adding a movie (or anything) to the pristine perfection might put a stain on the franchise. However, Vince is an amazing storyteller, so I might have to trust his decision to make a movie. In sum, I’m cautiously optimistic.
I hope the movie is of a higher quality than the trailer.
I legitimately thought it was some kind of fan-made trailer.
It’s mostly the music, which is like the exact stock-loop “suspenseful strings” that you hear in every “dark” student film made in the last 10 years.
But the performance is pretty schlock, too. And that’s the director’s fault, not the actor’s.
Heavy handed, overly dramatic lighting doesn’t help, either.
I really hope this was just some hastily thrown together teaser made by P.A.s at the production company and not an indicator of the style of the movie.
I’ll watch it anyway, 'cuz I’m a fan of the series, but not expecting much based on that short clip.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<grump>
I quit watching Breaking Bad in… probably season 3? Lost interest.
I get uncomfortable with television when it tries to straddle some middle ground between naturally long running formats like anthologies and single, ideally coherent stories (i.e. most television). You always wind up with a soap opera. And these days it’s usually a depressing soap opera, some ode to corruption and failure. Blegh.
And movies don’t bother, these days, actually telling firsthand the stories they’re purportedly aiming for – it’s all references to known tropes, with no room for anything present in the movie itself. The popular-type movies, anyways. Not my thing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law
</grump>
@InnocuousFarmer You quit just before it really got good! The last few seasons were amazing. It was the ultimate payoff if you watched it through to the end. It moves slowly the first few seasons then really takes off.
I guess you can’t make mansion mortgage payments voicing Todd Chavez on Bojack Horseman, so why not? Let Pinkman have this, yo.
On a scale from zero to the fucking Downton Abby movie, I’d rate this a zero. Downton Abby’s a fucking zero too, of course — the trailer for that shitpile made me angrier than I usually get at shit trailers for the endless shit piñata that is modern moviegoing.
“If you saw a trailer, Uncle Vinny, that must be because you were in a movie theater! Ah HA! So what movie were you seeing?”
I was seeing this, and it was terrific:
@carl669
Anyone else bored with the f*ckbot now?
@UncleVinny Hey now, that shit never gets fucking old.
you’re an all-star
@UncleVinny oooh I want to see that one! The ladies on the “Women Who Sail” group(s) on FB have mentioned that it’s wonderful and wasn’t Maiden docked in Elliott Bay a couple weeks ago too?
@moonhat Exactly!
@UncleVinny
We already know the modern movie biz is aimed only at money demographics.
So… Endless “franchises”.
Why get angry at trailers? It’s just a biz.
@f00l we could have a better world, @f00l. We could be better. It’s right around the corner!
@f00l @UncleVinny lets hope you are right!!
@UncleVinny
Made curious by this topic, I watched the Downton trailer.
Apart from the trailer being “pretty” and not telling the viewer much, it seems well-composed visually, and reasonably inoffensive. I can’t figure out why one might get angry at it; even if one hates the show/genre from which the movie originated.
I dislike going to movies in theaters altogether. I dislike the pre-film intro stuff and I’m likely to dislike a superhero franchise trailer most (likely over-simplified storytelling and too much cgi in the underlying film.)
However: if i go to a movie theater, I know what I’m in for. Ads and trailers and other pointless promos which make me wish I hadn’t come at all. But the theaters are under contract to show this crap.
That’s the biz. If I walk into the lobby, I understand what I agreed to sit thru.
@f00l growing up with PBS, I was overexposed to the Victorian/Edwardian era, and for starters the whole retread of the same old upper crust/castle life BS just bores me to tears. Having seen none of DA, and knowing it’s phenomenally popular, I was hoping it was a better show than I’d feared. Idolizing the lazy/entitled/sneering rich and their trivial “problems” just gives me hives.
I’m (as is my wont about everything everywhere at all times even while I sleep) exaggerating my furiousness, but still…it’s the kind of drama that I wish people could see through and not be entertained by, along with my long list of other complaints about the modern world: football, macho bullshit, superheroes, revenge/retaliation stuff, gore, trashy gossipy hysterical “reality shows”, etc etc ad nauseum.
I’m super fun at parties! (I’m actually really fun and interesting at insufferable quiet-music-and-polite-chit-chat parties.)
@f00l wait! Against type, I thought the Joker trailer was pretty cool, and may go see the movie. I am very into Joaquin Phoenix, and would be keen to see him all skinny and going mad.
The bad news is it’s directed by Todd Philips, and his track record with me is shaky as hell. But…the trailer speaks for itself. Maybe he’s been redeemed?
@UncleVinny
Re J Phoenix, his off-screen conduct is sometimes quite annoying. But if he’s good on-screen, I’ll credit him that.
In no hurry to see a Joker film tho. Even if it’s great. It’s a comic book film. It can wait a decade or two.
(Not being too self-righteous I hope. Comic book films are just not my thing.)
@UncleVinny
There so much bullshit. And there are some things that might appear to be bullshit but turn out not be be, at all.
And there are things that annoy some people, entertain others, but really do little harm.
(Reality shows other than Survivor are not excused, tho. Pretty much terrible, those.)
So I will likely be one of those who, deliberately, does not see through whatever, including shows that are, at least in part, about the UK aristocracy.
There are a natural curiosity about that historical lifestyle (and the rules and customs that came with) for many viewers. And the fact that a show is about, or not about, “rich people and their problems” means nothing in terms of quality.
I saw a couple of early seasons of this show.
It was quite decent. Often v good. Well written. And it’s a show about the personal lives of those from upstairs and downstairs. Tho I hear that it kinda become the “Lady Mary show” over time.
I don’t usually understand blanket prejudices very well.
@f00l Bast save us from comic book movies. I enjoyed 2 out of the 10+ I saw, so I threw in the towel. Very nearly no more for me. Once the Joker comes out, common sense will likely prevail and I’ll skip it. We’ll see! Also, I guess I hadn’t heard much about JP’s off-set life. I do tend to avoid art by assholes. Dead assholes are Ok in my book, somehow.
The only reality show I can get behind is the Great British Bake-Off. People are generally cheerful, focused on their craft, supporting each other, trying to learn. It’s decadent, but it’s also a very very uplifting show.
I grew up enveloped in A Church – like, I was swaddled in a staggering amount of Church, so I’m very much about blanket prejudices.
It’s a dreadful habit, and I don’t try hard enough to shake it.
@UncleVinny
My sympathies re growing up in an oppressive atmosphere.
I refer not to churches or religion here:
but rather to families in which adults rigidly force-feed their own beliefs, and don’t tolerate natural questioning or dissent; when they could have allowed the kids to grow naturally and openly into their own perspectives.